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  • p ang

    p ang 8:04 AM on October 6, 2018 Permalink  

    In case you missed it:

    The low post 5s are back. Embid and company are bringing back the bully boys.

    LakerTom’s worst nightmare. lol.

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 12:28 PM on October 6, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      LOL, Peter. I actually think the Lakers ‘tall ball’ lineup is pretty hot this year.

      TALL BALL: Lonzo, Hart, Ingram, LeBron, McGee

      And I think their ‘small ball’ lineup is pretty hot too.

      SMALL BALL: Lonzo, Hart, Ingram, Kuzma, LeBron

      • Seely_Iggy (Director)

        Seely_Iggy (Director) 1:54 PM on October 6, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I think they all look hot. Oh wait, you’re talking about basketball ;).

  • p ang

    p ang 4:18 PM on October 4, 2018 Permalink  

    “This was the absolute best possible fit basketball-wise for me… One thing that stood out that I didn’t even realize was that they were second in assists last season, which shows the culture and unselfishness of the team.”

    Julius Randle, New Orleans Pelicans

    So I guess Ju still hasn’t realized that the guy responsible for the Pel’s # 2 rating is not on the team anymore?

    Oh, and Ju, they were # 1 in pace too last season. But again…..

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 6:18 PM on October 4, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Hi, Peter. I think the Pels are a great fit for Julius. He needs to play alongside a stretch five and there is no better one than AD. He know he would not be a starter on the Lakers and I think that was as important as a longer contract. I think eventually small ball center will become Julius’ role in the league.

  • p ang

    p ang 8:22 PM on September 21, 2018 Permalink  

    What kind of offense do you run when you have all around players surrounding a superstar? The Triangle. Just like PJax ran it with Gary Payton. Run when you can, set up when you can’t. Except you don’t call it that. Its going to be renamed as the Luke Walton Lake Show offense or some other name.

    Much like when everybody adopted the Bill Walsh SF 49ers offense and just renamed it the West Coast offense so everybody would find it palatable.

    Sidenote:

    TWolves owner would rather trade Butler, a guy who just wants to win, and keep KAT and Wiggins, two guys who just want to play and maybe win? Dang. Well, now we know why he traded KG.

    Can’t wait to see Lance switch and blow in Draymond’s ear.

     
    • keen observer

      keen observer 9:50 PM on September 21, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I agree. Luke knows. He still considers Phil to be the greatest coach ever and consults with him frequently. Now would be the time to bring Phil in as Luke’s Tex Winter. I wonder if Phil and Jeanie are on good terms.

      • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

        Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 9:54 PM on September 21, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        By all accounts Phil is still enjoying Montana and has only mid to semi-strong inclinations of returning. I don’t see there being room enough in the Laker canoe for Phil to grab a paddle any larger than an Advisory role type of paddle. Magic and Rob, through Luke, are going to get som serious rope to run with. Doing OK so far.

        • keen observer

          keen observer 8:19 AM on September 22, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          The Tex role.

          • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

            Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 12:31 PM on September 22, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            That even sounds like too much, don’t see him on the bench. Cozy office down in El Segundo that he visits a couple times a week, few times a month. Something like that. I’ll be surprised if he ever does the team travel thing again.

            • LakerTom (Publisher) 12:41 PM on September 22, 2018 Permalink

              I think Phil is retired. He’s not going to try and come back or hang on like Jerry West.

      • mclyne32 (Director) 11:26 AM on September 22, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I could see this happening if Jeanie and Phil are in good terms and Phil is itching to be around the guys again. He could just hang out with Luke during practices and home games to provide wisdom.
        Then again, he could be perfectly happy in retirement.
        He has been known to love leading( in this case, being a part of) stacked teams. We are very deep, but are still a Robin away from being a true contender to the throne.

    • mclyne32 (Director) 11:39 AM on September 22, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      On a side note:
      We lose Jamie Maggie to the Clippers and Serena Winters to Portland!
      I liked them and felt they were very good at their jobs.
      I hope they got fat raises.

