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  • LakerTom (Publisher) 6:39 PM on September 19, 2017 Permalink |  

    Why Lakers' signing of Andrew Bogut is a 'bit perplexing' 

    The Lakers agreed to sign center Andrew Bogut to a reported one-year, minimum contract. NBA Inside Kevin Pelton breaks down the move here.

    The fit for Bogut with the Lakers is a bit perplexing to me. L.A. already had three centers on the roster, having dealt for Brook Lopez and drafted Ivica Zubac and Thomas Bryant in the second round the past two years. Moreover, the Lakers will want to play Julius Randle and Larry Nance together in smaller frontcourts on a regular basis. Such lineups played 409 minutes last season, per NBA.com/Stats, despite Nance missing 19 games due to injury.

    So where will Luke Walton find playing time for Bogut, who started for him when Walton filled in for Steve Kerr as head coach with the Golden State Warriors? Presumably, the youngsters will take a back seat, which is disappointing given they have the chance to be part of the Lakers’ long-term future. If the Lakers use their cap space next summer to sign two perimeter players, they’ll have to renounce Lopez to clear room and will have only their midlevel exception (estimated $4.5 million) to spend more than the veteran’s minimum on a replacement. One of Zubac or Bryant will likely need to play a rotation role.

    Of course, given Bogut’s injury history — he was limited to 27 games last season — Zubac and Bryant will probably have opportunities. And given the low price, the Lakers may value Bogut more for his veteran presence in the locker room than his ability on the court. Still, I can’t say this is how I expected them to fill the final spot on their roster, assuming Bogut in fact makes the team.

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 6:43 PM on September 19, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Valid concerns brought up by Pelton. What’s going to happen to small ball, which is what playing fast is all about?

      • keen observer

        keen observer 7:10 PM on September 19, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        As I recall, the Showtime Lakers had a slow, loping center who trotted down the court behind the greatest transition game known to mankind. Just because the Warriors have the ingredients to play that way doesn’t mean it’s the right formula for everyone. They have three of the greatest 3 point shooters of all-time on their team. The Lakers have no one who comes anywhere near those guys on their roster. Zubac and Bryant are infants. Bogut is a rim protecting, screen setting, passing center who I would much rather see anchoring the defense on the second unit than playing small ball as the first option. One player won’t slow anything down anyway. He’ll rebound, make the outlet pass and they can go off to the races.

      • mud

        mud 8:48 PM on September 19, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Don Nelson retired a long time ago…

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 7:49 PM on September 19, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Word on the street is that Brook is having some back issues and will miss the beginning of preseason. Maybe AB is some insurance just in case it becomes a bigger problem. But with AB’s injury history that’s a dicey proposition as well.

    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 8:34 PM on September 19, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I mean, I don’t envision Lopez and Bogut sharing a lot of floor time. But Bogut could certainly anchor a defensive-minded line up with a plethora of players surrounding him. Most importantly, he knows the kind of system Luke wants to run. He knows the role, he knows it’ll never be about him. If Lopez is dealing with a balky back, so much the better. Cheap, savvy, sounds like he’s got a little something in the tank. The opposite of the Mozgov signing.

  • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

    Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 4:48 PM on September 19, 2017 Permalink |  

    That answers that question 

    Looks like both numbers will be retired, now we can all sleep easier.

     
  • LakerTom (Publisher) 3:31 PM on September 19, 2017 Permalink |  

    Kevin Durant is upset with himself over the Twitter incident: 

     
    • mud

      mud 4:20 PM on September 19, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      so what?

    • mclyne32 (Director) 4:31 PM on September 19, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      SOFT.

    • therealhtj

      therealhtj 5:28 PM on September 19, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      He’s upset that he feels the need to create fake accounts on twitter to defend himself from anonymous haters online and he was too dumb/high/careless to watch which account he was using? Good thing he’s pretty decent at putting a ball in a hole.

      • Magicman (Editor)

        Magicman (Editor) 8:20 PM on September 19, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Def not dumb.

        He higher than a MF responding to them. And being high only exasperates the prob.

        When that TMZ vid showed him dropping a big bag of weed…you know. :)

        • GDUBinDC

          GDUBinDC 12:49 PM on September 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Well, let’s just hope he’s smart enough to invest in some cannabis stocks. IJS

      • AK27

        AK27 6:54 AM on September 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        :D

    • keen observer

      keen observer 6:37 PM on September 19, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Who cares.

