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  • p ang

    p ang 8:29 PM on May 27, 2018 Permalink  

    @ NBA4ever
    10:48 AM on May 26, 2018
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    Who is the 2nd best player in the league? Whoever you pick… imagine what LeBron could do with their team?

    Imagine LBJ in place of MJ on those Bulls team. Rings. Now imagine MJ on this Cavs team. Ain’t no way MJ carries this Cav team to the Finals.

     
    • NBA4ever

      NBA4ever 8:43 PM on May 27, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Agree…to start with he wouldn’t have had the physical strength and endurance to do EVERYTHING LeBron does.

      • AK27

        AK27 9:03 PM on May 27, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Which team/s do you think he would have lost to ? Pacers ? Raps ? Celts ?

        • NBA4ever

          NBA4ever 9:58 PM on May 27, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          We will never know but I do know MJ was surrounded with more talent than LeBron’s best teams and no star has ever carried a squad this horrible. MJ is the greatest but LeBron is inching closer considering all factors.

          • GDUBinDC

            GDUBinDC 10:09 PM on May 27, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Umm … Bron did have 2 all-stars in Kyrie and KLove when he won the chip, so it ain’t like he’s been completely alone the whole time.

            • therealhtj

              therealhtj 9:32 AM on May 28, 2018 Permalink

              Wade and Bosh and Kyrie and KLove brought at least close to what Pip and Rodman did and arguably more than Pip and Ho Grant.

              Not to take away what Lebron’s doing, but prior to this run, there’s always been that extra little something missing that MJ had. Call it a timeliness or other urgency, but Lebron shrank in the moment where MJ shined. This year, with this bunch that narrative is changing.

              If he really wanted to be more competitive, he shouldn’t have railroaded the team into the horrific contracts he made them sign to his agency’s clientele.

          • AK27

            AK27 9:28 AM on May 28, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Well, we will never know for sure, that is true…was just asking for your opinion, NBA…Lebron is def one of the best of all time but you gotta look at the competition he has faced in the playoffs this time around…it is hardly a given that MJ couldnt have beaten the Pacers/Raps/Celts with Lebron’s current supporting cast..

            • tate793

              tate793 1:04 PM on May 28, 2018 Permalink

              Then, for a lot of people, there’s still that lingering question as to whether, or not, there are PEDs involved.

            • mud

              mud 5:21 PM on May 28, 2018 Permalink

              they were, but i doubt that it’s an uncommon thing. i don’t think it tarnishes his brilliance in any way.

    • GDUBinDC

      GDUBinDC 9:06 PM on May 27, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Y’all r nuts … under today’s rules, MJ woulda dominated the league even more than he did back then.

      • AK27

        AK27 9:08 PM on May 27, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        :D

        • GDUBinDC

          GDUBinDC 9:56 PM on May 27, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Sup, AK … I’m guessin’ u’ll be pullin’ for the Dubs in that other game 7? : )

          • AK27

            AK27 10:34 PM on May 27, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            I will be pullin’ for the Dubs just like I’m pullin’ for Newt to live for another 100 yrs…

            When the Lakers aren’t competing, I usually root for a good story..a Cavs-Rockets finals would have yielded one regardless of the winner…but godamned CP3 had to get injured, G…it’s like clockwork..without him, hopes aren’t high for the outcome I prefer..I am not a Rockets fan, by any stretch, but I hate ’em a lot less than I do the Warriors.

            • GDUBinDC

              GDUBinDC 11:47 PM on May 27, 2018 Permalink

              U’ll never convince me that deep down u’re not a true diehard Dubs fan .., especially Steph. : )

            • AK27

              AK27 2:20 AM on May 28, 2018 Permalink

              Things that deep in the recesses of my mind really aren’t any of my business, G…diving in could be dangerous for you as well…I mean, I might be a serial killer waiting to be triggered and not know it :)

            • GDUBinDC

              GDUBinDC 12:44 PM on May 28, 2018 Permalink

              Yeah, u could be right … prolly not worth the risk of delving that deep into ur inner conscious. No tellin’ what we might find there. LOL

    • tate793

      tate793 9:08 PM on May 27, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      As for endurance, remember game 5 of the 97 Finals, GDUB? The “Flu” game.

      http://www.nba.com/top-nba-finals-moments-michael-jordan-flu-game-game-5-1997-finals

      • GDUBinDC

        GDUBinDC 9:59 PM on May 27, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Most definitely, tate … that was a performance for the ages.

    • NBA4ever

      NBA4ever 10:01 PM on May 27, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Give MJ the undisputed crown. What can’t be disputed anymore is that LeBron belongs on Mt. Rushmore with him along with Russell & Kareem.