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 12:16 PM on September 22, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      The old school romantic wish for the Lakers to run the outdated Triangle offense is silly. The rise in the importance of the 3-point shot and need to stretch the court and spread defenses dominate modern offenses. What will always be smart, however, is the constant ball and player motion and passing from the post that was a big part of the Triangle. With LeBron playing in the post or as a center, I can see Luke using some of the basic principles of the Triangle in our half court offense. A good example is how the Nuggets use Jokic as a point center

      Frankly, the Lakers are looking to run even more than the Lakers Showtime teams, that relied heavily on a Magic Johnson dominant fast break. Just like with the Triangle, open 3-point shots have become a primary target of the transition game. The value especially of a wide open corner 3 in transition cannot be underestimated. So even though the Lakers are going to run relentlessly, they’re not reprising Showtime. They’re taking it to another level that integrates stretching the floor and shooting threes.

      It ain’t your or Jeanie Buss’ father’s game any more.

      • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

        Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 12:52 PM on September 22, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        All the triangle is are basic principles, LT. Angles, reads and passes. The type of shot generated isn’t, generally, by design but by intent. I would imagine that they empty the coaching tool box to make this work.

        • LakerTom (Publisher) 12:57 PM on September 22, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          I agree, Jamie. Angles, reads, and passes are basic components and worked then and will work now. Big difference is just the need to fill the corners and spread the floor with shooters. That’s why the principles of the Triangle or Showtime offenses still apply but need to be adjusted to account for the 3-point shot and need for spacing in the modern NBA.

          • mclyne32 (Director) 1:29 PM on September 22, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            So, why did Magic and Rob NOT try and copy the Warriors, and instead target tough minded guys who aren’t known for their high shooting percentages? They went the opposite direction in building a squad to take down the champs.
            Surrounding LeBron with one dimensional shooters didn’t work in Cleveland, and it won’t work here.

            • LakerTom (Publisher) 4:47 PM on September 22, 2018 Permalink

              The Lakers copied a lot from the Warriors, including the pace-and-space offense and switch everything defense. The focus on ball and player movement, shooting threes, pushing the ball in transition, playing a lot of small ball. These are all schemes Luke brought from Golden State.

              But Luke and the Lakers also understand that they’re not going to be a better 3-point shooting team than the Warriors so you make that up by using savvy playmaking to get your guys higher percentage shots and tough defense to force the other team’s to take lower percentage shots.

              In many ways, the Lakers are copying a lot from the Warriors and the Rockets, which makes sense because they’re the two teams they’re going to have to leap frog to get into the Finals.

            • mclyne32 (Director) 7:47 PM on September 22, 2018 Permalink

              Tom, I know you know your basketball history.
              Fast break basketball was not invented by neither Antoni nor the Warriors. Three point shooting wasn’t either. This false narrative needs to die.

      • mclyne32 (Director) 1:23 PM on September 22, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I never said that bringing in the most successful coach in history would mean that Luke would automatically run the triangle. Phil’s most valuable trait was bringing varied personalities together for a common goal.
        You need to relax with the Phil shade and realize that those of us who respect the man for what he did for us don’t want him to come in and take over. He wouldn’t even want that.
        I respect history, and those who were integral in bringing us the last five Chips. Yes, the game has changed some, but a franchise, let alone and any organization, can never have too much wisdom around- especially one that is developing young talent.

        • keen observer

          keen observer 2:26 PM on September 22, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Phil’s effectiveness as a coach went far beyond the triangle, which was simply an extension of his overall coaching philosophy.

          • LakerTom (Publisher) 4:48 PM on September 22, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            That was then, this is now. The Knicks proved that the game has already passed Phil by. Doesn’t detract from Phil’s greatness as a coach. Time just moves on and the game evolves.

            People used to crush D’Antoni for not adjusting his scheme and system while praising Phil. Until his stubborn refusal to give up the Triangle cost him his job and left a stain on his career. How ironic.

            • mclyne32 (Director) 7:43 PM on September 22, 2018 Permalink

              Can you at least admit he excelled at bringing varied personality types together in a way that most coaches couldn’t?

            • LakerTom (Publisher) 9:55 AM on September 23, 2018 Permalink

              Absolutely. Phil was a genius managing players and as a strategic coach during his time with the Bulls and Lakers. A great great coach!

          • mclyne32 (Director) 7:43 PM on September 22, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            @Keen
            Thank you

      • p ang

        p ang 11:32 PM on September 22, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Its obstinate and history re-telling to insist that the triangle and the 3 pt shoot are two distinct game plans. Just take a look where Sasha V. or Glen Rice would run on a break during their time with LA. Or a young DFish, the guy couldn’t make a layup if his life depended on it so he had to shoot 3s. Ignoring facts to fit a bias narrative is unbecoming.

