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  • LakerTom (Publisher) 9:24 AM on December 15, 2017 Permalink |  

    A microphone picked up most of LeBron's comments to Lonzo after last night’s game 

    Find your zone and just stay f—ing locked in. The media is going to ask you what I told you right now. Tell them nothing. Just be aggressive every single day.

    It’s white noise to you. That’s all it is. Alright? Let’s go.

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 8:32 AM on December 15, 2017 Permalink |  

    We didn’t come away with the win but the young squad showed good fight last night! 

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 8:37 AM on December 15, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I was pleased at how we competed last night. Great effort on defense and great sharing of the ball with 33 assists. Great to see BI bounce back, Lonzo play and shoot with confidence and flirt with another triple-double, and Josh Hart get his first start and post a double-double.

      While I’ve been critical of some of the moves by Luke, I can’t complain about how he has gotten the players to buy in on playing both ends and attacking the paint. Great foundation for building a championship caliber team. Great road trip. Now let’s see if we can win some games at home.

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 8:27 AM on December 15, 2017 Permalink |  

    Lonzo figuring it out and making progress! 

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 8:22 AM on December 15, 2017 Permalink |  

    It’s almost as if the Lakers are a LeBron James away from being really good 

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 8:24 AM on December 15, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Exactly what I thought watching the team on this road trip. Of course, you could say that about many other teams too but the Lakers young core grew a lot on this road trip. Let’s see if they can win one of the next three against the Warriors (twice) and Rockets.

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 8:15 AM on December 15, 2017 Permalink |  

    Trading PG for KCP could be win-win for both Lakers and Thunder 

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 8:20 AM on December 15, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Lakers get PG now rather than having to wait until this summer.
      Hart takes over as starting shooting guard for Lakers.

      Starters: Lonzo, Hart, Ingram, PG, Randle
      Bench: Caruso, Clarkson, Kuzma, Nance, Lopez

      Thunder get a needed replacement for Roberson who can defend and score.
      And a player they have a chance to re-sign this summer,
      which they don’t have with Paul George.

      Makes sure they get something for PG after trading away Oladipo and Sabonis.
      Lakers could throw in Zubac or Nance to sweeten the deal.

    • tate793

      tate793 2:54 PM on December 15, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Being on a 2 way contract, how many games can Carusso give? Plus, you can’t keep ignoring the fact that PG said he wouldn’t play the 4. Might as well move Brook, too, and bring up Bryant. At least we’d gain some rebounding, some rim protection and still stretch the floor.

      • LakerTom (Publisher) 4:20 PM on December 15, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Hey, Tate, We’re switching everything on defense so it’s really positionless basketball. I don’t see PG having any problems with that. Caruso is just the best option at this point. Ennis hasn’t shown he can do the job. Might give some minutes to Brewer for his D but we’re short a guard if we trade KCP.

        The other thing you could do which makes sense is play PG at the 2. Lonzo, PG, Ingram, Kuzma, and Randle would work. Great length at 1-4. Put Bryant in there and you have great length and 3-point threat at all 5 positions.

        I want to see Thomas Bryant get some minutes so I would love to trade Brick and was planning on looking at which playoff contending teams have underperforming centers and might be interested in Lopez’ expiring contract.

        Right now, if wins aren’t the most important thing and we aren’t likely to re-sign Lopez of KCP, wouldn’t the smart thing to do be trade them now prospects or picks and to open up playing time for Hart and maybe Bryant. That’s what I would do but I think Magic still wants to win games to attract LeBron.

        • keen observer

          keen observer 8:45 AM on December 16, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          I watched Thomas Bryant last night. 32, 10 and 5. He’s too raw from what I saw despite his solid game. Needs much more development.

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 8:06 AM on December 15, 2017 Permalink |  

    90% of the NBA is now eligible to be traded 

    Los Angeles Lakers

    What to watch

    Julius Randle: For the Lakers to optimize Randle’s trade value, the former lottery pick would need to be traded by the Feb. 8 deadline. The obstacle that Lakers management will face is finding a team willing to trade away a key asset (like a draft pick) for a player they could sign as a restricted free agent in July.

    Randle’s bird rights (carrying the ability to exceed the cap) have appeal based on the majority of the teams not having cap space next summer. If the Lakers fail to trade Randle, they run the risk of losing him for nothing in the offseason.

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 7:49 AM on December 15, 2017 Permalink |  

    Paul George reportedly doesn’t have much trade value because of the Lakers 

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 7:52 AM on December 15, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Presti was a genius last summer for making this trade but now that Oladipo and Sabonis are playing well for Indy and PG and the Thunder have struggled, the worm has turned. Let PG walk for nothing or take whatever the Lakers might offer for him at the trading deadline.

      For Lakers, the question is whether to trade for PG using the players whose contracts they need to move. Would work great if they knew there was a second elite free agent they were sure they could sign this summer. Going to be interesting to see what the Lakers do as far as trades now that it’s Dec 15th.

