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  • NuggetsCountry (Director)

    NuggetsCountry (Director) 3:26 PM on December 19, 2016 Permalink  

    Hey all! Helluva year for me, in a bad way………. still above ground……..so far…….

    Merry Christmas & Happy Chanukah to all!

     
  • NuggetsCountry (Director)

    NuggetsCountry (Director) 10:20 PM on April 13, 2016 Permalink  

    you know it’s coming…………

    KOBE FOR 50!!!

    …….oops…………….60!!!

     
    • GDUBinDC

      GDUBinDC 10:21 PM on April 13, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      : ) … good to see ya, Nuggs.

    • mclyne32 (Director) 10:24 PM on April 13, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Nuggs!
      Missed you dude.

      Kobe- simply the best

      • NuggetsCountry (Director)

        NuggetsCountry (Director) 10:39 PM on April 13, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Miss U 2 !!!! End of our GOAT era…………………sniff, sniff…………..

        I feel like they did on the end of The Truman Show…………….’what else is on’ (next season).

        • mclyne32 (Director) 10:47 PM on April 13, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Yeah, I’m sad that this Kobe ride is over but happy as well since so many games this year were hard to watch him fight through all of his injuries.

          • Magicman (Editor)

            Magicman (Editor) 10:52 PM on April 13, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            His Shoulder is wrecked. Like a topographical map of New Zealand (literally hanging by a thread) . And he managed to get through this far. Nothing left to give.

            When you love what you do, ride it to glory.

    • LRob (Director)

      LRob (Director) 10:54 PM on April 13, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      what’s up peeps. Good to see Kobe go out with a Bang!

      • Magicman (Editor)

        Magicman (Editor) 10:55 PM on April 13, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Sup! Glad to see you back even if it may be a drive-by. :)

      • mclyne32 (Director) 11:07 PM on April 13, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Been too long, my friend.
        You and Nuggs need to come back more often.

        • LRob (Director)

          LRob (Director) 11:11 PM on April 13, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          very true! Will do for sure! Good to hear from you and see everyone still around.

    • LRob (Director)

      LRob (Director) 10:58 PM on April 13, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      sup Sean. Drive-by are aight …everyone in a while. But I’ll probably pop in more often ;)

      • Magicman (Editor)

        Magicman (Editor) 10:59 PM on April 13, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Cool. Hope life In the D is treating you alright, Lrob.

    • LRob (Director)

      LRob (Director) 11:04 PM on April 13, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Things pretty good in the D….thank God. Looking forward to an exciting playoffs. Like the song says…It’s the Most Wonderful Time of the Year :)

  • NuggetsCountry (Director)

    NuggetsCountry (Director) 9:06 PM on July 3, 2015 Permalink  

    all the guys in the poll to the right are gone! Time to take it down?

     
    • For whom the bell trolls (trollman) 10:47 PM on July 3, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I guess it’s too late for me to vote then, wait, LMA hasn’t officially decided yet.

  • NuggetsCountry (Director)

    NuggetsCountry (Director) 4:52 PM on May 30, 2015 Permalink  

    Good article:

    http://www.latimes.com/sports/lakers/la-sp-lakers-scott-plaschke-20150531-column.html

     
    • tate793

      tate793 5:10 PM on May 30, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Excellent article summing up Scott’s accomplishment given the circumstances. Byron did a great job with what he had to work.

    • keen observer

      keen observer 6:31 PM on May 30, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I felt he did a good job under the circumstances. The Lakers were in most of the games, but couldn’t close them for obvious reasons. Of course, we’ll never know whether that was because it had anything to do with the coaching or whether teams were just toying with us or some combination of the 2. He certainly does not deserve to be canned. The question is whether someone else is better for the long haul and specifically whether Tom Thibideau is that guy with his track record in Chicago. I’m not a Thibideau fan, but he’s undeniably a better coach than Byron Scott. He will also likely get hired by someone else sooner rather than later, so I would certainly have discussions about hiring him even if it means firing Byron Scott. It’s a business.

