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  • p ang

    p ang 12:58 AM on August 2, 2019 Permalink  

    David Griffin has a 90+wins and 110+losses in the EAST without LBJ so how did he earn a good to great GM reputation? Didn’t he just trade for 3 oft injured players and non lottery draft picks for a top 5 player his own coach wouldn’t trade for Beyonce?

    If you’re the Pels and he says the pressure and intrigue involved in winning a ring is not worth it, is this the GM you really wanted?

    Good he is not here. As Kuz puts it: not everybody is cut out to be a Laker

     
    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 11:15 AM on August 2, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Yup. Read how he was ‘miserable’ building around LeBron and while I have no doubt that the pressure that comes with the level of talent (and the subsequent expectations that entails) is enormous, that’s also the job. It’s why Jerry left the Lakers: too much self-inflicted pressure. It’s why the coaches feel like they’re going through a one-year experiment every season. The players rule in the modern NBA. Which I’m fine with: I don’t pay to see what the coach is wearing or tune in to hear how hard the GM worked. Could there be some tweaks to even the playing field a bit? I’m sure there are and that the NBA will explore them. But for now the players have the ability to determine their own futures, to a large degree, and it makes the GM job harder. Don’t take it if you don’t want it..

      Everyone wants to begrudge AD and LBJ for hooking up while conveniently forgetting Kawhi has forced himself off of one team he was under contract with and then just a year later encouraged another player under contract with another team (for multiple yers) to bail. Not sure how we’re the villains of the NBA at this point…but I also don’t give a flying fig.

      Let them come, for you shall know me by the trail of the dead.

  • p ang

    p ang 2:06 AM on July 30, 2019 Permalink  

    Random thoughts on a long long season break

    Clippers taking over LA is as likely as the Mets taking over the Yankees in New York. The Mets won it all before, had their day in the sun and then quietly went back to being the other NY team.

    For all the accolades laid down on Jerry West feet (well deserved) I have one question: Did he ever build a team that won a ring without Dr. Buss? Dr. Buss did without him (Kobe/Pau)

    James Dolan, Paul Allen and Mark Cuban are all richer than Dr. B and all outspent Dr. B. Only Cuban go lucky (once!) so go ahead, Ballmer, outspend Jeanie. Lets see what it amounts to.

    PG is 0 for 10(?) on to win baskets, Kawhi is a lucky 4 bouncer. So who’s clutch in that team? Melo is the most clutch statistically, even better than Kobe. Maybe they should get him just for the last shot.

    The old story on George Mikan blocking his ballhog teammate’s shot because he wouldn’t pass him the ball might be what happens between Harden and Westbrook.

    If the Nets win 53+ you think Kyrie will welcome KD to HIS team next year?

    I’d never count out a team with a healthy Steph Curry, Klay, Draymond . And WCS.

     
    • keen observer

      keen observer 8:25 AM on July 30, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      1) Well put.

      2) Try the Golden State Warriors.

      3) Clay Bennett, for that matter.

      4) Truthfully, the thought of adding Melo is intriguing for “load management” purposes, but pass.

      5) Think Walt “Clyde” Frazier and Earl “The Pearl” Monroe.

      6) With open arms!

      7) Could not agree with you more. And D’Angelo Russell or the guy they trade him for (Kevin Love?).

  • p ang

    p ang 4:06 AM on July 29, 2019 Permalink  

    It should be noted that the guys who are definitely going to be in the short rotation or in the minutes of a tied game are all clutch.

    1. Quinn Cook: see GSW last two finals.
    2. Danny Green: see body of work.
    3. Avery Bradley: see Celtics
    4. Kyle Kuzma: remember when he was the only guy who wanted to take that Foulshot?
    5. Rajon Rondo: see last minutes of Finals game 7 LA v. Boston.
    6. AD: see body of work.
    7. LBJ: enough said.

    And should be but doubt still lingers as in: Can they make the winning foul shot in a game 7? I’m a spoiled Kobe fan. He’d make it even if he 0-15 during the game.

    8. Boogie Cousins
    9. Alex Caruso
    10. Troy Daniels.

     
  • p ang

    p ang 10:40 PM on July 23, 2019 Permalink  

    Is this guy funnier than Shaq or what?

    https://twitter.com/JaredDudley619/status/1153727865197715456

     
  • p ang

    p ang 12:41 AM on July 22, 2019 Permalink  

    It amazes me just how much people disrespect Cousins.

    His injuries are all healed, has lost weight and getting his wind back. Pointing to his lost of athleticism as the primary reason for this maybe reasonable but only if you disregard the fact that the guy is also very skilled. He may have lost his hops (which wasn’t much anyway) and his explosiveness (unproven and mostly assumed) making him, what, just a top 5 C instead of the best?