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 7:43 AM on December 15, 2017 Permalink |  

    Brook Lopez airballed two straight free throws against the Cavaliers 

  • For whom the bell trolls 10:16 PM on December 14, 2017 Permalink |  

    KCP will be traded tomorrow.

    • Michael H (Editor)

      Michael H (Editor) 10:31 PM on December 14, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I had the same thought. Tomorrow is the first day he can be traded and he doesn’t play.

    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 11:25 PM on December 14, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      The game is afoot!

    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 11:27 PM on December 14, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Trade for Boogie straight up?

    • tate793

      tate793 11:47 PM on December 14, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Josh Hart makes him expendable.

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 7:45 AM on December 15, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      You have to love how Josh Hart has been playing. His defense has always been elite but his offense is starting to come around. He could really make KCP expendable.

    • Worthy42

      Worthy42 9:04 AM on December 15, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Hope so, he adds no value. Takes and misses too many 3’s in clutch time.

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 9:20 AM on December 15, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      He is still adjusting to the longer distance. Started out 0-25 or something like that but has been shooting pretty well recently. I also like how he attacks the rim. Last night, he even did a good job defending LeBron James. How many 2 guards can do that? Solid player who fits our style.

      Will improve as a shooter. He has hit 6 of 12 3-point shots in December for 50%, which tops team for December. BI and KCP are shooting 38% on threes in December.

      • Worthy42

        Worthy42 11:04 AM on December 15, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I was referring to KCP. I am very positive on Josh Hart.

  • MongoSlade

    MongoSlade 8:06 PM on December 14, 2017 Permalink |  

    5pt game with around 3 minutes to go.
    We jack 3’s on three straight possessions.
    Lebron 2 buckets at the rim.

  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 7:46 PM on December 14, 2017 Permalink |  

    MM, you out????

  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 4:36 PM on December 14, 2017 Permalink |  

    Last Laker winning season was 2012-13, when Kobe gave his last gasp to lead Lakers to PO’s. We got, perhaps a prayer to finish above .500 this year. Spurs last losing season was 1996/97. Yankees last losing season was 1992. So, yeah, think we should stay the course and we don’t need “no stinkin” LBJ or PG or Cuz or. Let’s stay the same stagnant franchise and resign extensions to KCP and Lopez. Well, that is if you are happy with losing. I am not sure where all this “dislike” business comes from about any Laker player. I had no ill will towards Ronnie Price, or Wayne Ellington, or Wes Johnson, or Timmy Moz, or Jodi Meeks, or Kent Baze, or DLO. Nothing against Nance or Randle, or Zub, or Lopez, or KCP, or LB, or Ingy and so on. Just have an idea on how we can win and what it takes. Ya’ll know the definition of…..Best to show LBJ what he’s missing if he doesn’t consider us next year or Cuz or PG or whoever.

    • mud

      mud 4:39 PM on December 14, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      it’s not your choice or mine or anyone else who participates here. who are you arguing with?
      no Lakers fans want the team to keep losing.

      who really cares what the other teams do? their situations are different, they deal with what they deal with and the Lakers deal with what they deal with, mistakes or not and all else. stop being jealous.

    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 5:47 PM on December 14, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I get your point DJ, treading water isn’t getting us any further upstream. Some folks give the old front office a major pass, some of the guys I would have rather us signed haven’t panned out (Kent Bazemore comes to mind) but the front office has been on a long losing streak when it comes to free agents they’ve pursued. So, regardless of the outcome, the front office wanted LaMarcus Aldridge. They let decent talent walk out the door for nothing (Howard and Gasol).

      Current front office is better at creating an air of more realistic expectations, although they now direct those expectation onto specific players…we all got things we need to work on. At any rate, I’m hopeful for this off-season. I think an improved defense and a max slot with players who are obviously finding their way int eh NBA will be enough to lure at least one player of import and we can always trade for one, although that guts a lot of the development work the team has put into these guys.

      Bottom line: the sooner we figure out how to win,l the more fun this all gets.

    • mud

      mud 7:07 PM on December 14, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      besides, out of those FA mentioned only LBJ takes a mediocre team into the realm of contender.

      you can’t have what you want right now.

      the Lakers aren’t embarrassing themselves if they are losers, at least.

    • keen observer

      keen observer 7:18 PM on December 14, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply


  • LakerTom (Publisher) 11:14 AM on December 14, 2017 Permalink |  

    How good is LeBron’s fit with Lonzo and the Lakers? 

    During their time in the lottery, the Lakers have accumulated plenty of young talent on cheap contracts. That makes the idea of cutting loose several players to sign two max free agents viable. But there are still no surefire stars on the Lakers’ roster, as Shelburne and Windhorst noted, and their skill sets don’t appear ideally suited to complementing a star free agent.

    That could give James and other veteran stars pause as they consider the Lakers in free agency.

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 11:17 AM on December 14, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Kevin Pelton also believes that teams need to surround LeBron James with players who can shoot, which is exactly what you need to do to maximize return from Lonzo Ball. Unfortunately, shooting is the Lakers biggest problem. Unless Lakers were willing to trade Lonzo Ball for shooters, the Lakers don’t seem to be a good match for LBJ even ignoring age issue.