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 7:51 PM on September 19, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Kinda unique to see a guy take responsibility instead of claiming he was hacked. It’ll pass….

    • Magicman (Editor)

      Magicman (Editor) 8:43 PM on September 19, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Some dudes are naturals with foolish and dumb people.

      Dame Lillard comes to mind. Steve Smith Sr. So does a comedian like Corey Holcomb.Twitter is full of fake fools and bots. Hahahahahaha

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 3:10 PM on September 19, 2017 Permalink |  

    What Happened to Superman? How Dwight Lost His Way and Is Trying to Get It Back 

     
    • mclyne32 (Director) 4:33 PM on September 19, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Nope.
      He’s a fool who wasted his NBA talent.
      Think of all the millions of people who would give their left nut to be blessed with his body.

    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 4:37 PM on September 19, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Whatever was taken from me? Please….

    • keen observer

      keen observer 6:38 PM on September 19, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Who cares.

      • Seely_Iggy (Director)

        Seely_Iggy (Director) 6:57 PM on September 19, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Haha now THIS is the Keen I know. Not the super polite and agreeable guy who’s been masquerading as Keen the last couple of weeks :)

        • keen observer

          keen observer 7:03 PM on September 19, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Thank you. Why anyone gives sh!t about Dwight Howard cracks me up. Same with Kevin Durant. That isn’t Lakers stuff. It’s just pure crap.

          • Seely_Iggy (Director)

            Seely_Iggy (Director) 9:25 PM on September 19, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Well, scrollable materials for me…. some others may find it interesting.

      • Worthy42

        Worthy42 5:39 AM on September 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Pretty sure this was for Tate…he loves the guy.

        • tate793

          tate793 7:51 AM on September 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Really? Did Tate tell you that?

        • Worthy42

          Worthy42 10:24 AM on September 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Edited: Pretty sure this was for Tate…he constantly apologizes for the guys no-heart performance as a Laker.

    • tate793

      tate793 12:52 PM on September 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      You must have Tate mixed up with someone else. He doesn’t “constantly apologize” for anyone or anything.

      Interesting, when viewed, the single season that Dwight Howard spent with the Lakers, saw him attain All Star status, while leading the league in rebounds, and top 5 ranking in FG%, blocked shots while maintainng his career avg in points and minutes played after undergoing off season back surgery.

      All accomplished while playing for a coach that’s disdained post play, and incredibly ill-informed revisionist fans, whose little bitty minds got entrapped by a false narrative .

      • mud

        mud 1:09 PM on September 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        i’m not hot on D’Antoni, but he wasn’t responsible for Howard’s problems. Dwight was NEVER a good post player and he still isn’t. Dwight is a great pick and roll player, but he doesn’t want to do that. Dwight stunk on ice with the Lakers, numbers or not. his best days in Orlando were mostly because of pick and roll on offense and THAT is D’Antoni’s forte. personally, i never wanted D’Antoni, but it wasn’t because he was incompetent. i just hated his game.

        Dwight did little to help the team win, and his showing in the playoffs was pitiful, especially after the effort that Kobe gave getting the team to the playoffs. Dwight could have put the team on his back at least ONCE, if he is really a great player.

        let’s just chalk it up to a “bad fit” and a bad attitude.

        the proof that Dwight was the problem is his behavior on his next couple of teams. talent or no, he’s a bum.

        • tate793

          tate793 1:24 PM on September 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Strange, how a guy can achieve and surpass his career avgs, during the playoffs and be considered a bum, or pitiful.

          His “behavior” in Houston was not a problem. The empirical evidence cannot be denied by invoking the worn out, albeit, nigh at hand “inspite of the numbers” .

          I guess you would consider Lamar Odom a “problem” , too, considering his performance on his next couple of teams.

          Again, strange. The same folk that were hoping he would stay, are the very ones that are lambasting him.

          “A woman scorned…….”

          • tate793

            tate793 1:31 PM on September 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Besides, he’s moved on, (closely followed by the another player). Don’t know why he is constantly being revisited. Then again, yes I do.

