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  • LakerTom (Publisher) 11:22 AM on June 16, 2018 Permalink |  

    Scalabrine says Lakers should make trade Lonzo Ball to “appease LeBron” 

    “If I’m the Lakers, I’m looking to move Lonzo Ball,” Scalabrine said. “To be honest with you, I’ve looked at the list of free agents out there. If I’m the Lakers, I’m looking to do a lot of moves to appease LeBron. Whoever he wants, go ahead and do it. There’s a lot of guys out there that you can put on this team that could help you beat the Warriors.”

     
  • LakerTom (Publisher) 11:13 AM on June 16, 2018 Permalink |  

    Eric Pincus update on how Lakers can trade for Kawhi and then sign LeBron James 

    Perhaps the biggest question of all is: How willing is Leonard to play hardball to make sure he gets traded to his desired location? If his representation tells the Celtics, 76ers and Clippers that he will opt out after the 2018-19 season, perhaps he scares off the competition.

    That assumes the Lakers are atop his list, which may not be the case.

    They have the flexibility to use their cap room in July to absorb Leonard’s salary without forcing unwanted contracts on San Antonio (specifically Luol Deng’s). An uneven trade of Brandon Ingram ($5.8 million) for Leonard ($20.1 million) will be legal in July when the NBA’s 2018-19 calendar year officially begins.

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 11:18 AM on June 16, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Three important points from Eric’s excellent review of the situation:

      1. Kawhi needs to play hardball if he wants to go to LA. Hopefully, Kawhi’s camp learned from Paul George that they need to control the narrative by limiting their list to just Lakers.

      2. The focus appears to be LA more than Lakers. Frankly, the comments from other sources about Kawhi not wanting to come to Lakers because of the attention bother me.

      3. The Lakers don’t have to match salaries after July 1st. Other than the Lakers refusing to trade for Kawhi unless it includes Deng, there’s no reason for the Spurs to trade Kawhi and take back Deng.

      Bottom line, Kawhi and Lakers both need to play hardball with Spurs. We can afford to wait.

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 2:36 PM on June 16, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      From the above article:

      If James chooses to join Leonard, the team would still have roughly $16.6 million to spend to round out the roster while retaining Randle. Without Randle, that number climbs to about $28.2 million.
      That’s awfully close to the $30.3 million that George would be eligible to receive in free agency.

      “Is George the right fit for the Lakers if they get Leonard and James?” asked a former vice president of basketball operations. “Don’t they all play the same position?”

      If the franchise was fortunate enough to have to make that decision, that’s a viable argument. Would Los Angeles be better served using its remaining spending power on a big man like DeMarcus Cousins or Jordan (if he opts out)? Cousins is recovering from a torn Achilles tendon; would he agree to a shorter, less expensive deal to prove he’s healthy while playing on a superteam?

      • LakerTom (Publisher) 2:42 PM on June 16, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        How about Kawhi, PG, and Boogie. If there is a threesome that makes sense for the Lakers, this would be it.

        STARTERS
        —————
        PG: LONZO BALL
        SG: PAUL GEORGE
        SF: KAWHI LEONARD
        PF: JULIUS RANDLE
        CE: DEMARCUS COUSINS

        RESERVES:

        —————
        PG: RAJON RONDO
        SG: #47 PICK
        SF: VET MINIMUM
        PF: KYLE KUZMA
        CE: MITCHELL ROBINSON

        • mclyne32 (Director) 3:51 PM on June 16, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          IF Boogie is good to go, come opening night, or close to it, I would be ecstatic to witness what this group could do.

  • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

    Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 1:44 AM on June 16, 2018 Permalink |  

     
  • LakerTom (Publisher) 9:55 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink |  

    Two Decades Later, the Spurs May Have to Rebuild 

    Any interested team must feel confident that Leonard would re-sign since he has only one season (plus an option for one more) remaining on his current contract. The Pacers faced the same dilemma last summer with Paul George, who had eyes for the Lakers. But sources still don’t expect San Antonio to settle for anything less than a massive haul.