    Just compare the Gasol brothers to him at their prime. Boogie is just as skilled, stronger, still quicker and better at 3s.

     
    • NBA4ever

      NBA4ever 9:20 AM on July 22, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Agree 100%

    • keen observer

      keen observer 10:17 AM on July 22, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Given his size and the fact that he sustained a serious quad injury during the playoffs last season, I hope that Coach Vogel limits his minutes to begin the season and eases him back. If we were to compare him to another big who suffered an Achilles injury, I think the best comparison would be Elton Brand. He was only 28 when it happened, never came close to returning to form, took two full seasons before he could play significant minutes and had 3 somewhat decent seasons between the ages of 30-32, normally prime years for a big. I wouldn’t get too excited about Boogie.

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 11:17 AM on July 22, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I think there are good reasons to be optimistic as well as cautious regarding expectations for Boogie. Looks great standing there but need to see him on the court and showing some lift and stroke.

      On the optimistic side, Boogie looks to have lost a lot of weight, posted pretty impressive numbers for Golden State last year, and revamped his game alongside Anthony Davis before the injury to be more of a modern stretch five than a traditional center. Before the Achilles in January 2018, Boogie was on pace to shoot over five hundred threes at 35.4%, which would have made him the most prolific 7-foot three-point shooter in history. He was on pace to be Brook Lopez before Brook Lopez set the record with 512 attempts last year with the Bucks.

      On the cautious side, Boogie had zero lift in the playoffs after injuring the quad and most players don’t approach their old selves until at least two years after their torn Achilles. Boogie also only shot 27% from deep last season with the Warriors and his fit alongside AD is heavily weighted by his ability to spread the floor and stretch the defense. I think Vogel needs to see him get healthy before putting him in the starting lineup and his best fit might still ultimately be taking advantage and feasting on second string centers off the bench to start the season. Bottom line, we need defense in the starting lineup and right now that’s more likely to be JaVale McGee.

      The other concern is why was no other team willing to even give Boogie the room exception? That’s a little concerning to me. There are definitely some dumb GM’s out there but for everybody to pass, you have to wonder why. AD and Rondo obviously wanted him on the roster. Personally, I love the signing and have high hopes that Boogie could do for the Lakers offense what Brook did for the Bucks. A prolific stretch five who creates room for LeBron and AD to be unstoppable. The only bummer about Boogie is also that we don’t have his Bird rights so if he explodes, the most we could pay him would be the $9.8 million taxpayer MLE. I would bring him along slowly for his own good and the Lakers own good. Start him off the bench and start to fit him alongside LeBron and AD once they get rolling.

      • keen observer

        keen observer 11:32 AM on July 22, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Most players never return to their old selves after an Achilles injury.

        • LakerTom (Publisher) 11:37 AM on July 22, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          True but 80% of the old Boogie could be perfect for the Lakers because his best value alongside LeBron and AD would be his ability to become a high volume 36% three-point shooter like Brook Lopez. Achilles ain’t going to hurt his shot. And it might be that he would not get huge offers and be willing to re-sign for $10 million with the Lakers to win rings starting alongside LeBron and AD.

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 11:52 AM on July 22, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      The history of the Achilles injury has told us that it usually leads to either re-injury or other associated injuries. DMC looked great and was playing some good ball before he hurt the quad at the beginning of the playoffs. And that will always be the concern.

      • LakerTom (Publisher) 12:19 PM on July 22, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        The Achilles injury will hopefully not affect this shooting stroke. DMC was on pace to take 502 threes as the stretch five playing alongside Anthony Davis. Best option for Lakers would be for Boogie to love that role next to AD and re-sign for the three years and $30 million at the taxpayer MLE so we could keep him. He’s obviously the perfect fit at the five with AD wanting to play the four.

        It will also be interesting to see if Vogel slows the Lakers pace down dramatically to keep LeBron and Boogie from getting tired and suffering more injuries. Boogie was trying to play at the Warriors pace, which may have contributed to the torn quad. The first year Boogie and AD played together, the Pelicans were 8th in pace. In 2017-18, when Boogie went down, they were 1st in pace. Last year, the Warriors were 10th but the actual pace was faster than the Pelicans when they were 1st the previous year.

        • John M.

          John M. 2:56 PM on July 22, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Yet people assume Durant will be just fine, namely, SAS and the Nets…

          • therealhtj

            therealhtj 3:12 PM on July 22, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Barring complications, he can come back at 70-75%. That’s still a nice player. Probably all-star adjacent. I wouldn’t have maxed him out, but nice.