  • p ang

    p ang 10:04 AM on December 14, 2017 Permalink |  


    “About half the teams in League you could use as an example.”

    precisely. the team and the boys are really not that good yet.

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 9:55 AM on December 14, 2017 Permalink |  

    Should the Lakers Change their Starting Five? 

    The Lonzo, Caldwell-Pope, Ingram, Nance, Lopez group is one of the worst performing 5-man lineups which has played (relatively) heavy minutes this season.

    Of groups that have played 150 minutes or more, only the Orlando Magic starting 5 has a worse net rating (-11.7) than the Lakers current starting 5 (-8.4). If you up that to 200 minutes played, the Lakers are the worst (Orlando’s group is a hair under that threshold as of this writing). The only other teams who have lineups which perform this poorly at minute counts this high are the Bulls (-7.5 and who are terrible) and the Pistons (-7.5 and whose starting 5 is bad for reasons which aren’t entirely clear to me, but have been true all season).

    This brings me to Larry Nance. Nance is the quintessential “perfect 5th starter on a good team” who does all the little things coaches love while playing a style, especially on offense, which is devoid of loud mistakes that stand out when watching games. He dives for loose balls, is a more than willing passer, and basically acts as a conduit for all of the other players moving towards their strengths and away from their weaknesses. This has real value.

    The issue with this is, the Lakers aren’t a good team and, with the imbalance in their first 5 they very likely need someone who does more of the big things well in order to compensate for the other starters who either cannot or do not do them already. Swapping Nance for, say, Kyle Kuzma or Julius Randle may impact the team’s defense (Kuzma) or the flow of their offense (Randle), but I’m beginning to believe those trade-offs are worth it considering the performance of the starters as a whole.

    This isn’t a dig on Nance, necessarily. I like him as a player and think he really helps the team. If the composition of the roster were different — say if the team had established stars on the wing or more high usage players on the perimeter in general — I’d have no issue with him starting. But that’s not the case.

    Do I actually think Walton is going to make this type of change anytime soon? No, I do not. For one, Walton loves Nance and for good reason. I’m sure Walton doesn’t see Nance as the problem and, in a way, he’s not the problem. As I’ve said, what Nance does has value.

    The problem is, in the aggregate, the Lakers are not currently starting a mix of skills which result in good enough offense. They consistently start games poorly, fall behind on the scoreboard, and then have to make up deficits using their more productive lineups over the course of the game. This is a generalization, of course, but it happens a lot and, really, more than it should.

    So, if it were me, I’d move Nance to the bench. And I’d probably do it for Kuzma while keeping everything else the same. That’s the simplest solution even if it may still result in the starting group being a bit below the level in which they’d need to be. And this is where the lineup data comes back to tell another story. The group of Ball, KCP, Ingram, Kuzma, and Lopez has a net efficiency of -1.8 in 223 minutes this year. That’s solid, but if that were the team’s differential it would still only be good for 20th in the league.

    Still, though, it’s about 7 points per 100 possessions better than what the current starters are providing in about the same number of minutes. This is not a small number and I’d want to see if that could be sustained as the sample gets larger. Maybe it wouldn’t, but I think they deserve their chance to try.

    • DJ2KB24

      DJ2KB24 10:21 AM on December 14, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Give it a go.

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 10:31 AM on December 14, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply


    • LakerTom (Publisher) 10:44 AM on December 14, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Excellent unbiased analysis of problems with Lakers’ current starting lineup by Darius.

      • mud

        mud 11:35 AM on December 14, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Darius may be right or wrong, but he’s anything but unbiased.

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 10:51 AM on December 14, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      The topic has been beaten to death….

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 11:03 AM on December 14, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Because it’s still a major issue that needs to be addressed.

      • DJ2KB24

        DJ2KB24 2:01 PM on December 14, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Team is a stinking 10-16, why not experiment? If we were 18-8, stick wit it, but we aren’t.

        • mud

          mud 2:53 PM on December 14, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          10-16 is not bad at all for THIS team., they’re doing well, they are mostly competitive and have had many chances to win almost all the games they lost. it’s MUCH better ball than the team played last year. they are right on track. i do not understand all the hand wringing.

          • John M.

            John M. 3:43 PM on December 14, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            It’s clear Luke is not, nor should be, coaching from a fan’s perspective. How many times does he have to say this is a development year? Next season may be as well.

            • mud

              mud 4:43 PM on December 14, 2017 Permalink


              since when is a fan’s perspective based on reality? the very word “fan” says it all!

              maybe Luke Walton will get fired. i doubt very much if that will fix everything, but…

              maybe the old scapegoat will work. slit it’s throat and wear the blood. maybe that magic will break all curses and the goat can suffer for the sins of the organization.

            • John M.

              John M. 5:19 PM on December 14, 2017 Permalink

              Might even get Kuzma a start or twelve…

            • mud

              mud 7:00 PM on December 14, 2017 Permalink

              ok, but he’s a likely to do something as lame as any of them do. he’ll come into his own soon enough.

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