    It’ll be a leverage game between the Spurs, Leonard, and other teams. If Leonard makes it clear he’ll re-sign for only one or a few teams, then the price to acquire him goes down. Recent trades for stars on near-expiring contracts — George (one year plus an option), DeMarcus Cousins (one and a half years), Kyrie Irving (two years plus an option), etc. — didn’t yield massive returns for their original teams. Teams must also gauge Leonard’s risk for reinjury. He missed 18 games with quadriceps tendonitis near his left knee toward the start of the 2012–13 season, and the Spurs sent Leonard to P3 in Santa Barbara, California, to correct the problem that next summer. But Leonard’s right quad flared up again toward the end of the 2015–16 season. The same quad then sidelined him for most of the 2017–18 season.

    If offers are underwhelming this month and into free agency, league sources anticipate that the Spurs will drag this out if necessary to drive up the price. The New York Times’ Marc Stein said the Spurs still haven’t “yet” made Leonard available. The fact that Leonard’s camp leaked that he wants out (even before he met face-to-face with Popovich, per Chris Haynes) is an indication that his camp is trying to escalate the situation in order to force the Spurs to trade him. There’s no other reason to go public than to pressure the San Antonio front office. The Spurs aren’t budging as of now, but Leonard’s camp is pushing back hard. It’s only a matter of time until San Antonio is forced to make a move.

    I would go all in on Leonard if I were the Lakers. Trading Ingram, Kuzma, Josh Hart, the no. 25 pick, and Luol Deng’s salary for Leonard, as NBA salary cap expert Albert Nahmad suggested, would still leave the Lakers with enough open salary cap space to sign LeBron James and Paul George to max contracts. But ESPN’s Ramona Shelburne and Adrian Wojnarowski reported in February that the Lakers were “recalibrating” their focus to the 2019 offseason, so they could theoretically wait out Leonard. Even if Leonard were traded to a different team, the Lakers could make a push for him once he hits free agency. I reported on Wednesday that the Lakers, who hold the 25th pick, have interest in trading up for Texas Tech prospect Zhaire Smith, according to sources. Those same sources said that Los Angeles is also open to adding salary for the 2018–19 season, whether it’s one-year signings in free agency or through a trade. It appears the Lakers are paving multiple paths to building a contender, whether or not this is the offseason for fireworks.

     
    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 1:42 AM on June 16, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Multiple quad injuries…don’t sell the farm, Earvin.

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 3:30 PM on June 16, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      From the above article:

      Here are seven made-up trade proposals that would represent San Antonio’s best-case scenarios:

      1. From the Lakers: Ingram, Kuzma, Hart, Deng, no. 25 pick in 2018, 2021 first-round pick (unprotected)

      2. From the Celtics: Jaylen Brown, Terry Rozier, Marcus Morris, Guerschon Yabusele, Abdel Nader, 2019 Kings first (top-one protected), 2019 Grizzlies first (top-eight protected, top-six protected in 2020, unprotected in 2021)

      3. From the Clippers: Tobias Harris, the no. 12 and no. 13 pick, 2021 first (unprotected)

      4. From the Sixers: Markelle Fultz, Dario Saric, Robert Covington, Jerryd Bayless, no. 10 pick

      5. From the Knicks: Frank Ntilikina, no. 9 pick, 2020 and 2022 firsts (unprotected)

      6. From the Kings: No. 2 pick, Justin Jackson, Skal Labissiere, 2021 first (unprotected)

      7. From the Suns: No. 1 pick, Josh Jackson, Dragan Bender, 2021 first (unprotected)

      • mud

        mud 10:09 AM on June 17, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        so, now the internet is the actual GM of all teams? the internet puts up the deals and the teams choose between internet values?

        San Antonio’s “best-case scenarios” are that they don’t end up with Kawhi leaving for nothing. why would a team, any team, give up all that for a guy who is leaving? what front office in its right mind would bend over to help the Spurs? no wonder all these teams are crying “bankruptcy” and demanding salary caps! they are all as idiotic as folks on the internet!

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 9:42 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink |  

    Kawhi Leonard’s camp flipping back and forth between Lakers and Clippers 

    Kawhi Leonard’s camp changes it’s mind often. It’s a fluid situation. Sometimes he prefers joining LeBron James with the Lakers but other times, he prefers the Clippers to avoid the spotlight — he didn’t like all the attention his injury situation got this season.