        PJax himself admitted that he should have adjusted his spacing to account for the 3pt shot (Think Hoberman Ball). That’s on him not Luke. Luke would probably have been told by now by PJ himself considering how often they talk. He would have though if he had better shooters. Lakers now still don’t have those “better shooters”.

        Tex Winter was the Triangle guru not PJ. The only other guy as obsessed with it goes by the monicker Black Mamba. Can you imagine him as the special assistant coach?

        The problem here is that some fans too can’t seem to see what it can be. They think like stubborn old men and refuse to see the new and exciting variations availlable.

        Having actually played in the triangle, and as JSweet accurately points out, its all about reads, angles with willing passers.Those the team has lots of.

        And, dang, its always been Dr. Buss’ game. Winning by any means. Refusing to consider all available options is not his way, that’s more Jimmy style. Its beyond silly, its a loser’s mentality. 5 long years worth.

  • p ang

    p ang 12:25 AM on September 14, 2018 Permalink  

    Poll this:

    As composed, would this Laker team win the ECF?

     
    • Magic2Worthy

      Magic2Worthy 10:19 AM on September 14, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      what a tough poll!!!!

      I gotta see this team gel for at least 20 games before I can even begin to answer this one…..
      But I’m sure there’s lots of people who would like to see a LAL / BOS ECF!

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 10:46 AM on September 14, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I still have the Warriors, Rockets, and Celtics ahead of the Lakers. Celtics could be second best if the Rockets slip slightly. Eventually, we’re returning to recurring Lakers -- Celtics Finals.

  • p ang

    p ang 11:53 PM on August 23, 2018 Permalink  

    Silver Screen and Roll:

    “Last season, the Los Angeles Lakers finished the season just about tied with the Phoenix Suns for the second-fastest pace in the NBA, behind only the New Orleans Pelicans …

    This year, Luke Walton and his coaching staff want to play even faster…..”

    Easy enough, just get the guy who ran that Pels’ league leading pace.

     
  • p ang

    p ang 1:10 AM on August 15, 2018 Permalink  

    if GSW leads the West, Lakers should not be 4,5 or 8 to not have them till the WCF.

     
    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 7:30 AM on August 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      “To be the man you got to beat the man.”
      -Richard Flair

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 10:46 AM on August 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      But better to get a couple of playoff series in the books before meeting the man.

      • MongoSlade

        MongoSlade 11:48 AM on August 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        The pussification of America continues.

        • mclyne32 (Director) 12:11 PM on August 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Lol!
          Yeah, try and have the coaching staff tell this to the players.
          How do you think Rondo and LeBron would react???

  • p ang

    p ang 4:06 AM on August 10, 2018 Permalink  

    I know its old but, dang, you can almost see TMac crying on what could have been.

    Youtube: Tracy McGrady on almost playing for Lakers with Kobe Bryant and Shaquille O’Neal | The Jump | ESPN

     
    • Seely_Iggy (Director)

      Seely_Iggy (Director) 1:26 PM on August 10, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      That was interesting! You can see how TMac wished that it had really come about. He would have been up there with 3 championships, maybe more, if he stayed on with Kobe.

  • p ang

    p ang 5:58 PM on August 3, 2018 Permalink  

    At the 5.40 mark. Best advice LBJ ever got.

    https://

    Youtube: John Salley on Winning 4th Ring with Lakers, Thoughts on Kobe/Shaq Beef (Part 7)

    Part 7: https://goo.gl/x3V1ea

     
  • p ang

    p ang 4:26 PM on July 30, 2018 Permalink  

    LBJ got that Cavs team to the Finals. Lost to GSW. This Lakers team is much better than those Cavs. If the Lakers manage to avoid GS in the Western Playoffs (ahem.. GS lose to Rox) who’s to say the Lakers won’t win the West?

     
  • p ang

    p ang 6:18 PM on July 26, 2018 Permalink  

    Hey LT,

    In case you forgot I mentioned a while back (well, years ago) this is probably the best off season Laker blog site. Lively bunch of fanatics with diverse and intense yet respectful (most of the time anyway) points of view. Keep it up.

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 6:21 PM on July 26, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Thanks, Peter. It is Peter, isn’t it?