    • tate793

      tate793 12:59 AM on May 28, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Remember, the CAVS beat the Celtics without All Star Kevin Love’s 17.6pts, 9.3 rebs and .415 3 pt precision. Maybe the Rockets can pull a miracle off without CP3. Maybe, he might even play.

      • tate793

        tate793 1:02 AM on May 28, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        There’s no way Kobe is not included. If someone’s gotta be excluded, I’d say Russell, because his success was largely due to playing with 4 HOFers. Then, there’s also a case to be made for Magic.

        • mclyne32 (Director) 10:43 AM on May 28, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Thank you, Tate.
          With the exception of the Shaq squads, Kobe’s bad squads were much worse than LeBron’s.

        • MongoSlade

          MongoSlade 12:08 PM on May 28, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Did Kobe ever get those bad squads even past the 2nd round?

          • tate793

            tate793 12:29 PM on May 28, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Did LeBron ever score 81 pts?
            Did LeBron ever light up MJ for 55 pts?
            Did LeBron ever score 61 pts in MSG?
            Did LeBron ever drop 65 on the Trail Blazers?
            Did LeBron ever outscore the whole opposing team through 3 qtrs?
            Did LeBron ever knock down 12 3pters in a game?

          • MongoSlade

            MongoSlade 1:20 PM on May 28, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Lol..which one of those was in the playoffs?

            • tate793

              tate793 3:03 PM on May 28, 2018 Permalink

              Did LeBron ever play 52 of 53 possible minutes in an O/T Game 7 of the CF ?

            • DJ2KB24

              DJ2KB24 4:35 PM on May 28, 2018 Permalink

              Ha, ha MS, ya should You Tube’s 5 finger Ring Count to a narly fan, ha, ha. Classic.

            • MongoSlade

              MongoSlade 5:01 PM on May 28, 2018 Permalink

              And that gets back to the original discussion of supporting cast.

          • DJ2KB24

            DJ2KB24 1:59 PM on May 28, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Tore his achilles getting one bad squad to the PO’s.

      • AK27

        AK27 2:10 AM on May 28, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        That is true and I really hope the Rockets win Game 7, Tate…my low expectations stem from the fact that , while the Cavs did win without Love, the Warriors are better than the Celtics and , if CP3 is out & the rest of the team plays like they did in Game 6, I don’t trust Harden as much to bring ’em home like Lebron ( or Kobe )…perhaps because of his awful performance in an elimination game against the Spurs last yr…we’ll see, he’s certainly capable of putting the team on his back..

      • MongoSlade

        MongoSlade 3:01 AM on May 28, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Folks ain’t really on here trying to say Kyrie & Love are equal to Pip & Rodman…are they?

        • mclyne32 (Director) 10:51 AM on May 28, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          They aren’t, but when LeQueen won his last chip, Kyrie was unstoppable.

          • GDUBinDC

            GDUBinDC 12:49 PM on May 28, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Yup, and he, not Bron, took AND made the game-winning 3 in the Cavs only chip. IJS

            • MongoSlade

              MongoSlade 1:21 PM on May 28, 2018 Permalink

              Who made the game-saving block on Iggy?

            • DJ2KB24

              DJ2KB24 2:01 PM on May 28, 2018 Permalink

              MS gotcha there on the LBJ block, lol! : )

            • GDUBinDC

              GDUBinDC 7:18 PM on May 28, 2018 Permalink

              But I’m talkin’ about TAKING AND MAKING the game-winning shot … betcha MJ probably and definitely Kobe woulda taken that shot in that same situation. Not sure Bron wanted to take that shot under THAT kinda pressure. That’s all I’m sayin’. Like therealhtj had mentioned earlier, Bron has shrunk in more than a few of those ‘moments’ compared to MJ or Mamba.

        • MongoSlade

          MongoSlade 12:07 PM on May 28, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Not on the defensive end…that’s where Pip & Rodman (and even Wade & Bosh to a lesser extent) were sooo much better

    • tate793

      tate793 3:59 AM on May 28, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Amit, I think the Rockets can use Capela and put Draymond and/or Durant in foul trouble. If Harden, Gordon and Ariza are knocking down 3s they will make a game of it.

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 9:04 AM on May 28, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      LeBron is unbelievable. The worst supporting cast to ever make the Finals. Kudos to LeBron. It’s an argument that can never be resolved but LBJ is making a strong case that he is the GOAT but is it really a strong case considering whom he beat. The Pacers, Raptors, and then undermanned Celtics?