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 9:44 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Almost sounds like Kawhi doesn’t want to play with LeBron, which would be fine. Love the idea of he and PG on the Lakers. Would allow us to keep Randle and Thomas. Just need to wait until we can sign him for nothing or the Spurs take Deng as part of the deal.

    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 9:52 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Enjoy misery if you force a trade there, sir.

    • mud

      mud 10:02 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      he’s just not THAT good. he’s not Kobe or MJ or Magic or Kareem or Wilt or West or Russell or Hakeem or Bird or LeBron, or any of those other guys who weigh down the scales just by showing up. he’s not even Duncan. i’d be VERY happy if the Lakers get him, but he’s not worth bending backwards over. he’s just a really, really good player, but i’d be surprised to see him take a team on his back to the finals, even in the eastern conference. he’s Scotty Pippen, not Jordan.

  • GDUBinDC

    GDUBinDC 9:26 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink |  

    Errrrly Saturday musical break

     
  • LakerTom (Publisher) 7:18 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink |  

    Lakers should just sign Paul George! 

     

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 7:27 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I actually began writing this article last night before the news broke this morning about Kawhi Leonard’s camp leaking that Kawhi wanted out of San Antonio and he wanted to be traded to L.A., preferably to the Lakers. The more I ran the numbers and looked at the situation, the more everything I just wrote about why the Lakers should just sign PG, collect more assets this summer, and wait to pursue a second or third superstar until midseason or next summer resonated with me. Kawhi, LeBron, and PG is too good to be true.

      If the Lakers can convince the Spurs to take on Deng’s contract as part of a trade for Kawhi so the Lakes would have a clear path to sign LeBron and PG, it would be stupid to turn that opportunity down, even though we would have to build a new bench from scratch. Otherwise, our best course of action is to sign Paul George this summer and wait until next summer to sign Kawhi Leonard as a free agent. Would love to hear what you think. Thanks.

      • DJ2KB24

        DJ2KB24 7:32 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Keep in mind that if LBJ and PG agree to come, they can leave what’s needed $ to keep Randle and we don’t have to give (trade) anyone to anybody, thus keeping LB, Hart, Ingy, Kuz and Randle.

        • LakerTom (Publisher) 7:34 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          That’s true, DJ, but unless we move Deng, you’re talking about them each having to take at least $5 million less than the max. The only way that could be true is if LeBron is choreographing this entire scenario along with Kawhi and PG. Not impossible at all. But also not probable.

      • mclyne32 (Director) 8:14 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        There’s no guarantee that Kawhi will be available next summer. There’s a big chance that he could really like his new team and stay with them.
        This is my dream scenario:
        Trade Ingram, Deng, and picks for Kawhi.
        Sign PG.
        Re sign Ju.
        This way, you are only giving up one of our youth and adding two of the best two way players while at the same time, retaining one of our most versatile ones.

    • Michael H (Editor)

      Michael H (Editor) 7:37 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Aloha Tom,
      I like your approach. For me the bigger issue is letting Randle walk and trading at least two of the kids to form a big three still may not be enough to get by the Warriors.

      • LakerTom (Publisher) 7:40 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Aloha, Michael,

        Thanks. It makes even more sense when you think of a team that only has Lonzo, LeBron, Kawhi, PG, and maybe Hart. That’s throwing away the baby with the bathwater as far as I’m concerned. Like with PG, don’t pay for what we could get for free next summer.

        • DJ2KB24

          DJ2KB24 8:00 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          We need to keep in mind that Rockets had em, but for Paul going down. These Warriors will be able to be beaten.

      • mclyne32 (Director) 8:15 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        We can’t let Randle walk.

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 8:09 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Gotta also keep in mind how the Kawhi news was worded:
      Wants to come to LA…preferably to the Lakers.
      Means that the Clipps are on the table as well, although in secondary position (as usual).
      Spurs might make that deal just to get this mess over with…

      But yeah….I don’t wanna give up Kuz in that deal.

