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  • keen observer

    keen observer 1:06 PM on July 13, 2018 Permalink |  

    Kawhi “Update” 


    • LakerTom (Publisher) 2:45 PM on July 13, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      From the above article:

      Cris Carter has consistently been a source of reliable news on the Kawhi Leonard situation this year. Carter was represented by Mitch Frankel, who is also representing Leonard.

      This week, there have been reports and speculation of a possible trade of Leonard to the Toronto Raptors.
      “Nothing’s changed from Kawhi’s side from these standpoints: He still wants to go to Los Angeles, and he’s still not interested in being rented out for one season, so that being Philadelphia, Boston, Toronto or any other team,” said Carter on Friday. “The thing that we should know is San Antonio has been in contact with Kawhi and his people, and they’ve told them that if something was to get real, real close, we’ll reach out to you. Well, it’s in their best interest and smart to reach out to him, and typically the other team that’s involved in the trade would be granted permission to reach out to the player that’s being traded. None of those things happened yesterday.”

      Earlier in the week, Carter said Gregg Popovich gave Leonard the indication he would trade him.

      “Kawhi, in meeting with Pop, Pop gave him every indication that he was going to trade him and he was going to try to make Kawhi happy,” Carter reported on Tuesday. “I never said that before, because I was holding it until now. So, all these discussions about Kawhi going to the East, I believe Popovich is trying to accommodate Kawhi and trying to please him.”

      • LakerTom (Publisher) 2:48 PM on July 13, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Push come to shove, the Lakers would love a Kawhi and picks trade for Ingram. My guess is that’s now become the most they would give up. They’re not going to include Kuzma or Hart. Josh pretty much took care of that single handedly this summer.

        • LakerTom (Publisher) 2:50 PM on July 13, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          It’s kind of like a Wiggins for Love kind of deal.
          Ingram has more upside than Wiggins.
          Spurs may finally accept that and trade.

          • John M.

            John M. 3:15 PM on July 13, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            And the Cavs got 1 BIG ring out of it, and they’re headed back to the lottery. Magic’s vision is grander than that.

    • Michael H (Editor)

      Michael H (Editor) 3:30 PM on July 13, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Aloha Tom,
      While you can never say never there is no indication that the Lakers would “love” to trade Brandon for Kawhi. All the reports have actually said that the Lakers have been reluctant to include him in trade talks. Then when you consider that Lebron is high on BI and feels he will be an all star sooner then later I don’t believe we going to trade BI any time soon. Just based on last year, especially the 2nd half it’s not a stretch to see him at 20 6 and 5 this year. At only 20 years old I can see why Lebron and the Lakers want to hold onto him. Actually it appears Lebron is excited to play with this young group. I wouldn’t expect any trades until January at the earliest. And if they like what they see, they may choose to just try and sign a free agent Star next year.

      • LakerTom (Publisher) 3:38 PM on July 13, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Just negotiating stances, Michael. As promising as Brandon is, if you can trade him straight up for a healthy Kawhi, you do it.

        • John M.

          John M. 3:57 PM on July 13, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Don’t hold your breath on that deal. Last we heard it was Brandon, Kyle, Josh, and picks and swaps for a who-knows-what-he-is Leonard.

        • mud

          mud 9:56 AM on July 14, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          no. YOU do it.

          “healthy” includes mentally as well as physically. that guy is a mess.

          if he’s on the Lakers, i’ll root for him, just like i rooted for Rodman.

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 11:03 AM on July 13, 2018 Permalink |  

    The Rising Star at the Center of the Kawhi Leonard Trade Talks 

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 11:05 AM on July 13, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Great article by Kevin O’Conner for the Ringer on the value of Brandon Ingram, who is the player the Spurs want but the Lakers are hesitant to give up in a trade for Kawhi Leonard.

      • DJ2KB24

        DJ2KB24 11:20 AM on July 13, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        No Ingy trade, we don’t know if KL can even play. Wait a year and get him for no one. If h’es LBJ, great, if he a weakling like PG, forget him.

        • mclyne32 (Director) 12:34 PM on July 13, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          I agree with you, Deej. I’m over giving up any assets for him.

          • NBA4ever

            NBA4ever 12:37 PM on July 13, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            I am as well. Let’s roll with this squad at least till the trade deadline.

            • keen observer

              keen observer 1:41 PM on July 13, 2018 Permalink

              If he’s healthy, I’d do it.