  • p ang

    p ang 7:15 PM on July 15, 2019 Permalink  

    Time to wish the LA Clippers well. They have a chance to really become a powerhouse team by adding 2 more stars who are looking for a home: Dwight Howard and Chris Paul.

    Old Chinese curse: May you live in interesting times.

     
    • havoc

      havoc 7:42 PM on July 15, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Did CP3 nd howard now joined the clippers?

      • p ang

        p ang 9:22 PM on July 15, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        no. tongue in cheek, havoc. can you imagine the amount of tension in the locker room with those 2 in it? for all that talent is it worth it?

    • Worthy42

      Worthy42 7:43 AM on July 16, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      D12 alone would be enough to sink that team. Here’s hoping he signs with them.

  • p ang

    p ang 10:59 PM on July 12, 2019 Permalink  

    I’ll take 80% of this guy:

     
    • mclyne32 (Director) 11:12 PM on July 12, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I sure hope he can remain healthy.
      Nobody will have a chance if LeBron, AD, Boogie and Kuz can play the majority of the reg season together.

      • keen observer

        keen observer 8:17 AM on July 13, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        He’ll be in great shape, but that doesn’t necessarily mean anything.

  • p ang

    p ang 10:22 PM on July 12, 2019 Permalink  

    lol

     
    • mclyne32 (Director) 11:13 PM on July 12, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Clippers always be clippin.’
      Dusty old uncle Clipp.

      • therealhtj

        therealhtj 9:32 AM on July 13, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Dennis only sent cornrows there because they knew they’d be able to run the show. Probably made a backhanded deal with Balls too. Don’t be shocked if Unc gets some lofty “consulting role” with them.

  • p ang

    p ang 2:57 AM on July 6, 2019 Permalink  

    Dang, the Hallway series just got very interesting.

     
    • Seely_Iggy (Director)

      Seely_Iggy (Director) 7:57 AM on July 6, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I wonder if the delay was on purpose. Screw the Lakers by making them wait and missing out on better supporting talent.

      • MongoSlade

        MongoSlade 8:06 AM on July 6, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Naw…he had to wait for the PG trade to come through. Apparently Toronto was working on a trade for him as well….

        • Seely_Iggy (Director)

          Seely_Iggy (Director) 8:48 AM on July 6, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Well, it certainly makes the Staples rivalry more interesting. LA is the Mecca for basketball. Man, wish I were back there again. I’m in the boondocks of Florida.

    • mclyne32 (Director) 9:07 AM on July 6, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Thanks Magic, your childish antics cost us the best player in the game.
      West is just as competitive as last year with Dubs falling and Clippers rising.
      I still can’t believe it.
      The rest of the NBA world is celebrating our loss.
      At least we overpaid KFC again to underwhelm!

  • p ang

    p ang 7:26 PM on July 5, 2019 Permalink  

    So they finally got tired of Dwight Howard. Dang.

    Traded and waived. He can call Melo and they can form a support group.

    He aint Superman, He’s Bizarro.

     
  • p ang

    p ang 4:48 PM on June 28, 2019 Permalink  

    This 32m cap space could well be a machiavellian ploy by the Lakers. Because everybody knows they have this money available causes them to overpay their FAs (Brook Lopez, Middleton, Kemba, etc) making them unable to match LA’s offer to their RFAs (Brogdon, DLo, etc). Every money eaten up will make the vets open to vet min offers.

     
  • p ang

    p ang 12:19 PM on June 28, 2019 Permalink  

    Question: So why doesn’t GSW just drop KD and make a stab at Kawhi?

     
  • p ang

    p ang 3:47 PM on June 27, 2019 Permalink  

    Crows were put in the endangered list today.

    Seems a lot of people have are being forced fed the formerly common bird by a certain Rob Lowe lookalike.

     
    • Magicman (Editor)

      Magicman (Editor) 3:51 PM on June 27, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Maybe follow your own advice about the Raps!

      We still got our drip, whole country says kiss our a*s!

      • p ang

        p ang 4:06 PM on June 27, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Are you on drugs? You saying that when the Cavs kept beating them its a Canada kiss the USA’s a*s thing? sheesh.

        • p ang

          p ang 4:12 PM on June 27, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          And what the fk are you saying I said about the Raps? Didn’t and still don’t really care anything about them. They won, great. So did a lot of other teams. They still aint the Lakers.

          Whole country? Dang. I don’t think you’re that authoritative to speak in behalf of Canada. Maybe that little corner you occupy.