  • NuggetsCountry (Director)

    NuggetsCountry (Director) 11:24 AM on May 29, 2015 Permalink  

    I had a total knee replacement last October (7 months ago). I am having difficulty getting full extension. This causes pain to surface in lower leg and foot areas, so my goal is to get to zero degrees (full extension). Anybody in here know of someone in a similar situation that got it fixed or had success getting past this problem? PM me if you have ideas. My surgeon is disinterested in doing anything further, so I will try others to see if they are interested in helping me get better, but in the meantime I thought I would see if one of you has ideas. I made an extension board with a ratchet, but that isn’t doing it either. doing lots of quad stretch and weight work. dunno……….. ideas?

    Sorry if this seems inappropriate, here, but, whatever……………………

     
    • mud

      mud 11:33 AM on May 29, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      lawsuit against the surgeon?

      another doctor’s opinion?

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 11:53 AM on May 29, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Wish I had some advice for you, JB. I’ve been having some problems with my right knee giving out at certain angles. Worried I might have to have an operation down the road. Had a good friend just go through what you did but he was a lot younger than you or me. Good luck getting through this. Man, I hate hospitals and rehab. Gets harder the older you get.

      • Magicman (Editor)

        Magicman (Editor) 12:00 PM on May 29, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Tom, a brace hasn’t helped correct the problem?

      • LakerTom (Publisher) 12:03 PM on May 29, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Haven’t had a chance to do much running or hiking or biking but I have an appointment next month to see my orthopedist. Probably will have me do a bunch of PT, which I hate. Not fun getting old, Sean. Have to be careful of getting injured all the time.

        • Magicman (Editor)

          Magicman (Editor) 12:21 PM on May 29, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Tom, when I tore my Rotator Cuff, I thought my career might have been over, so I decided against Surgery, risky move

          I work a brace, it helped with muscle compression and joint stabilization and that partial tear healed over time.

          I think a compression brace wouldn’t hurt trying out, Tom.

          Tommie Copper is the best around.

          http://www.tommiecopper.com/men-s-recovery-compression-knee-sleeve-8

          • LakerTom (Publisher) 12:24 PM on May 29, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Thanks, Sean, Appreciate the advice. I will try it out.
            Anything but operations and PT. LOL.

            • Magicman (Editor)

              Magicman (Editor) 12:26 PM on May 29, 2015 Permalink

              No problem, Tom.

              Hey, I was skeptical at first to, mostly because I sweat more than Patrick Ewing and was worried the brace would slide down. Hahahaha.

              But I got the right fit, and it was a blessing.

            • LakerTom (Publisher) 12:29 PM on May 29, 2015 Permalink

              Just ordered one. Thanks.

    • Magicman (Editor)

      Magicman (Editor) 11:55 AM on May 29, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      http://thesteadmanclinic.com/Index.asp

      Dr.Steadman is great, Nuggs.

      Retired now, but his clinic is fantastic. Not knowing from personal experience, but guys on the Raps and Blue Jays have gone to see him.

      • NuggetsCountry (Director)

        NuggetsCountry (Director) 1:19 PM on May 29, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        He is about as far away as Denver, so maybe. Thanks. I have a list of docs to see. My PT guy says just keeping making appointments until someone seems interested in trying to fix the problem. I think this is where Kobe was when the “incident” happened…………

    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 1:41 PM on May 29, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      In a word: Orthokine. Follow Kobe to Germany.

  • NuggetsCountry (Director)

    NuggetsCountry (Director) 6:08 PM on May 12, 2015 Permalink  

    Game is fixed! Can’t be anything else with the refs actually reviewing the Deladova trip/lock and then throwing Taj out and giving Del….. a tech and fouls!!!???? Fixed!!! No other conclusion possible if you are a seeing person!

     
  • NuggetsCountry (Director)

    NuggetsCountry (Director) 3:24 PM on May 12, 2015 Permalink  

    Two differing characters will to play:

     
    • Magicman (Editor)

      Magicman (Editor) 3:30 PM on May 12, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Pau’s durability again deterring his reputation.

      • DJ2KB24

        DJ2KB24 4:01 PM on May 12, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Yep, Chi needs him to play! Else the Cavs train will roll on.

        • Magicman (Editor)

          Magicman (Editor) 4:03 PM on May 12, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Yup DJ. He’s been keeping Tristan Thompson honest the first 3 games with his ability to hit the 20 foot Jumper.

          Now with Gibson, TT can play his natural position inside of 10 feet.