    • Legend44

      Legend44 3:10 PM on July 13, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Agree …. keep Ingram and young core

    • Michael H (Editor)

      Michael H (Editor) 5:18 PM on July 13, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      What we know is the Spurs want everyone but Ball. 2 1st round picks and 2 pick swaps.

      • Michael H (Editor)

        Michael H (Editor) 5:19 PM on July 13, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        And we also know that the Lakers pulled their offer.

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 10:20 AM on July 13, 2018 Permalink |  

    Should Lakers have kept Julius Randle intead of Kentavious Caldwell-Pope? 

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 10:38 AM on July 13, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I understand all the angst over Julius Randle’s departure and was personally hoping the Lakers would keep Julius. Loyalty aside, however, the truth was Julius was a tough fit to play with because of his inability to stretch the floor and questions about whether he could continue to play at a high level for starter minutes. In the end, it came down to the Lakers valuing cap flexibility more than Randle’s contributions.

      KCP, on the other hand, was the key to opening the door and closing the deal for LeBron and at, 25, still a young player with a chance to get even better. While I would have liked to keep Randle, I think it was an easy decision to re-sign KCP. I think he is very underrated as a shooter and defender. He has a good chance to hang onto the starting shooting guard role once we become a championship team.

      Could Josh Hart or Svi Mykhailiuk eventually be less expensive options for KCP? That’s certainly possible, especially if Svi shows he could be as good a backup as Josh has shown he could be. For now, I love the depth we have at the 2 and the versatility that all three guys could also play some at the 3 if we go small.

    • John M.

      John M. 11:36 AM on July 13, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Lakers weren’t offering 2 years to Julius (or anyone else), and he wouldn’t sign for 1. End of story.

    • keen observer

      keen observer 1:06 PM on July 13, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      It was no LeBron if the Lakers didn’t sign KCP, so it’s a non-issue.

    • mud

      mud 5:51 PM on July 13, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      why is everyone ignoring what really happened?

      Julius asked to be released, period.

    • Magic Phil

      Magic Phil 6:38 PM on July 13, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Not gonna miss him. On the other hand… (rap groove):
      KCP is good on D
      and can shoot some 3

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 10:06 AM on July 13, 2018 Permalink |  

    Josh Hart’s Emergence Is More Proof Lakers Should Keep Young Core Together 

    • keen observer

      keen observer 10:07 AM on July 13, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Especially when 3 of them are in the second year of their rookie contracts.

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 10:25 AM on July 13, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      One thing everybody has to keep in mind before going crazy about Josh Hart is better than Ingram or Lonzo is to remember is you’re comparing a 23-year old man with 4 years of college ball to a pair of 20 year old kids with one year. Upside is about comparing Hart to what Ingram and Lonzo would be in 3 years. I love Josh and think he is going to be a great contributor to a championship team but he does not have the upside the Lonzo and Ingram possess.

      • NBA4ever

        NBA4ever 10:36 AM on July 13, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Exactly Tom and it’s the same reason Ingram will end up be a much more complete player than Kuzma.

      • John M.

        John M. 12:22 PM on July 13, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        This will be Brandon’s third year :). I know, they’re all babies to us wizened folks…

    • therealhtj

      therealhtj 10:27 AM on July 13, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Or he could be Dame Lillard

  • Magicman (Editor)

    Magicman (Editor) 9:19 AM on July 13, 2018 Permalink |  

    Kawhi In Canada would be a “Disaster” 

    Trading for Leonard would give the impression that Toronto is doing something, at least, even if that something is inviting disaster. Because, unless the Raptors turned around and traded Leonard themselves (they’d face the same difficulties on that), Toronto would have accomplished little with Leonard other than to take on San Antonio’s headache.

    If Leonard was not happy in San Antonio, there’s little to suggest he’d be thrilled with the Raptors. Leonard’s camp — mostly his agents, but we can only assume they have Leonard’s complete backing — has made it clear he wants to be in Los Angeles, and he has the leverage of impending free agency in 2019.

    The only rational explanation for Raptors’ interest in Leonard is that, with him on board in place of DeRozan and with James playing for the Lakers, Toronto would have a shot at finally winning the East and reaching the Finals.

    If Leonard is refusing to play for the Spurs, does anyone think he’d be more pleased to suit up for the Raptors, the team with the gall to disrupt his collision course with the Lakers? If there’s been anything we learned about Leonard that we did not already know in the past year, it is how incredibly stubborn the man can be. He stuck with that quad injury and allowed it to keep him out for 73 games, plus the entire postseason. He dumped an entire year of his career just to get out of San Antonio.