      Of course, beating a team without its two superstars doesn’t really qualify as a world shaking event everyone is making it out to be. The truth will be reveled when he loses to whichever team comes out of the West. I’ll give him one miracle game in Cleveland before he falls in five games.

      That will be the series that tells LeBron that he has to stay in the East if he wants a chance to win. Morey may not want to tear up the Rockets after their great effort against the Dubs. 76ers aren’t going to want to take the ball out of Simmons hands.

      Which leaves the Cavs. Time for LeBron to be a man and sign his supermax team and stop being such a freakin’ mercenary who thinks the entire league revolves around him. I want to root for a team. Not some quasi-basketball god who thinks he is bigger than any franchise.

    • mud

      mud 12:40 PM on May 28, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

    • Michael H (Editor)

      Michael H (Editor) 12:46 PM on May 28, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      For the greatest individual efforts didn’t didn’t end in a championship. For me carrying the Lakers to the playoffs in 2006 and 2007 was the greatest feat of all time. The Lakers started Smush, Kwame, Luke and Lamar. The biggest heartbreak for me was game 6 2006. Lakers up 3-2 when Nash throws up a total brick and it bounces out to Thomas who hits a 3 to send the game to over time. If Steve does what he normally did and make the shot we win. If it rolls around the rim and falls off we win. It took a terrible shot to beat us.

      But as big as Kobe was in 2006 he was even bigger in 2007. The Lakers were injury riddled that year. Kobe put the team on his back and averaged 40 for March. Including a 4 game stretch of 65, 60, and two 50 point games. His 50 plus streak ended when he only had 43 the next game. I remember being ticket off at him because he cost us a lottery pick LOL. The sad thing for me is because we were not a good team he didn’t win the MVP either year when he was clearly the best in the world.

    • tate793

      tate793 12:58 PM on May 28, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      And the FO didn’t surround him with better playets.

  • p ang

    p ang 10:43 PM on May 26, 2018 Permalink  

    Dang, of all LT’s proposed Cs I keep wondering when he’ll bring up Robert Upshaw. Athletic, shotblocker and same bad attitude and drug related offense but way cheaper. lol.

     
  • p ang

    p ang 7:10 PM on May 20, 2018 Permalink  

    and then Steph Curry decided to play ….

     
    • Michael H (Editor)

      Michael H (Editor) 7:18 PM on May 20, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I wonder if we can get at least one good conference final game.

      • LakerTom (Publisher) 7:29 PM on May 20, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I though tonight’s game was a great game. Steph being Steph. Warriors being Warriors. Rockets being Rockets.

        • NBA4ever

          NBA4ever 8:31 AM on May 21, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Man we all have our other teams we root for like Sean in Toronto and Gdub in DC, but if you thought that was a great game then you REALLY like the Warriors. The first few years I was rooting for them being from the Bay, but now I’m only rooting for great competition and that was NOT a good game.

          • Magicman (Editor)

            Magicman (Editor) 10:02 AM on May 21, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Yup…when their not playing the L’s, I root for the Raps.

            Was an awful game, I’m like most smart people watching this sport, If my team is out of the competition, then I just root for good competition.

            Last night was good competition on one side and terrible competition on the other.

            Makes for a bad game.

            Realistically, taking 3/4 away from Warriors ain’t happening, now with HCA gone.

            • mud

              mud 10:23 AM on May 21, 2018 Permalink

              my IQ was 165 in kindergarten. i want them all crippled.

              smart people want the opponents to fail. ALL of them. S-mart. the place to get a chainsaw and shotgun and send the demons summoned by the Necronomicon back to Hell where they belong.

    • GDUBinDC

      GDUBinDC 8:55 PM on May 20, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      He had to shutup his doubters … shame on ’em all. : )

      • p ang

        p ang 9:16 PM on May 20, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I think Steph just got tired of the Rockets switching so he guards Harden and decides he’s had enough. Time to remind the Rockets just who he is: the best shooter the game has ever seen.

        Guard this, bang!

    • tate793

      tate793 1:08 AM on May 21, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Naw, Rockets just had an off shooting night. Don’t have a dog in this fight, my disdain for Pechulia and Green is equal to that for Harden and D’Antoni.

      • NBA4ever

        NBA4ever 8:32 AM on May 21, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I can’t stand Green either and don’t have much respect for Durant ever since he cowardly joined the Warriors and because he is so thin skinned. But I can’t stand Harden or D’Antoni as well so I’m just rooting for great games which we haven’t seen yet.

        • Magicman (Editor)

          Magicman (Editor) 10:06 AM on May 21, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          I hear ya, but on the Court he’s got the Mamba Mentality.