      • mclyne32 (Director) 8:29 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Who would you give up?

      • MongoSlade

        MongoSlade 8:38 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Deng, Ingram, Hart (I hate to do it), picks, Jack Nicholson, whatever…

        The other problem could be getting the Spurs to take Deng’s contract if the Clipps offer has no such dead weight.

        • GDUBinDC

          GDUBinDC 9:10 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Realistically, do y’all really believe Buford would go for any of the proposed deals u’ve posted thus far? : )

        • MongoSlade

          MongoSlade 9:23 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          I think it alot depends on whether another team (like Boston) steps up and takes the risk of trading assets for a guy who could walk in a year. If that doesn’t happen then you’re down to the 2 LA teams. I think they’d take one of those deals rather than go thru a whole season of this mess and then lose him with nothing in return.

          • GDUBinDC

            GDUBinDC 9:32 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            We’ll see ‘what’, if anything develops of these rumors and proposed trade scenarios.

    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 9:46 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I had a post much like this up for an hour or so except that I blew all my cap numbers and just scrapped it.

      In a nutshell is was this: I think a stronger option would be to sign one of James, George or Cousins. This allows you to absorb one, or both, of Thomas and Randle’s cap hits. Use your room exception to try and either Lopez, KCP, or another free agent of your choice (of the unrestricted variety).

      You keep Deng and use him as Randle’s back up and injury insurance for your bigs. You can W&S him next summer if you can’t find a taker for an expiring deal at the deadline. You could even go the extend and W&S route and minimize the hit even more.

      Use Bird Rights to re-sign Randle and IT. You can waive the non-guaranteed deals of Ennis, Zubac and Bryant to free up almost $10 mil if you sign LBJ, more than that if it’s either George or Cousins. If you’re not that high on IT, you renounce his rights and you can go after some really decent mid-level talent.

      This route keeps you out of any bidding war, allows you to get the superstar to appease Jeannie and the fan base, and continue to build on the chemistry and growth we saw last season. You could sign two or three superstars and decimate the team, it’s certainly possible to do. But I’m not so sure that’s the best way forward. At any rate, we’ll find out sooner than later what Magic and Rob got cooking on the burners.

      • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

        Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 9:51 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Essentially what you said in your article, so, great write-up, LT!

        I don’t think RC Buford takes Leonard unless he can also package in either Mills or Gasol. If we’re dumping salary, he’ll insist, too. I suppose Pop and Buford could do Leonard a solid and hit rebuild but that sounds beyond outlandish. Deng ain’t going nowhere unless we W&S him.

        I say keep him and play him. After Thomas Bryant seeing no burn last season the other big mystery was why they didn’t play Deng to see if he could generate any interest. There certainly isn’t any, now. He couldn’t generate any less so…who knows.

        At any rate, I’m thinking there are more fireworks yet to come. The calendar turning followed by the draft ought to inform us of more than a little.

      • LakerTom (Publisher) 10:06 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        We’re saying the same thing, Jamie. Avoid LeBron. Sign one superstar and keep Randle and IT. That has the makings of a longer and more sustainable contending team. I would be fine with signing PG this summer and Kawhi next summer.

        • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

          Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 1:36 AM on June 16, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          I’m fine with LeBron, but only if it’s just LeBron and complimentary parts. George has never been to the NBA Finals, neither has Boogie. LBJ can impart much wisdom and that is something that should not be ignored.

          You can sign LeBron and keep Randle and IT, easily. If all parties are into it. Leonard this summer is my least favorite option as it involves breaking up the band. Continuity, chemistry, cohesion.

          Kinda hope it’s Boogie.

          • mclyne32 (Director) 3:32 PM on June 16, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            One very very important thing you’re forgetting is that LeBron ain’t coming, unless another star is coming with him.
            As you can see in my post above, I’m perfectly fine with him not coming because I value our youth.

        • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

          Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 1:38 AM on June 16, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          I think we agree on the multi “super star” dream is a disingenuous path to success. I’m basically fine with which whatever superstar it ends up being.

  • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

    Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 7:12 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink |  

    Pop and Leonard haven’t even talked yet. All this back channel BS reminds me of every off season, ever, and so I ain’t buying it. Second, PG, Leonard, James…how many small forwards does a team need? The older LBJ gets the less likely he’ll want to bang with 4s. I dunno…we’ll see, I guess.

    Also hard to see Pop trading him within the division and, frankly, the Celtics have more to offer. Laker fans don’t like to hear, and I certainly don’t like typing it, but all their guys got a major taste of the playoffs. Spurs could do a S&T for Marcus Smart and see if they could pry Jason Tatum and a draft pick away, since he’d be backing up Leonard, anyhow.

    Or bail on Smart, who could see himself finding more value on the open market and go with Brown and Tatum and picks (which Boston hoards for moments such as this). Or the Spurs could toss in Patty Mills and go for all 3 (Smart on a deal that makes the money work, Brown, Tatum and some picks). Not sure why Ainge would do that but…whatever, who cares?

    Luol Deng ain’t getting this deal done for LA, not unless it brings back either Mills or Pau. It’s just not and to say otherwise is folly. Maybe if Deng had, you know…played a little last season but he didn’t and so there’s not a lot of inspiration there one would imagine. RC isn’t stupid. S&T for Randle, Hart and maybe Ingram (depending on what Randle agrees to) could work but that’s a lot to give up. One would hope Leonard comes through his physical with sparkling colors.

    At any rate, I don’t see a clear path to Leonard becoming a Laker. the again, I didn’t see CP3 as a Rocket so…

     
    • Michael H (Editor)

      Michael H (Editor) 7:25 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I agree Jamie. Boston tried to trade for him last year. The rumor has been that the Celtics are worried that Kyrie will not resign with them. So Kyrie for Kawhi. Boston tosses in this years first and one or both of their likely lottery picks that they own next year. They each have a year to convince their players to stay and a bonus fo for the Spurs, they don’t have to take on Deng’s contract.

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 7:38 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I’m pretty certain from everything I’ve heard and read that Kawhi is probably gone from San Antonio. Where he goes will depend on whether Kawhi refuses to re-sign with other teams. Word is he is really unhappy in San Antonio and homesick to return to LA. His mother and godfather are pushing this path. It’s really a rerun of the Paul George situation. I think our strategy should be the same. Wait for Kawhi. Don’t trade away budding stars like Ingram and Kuzma when you get him for free next summer.

    • mclyne32 (Director) 7:50 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I would agree with you if this wasnt coming directly from Kawhi’s camp and reported by WOJ.

    • GDUBinDC

      GDUBinDC 9:29 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      U coulda ended ur post with that 1st line, JS.

  • Michael H (Editor)

    Michael H (Editor) 7:02 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink |  

    Be careful what you wish for 

    Aloha,

    I have always been for adding stars to the our kids. But I have never been for trading them for a star. If trading for Kawhi does not lead to a couple of rings then it could go down as perhaps the worst move in Lakers history. A line up of Lebron, Kawhi and PG sounds great but the Warriors can more then match them on both offense and Defense. Warriors have two superstars and two all stars, Lakers would have one less all star and little depth to match the Warriors depth. Don’t be fooled by this year, the Warriors were injury riddled all year with little cohesion. Even in the playoffs neither Curry nor Klay later were 100%. And how ironic would it be if the Warriors finally stumbled in a couple of years only to lose to the Ingram and Kuzma led Spurs. By adding to our young core we have the chance to contend for the next 10 years. Lebron will be 38 by end of a 4 year deal. Kawahi will be 31 and PG 32. Randle will be 27, Kuzma and Hart 26, Bi and Lonzo 24. I really don’t think it’s worth the risk.

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 7:43 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Right on, Jamie. You should like the Medium article I just published. We don’t have the depth yet to pull off such a move. That’s a move better suited for next summer.

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 6:02 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink |  

    The key to the Lakers landing Kawhi is his refusing to re-sign with any other team 

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 6:04 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Of course, this could all be this summer’s version of the Hampton Five. This could be LeBron James taking his next superteam into his own hands. I wouldn’t be surprised if he told Kawhi that he and PG would join the Lakers if he forces the Spurs to trade him there. You know these guys have been talking and plotting. Players can control everything now. The days of the GM’s putting together superteams may be gone.