  • p ang

    p ang 4:52 AM on July 13, 2018 Permalink |  

    After comparing Playoff Rondo to Big Game James you think Magic won’t be hinting who plays on crunch time to Luke?

    There’s an unfilled 15th slot and 5.6m, who could they be eyeing to fill that?

    You think LBJ came to the Lakers to play small ball Center? Seriously?

    Can you imagine Rondo driving and lobbing to McGee? McGee would look like a taller Clint Capela.

    The second unit might be the best the team has ever had. If things hold that would be Wagner, Kuzma, Hart, Stephenson and Rondo. Dang, where does Svi fit in?

    • keen observer

      keen observer 6:49 AM on July 13, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I think they are waiting to see if any acorns fall off some trees. For example, the Nets just acquired Kenneth Faried. If he is bought out, perfect solution. If nothing falls, they can always re-sign Channing Frye. Nothing wrong with that either. Or there’s still something cooking behind the scenes that we’re unaware of.

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 9:38 PM on July 12, 2018 Permalink |  

    Josh Hart goes for 20 PTS, 6 REB in Lakers win to advance to the next round 

    • p ang

      p ang 10:19 PM on July 12, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      What was that about Marcus Smart?

    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 10:29 PM on July 12, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      KCP has some competition for that starting spot.

      • mclyne32 (Director) 9:44 AM on July 13, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I think the only reason we re- signed KCP was the Klutch connection.

        • keen observer

          keen observer 10:06 AM on July 13, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          I agree. I believe it was a condition of signing LeBron. Rich Paul called Magic and double checked the deals for BOTH of them and then said “congratulations.”

          • LakerTom (Publisher) 10:31 AM on July 13, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            In a way, KCP was a critical reason why LeBron came to LA. He gave Rich Paul and the Lakers ownership and front office a chance to meet and develop a relationship for a year that paved the way for the LeBron coming to LA.

            On top of that. KCP is exactly what the Lakers needed at shooting guard. He shot over 40% once his legal problems were in the past and played excellent aggressive defense. Backed up by Hart and Svi, the Lakers have great depth at the 2. Yes, LeBron wanted him signed but it’s not like he’s Tristan Thompson on a long term deal. It’s one year for paper money.

            • keen observer

              keen observer 2:23 PM on July 13, 2018 Permalink

              Look at what Denver has done. While it seems like a deep roster, the only 2 starters who play a lick of defense are Gary Harris and Paul Millsap, and the bench is no different. They will lose as many 135-30 games as they win.

              On the flip side, look at the new Lakers. Every single guard/wing is a solid defender (although Reed hates everything about Lance and would dispute that and Josh Hart’s analytics are the opposite of the eye test with him). It is the front court where the Lakers are going to have to figure things out. LeBron is at that stage in his career where he rests more on defense. Kuzma has a long way to go as a defender. McGee is OK in certain aspects, but in others (screen-roll), he’s not. This is where the Randle thing is painful. However, I have confidence that Luke will figure this out.

    • mclyne32 (Director) 10:48 AM on July 13, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I agree. He played quite well after the off court drama subsided.

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 9:35 PM on July 12, 2018 Permalink |  

    Rich Paul says LeBron’s decision was basketball decision & what he wanted to do 

  • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

    Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 9:21 PM on July 12, 2018 Permalink |  

    Isaiah Thomas agrees to 1-year deal with Denver Nuggets 

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  • MongoSlade

    MongoSlade 7:18 PM on July 12, 2018 Permalink |  

    Charles Oakley not leaving any money on the table..literally 

    Charles Oakley is learning the hard way … if you try to cheat a Vegas casino, you’ll end up behind bars.

    TMZ Sports has learned … the ex-NBA star was arrested at the Cosmopolitan on July 8 after allegedly trying to pull a fast one during a gambling session — and it was all caught on video.

    Officials from the Nevada Gaming Board tell us Oakley “was suspected of adding to or reducing his wager on a gambling game after the outcome was known.”

    Unclear what game he was playing at the time — but one source with knowledge of the incident says Oak tried to pull back a $100 chip after he realized he was going to lose.

    FYI, Oakley reportedly made more than $46 mil during his NBA career.

    Oak was confronted about the incident — and it was kicked over to a security team which reviewed the casino video footage … confirming the alleged cheating.

    The 54-year-old was taken into custody at 5:30 PM and booked into Clark County Detention Center.