          Yup has some of the biggest Rabbit Ears I’ve ever seen.

          He can talk about being like Bird and Kobe…on the Court…off the Court Larry and Kobe gave zero fucks about how the World perceived them.

          • mud

            mud 10:24 AM on May 21, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Mamba Mentality?
            he wishes. he’s been trying to copy that since the Olympics.

            • LakerTom (Publisher) 10:32 AM on May 21, 2018 Permalink

              Good chance Green will end up winning more rings than Mamba.
              He is the heart and soul of one of the best NBA teams ever.

            • GDUBinDC

              GDUBinDC 2:58 PM on May 21, 2018 Permalink

              Yup, he was fierce on the boards last game.

            • tate793

              tate793 6:27 PM on May 21, 2018 Permalink

              Who? Green or Durant? I dislike both and have posted my reasons.

              And, no, Tom, Green won’t end up with more rings than Kobe. He’s a dirty player and a $hithead.

              And, BTW, Tom, Boston’s Mookie Betts and JD Martinez are better than the Yankee’s Aaron Judge and Giancarlo Stanton. So, there!

            • AK27

              AK27 6:52 PM on May 21, 2018 Permalink

              Gotta agree on Green, Tate…although the league isn’t the strongest it’s been..so, he may or may not end up with more rings than Kobe…but what would it mean if he does ? sure wouldn’t make him a better player…

              I don’t like KD either but I haven’t read your reasons for the same

            • tate793

              tate793 10:49 AM on May 22, 2018 Permalink

              Amit, my reasons for not liking KD is primarily due to the short-changing he did to the OKC fans by jumping ship to GS and not being man enough to bloom where he was planted. Once he got to GS he turned into a dic*head. There’s too much cockiness in GS.

            • NBA4ever

              NBA4ever 10:51 AM on May 22, 2018 Permalink

              “And, BTW, Tom, Boston’s Mookie Betts and JD Martinez are better than the Yankee’s Aaron Judge and Giancarlo Stanton. So, there!”

              That made me lol :)

            • Magicman (Editor)

              Magicman (Editor) 1:43 PM on May 22, 2018 Permalink

              @NBA

              Yankees are in a Playoff push.

              Tate’s Dodgers do more blowing this year, than a Mexican Whorehouse.

  • p ang

    p ang 1:37 AM on May 20, 2018 Permalink  

    Well now Cavs know what it takes to beat the Celtics:

    Sit Rodney Hood and play Larry Nance, Jr!

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 12:32 PM on May 20, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      While they shot great from 3, I thought it was getting in the faces of every Celtics player that made the difference. Same game plan as the Rockets on defense. Disrupt the Celtics and Warriors offenses.

  • p ang

    p ang 4:31 PM on May 17, 2018 Permalink  

    Dang. if OKC can have a makeover wouldn’t they keep Harden and Durant and trade Westbrook instead?

     
  • p ang

    p ang 2:35 AM on May 16, 2018 Permalink  

    Boogie and Rajon are coming!

     
    • keen observer

      keen observer 9:40 AM on May 16, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      That’s just dandy. Now there are a coupla character guys who I’m sure Magic can’t wait to jump all over! They were such winners together in Cow Town, too!

  • p ang

    p ang 5:03 PM on May 15, 2018 Permalink  

    I think BI can guard KD better than anybody on the Rockets’ roster.

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 5:24 PM on May 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I think you could be right. It’s the length and ability to prevent KD from shooting right over him.

      • p ang

        p ang 6:44 PM on May 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Overall the Lakers matchup well vs. GSW. Just need time to mature.

        Zo v. Klay, KCP on Steph, Ju v. Draymond, Hart on Iggy.

        Now add any two: Rondo, PG, Brook, Capela or Boogie. I believe they can compete.

        • LakerTom (Publisher) 6:52 PM on May 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Problem is they’re not going to win until the kids take their games to the next level, which is going to take 2 or 3 years at best. But I think we all are fine with that. We already have five young players each of whom is capable of being THAT guy in any game. They’re going to be special in 5 years. We’re at the stage the Warriors were before they went out and got Bogut, Iggy, and Shaun. That’s what we need to do this summer. Find our versions of Bogut, Iggy, and Shaun.

          • p ang

            p ang 5:34 AM on May 16, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            I think it happened already. They came earlier than expected. KCP and Brook. Only the kids weren’t ready yet. They will next season.

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 6:54 PM on May 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      With KD it’s not just the length.. it’s also the separation he gets.
      Nobody’s blocking his Dirk-style one legged fadeaway.