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 5:34 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink |  

    Pressure now on Magic's Lakers with Kawhi-LeBron-George superteam real possibility 

    It’s only fitting that Magic Johnson is at the helm, because it’s showtime for the Los Angeles Lakers.

    Only this fast break doesn’t have Michael Cooper and James Worthy running the wings with Byron Scott spotting up behind the 3-point arc — this one has Kawhi Leonard trying to flee San Antonio, a homesick Paul George looking to play for his childhood team, and the megalodon of all big fish, LeBron James, looking to produce the climactic final act to his legendary career.

    The Lakers and their fans have been eagerly awaiting this moment for five years, crouched and wiggling like a lioness hiding in the brush, waiting for the unsuspecting free agent antelopes to drop their guard for a split-second.

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 5:43 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Excellent article by Colin Ward-Henninger for CBS Sports. There’s also a great video there where one of the San Antonio reporters who covers the Spurs talks about the split with Kawhi and what the Spurs might do. Not happy with Aldridge, how the injury was handled, and homesick for LA.

    • keen observer

      keen observer 10:23 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Yeah, and so far the Lakers have NONE of them.

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 5:28 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink |  

    Report: Lonzo in a deal for Kawhi is unlikely 

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 5:29 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Besides the Lakers not having any point guard, no way do the Spurs want anything to do with the Ball family.

    • mclyne32 (Director) 5:31 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      According to Cowherd today, the Spurs really wanted to take Kuzma in the draft.
      Extra incentive to trade with us.

      • LakerTom (Publisher) 5:48 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        And I think Ingram would be a great addition for the Spurs. He is the perfect replacement for Kawhi. Unless Kawhi says he will re-sign with a team, they’re not going to be able to beat an offer of Ingram and Kuzma or even Ingram and Hart, who has Spurs written all over him for his two-way play.

        • mud

          mud 6:30 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          if i had to choose between Ingram+Hart+Kuzma vs. Kawhi, the choice is easy. keep the kids.

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 4:01 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink |  

    The Most Likely Kawhi Leonard Landing Spots 

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 4:10 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Kawhi Leonard has a chance to prove that it’s the players who control building superteams not the GM’s. The vibe I’m getting from Kawhi is that he wants to go to the Lakers. Now he can either firm up that position and be the one in control, which is what I’m hoping he will do over the next couple of days, or he can blink and allow the GM’s to take over control of the situation by expanding his list to include other teams.

      If Kawhi is smart, he will stand firm that he will not re-sign with any team but the Lakers. He wants to come home, like PG, and creating a situation where whatever team gets him will lose more assets than if he just chose one and gave them leverage over the Spurs is not in his best interests. He wants the Lakers to have to give as little as possible to land him. Let’s see who really controls these situations. Kawhi’s camp has already take a bold and unexpected position without meeting with the Spurs. Now they need to close the deal.

      • mud

        mud 4:26 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        you’ve been talking to him?

        • LakerTom (Publisher) 4:48 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Yeah, last night in my mind. What is it, mud? You don’t want the Lakers to get Kawhi? Or you just tolling as usual. Most Lakers fans would at least be happy to hear the possibility of good news. You’re like the grinch who won’t cheer anything until it’s signed and sealed. How about a smile once in a while? :-)

          • mud

            mud 6:14 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            i’m happy at the possibility, but not at the prices mentioned.

            also, i don’t like all this talk like it’s a done deal, when there is only a wisp of smoke. yes, where there’s smoke, there’s fire, but if the ember isn’t pretty hot and deep, it usually goes out quickly.

            i am smiling.

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 3:51 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink |  

    Great article by Kevin Ding on Kyle Kuzma! 

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 4:12 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Man, I wouldn’t mind giving up Ingram to get Kawhi but I hate the idea of giving up Kuzma. This is a situation Kawhi needs to control. Ingram and Hart should be enough.

      • mud

        mud 4:27 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Ingram is at least as hard a worker as Kuzma, and he has more kinds of skills than Kuzma. i don’t want to give up either for a rental.