    Oak’s gambling charge is serious business — “to commit or attempt to commit a fraudulent act in a gaming establishment.” He faces between 1 to 6 years in prison if convicted.

    A source close to Oakley tells us, “This is an insignificant matter that will be quickly resolved.”

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 6:01 PM on July 12, 2018 Permalink |  

    The Chicago Bulls have rescinded the qualifying offer on guard David Nwaba 

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 2:50 PM on July 12, 2018 Permalink |  

    LeBron’s time at each position last season shows he basically 'never' played center 

    • GDUBinDC

      GDUBinDC 3:25 PM on July 12, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Which is exactly y I don’t understand y anyone would automatically assume he’ll play much, if any, significant time at that position.

      • John M.

        John M. 3:48 PM on July 12, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Hard to imagine it being on his wish list when he was shopping for a new team. Maybe a little small ball with Kuz or Moe at PF, but his main spot will be positionless forward.

        • GDUBinDC

          GDUBinDC 3:49 PM on July 12, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Agreed, JM.

          • LakerTom (Publisher) 4:02 PM on July 12, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            And yet, that is exactly what it appears is the Lakers and LeBron’s plan for the coming season. Truthfully, LeBron has the potential to be the best small ball center in the NBA. He is going to take over Randle’s role in transition and in half court, although probably more from the post and elbow than driving from outside in like Julius did, although he’ll do some of that.

            The trade off for playing small ball center will be LeBron will be able to cut his minutes from 37 down to low 30’s and he won’t have to be the guy with the ball all the time in half court. Instead, he can get the ball on the move, cutting for the basket, or posting up as the clock shot runs down.

            Lakers will use LeBron in all kinds of different ways than just isolating him in a static offense. But he’s going to end up playing center around half the time he’s on the court and apparently has no issues with that as reflected by the makeup of the Lakers roster.

            • John M.

              John M. 4:43 PM on July 12, 2018 Permalink

              Training camp will tell a lot about who can do what Luke wants. McGee wants to start, Zubac was re-signed, and Wagner shows promise. I understand the center spot is underwhelming on paper, but size is still important with many of the league’s match ups. I’d love to see LeBron doing whatever he wants on the court, but I think it’s too early to project what that may look like.

            • DJ2KB24

              DJ2KB24 5:36 PM on July 12, 2018 Permalink

              That’s why we have the do-all LB.

            • mud

              mud 5:40 PM on July 12, 2018 Permalink

              it does NOT appear that way, although it could certainly happen. i have not heard either the Lakers or LeBron suggest that he should be the small ball center.

            • GDUBinDC

              GDUBinDC 6:50 PM on July 12, 2018 Permalink

              Exactly, mud … it seems the only one it ‘appears’ to might be LT. LOL

            • p ang

              p ang 10:20 PM on July 12, 2018 Permalink


      • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

        Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 5:42 PM on July 12, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I agree, Luke has shown more of a predilection to blend the modern analytic movement with a traditionalist approach. Hence Zubac getting the minutes many thought TB should have gotten, getting Lopez’s season back on track by putting him on the block, etc.

        I mean, he might play some 5 but I will be surprised if he plays the 5 every night. Match ups, match ups, match ups.

        • LakerTom (Publisher) 6:03 PM on July 12, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Give me a matchup at center that you think would NOT favor LeBron, Jamie?

          • mud

            mud 6:27 PM on July 12, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

            Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 7:55 PM on July 12, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Anthony Davis, KAT, WCS, Whiteside, Nurcic, really any of the 7’+ Center’s that have a modicum if skill.

            I’m sure he’ll get switched onto centers and that he’ll manufacture that same switch on offense but the man is in his mid 30’s and has never really taken the role of small ball center by the hiorns.

            Maybe I’m wrong but it seems far fetched at this juncture of his career.

            • DJ2KB24

              DJ2KB24 7:57 PM on July 12, 2018 Permalink

              Not thinking WCS or Whiteside. LBJ to strong and quick. Not sure why there is a conversation about him at the 5. Seems odd to me anyway.

            • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

              Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 10:55 PM on July 12, 2018 Permalink

              Whiteside would be a tough cover for LBJ and on offense LBJ will have the ball in his hands but it doesn’t matter what position he plays James is at his best getting easy buckets (harder to leak out if you’re under the opposing basket or in the paint) and the center in Luke’s offense often focuses on boxing out hard, sometimes on 2 guys, and letting guards or Randle grab the ball and push. LBJ ain’t boxing out hard for a lot of minutes per game, every game. Matched up right…maybe. But he’s one of the Ferrari’s. No need to relegate him to being a moving van.