    • mud

      mud 4:05 PM on May 12, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Pau isn’t a tough guy, but neither is Lebron.

      • Magicman (Editor)

        Magicman (Editor) 4:10 PM on May 12, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Some would say that’s a valid point, mud. I also don’t remember the word “soft” being associated with Lebron though.

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 4:26 PM on May 12, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I’m no Pau apologist but it would be stupid to trot him out there before the hammy is sound. Better to give it a coupla more days to heal and have him available for games 6 & 7 than to have him make it even worse tonight and lose him for a few weeks.

  • NuggetsCountry (Director)

    NuggetsCountry (Director) 1:41 PM on May 9, 2015 Permalink  

    RUMOR!: Lakers looking to add players!

     
    • DJ2KB24

      DJ2KB24 1:52 PM on May 9, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Yea! “Rumours.” We are signing Fleetwood Mac!

      • Magicman (Editor)

        Magicman (Editor) 2:08 PM on May 9, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        “What kind of a proof? It’s a proof. A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it’s because it’s proven.”

        • therealhtj

          therealhtj 2:14 PM on May 9, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Well you’ve certainly proven you know how to copy & paste.

          • Magicman (Editor)

            Magicman (Editor) 2:16 PM on May 9, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            You got no proof Love has every reason to leave.

            Some of us have got ALL THE PROOF he has every reason to stay in Cleveland.

            Nice pun, you Bear Poon Ukrainian!

            • therealhtj

              therealhtj 2:24 PM on May 9, 2015 Permalink

              Don’t you mean poof? Cuz in Cleveland Love’ll be all Keyser Soze -- Poof, it’s like he was never there.

              Definitely don’t see any “proof” one way or the other.

            • Magicman (Editor)

              Magicman (Editor) 2:29 PM on May 9, 2015 Permalink

              133 Million, playing with Lebron before he goes out to pasture along with Kyrie who’s entering his prime.

              You spend 3 months in a Ohio Suburb in a Mansion. The other 6 months you go to your crib in Calabasas or Santa Monica.

              Oh no proof? Anecdotal is what it is, Stan.

              Dwight was “keeping his options open.” But Love prefaced that by saying “I want to stay here.”

            • therealhtj

              therealhtj 2:40 PM on May 9, 2015 Permalink

              But he wouldn’t be taking that max deal this summer. He’s going for the 2016 money. He’ll at least opt-out and take a 1+1. Lebron too.

            • Magicman (Editor)

              Magicman (Editor) 2:43 PM on May 9, 2015 Permalink

              LA’s gonna do the same thing. He’s got 80 Million reasons to do it to.

          • Magicman (Editor)

            Magicman (Editor) 2:42 PM on May 9, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Hanging your hat since Dwight left a ‘perfect situation’ that Love will do the same.

            That’s what EVERYONE else on here is thinking to. Well it wasn’t a ‘perfect situation’ for Dwight, his perfect situation was Houston.

            And not for nothing, we both hang our hats on Kobe being the primary on why he ain’t stay. But we both know their are other factors beyond that. It wasn’t just one thing.

            Where else in this Landscape is Love going to go? New York? Nope, that means instead of playing with Bron, he’d be competing against him. Ask him if he’d want to do that at this point?

            LA? Sure, but he’d be in a stacked Conference with MUCH better teams that are in a position to win a title.

            Recruit Russell? Conjecture. And he’d have to wait 2 1/2 years maybe longer with the Lockout.

            He’s in a position where he can win now. But he’d go to a place that’s at least 3 years away from competing for a Title and one of those years he might not be able to ever get back because of a Lockout.

            Where else?

            • Magicman (Editor)

              Magicman (Editor) 2:52 PM on May 9, 2015 Permalink

              And don’t think it won’t go a year. With Michele Roberts it’s almost written in the stars.

              Why don’t we have the owners play half the games?. There would be no money if not for the players. Let’s call it what it is. There… would… be… no… money. Thirty more owners can come in, and nothing will change. These guys [players] go? The game will change. So let’s stop pretending.

              “Most of the time I go to the locker room, the players are there and there are like eight or nine reporters just standing there, just starting at them. And I think to myself, “OK, so this is media availability?” If you don’t have a f___ing question, leave, because it’s an incredible invasion of privacy.