      • LakerTom (Publisher) 7:12 PM on May 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        True but the key is having a player with the length and athleticism to challenge the shot every time. KD’s iso-ball game is so much quicker and deadlier than Harden’s or CP3’s. Or LeBron’s.

      • MongoSlade

        MongoSlade 7:20 PM on May 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I’m not sure anybody can challenge that shot when he’s cookin.
        And if you get too close he’ll put in on the floor and go around you.
        He’s as close to unguardable as anybody in the league.

    • tate793

      tate793 1:17 AM on May 16, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Giannis.

      • GDUBinDC

        GDUBinDC 1:44 AM on May 16, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        If he could develop a consistent midrange game, a la KD, he’d almost be right there.

      • p ang

        p ang 5:30 AM on May 16, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        He’s in the Rockets’ roster?

  • p ang

    p ang 6:47 AM on May 13, 2018 Permalink  

    Its that time of year.

    Doable:

    Retain Brook, KCP, Randle, Frye

    Bring in Luc Mbah a Moute, Rajon Rondo

     
    • keen observer

      keen observer 6:56 AM on May 13, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Rondo duplicates what Lonzo does and he’s an as$hole. I’d rather have IT if he’s healthy because he’s a solid guy who brings a different wrinkle to the court. Mbah A Moute is a nice, tough role player who has always been an underrated player in this league IMO. Yes, that is doable, but the front office can do better than that. The 2014 rookie class has many RFAs who are ready to come into their own and I think targeting one who has not reached his potential is smarter than trying to sign a “max” guy.

      • p ang

        p ang 7:20 AM on May 13, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        IT? nah. the guy can score but so can the guy he’s guarding. net zero. cost a lot more than Rondo. and he’s an as$hole too, just ask the Cavs.

        • keen observer

          keen observer 7:28 AM on May 13, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          I don’t think he’s an as$hole. He’s just a competitor at the highest level. You now, the kind of as$hole like Kobe was. If he’s healthy, he’s the instant offense off the bench that given a full 82 with the team could help elevate us into the playoffs like he did with the Celtics. I see him as low risk, high reward. What do you think about guys like Rodney Hood, Tyreke Evans, Will Barton, Wayne Ellington or Avery Bradley as possibilities?

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 7:36 AM on May 13, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Yall really wanna be the Blazers/Bullets/Raptors huh?

      • p ang

        p ang 7:41 AM on May 13, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        They don’t have the developing talent the Lakers have. Ingram, Lonzo, Ju, Hart and Kuzma. 2 years down the line they should be better than those teams.

      • keen observer

        keen observer 7:54 AM on May 13, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        No, but you still have another year of growth before they come. You have to think steps ahead, Mongo. Watch Jerry West parlay a guy like Tobias Harris into something much better. Look what Danny Ainge with accumulated assets and what Bob Myers did with accumulated assets. If Magic doesn’t get a quick commitment from PG, he should move on. You are dreaming if you think they will build something instantly because that is not how these players think. The Lakers were NOT a playoff team last season, so why the hell would the mindset of a max FA player who is thirsty for bling change? It won’t. Paul George would rather take his chances with Russell Westbrook or go to Philly or somewhere else where he can think about competing for a championship than play in front of his parents. I hope Magic doesn’t share the need for immediate gratification because it’s not happening overnight.

      • MongoSlade

        MongoSlade 8:06 AM on May 13, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        With those kinda roster moves we’ll be a 4 seed for the foreseeable future. It’s not about “instant gratification”..nobody’s expecting a title next year. But we’re in a unique position with the young talent AND salary cap position to add 1 or 2 top level players without flushing the future…we’d be foolish to squander that opportunity on a buncha B-level dudes. I know Earv & Rob will swing for the fences and will only settle for this kinda minor league stuff if things don’t work out.

        • p ang

          p ang 8:10 AM on May 13, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          if those moves get the Lakers to 4th seed next year, I’d take it.

          year after, with Klay Thompson, Kawhi, KD as FAs, who knows what happens.

          • mclyne32 (Director) 9:52 AM on May 13, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            The fascination with next summer makes zero sense when Klay has already stated multiple times that he will take less to stay, Kawhi will already be inbedded with a good team and KD? Really? I’m not even going to address that possibility.

          • keen observer

            keen observer 11:39 AM on May 13, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            You’re missing the point, Mongo. If you lock players into contracts, they become tradable assets. Sure, if it’s a Deng or Mozgov type player/contract, you’re screwed, but if the deals are reasonable and a guy like, hypothetically, Jabari Parker blossoms, there’s more in the war chest. Otherwise, it’s just empty cap space. Of course, that cap space is valuable for teams who might look to blow up their rosters, so there’s that, but look what Jerry West did to get rid of Blake Griffin and what they did to trade Chris Paul. Teams want guys who can play over emptiness on balance. Signing “max” free agents is a long shot and I’ll eat all the crow you can serve me if the Lakers sign ONE of those guys this summer.