      • DJ2KB24

        DJ2KB24 4:58 PM on June 27, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Canadians are our Best friends and Congrats to the whole Nation. They are excited and should be. Now back to us, Lakers next up! : )

    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 4:44 PM on June 27, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      lol. That’s funny. Perhaps you found no reason to doubt but there was ample evidence to weigh for those who did. He’s digging himself out of a hole, he’s doing his job, we’ll see how well on Sunday. But crow? Please bruh…

      It’s not like AD was happy being a Pelican and Robby boy outfoxed David Griffin. Just like any credit directed Magic’s way in regards to closing the deal with LBJ should be flavored well with a healthy dose of ‘he wanted to come here’ so does the AD trade. Just doing his job, nuttin special…yet. He ain’t Jerry West convincing Shaq to leave Orlando or getting Charlotte to trade Kobe for Vlade Divac, those are the kind of moves that the masters make. Rob doing his job, and, yes, doing it better than when he had Magic breathing down his neck. If he finagles Leonard here we can return to this convo.

      Crow will be if KCP wins an MVP trophy next season. That is some bird I’ll happily chow on.

      • p ang

        p ang 5:00 PM on June 27, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Actually it was a dig at the media. Almost all took the negative side instead of just waiting it out and see what happens. Rob and Jeannie being unproven provided fertile land for their doubt.

        The way I look at it Lakers did take Pels to the cleaners. A top 5 guy for 3 guys who are proven to be injury prone. The picks are going to be non-lottery and the pick swap is all but useless.

        JWest takes away too much credit. At least half of things he did it was Dr. Buss who pulled the strings. Shaq wanted to come here and Buss told West to throw money at him till he hits the threshold, Kobe told everybody he wanted to go to LA and he threaten to not sign with anybody else. Credit should go to where it belongs: Dr. Buss. People forget West didn’t even want to draft Magic till Buss told him otherwise. Rob doesn’t have Dr. Buss.

        • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

          Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 6:47 PM on June 27, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          While there’s some truth to that West had to convince Dr, Buss to trade Divac (fan fave, solid multi-use center) for a kid outta high school. Jerry has always had an incredible eye for talent.

          At any rate the fun starts Sunday.

          • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

            Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 6:47 PM on June 27, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            West that is

            • p ang

              p ang 8:45 PM on June 27, 2019 Permalink

              that’s revisionist history. why would you have to convince Dr. Buss to trade your expensive backup C when you have Shaq on board? Vlade was gone the minute Shaq signed. Charlotte was going to draft Kobe regardless but thought Vlade was an offer they couldn’t refuse. Proven C against 18 yr old maybe?

              Can’t wait for Sunday.

  • p ang

    p ang 4:36 PM on June 26, 2019 Permalink  

    Guys who might take the vet min and be bench mob just to get a ring:

    1. Melo. Vindication and up yours, D’Antoni.
    2. Rondo. Will be the only player in NBA history to get rings from Cs and Lakers.
    3. Isaiah Thomas.
    4. Tyson Chandler.

     
    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 4:42 PM on June 26, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I’ll take 1, 2, & 4 while passing on 3. Caruso is better. Maybe not more talented but better for what we need out of that roster spot. IT barely played last year and it’s third straight season of missing multiple games due to that hip injury or rehabbing or both.

      This is the 3rd straight summer of this article: https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27060254/isaiah-thomas-excited-show-do-again

      But best of luck to him, I’ve always rooted for that little fireball and I hope he proves me wrong.

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 4:42 PM on June 26, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I’m intrigued by the possibility of Isaiah Thomas on a minimum contract if he could really get back to what he was before the last injury.

      • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

        Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 4:44 PM on June 26, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        lol, last summer I felt like we were twins on the same page sharing a brain. This summer we’re like on 2 different planets, lol

        • LakerTom (Publisher) 4:52 PM on June 26, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          That’s what makes the world go around, Jamie. By the time we’re rolling, I suspect we’ll intersect again. :-)

          Honestly, the tide is turning. I think Frank Vogel being hired, the Lakers winning the #4 pick, then trading for AD, and finally drafting THT were all big steps in the right direction.

          Still some big moves to be made and we may differ on what they should be but so far the options I’m hearing being considered make sense. Something we couldn’t say last summer.

    • NBA4ever

      NBA4ever 7:49 PM on June 26, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I’d take 2 3 4 1 in that order. I’m sure Rondo will be a Laker and I’d love to give IT a chance at vet min.

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 7:53 PM on June 26, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I’ll take Rondo simply because Lebron & AD love playing with him on the floor.
      Pass on those other dudes…

  • p ang

    p ang 3:57 PM on June 25, 2019 Permalink  

    Rockets doing a Kanye.

    NOOOOO! Award doesn’t belong with Taylor Swift. It belongs to Beyonce.

    Guess what that did for Kanye’s cred.

     
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