              “She’s the Roseanne Barr of the negotiators,” a GM told me. “Where did she get that about the dressing room? She must have heard it from one of the players. It’s like, you have to be careful what you say around your kids. They believe everything they hear that comes out of your mouth.”

              Nevertheless, there’s no missing the fact that Roberts is the choice of the megastars–Chris Paul, the union president, and James, the first vice president. If Roberts is scary, she’s what CP3 and Bron had in mind.

              It’s true that owners can’t play a lick but they can do one hell of a job of shutting down the game–which I expect them to do, right on schedule, on July 1, 2017.

              Unless both sides take a deep breath collectively, it won’t be one of those pro forma soft lockouts but one that jeopardizes everything up to Thanksgiving or Christmas or Thanksgiving, 2018

              Having covered a bunch of these wastes of rich people’s money and everybody’s time, I personally recommend not giving a d**n.

              If you guys want to go, have a ball. This season’s too long, anyway.

              All that’s in their way is good sense, for the little difference that makes.

              http://www.forbes.com/sites/markheisler/2015/03/16/nba-lockout-of-2017-riches-or-no-riches-get-r-r-r-ready-to-rumble/2/

            • Magicman (Editor)

              Magicman (Editor) 2:55 PM on May 9, 2015 Permalink

              Nevertheless, there’s no missing the fact that Roberts is the choice of the megastars–Chris Paul, the union president, and James, the first vice president. If Roberts is scary, she’s what CP3 and Bron had in mind.

              When it comes to protecting your most prized ideologies (Guaranteed Money/Equal close to equal cut of BRI) you want a Nasty B***h at the table.

              We may lose a whole year. It’s looking more and more that way.

            • therealhtj

              therealhtj 3:50 PM on May 9, 2015 Permalink

              Hope Lebron and CP3 enjoy spending the last of their prime running from boardroom to boardroom then. Makes a lot of sense.

            • Magicman (Editor)

              Magicman (Editor) 3:59 PM on May 9, 2015 Permalink

              That’s on them for sure.

              Michelle Roberts thinks men who play a boys game with double comma pay cheques need a Million Man march because these dumbasses can’t read a spreadsheet.

            • therealhtj

              therealhtj 4:09 PM on May 9, 2015 Permalink

              And who da hell said Dwight left a perfect situation? If you’re a star in his prime who’ll get max money anywhere, A broken down Kobe and a clueless D’Antoni hardly amount to a perfect situation.

            • MongoSlade

              MongoSlade 4:23 PM on May 9, 2015 Permalink

              And that’s the most hilarious (ironic? hypocritical?) part of all this. Dwight gets slammed for leaving a declining team for a contender while some here are praising Love for possibly leaving a contender to join a non-playoff team. Weird.

            • therealhtj

              therealhtj 4:28 PM on May 9, 2015 Permalink

              It ain’t praise, just wishful thinking. There are rational arguments either way. To say it’s a foregone conclusion is foolhardy at best.

            • NBA4ever

              NBA4ever 4:58 PM on May 9, 2015 Permalink

              I wouldn’t criticize him for staying or leaving. It’s the assumptions that anyone knows what he’s thinking that is ridiculous to me. To say he has quit in him or that he is this or that if he leaves is ridiculous as it can be the exact opposite of anyone’s opinion. You can criticize his game but don’t think you know his heart or thinking. Anything can happen and we should all agree we’d be fortunate if he signed with the Lakers.

            • MongoSlade

              MongoSlade 5:15 PM on May 9, 2015 Permalink

              That boy got some quit in him and I’d be happier if we spent that money elsewhere. I’d rather have a coupla 2nd tier guys (Carroll, D.Green, Harris, etc.) than pay max money to a guy destined to be 2nd fiddle at best on a contending team. If he comes here, I hope to GAWD he proves me wrong and I’ll be the first to admit it. I might be wrong……but I doubt it.

            • NBA4ever

              NBA4ever 5:27 PM on May 9, 2015 Permalink

              Yea ok, his numbers would say otherwise and if they don’t then he could be one if the greatest ever if only he tried. I can say the same thing about LeBron or Kobe among others. Like I said it’s ridiculous

            • MongoSlade

              MongoSlade 5:30 PM on May 9, 2015 Permalink

              Kobe & LeBron have at the very least have led teams to the playoffs in a league where over half the teams make it…..lmao. No need to even bring up the multiple rings.