            • MongoSlade

              MongoSlade 1:17 PM on May 13, 2018 Permalink

              Soooo….instead of actually signing Max guys you wanna sign some B-level dudes in the hopes that somebody will accept them in a trade for….Max guys.

              Got it.

              lol

            • p ang

              p ang 8:03 PM on May 13, 2018 Permalink

              signing max guys has always been the agenda but its hopeful at best. just getting the “just in case” or doable if it doesn’t happen.

            • keen observer

              keen observer 7:32 AM on May 14, 2018 Permalink

              Look what the Celtics did since 2015 with their already improving roster of “B” guys. Only Marcus Smart remains from that team. Cap space is air. “B” guys, like Tobias Harris, for example, are attractive trade pieces. Sit still with expiring air or give someone a real player in a deal without destroying the core.

            • MongoSlade

              MongoSlade 8:09 AM on May 14, 2018 Permalink

              What the Celtics did was go all in to try to land KD (which he’s said himself was very close) and signed Al Horford and Gordon Hayward…

            • keen observer

              keen observer 10:49 AM on May 14, 2018 Permalink

              Really, Mongo? That’s it? Look what they did in the summer of 2015 THAT LED TO that. B-Level tradeable guys.

              Read this:

              https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/BOS/2016_transactions.html

        • MongoSlade

          MongoSlade 8:18 AM on May 13, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Those moves get us to the 4th seed for multiple years…that’s the problem

          • mud

            mud 12:32 PM on May 13, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            that in itself is not a problem.

            it’s what happens next, after that that is key. there is no foresight powerful enough to know exactly what will happen. right now, fourth seed looks pretty good.

            • keen observer

              keen observer 7:40 AM on May 14, 2018 Permalink

              Much like the 76ers now and the Warriors as they were growing, we have to hope that our superstars evolve from this core group of young players. Based on their growth last season, there is every reason to believe that Ingram, Lonzo, Kuzma and Randle have tremendous upside. I hope that they stay and grow together. If they reach their perceived potential, who knows. I think that Magic should bank on that and sign some other solid, young players to long term deals in the meantime because he will get good value this summer if he does. Max guys ain’t coming, so that is the best Plan B. If a max free agent in the future wants to force his way on to the team, it will be easy enough to find deals to clear space.

    • GDUBinDC

      GDUBinDC 3:58 PM on May 13, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      C’mon guys, we all know they’re gonna go hard after the top tier freebies … so what’s the problem?

      They land one, great … more than one, fantastic.

      If not, that’s fine, too … at least with me it is.

      • keen observer

        keen observer 10:50 AM on May 14, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Of course they will, but they won’t land any YET. If they make the playoffs next season, perhaps a Horford level dude

  • p ang

    p ang 7:59 PM on May 9, 2018 Permalink  

    Good game

    Somebody has got to tell the 76ers to stop tanking. lol.

     
  • p ang

    p ang 7:11 PM on May 8, 2018 Permalink  

    CP3!

     
    • GDUBinDC

      GDUBinDC 7:12 PM on May 8, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      PJ! : )

    • tate793

      tate793 7:13 PM on May 8, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Jazz gave it a good effort. Realistically, the Rockets are better suited to dethroning GS.

      • GDUBinDC

        GDUBinDC 7:28 PM on May 8, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Yup, it’s the matchup I think most bball fans have been anticipating all season. Let’s hope that series lives up to alotta peeps expectations.

    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 7:34 PM on May 8, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Finally made it…to the western conference Finals, we’ll see how they fare against the defense of Golden State and let us not forget that Rubio went down early whilst the Warriors are at something approaching full strength. Big time coming out party for Donovan Mitchell, who is my pick for RotY. Simmons was with his team and benefited from NBA coaching and training, Mitchell balled hard against the best and shined when Rubio went down.

      Simmons is a warning flag to our own Lonzo Ball: hit those free throws, brother. NBA defenses can take a non-shooting guard out of his game in the playoffs with little to no effort. SImmons has basically been rendered moot and TJ “little big man” McConnell is the release valve for their offense right now. Lonzo struggles to finish around the rim, has no mid range game and struggled with the NBA 3 point line. Those are all death to your game in the playoffs. Hope he’s watching and working on those things this summer. It’ll just make everything about his game so very much better.