            • mud

              mud 4:32 PM on September 20, 2017 Permalink

              yes, Lamar was a problem in Dallas.

              good numbers don’t make a great player, as important a production is. great players = wins regardless of numbers.

              i didn’t actually care when he left. his playoff performance for the Lakers was PITIFULLY BAD. yes, he had rebounds and blocks, but he also had turnovers at inopportune times, played no better than the disgruntled Pau Gasol(both were bad that series) and showed no concern for the team’s fate. his performance was gutless. he got his numbers but put in no extra effort.

              of course, he owes me nothing, but personally, i don’t want players who don’t put their bodies on the line for the team, whether that is fair or unfair. that is how i would operate and it’s what i expect from the Lakers players. DH never put himself on the line.

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 2:55 PM on September 19, 2017 Permalink |  

    I would add Seattle and St. Louis 

     
    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 7:54 PM on September 19, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Hard to pin this all on market size when you got a buncha teams in the upper third losing money.

  • GDUBinDC

    GDUBinDC 1:31 PM on September 19, 2017 Permalink |  

    So what’s the bottom line?

    http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20715128/nba-player-salaries-take-home-pay

     
    • keen observer

      keen observer 1:44 PM on September 19, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Wow, after reading this I am probably not the only person who feels sorry for these guys.

      • GDUBinDC

        GDUBinDC 2:20 PM on September 19, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Wouldn’t go so far as to say I feel ‘sorry’ for them, but I do appreciate knowing the reality of their salary situation.

        • keen observer

          keen observer 2:26 PM on September 19, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          How would you like to CLEAR 15 mil while making major contributions to the great country that gave you this opportunity? Seems like a great deal for everyone.

        • Seely_Iggy (Director)

          Seely_Iggy (Director) 6:55 PM on September 19, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          I think Keen was being sarcastic, G :)

    • mud

      mud 1:47 PM on September 19, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 2:29 PM on September 19, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      That’s all before their tax attorneys and accountants prepare their tax returns. When you make that kind of money, you have the resources to shelter a lot of that income. The dumb ones spend it all. The smart ones invest it and use the investments to cut their taxes.

    • therealhtj

      therealhtj 5:29 PM on September 19, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      California got Steph over a barrel like the rest of us.

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 7:59 PM on September 19, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Guys playing on the 4 Cali teams get screwed even more because alotta their road games are still in the state getting hit with the same high taxes. Directly opposite for the 3 Texas teams…

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 1:08 PM on September 19, 2017 Permalink |  

    The man, the myth, the legend: Lonzo is No. 17 on our list of the best under-25 players 

     
    • keen observer

      keen observer 1:45 PM on September 19, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Another ranking of a guy who hasn’t played one second in the NBA. I love him, convinced that he is both unique and special, but please.

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 1:05 PM on September 19, 2017 Permalink |  

    Los Angeles Lakers training camp and preseason dates to know 

    Because of the excitement around the team this season, I thought it would be beneficial to Lakers fans to see important dates leading up to the regular season beginning with the start of training camp and media day.

    Sept. 25- Training camp begins/Media Day

    Sept. 30- first preseason game vs. Minnesota Timberwolves (@ Anaheim Honda Center)

    Oct. 2- vs. Denver Nuggets (@ Staples Center)

    Oct. 4- vs. Denver Nuggets in Toronto, Canada (@ Ontario CBBA)

    Oct. 8- vs. Sacramento Kings (@ Las Vegas T-Mobile Arena)

    Oct. 10- vs. Utah Jazz at Staples

    Oct. 19- regular season tips off vs. Los Angeles Clippers

    The Los Angeles Lakers confirmed on Twitter that training camp and Media Day get underway on Monday, Sept. 25 at the UCLA Health Training Center in El Segundo, California. This gives the team five days to work on playing together before taking on another team that underwent an offseason of change, the Minnesota Timberwolves. The starters should see around 15-20 minutes in this game.

     
  • LakerTom (Publisher) 12:35 PM on September 19, 2017 Permalink |  

    Well said, Kareem! 

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 12:53 PM on September 19, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      We all need to take steps to combat racism and hatred in our communities. If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. It’s that simple.

      I live in Mill Valley, a very well-heeled liberal community just north of the Golden Gate Bridge. My grandson is a senior at Tamalpais High School. The principal of Tam High is an African-American. Last month we had the latest in a series of racist graffiti posted on the side of a building at Tam High attacking the principal.

      Frankly, my wife and I were astonished and ashamed that such an event could still happen in our community. It felt like we have accomplished nothing in all these years since we were kids in high school. And it’s too simplistic to blame this all on Donald Trump. He’s just the virus allowing this to come out.