    • keen observer

      keen observer 3:28 PM on May 9, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      That was hilarious, Nuggets!

  • NuggetsCountry (Director)

    NuggetsCountry (Director) 10:11 AM on April 6, 2015 Permalink  

    Say goodbye Nick!

    http://www.dailynews.com/sports/20150405/lakers-nick-young-believes-byron-scott-unfairly-criticizes-him

     
    • wesjoenixon

      wesjoenixon 3:35 PM on April 6, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I loved this part:

      Does Young take Scott’s words as valuable feedback?

      “Nah,” Young said. “

    • NBA4ever

      NBA4ever 7:55 PM on April 6, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Easy contact to trade.

      • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

        Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 8:25 PM on April 6, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Errrrr, you think? I can’t think of a team that Nick Young elevates beyond that they get a streak shooting fashionista. His overall game took a big step back. Really, he’s the perfect Mike D’Antoni player: no bad shots? AWESOME BRO!!!!

        I agree the money looks easy to trade, decent deal cap wise, but the player hasn’t played the value high enogh for it to be enticing.

  • NuggetsCountry (Director)

    NuggetsCountry (Director) 7:49 PM on March 25, 2015 Permalink  

    LOL! ……..predictable………….

    Good game for Clarkson. Proving he should be on this team,next year!

     
  • NuggetsCountry (Director)

    NuggetsCountry (Director) 10:05 PM on March 10, 2015 Permalink  

    suicide watch?

     
  • NuggetsCountry (Director)

    NuggetsCountry (Director) 7:36 AM on December 20, 2014 Permalink  

    It is hard for even ME to watch Kobe these days……………………… First time, last night, I stated he looked like retirement was a better place to be……………………… I’m tired of losing these winable games!

     
  • NuggetsCountry (Director)

    NuggetsCountry (Director) 3:44 PM on December 19, 2014 Permalink  

    So, with all the newly released players, who did we pick up!? I ask only because I have been off my twitter feed all day, and assume our FO has been frantically picking up other team’s rejects as fast as we can! BECAUSE all of them are probably upgrades past 3 or 4 roster spots…………………… ?????????????

     
    • DJ2KB24

      DJ2KB24 3:49 PM on December 19, 2014 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Always good for a laugh NC!

      • DJ2KB24

        DJ2KB24 3:49 PM on December 19, 2014 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Oops, Kobe for 50!

        • NuggetsCountry (Director)

          NuggetsCountry (Director) 3:57 PM on December 19, 2014 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          50 shots? 50 TOs? 50 passes to his teammates for 3 made shots= 3assists? 50 fouls made against him for exactly 3 FT trips!? 50 minutes played because we are watching his PT, but still trying to stay in the game?

  • NuggetsCountry (Director)

    NuggetsCountry (Director) 5:10 PM on December 14, 2014 Permalink  

    did anybody else notice Kobe passing Jordan Just… 

    did anybody else notice Kobe passing Jordan? Just as I thought in here……………. Thanks for letting us Kobe fans post, anyway!

     
    • DJ2KB24

      DJ2KB24 5:12 PM on December 14, 2014 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Am witcha NC!

      • DJ2KB24

        DJ2KB24 5:16 PM on December 14, 2014 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Interestingly enough, when my son approached Eddie Jones for an autograph, he said, “go ask Kobe Bryant.” I was shocked. I think it was Kobe’s second year and I told my son that Eddie probably sees Kobe as his successor. I guess duh!

        • DJ2KB24

          DJ2KB24 5:22 PM on December 14, 2014 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Didn’t say you were. I just thought that was really weird. Seriously, my son asked you Eddie cause he wanted your auto.

    • tate793

      tate793 6:27 PM on December 14, 2014 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Kobe

      • DJ2KB24

        DJ2KB24 7:24 PM on December 14, 2014 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Nah, Kobe took a pic with my son and auto’ed a couple things as well. Was extremely nice.

        • tate793

          tate793 7:39 PM on December 14, 2014 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          I know, DJ, I wasn’t “asking” I was just making a statement. “Kobe”. Kobe is a very personable guy. Have met him a few times, latest was at In n Out Burger in Irvine. He’s quite an accomplished individual at such an early age.