      • GDUBinDC

        GDUBinDC 7:43 PM on May 8, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Couldn’t agree more, JS.

        • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

          Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 9:50 PM on May 8, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Makes me really respect Rondo to a Ron Burgundy/Wes Mantooth kind of level.

          Rondo can hit the wide opem, let me get my feet set, OK, still getting them set, shoes are on OK, alright I’m letting her fly. For reals this time! (shoots)

          But he’s got to be respected because he’s so smart with the rock. It’s the difference between having court vision and seeing how the play can be directed in a split second. I think Lonzo has that ability but if he can develop any kind of reliable offense, no matter where it comes from on the basketball court, it will open that skill up so very much more.

          I always wondered if Rondo would improve his jumper the way Rubio has…eventually. Took him more than couple years to make it work but he did it. Rondo always seemed content never to score, or as a very last resort. I think Lonzo needs to be more like Rubio, balance scoring and passing with the already solid defense. Looking forward to seeing him in camp as I’m operating under the assumption he’ll barely play in summer league, if at all. Bryant and whomever doesn’t go to play overseas or signs elsewhere a la David Nwaba last year.

          • tate793

            tate793 10:00 PM on May 8, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            On the other hand, Rondo’s got the hardware and Rubio doesn’t.

            • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

              Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 10:24 PM on May 8, 2018 Permalink

              Totally, Rondo’s a better defender and they’re equal in the passing game. Rubio never had the teammates Rondo had and we saw how well he handles being asked to play outside his comfort zone in Dallas which kind of torpedoed his money-making power that off-season.

              I would take Rondo over Rubio almost any day of the week, or any player who was a significant part of a team that went all the way. Maurice ‘Buckets’ Speights does not qualify, neither will the Swaggster. Iguodala, Bogut, Rondo, players of that ilk. Not THE man but the man who made the MAN look good. I do think Rubio has really improved his jump shot, too.

              Regardless, both players are done for the year. Rondo will be a free agent…wonder if he ends up mentoring Lonzo after all…

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 8:02 PM on May 8, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Utah never really had a chance in this series even if Rubio was healthy. OKC had alotta flaws but this wasn’t OKC. And the Rockets haven’t even played all that well in the first 2 rounds…they gotta pick it up to stand a chance against GSW.

      • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

        Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 9:42 PM on May 8, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Harden has looked like he just woke up in at least 2 of the games in this series alone. Wonder if he’s got a nagging injury or if he’s saving himself for the big dance.

        I think with Rubio they win their home games. Plus defender, gets Gobert easy shots which fires up his D. Still think the Rockets take it in 7, maybe even 6 but it would have taken something magical for Utah to bump the Rockets out. Exum and Rubio going down would be the opposite of that.

  • p ang

    p ang 7:14 AM on May 7, 2018 Permalink  

    Funny how the GSW with a 6’8″ SG and a 7′ SF is considered playing small ball.

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 7:39 AM on May 7, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      That’s because “small ball” is a misnomer for “skilled ball,” which is when you focus on putting 5 guys on the floor who can all switch on defense and shoot and play make on offense.

      The contradiction in the term “small ball” is that you want as much size and length as possible at every position, which is why a 6-8 SG and 7-0 SF are perfect solutions.

      And why the Lakers are trying to accomplish the same thing.

  • p ang

    p ang 4:36 PM on May 6, 2018 Permalink  

    Pelicans just about ready to make that call to Paul George.

     
    • DJ2KB24

      DJ2KB24 5:31 PM on May 6, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Better not yet, tampering, lol!

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 7:11 PM on May 6, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Lol. Why call when you don’t have any money to spend? Pels are capped out.

    • therealhtj

      therealhtj 10:43 PM on May 6, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      They’d have more luck calling Rob. S&T Boogie for Randle + eat Deng’s deal.

      • NBA4ever

        NBA4ever 9:42 AM on May 7, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        As much as I love Randle, this would be a win win for both teams.

        • therealhtj

          therealhtj 1:05 PM on May 7, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Pels can’t really get any better this summer without resigning Boogie, and he likely won’t want to stay without a 5 year max. Plus the jury’s out on whether he and Brow are really the best combo for that squad, where a bruising PF who can guard the 3 along with a floor spacer like Mirotic may prove a better lineup. They can of course stretch Deng too, but they really don’t have cap space to sign anyone, with or without DMC, so may as well get something in the process.

          Problem is Boogie and Julius would have to agree too all this. Lot of moving parts, and whenever that’s the case, these things rarely come to fruition.