      What can we do as individuals and communities? The answer is to be proactive and call anybody out, family or friend, who makes a racist comment. This is the type of behavior that can only be changed 1-on1 person by person.

      A good friend of ours, Patrice O’Neil of the ‘The Working Group’ and ‘Not in our Town’ have been working with communities for over 20 years and put on the following community meeting to address the issues. Here is a Tweet about the meeting she setup for our community:

      https://twitter.com/patiodeoak/status/905860248170323969

    • GDUBinDC

      GDUBinDC 2:17 PM on September 19, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      So, in essence, what Cap’s really sayin’ is, ‘ain’t a damm thing changed’ … or at least very little has as regards race relations in this society.

      • LakerTom (Publisher) 2:41 PM on September 19, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Hey, GDUB,

        In a way, yes, that is what Cap is saying and what we personally experienced in our town recently.

        I do think there have been a lot of changes that have been positive and I do believe there is less racism in our world today than 20 years ago. But while things have gotten better, the problem is still serious and we have a long long way to go.

        Unfortunately, there have also been economic, social, and political changes that have made the situation worse. I think the big difference today is the death of political correctness that allows extremists to say and do terrible things hiding behind our rights to free speech. Trump’s not responsible for racism and hatred but he is responsible for providing both with shelter and enabling those who are racist and deplorable.

        Truth is I think we have probably reduced the amount of racism and hatred through education, co-mingling of races and religion, and the march of time but it’s a problem will probably never completely go away. Best we can hope it to keep fighting the good fight, one person at a time. Hopefully, bringing it into the open will enable a more intelligent and smart approach towards dealing with it.

        I also think the major purveyors of information online need to be held accountable for how they have allowed news and information to be distorted and used for nefarious results. We’re facing chaotic changes in global information, communication, and infrastructure that have let the dogs loose. It will take time, persistence, and working together to restore civility and honesty needed to make this a better world.

      • AK27

        AK27 7:06 AM on September 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Well, he didn’t say that the “same inequities” exist to the same degree as they did 50 years ago. So, “ain’t a d**n thing changed” probably isn’t accurate. Hard to argue with the long, difficult road ahead though.

        • GDUBinDC

          GDUBinDC 8:23 AM on September 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Well when u look at the bottom line, which, in a capitalistic society, is how most ppl measure or determine their status … as a group, black ppl, in economic terms, r pretty much in the same position they were 50 years ago and perhaps in an even worse position. And last I checked, this is STILL very much a capitalist economic system, no?

          • AK27

            AK27 8:44 AM on September 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            I am talking about Cap’s comment and the context in which it was made… has Kaepernick’s treatment been just as bad as that of Smith/Carlos ? is the economic facet the only one that influenced the reaction from people ?

            as a group, black pp, in economic terms, r pretty much in the same position they were 50 years ago and perhaps in an even worse position.

            the economic gap hasn’t gotten better, that is indeed true. what makes you suspect it might have gotten worse, G ?

    • tate793

      tate793 7:45 AM on September 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      The same inequities exist to a greater degree in that they are out in the open, wearing suits, uniforms and judicial robes. They are seated in the House of Representatives and in the Senate. They can be found within the storied wings of the WH and in the community.

      Same old s#it, just a different orifice.

      • GDUBinDC

        GDUBinDC 8:25 AM on September 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Zactly, tate … so in other words, ‘ain’t a damm thing changed’. That is if one isn’t in denial.

      • AK27

        AK27 8:48 AM on September 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        they are out in the open, wearing suits, uniforms and judicial robes. They are seated in the House of Representatives and in the Senate. They can be found within the storied wings of the WH and in the community.

        True but wasn’t this the case 50 years ago as well ? I am not sure how today’s situation is worse.

        • GDUBinDC

          GDUBinDC 11:31 AM on September 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          So u’re agreeing that ‘ain’t a damm thing changed’ for black people in the past 50 years, AK?

          • AK27

            AK27 12:11 PM on September 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            No. Even Tate doesn’t seem to agree with “ain’t a damm thing changed”. He said “The same inequities exist to a greater degree ” which means he believes things haven’t remained the same but gotten worse. Perhaps he is right but it seems the elements he mentioned were present back then as well. Hence my question.

            You thought I disagreed with what you said but I only pointed out that Cap’s comments didn’t quite translate into “ain’t a damm thing changed”. It doesn’t mean that I think it’s untrue. Maybe it is, maybe not. Like I said above, I think it’s accurate with regard to the economic disparity but, on the whole, I don’t know, G.