    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 7:34 PM on December 14, 2014 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Quite the accomplishment.

  • NuggetsCountry (Director)

    NuggetsCountry (Director) 11:57 AM on December 14, 2014 Permalink  

    Tonight is the night! 

    Not much left to say!

    KOBE FOR 32293!!!

     
    • DJ2KB24

      DJ2KB24 12:14 PM on December 14, 2014 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      “Yeah baby!”

    • NuggetsCountry (Director)

      NuggetsCountry (Director) 12:35 PM on December 14, 2014 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Pundits always fail to mention he sat on the bench for his first 3 seasons, mostly, (something MJ never had to do!) and lost at least a year in recent injuries. Plus, he did most of the past 8 years doing it against double/triple teams!

      • AK27

        AK27 12:54 PM on December 14, 2014 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        That is true enough, Nuggs…MJ likely never played on teams as bad as the ones Kobe has been a part of….Kobe coulda gotten there faster if he could match MJ’s efficiency though..he has never been able to do that, regardless of the state of the team..

        • NuggetsCountry (Director)

          NuggetsCountry (Director) 1:01 PM on December 14, 2014 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Yup -- MJ had huge hands, bigger, more hops, and HOF/All-Stars mostly in Chi town. And a lesser competition league. Always finished at the rim. Kobe is right there in GOAT-talent terms, but not in efficiency. Still hard to compare eras……….. Baylor was the greatest of an era, I ever watched.

          • DJ2KB24

            DJ2KB24 1:05 PM on December 14, 2014 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            MJ played sick once, big stinking deal. Kobe played almost a season with a broken finger on his shooting hand. Kobe has had bias against him since day one. You can see that with some of our owner Laker Bloggers, always pointing out negatives about Kobe. The Media has always loved MJ, the same can’t be said for obe. You watch, some one will reply with, yeah, but Kobe…

            • AK27

              AK27 1:17 PM on December 14, 2014 Permalink

              MJ , I’m told, had a life outside basketball, DJ..Kobe is all about the game..he is seen as being aloof…more so earlier in his career than now…and then there has been an incident or two…..the difference in attitude towards the two isn’t exactly a surprise..( even when you factor in MJ’s HOF speech..that was a doozy lol )

              And then there is the fact that you’re a lil too sensitive abt your boy, DJ…I mean, I love Kobe and I am gonna miss the guy when he is gone…but I am not in the same league as you :D

            • mclyne32 (Director) 1:38 PM on December 14, 2014 Permalink

              If you want to talk about outside of basketball negatives, Jordan holds the ultimate negative strike of any player ever: His obsessive gambling habit (and debts) were linked to his Father being murdered. I would say that is much worse than Kobe having a fling with a psycho who just wanted infamy and money.

            • AK27

              AK27 1:53 PM on December 14, 2014 Permalink

              That does sound a lot worse but there seems to have been no real evidence of such a connection, Matt…it was speculation, at best, by a some reporters..

            • mclyne32 (Director) 2:00 PM on December 14, 2014 Permalink

              where there is smoke, there is fire…

            • AK27

              AK27 2:06 PM on December 14, 2014 Permalink

              That sure is true..doesn’t reveal much abt the source of the fire though :)

              Do you agree with DJ about the difference in the way they are perceived, Matt ? If yes, then, to what would you attribute said difference ?

            • mclyne32 (Director) 3:05 PM on December 14, 2014 Permalink

              Ever since I’ve been watching the NBA, there has always been an unspoken hatred for the Lakers by media and the NBA itself. Maybe it’s because the Lakers have dominated the Championships in the modren era, maybe it’s because before this CBA, the Lakers had the account to pay for top talent, maybe because in any area of business those on top are always hated by those on the bottom.

              The NBA, in the modern era, has always chosen the next heir apparent before their time has come. Grant Hill, Vince Carter, Tracy McGrady, Melo, ect. ect. Maybe they wanted to prop these guys up just to shed a light on how they never came close to being as “great” as their beloved Jordan.
              Then Kobe actually did come VERY close to what Jordan accomplished, and in some measurables, surpassed him. This scared them and made them realize that maybe there would be a guy who could be considered greater than Jordan. They even propped up LeBron before he had done a d**n thing, right in the middle of Kobe’s dominance.