          • mud

            mud 1:10 PM on May 7, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            i would rather have Julius.
            Boogie has always had the ability, but he has never been a difference maker. the proof of this statement is in the thing i like to point out, that his teams always do just as well without him, as they ever did with him. for a team to maintain without a star temporarily is normal and proves nothing, but both the Kings and Pels were just as good with him as without him over long periods of time.

            • therealhtj

              therealhtj 1:31 PM on May 7, 2018 Permalink

              A lot of Julius fans out there, but the truth is if he was so great they’d have maxed him out the way PG and DMC both were. This FO would cut ties with him without batting an eyelash if two genuinely max FA’s were ready to sign.

            • mud

              mud 2:07 PM on May 7, 2018 Permalink

              you are correct about that. the bottom line is improving the team. i’m just not convinced that the Lakers are better off with DMC over JR, in the long run.

            • keen observer

              keen observer 7:53 PM on May 7, 2018 Permalink

              “A lot of Julius fans out there, but the truth is if he was so great they’d have maxed him out the way PG and DMC both were.”

              Stupid comment.

  • p ang

    p ang 7:06 AM on April 28, 2018 Permalink  

    Is Russell Westbrook the new Charles Barkley?

    Extremely gifted player twice surrounded by HoFrs and somehow can’t win a chip.

    Barkley in Philly with Moses Malone, Dr. J, Maurice Cheeks, Bobby Jones then in Houston with Olajuwan, Scotty Pippen.

    Russell with Harden, Durant, Ibaka then now with the OK3.

     
    • NBA4ever

      NBA4ever 10:57 AM on April 28, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Carmello is the most overrated player of this generation and he’s done.

      LeBron and Russ could pick from both teams excluding each other and still couldn’t get pass the 2nd round. Okc and Cavs are HORRIBLE teams.

      • NBA4ever

        NBA4ever 11:14 AM on April 28, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        When we traded Clarkson and Nance I was stoked. It was a win win for the Lakers and Julius. Traded the right money (Clarkson) and opened the door for Ju to flourish just as trading Monte Ellis did for Curry.

        Clarkson was classic case of guy putting up numbers on a young bad team (Eric Bledsoe) and Nance was classic overrated player because he has exciting hops (Shannon Brown).

      • therealhtj

        therealhtj 12:24 PM on April 28, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Carmelo ain’t done cashing checks and that seems like all he cared about in the first place. For once Jimmy and Mitch succeeded by failure.

  • p ang

    p ang 12:51 AM on April 27, 2018 Permalink  

    What if:

    MJ never took a baseball break and won 8 straight, would Olajuwan still be thought of as highly?

    Lakers kept Horry instead of Malone, would they have won a ring?

    Luol Deng decides to retire and instead be the most expensive asst coach of the Lakers?

     
    • keen observer

      keen observer 11:27 AM on April 27, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      1) There’s no guarantee that would have happened and the rest probably did MJ some good.

      2) Karl Malone had a great season with the Lakers. The Glove was more the problem as the season wore on, not The Mailman. The 2004 Pistons were much better than people gave them credit for and would have beaten those Lakers at full strength even if you replaced Malone with Horry.

      3) Even though it isn’t written in the rules, the NBA could intervene and stop that arrangement, just like they would likely nix an extend, waive and stretch attempt as Eric Pincus explained.

      http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2743657-to-make-room-for-2-stars-lakers-should-give-luol-deng-an-extension-seriously

      “The league’s General Prohibition on Circumvention prohibits any transaction that’s intended to defeat or circumvent the CBA’s intent. ..”

    • Michael H (Editor)

      Michael H (Editor) 1:57 PM on April 27, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      There is that conspiracy therory that it was a suspension for gambling and not a break to play baseball. Probably will never know.

      • NBA4ever

        NBA4ever 3:09 PM on April 27, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        This is one conspiracy that I think makes perfect sense. The most driven ego-maniac narcissistic prick ever decided to just quit basketball for a year and a half in his prime?

  • p ang

    p ang 10:05 PM on April 23, 2018 Permalink  

    Guess the P in Playoff P is short for Pfffffttt.

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 9:10 AM on April 24, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      PG played a lot better than his two fellow superstars. Like LeBron, Westbrook is a player I’ve always thought could be great on the Lakers but also worried about how you build a team around him. Like LBJ, there’s just no oxygen left on the court for Robins or sidekicks. Kyrie found that out with LeBron and now PG is finding it out with Westbrook. We had Kobe, better than both of them. Last thing I want to do is turn over this team to a ball dominant superstar who prefers to play hero ball.

      • mud

        mud 4:54 PM on April 24, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        i’d rather have Jonathan E than some corporate and anonymous player…

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