      • p ang

        p ang 6:23 PM on July 26, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        yup

        • LakerTom (Publisher) 6:29 PM on July 26, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          LOL. I still remember talking with you about Paris and the Musée d’Orsay

          • p ang

            p ang 6:45 PM on July 26, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            d’Orsay!

            My brother in law has this patented prank he plays on everybody. He tells friends that they should see the painting Origin of the World. To just ask the staff where it is as its in a special room. Being an unsuspecting smuck I did as he advised. The staff just kept giving me this strange look and just ignore me. Still being an innocent I just assumed they don’t speak English.

            Onward I went looking for this not to be missed painting asking anybody I thought could give me a clue. All reacting the same way. I finally found it tucked away in some room and started scandalously howling with laughter.

            It was a painting of a naked woman.

            Now the looks I got started making sense. lol.

            • LakerTom (Publisher) 6:50 PM on July 26, 2018 Permalink

              Haha. That’s a good one. Haven’t been to Europe for years. Going to have to put that on my bucket list.

              I remember now you mentioning the Origin of the World and just looked it up online. For some reason, when you mentioned that way back when, I somehow associated it with the map of Paris or the world that you could walk on. Do you remember that?

            • p ang

              p ang 6:55 PM on July 26, 2018 Permalink

              yup, remembered that. kept waiting for you to go there and hear your reaction. I can just hear you go “he got me. that smuck got me.” lol

            • LakerTom (Publisher) 7:29 PM on July 26, 2018 Permalink

              Well, you got me. I googled it and looked at the painting, which is a voyeuristic portrayal of a nude woman lying down that is almost photographic and thus a little pornographic. You could interpret the Origin of the World several ways, Eve or Lust. :-)

          • Magic Phil

            Magic Phil 9:40 AM on July 27, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Hey lads, Indeed the Origin of the World is an old prank but still very effective. And to complete le tour, a stop on Louvre to see the Sleeping Hermaphroditos. The fun part is hanging out in the room and see people’s reactions

            • LakerTom (Publisher) 10:39 AM on July 27, 2018 Permalink

              Hey, Phil, thanks for chiming in. Sleeping hermaphrodite. Who woulda known. And yes, you did make me google it. Personally, I appreciate that view better than the one from the Origin of the World. LOL.

  • p ang

    p ang 9:03 PM on July 18, 2018 Permalink  

    What if Javale McGee is the starting C and he gets 2 more rings with the Lakers, the same number of rings Shaq has? Can you just imagine the jokes flying out of the shelves.

    Talk about poetic justice.

     
    • mclyne32 (Director) 10:14 PM on July 18, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I would love it.
      Still, everyone would still know how much each contributed to those Chips.

  • p ang

    p ang 4:15 PM on July 15, 2018 Permalink  

    Svi plays more like Manu than Klay.

     
    • keen observer

      keen observer 7:46 PM on July 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Nice observation. He’s more comfortable with the ball than Klay and he has that nice little step back like Ginobili. Now, if he can only learn the karate chop across the forearm move on defense than Manu mastered ..

  • p ang

    p ang 4:52 AM on July 13, 2018 Permalink  

    After comparing Playoff Rondo to Big Game James you think Magic won’t be hinting who plays on crunch time to Luke?

    There’s an unfilled 15th slot and 5.6m, who could they be eyeing to fill that?

    You think LBJ came to the Lakers to play small ball Center? Seriously?

    Can you imagine Rondo driving and lobbing to McGee? McGee would look like a taller Clint Capela.

    The second unit might be the best the team has ever had. If things hold that would be Wagner, Kuzma, Hart, Stephenson and Rondo. Dang, where does Svi fit in?

     
    • keen observer

      keen observer 6:49 AM on July 13, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I think they are waiting to see if any acorns fall off some trees. For example, the Nets just acquired Kenneth Faried. If he is bought out, perfect solution. If nothing falls, they can always re-sign Channing Frye. Nothing wrong with that either. Or there’s still something cooking behind the scenes that we’re unaware of.

  • p ang

    p ang 7:20 PM on July 8, 2018 Permalink  

    Steve Adams, 1st round pick and Melo.

     
  • p ang

    p ang 10:31 PM on July 6, 2018 Permalink  

    Steve Ditko. RIP. Sad.

     
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