              Maybe it’s because Kobe has never candy coated his thoughts and never played down to the media.
              Maybe because they know he doesn’t give a rats a*s about their biased opinions and keeps breaking records to make them look and sound stupid and ignorant.

              All I know for certain is that we will never see another guy so focused, so hell bent on being the best basketball player of all time, in our life time.
              I sure hope that some of the Laker fans and some of the ignorant media pundits realize after Kobe hangs them up, that he really did deserve to be in the conversation with Cousey, Havlicek, Russel,Wilt, West, Baylor, Bird, Magic, and Jordan.

              It still amazes me that I have to defend Kobe’s legacy, on a Laker blog, when without him, there would not have been the last 5 Laker Championships.

            • AK27

              AK27 3:15 PM on December 14, 2014 Permalink

              Whoa..elaborate answer..I am not sure why you thought you had to “defend Kobe’s legacy” though…there was no attack on the substance of who Kobe is as a player..the question was about your take on possible reasons for the way Kobe and MJ was “perceived” differently…and you did share your thoughts on that…thanks

              One thing I didn’t understand about your response is why would the NBA have a problem with anyone surpassing MJ ? It is largely driven by economic interests and any player propelling them to greater heights would be a benefit to the league…

            • tate793

              tate793 6:55 PM on December 14, 2014 Permalink

              Plus, MJ had the personality of a toilet plunger.

      • DJ2KB24

        DJ2KB24 1:00 PM on December 14, 2014 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        On board with you NC!

      • mclyne32 (Director) 1:41 PM on December 14, 2014 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        @ Nuggs
        Yup.
        Also, he was never option 1 while he played with Shaq(unless of course Shaq fouled out or missed the game).
        Jordan was option one, two, and three throughout his entire career,

    • GDUBinDC

      GDUBinDC 1:45 PM on December 14, 2014 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Some of u Mamba zealots r downright amusing at times. At any rate … carry on. : )

      • tate793

        tate793 3:22 PM on December 14, 2014 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Kobe had the athletic gifts and acumen to do it straight outta high school. He didn’t have 4 years of Dean Smith’s tutoring to prepare him for the NBA, but yet, still was an NBA All Star at the age of 19. Kobe never walked away from the game to attempt to play baseball -- Kobe’s endured physical challenges that MJ never had to face.

        • tate793

          tate793 3:37 PM on December 14, 2014 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          @ Amit

          As for “matching Jordan’s efficiency” Kobe has actually exceeded Mike’s efficiency. Kobe’s 3pt efficiency and free throwing efficiency are greater than Michael’s. And, by the end of the day, his “putting-the-ball-in-the-hole-the-most-times” efficiency will be higher than Michael’s as well.

          • AK27

            AK27 3:41 PM on December 14, 2014 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            How ? Some numbers might help.

            • tate793

              tate793 4:17 PM on December 14, 2014 Permalink

              MJ Career 3pt fg% .327 ft% .835
              KB Career 3pt fg% .334 ft% .837

            • AK27

              AK27 4:44 PM on December 14, 2014 Permalink

              So..are we gonna ignore the 2 pt % even though those shots make for the majority of the FGAs, Tate ? :)

              I was referring to the overall FG% when talking to Nuggs and I think that is how he took it as well… you brought up a good point but I
              am not sure how it translates into Kobe being the more efficient player.. MJ has the higher TS% ( True Shooting Percentage factors in a player’s performance at the free-throw line and considers their efficiency on all types of shots. )

            • tate793

              tate793 7:34 PM on December 14, 2014 Permalink

              Amit --

              Allow me to reiterate….

              ” And, by the end of the day, his “putting-the-ball-in-the-hole-the-most-times” efficiency will be higher than Michael’s as well.”

        • GDUBinDC

          GDUBinDC 4:56 PM on December 14, 2014 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Actually, tate … MJ didn’t stay at NC for 4 years. But, please do carry on, u’re definitely keeping me amused. LOL

          • tate793

            tate793 7:24 PM on December 14, 2014 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Actually, gdub, he completed a 4th year at NC in 86 when he returned to complete his degree. Keeping you amused isn’t hasn’t proved difficult.

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