            • GDUBinDC

              GDUBinDC 12:36 PM on September 20, 2017 Permalink

              Fair enough. I agree with tate bcuz I don’t trust the statistics that the gov’t reports. I believe those numbers r conservative, at best, and perhaps outright lies, especially the unemployment figures given by the BLS.

    • tate793

      tate793 1:54 PM on September 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      From my perspective, the statement “ain’t a damned thing changed” is essentially true, and would also encompass the state of worsening conditions.

      The intensity of racism today is ratcheted up a notch, or two, emboldened by the rhetoric of political and economical climates. Trump’s agenda seems to be pushing as hard for a race war as he is for a world war. The murdering of Black people by those who are invested with the oath of “serving and protecting” them is infinitely more blatant, and excused by that racist infrastructure that is founded upon the premise of disliking anything, and anyone that you fear or don’t trust.

      I’ve had fire hoses and police dogs turned on me in the south, and I’ve witnessed, first hand, the deeply seeded need of some law enforcement agencies to discharge their lethal weapons at African Americans, all the while, shunning the use of nonlethal means.

      I don’t have to ask anybody, or google anything about it. I lived it. Whether you lynch a man in the woods, or gun him down in the streets of the city. He’s still a statistical testimonial to the racial hatred in this world.

      No, ain’t a damned thing changed…………….yet.

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 12:32 PM on September 19, 2017 Permalink |  

    Lakers News: L.A. Most Profitable NBA Team By Large Margin 

    The Lakers finished with a gargantuan $115 million profit as measured by net income even after writing a revenue-sharing check for almost $49 million, according to league accounting. That was the highest net income in the league by nearly $25 million. The biggest factor was the $149 million they took in from massive local media rights deals, primarily with Time Warner.

    The Lakers profiting nearly $25 million more than the Golden State Warriors, the league’s second-most profitable team, shows just how popular the franchise remains. The Warriors had the benefit of more national TV exposure and a run to the NBA Championship and still weren’t close to the Lakers.

    Now as the team has drafted Lonzo Ball, who already has a massive following, and Brandon Ingram continues to improve, the Lakers are only going to continue to get better. With their eyes on the likes of LeBron James and Paul George next summer in free agency, it could only be a matter of time before the Lakers have another superstar on the roster and further separate themselves.

     
  • LakerTom (Publisher) 12:17 PM on September 19, 2017 Permalink |  

    Lonzo dunking and dancing! 

    Lonzo can get up 👀 (via @zo)

    A post shared by Bleacher Report (@bleacherreport) on

     
  • LakerTom (Publisher) 12:08 PM on September 19, 2017 Permalink |  

    Kevin Durant's full explanation on negative Tweets about OKC coach & teammates 

     
    • mclyne32 (Director) 2:06 PM on September 19, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Big ole Softie.

    • GDUBinDC

      GDUBinDC 2:25 PM on September 19, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Seems like he’s decided to take a mature approach which is wise IMO.

      • AK27

        AK27 7:03 AM on September 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Lol, your loyalty is quite commendable, G . How have you been ? :)

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 12:05 PM on September 19, 2017 Permalink |  

    Gap in NBA team revenues has important Seattle implications: 

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 12:08 PM on September 19, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      NBA should have never allowed the Thunder to abandon Seattle for OKC.
      Problem is too many small market teams. You can see this is going to become a major issue next contract.

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 12:00 PM on September 19, 2017 Permalink |  

    Rifts growing among small- and big-market NBA owners over revenue sharing 

    “Teams in small markets are told we need to run our businesses better so we can make money,” one ownership source told ESPN.com. “But teams in the largest markets can run their businesses poorly and still make money.”

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 12:03 PM on September 19, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Lakers building a superteam is not going to sit well with the small market owners.
      Could become a major issue in next negotiation. It’s not owners vs. players.
      It’s big market vs. small market owners.

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 11:58 AM on September 19, 2017 Permalink |  

    3 Reasons why signing Andrew Bogut was smart 

     
    • keen observer

      keen observer 1:49 PM on September 19, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Reason #1 is really stupid. Reason #2 makes some sense, although Brook Lopez has had back to back relatively injury free seasons (73 and 75 games) and is only 29. Reason #3 is obvious.

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