        • LakerTom (Publisher) 4:51 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Fair point, mud. That’s a risk because these max guys all lose around $80 million by signing an extension. Best you can hope for is verbal assurances and nothing goes wrong during the year.

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 3:41 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink |  

    Here is the only way the Lakers could trade for Kawhi before the draft 

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 3:45 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Spurs also get Lakers 2019 first round pick.

      STARTERS
      —————
      PG: LONZO BALL
      SG: PAUL GEORGE
      SF: LEBRON JAMES
      PF: KAWHI LEONARD
      CE: OPEN

      RESERVES
      —————--
      PG: OPEN
      SG: JOSH HART
      SF: OPEN
      PF: CHANNING FRYE
      CE: OPEN

      #25 PICK, #47 PICK, Room Exception , and Vet Minimum would be critical in filling up starting center and backup point guard, small forward, and center holes. But a potential championship contender who could give the Warriors a real challenge.

      • LakerTom (Publisher) 3:48 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Wonder if LeBron and PG might be willing to take less to give the Lakers room to sign Noel to play center. Then we might be able to get Rondo to sign on as backup point guard and mentor for Lonzo using the room exception. Or bring back SwaggyP for a shooter. JK.

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 4:13 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Hart and Kuzma are interchangeable. Lakers line in the sand should be Ingram, Hart, and Deng for Kawhi and Forbes.

    • mclyne32 (Director) 4:20 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      IF we are trading from a position of power, it should be Ingram, Deng, and a second rounder.
      This could only happen if Kawhi’s camp shortens the list to one.

      • mud

        mud 4:29 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        why do they get Ingram?

        why does it have to be a fair trade? if Kawhi is really holding all the cards, the Spurs have no choice…

        • LakerTom (Publisher) 4:31 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Right now Kawhi has said he favors a trade to the Lakers. He needs to say he won’t re-sign unless traded to the Lakers. Part of the problem is the Lakers need to have cap space to sign LeBron and PG after the trade. Frankly, they need to include Lonzo or Ingram in the trade because their the only ones right now with big enough salaries to match Kawhi. Trading after July 1st eliminates that so I doubt the trade would happen before free agency. It all comes down to Kawhi’s camp limited choices to Lakers.

          • mud

            mud 4:33 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            when has he said anything directly?

            all this is based on some instagram posts?

        • LakerTom (Publisher) 4:32 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          They get Ingram because he can’t really play the 1 or the 5 and Kawhi, LeBron, and PG will fill those other positions.

          • mud

            mud 4:36 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            so?

            when do we see if Kawhi is actually healthy?
            when do we see if PG and LeBron actually sign?

            if he will only re-up with the Lakers, the Spurs hold no leverage. when will he say these things?

            jumping up and down because this fits a fantasy isn’t productive in any way.

            • mud

              mud 4:41 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink

              Ingram can come off of the bench.

      • LakerTom (Publisher) 4:29 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        That is the key. Exercise your power, Kawhi. You do have to give them something for taking Deng, which is the only way you can make the trade work before July 1st. Could be the Spurs will wait until then when the Lakers are over the cap and don’t have to match salaries. Then a trade of Kawhi for Ingram, Hart, and the 2019 pick would be a better deal. That’s the leverage the Spurs have over the Lakers because the Lakers need to get rid of Deng with no salary in return in order to have space for LeBron and PG. That’s their leverage. They could threaten to wait until they don’t have to take Deng. Then Lakers would be $10M short of the cap space to add both LeBron and PG unless they were somehow to get a team to take Deng for their 2021 and 2023 picks, which is not going to happen. More to come…

        • mud

          mud 4:43 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          no, the Lakers do NOT have to give something for taking Deng. they can give draft picks.

          the Lakers can deal with the 10 mil, when the time comes. if Kahwi REALLY only wants to come to the Lakers, then the Spurs CAN wait, but if they do, they get nothing.

          • mclyne32 (Director) 5:23 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            They are going to want at least one young promising piece plus picks in return.

            • mud

              mud 6:15 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink

              who cares what they want? would they rather have nothing?

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