              WCS is cat-quick and can switch 5 positions, James is strong and quick, true, but WCS isn’t a slouch on D. My thing is: let’s see how Luke and the staff look to use him.

            • John M.

              John M. 2:51 PM on July 13, 2018 Permalink

              Rim protector? We don’t need no stinking rim protector!

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 8:51 PM on July 12, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Hell..Lebron is probably the best option at all five positions, head coach, gm, owner, trainer, play by play man, and head of security..but that’s beside the point.

      Wouldn’t surprise me to see Kuzma earn the start at power forward with Lebron playing small forward..where he’s played his entire 15 yr career.

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 2:44 PM on July 12, 2018 Permalink |  

    The day ‘LA-Bron’ was born? 

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 2:41 PM on July 12, 2018 Permalink |  

    It Sounds Like the Lakers’ Young Roster Is Here to Stay 

    Rob Pelinka says Los Angeles is building a Warriors-beater, but the team and LeBron James appear set up more for the long haul than immediate success—and that’s just fine.

    LeBron James’s decision to play for the Lakers (that still feels weird to say) has inevitably flipped the franchise upside down. No longer are they the lovable, rebuilding Lakers led by Luke Walton. LeBron is at the center of the enterprise, but Los Angeles didn’t trade away its young core to immediately build a superteam around him. Instead, the Lakers have rising players in Lonzo Ball, Brandon Ingram, and others while adding a smorgasbord of veterans in Rajon Rondo, JaVale McGee, and Lance Stephenson. Suddenly, the Lakers are trying to do a little bit of everything.

    Their one-year signings suggest a play for the summer of 2019, when the cap space will remain and the available superstars will abound. Meanwhile, keeping Ball, Ingram, Kyle Kuzma, and Josh Hart (for now) also suggests that they’re playing the long game. And yet their general manager, Rob Pelinka, hasn’t hesitated to talk about beating the Warriors, and he’s been clear that constructing a defensive-minded team is the way to take down that offensive juggernaut. Though with the short-term deals the Lakers signed, the team may be defensive-minded for just one season. Pelinka sounds like the new Daryl Morey, itching to take a shot at Golden State right away.

    “It is certainly part of the equation. … Earvin [Johnson] and I had a conversation, and LeBron echoed this sentiment: I think to try to play the Warriors at their own game is a trap,” Pelinka said during a press conference Wednesday. “No one is going to beat them at their own game, so that is why we wanted to add these elements of defense and toughness and depth and try to look at areas where we will have an advantage.”

    To beat the best team ever assembled, and to beat them as soon as possible, the Lakers are banking on the best player in the world and … a grab bag of intangibles? Really, they are also banking on youth. What they might not be able to say out loud — that it’s OK to let this season become a test run, but not an all-out attempt to win a title — also plays to their seeming lack of interest in trading their whole treasure chest of young assets for Kawhi Leonard. The Lakers are playing the long game; they just don’t want to publicly admit it.

    As trade talks between the Spurs and Lakers seem to have stalled out for now, reality is settling in: This is the roster around LeBron James. Pelinka spoke of the team’s young players in a way that suggested they’d be sticking around, touting Hart’s, Ingram’s, and Kuzma’s abilities from beyond the arc. He implied that this was the reason they didn’t go after shooters in free agency. The Lakers assessed that they already had the spacing to allow LeBron to thrive on the roster.

  • keen observer

    keen observer 11:34 AM on July 12, 2018 Permalink |  

    Kawhi News 


    • keen observer

      keen observer 11:35 AM on July 12, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply


      • havoc

        havoc 11:39 AM on July 12, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        yeah i heard this rumor a couple of days ago..i guess it will be a leonard for either lowry or derozan

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 11:51 AM on July 12, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Spurs might take a lesser deal than the Lakers offer to get Kawhi outta the west and hope that the new team can re-sign him and keep him out for the foreseeable future. Toronto might be a good city for Kawhi…but who really knows at this point?

      • Magicman (Editor)

        Magicman (Editor) 12:26 PM on July 12, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Not a good fit for him in TO. Won’t like it.

        If the Spurs think grabbing Lowry or DeRozan is better than anything else, then it would spell doom.

        Particularly because TO will give up OG or a pick, Not both.

    • mud

      mud 5:41 PM on July 12, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply


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