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  • NBA4ever

    NBA4ever 9:29 AM on July 1, 2018 Permalink  

    LeBron James representatives to meet with Sixers 

    A high-level Philadelphia 76ers contingent is meeting with LeBron James’ agent, Rich Paul, on Sunday in Los Angeles, league sources told ESPN.

  • NBA4ever

    NBA4ever 8:03 AM on July 1, 2018 Permalink  

    • mud

      mud 10:49 AM on July 1, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      says you, it wasn’t worth it.

      maybe Magic got $500,000 of joy out of it. it wasn’t your money.

  • NBA4ever

    NBA4ever 7:55 AM on July 1, 2018 Permalink  

    Pelicans, Lakers call DeMarcus Cousins on Day 1 of free agency 

    New Orleans Pelicans center DeMarcus Cousins received phone calls from the Pelicans and the Los Angeles Lakers on the first day of NBA free agency on Sunday, a source told ESPN’s The Undefeated.

    Cousins, a four-time All-Star, could meet with the Pelicans and Lakers on Sunday, but it is uncertain if such meetings would take place in person or over the phone. Cousins is currently in his hometown of Mobile, Alabama.

    A first-time unrestricted free agent, Cousins might be a stronger target for the LeBron James-seeking Lakers after free-agent guard Paul George decided to re-sign with the Oklahoma City Thunder.

    Cousins averaged 25.2 points, 12.9 rebounds, 5.4 assists and a 35.4 percent 3-point shooting average last season in 48 games with the Pelicans. The two-time all-NBA selection, however, suffered a season-ending Achilles tendon injury on Jan. 26 against the Houston Rockets. Cousins has been rehabilitating primarily in his offseason home of Las Vegas and has previously told The Undefeated that he could be ready by the start of training camp.

    “I’m looking forward to starting the season,” Cousins said. “That’s my own personal goal, so we’ll see what happens. That’s what I’m working on. The doctors haven’t really given me an answer because of the time I injured myself and the amount of time that I have.

    “It’s basically open field because I have so much time. But for me, I’m shooting to be ready for training camp.”

    Cousins also told The Undefeated that he is open to re-signing with the Pelicans but will make the best decision for himself.

    ESPN’s Adrian Wojnarowski reported that Cousins could be re-signed by the Pelicans to a two-year deal. The Lakers, however, are a team that Cousins expressed interest in being traded to during his latter years with the Sacramento Kings.

    A source close to Cousins said it might be time for him to play on a big-market stage after playing in Sacramento and New Orleans.

    When previously asked about free agency, Cousins told The Undefeated: “I don’t plan on rushing through this process. I’m going to make the absolute best decision for DeMarcus Cousins. We’ll see what that is. As of right now, I don’t really know. I can’t answer that. Would I like to go back to New Orleans? I’m very open to that. I love what we created. I love what was created after I went down. I would love to be part of it. But I’m going to do what’s best for me, and I feel they’ll do the same.”

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 8:00 AM on July 1, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      As we’ve just seen with PG, it ain’t so easy to leave a situation where u already know the lay of the land and ur content with. I’ve heard very little about him looking to leave and if NO offers him anything close to max then he’ll most likely stay put..hope he comes but I’m not holding my breath

      Whole lot riding on Kawhi now it seems

      • LakerTom (Publisher) 10:23 AM on July 1, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I do think you have to give OKC credit for selling PG on staying but you have to wonder how much LeBron’s presence was a positive and negative in his decision. Like I’ve been saying, there’s reasons guys want to play with him and reasons they don’t. PG wouldn’t get the kind of love in LA next to LeBron as he’ll get in OKC next to Russ. In the end, PG kind of wimped out and was likely not ready for prime time.

        It will be interesting to see if the lure to LA turns out to be false news with Boogie. While he’s been positive about wanting to return to NO, DeMarcus has also kept the door to leaving wide open and he has been rumored in the past to be interested in playing for the Lakers and in a bigger market, although that’s almost a negative at this point in time considering recent history. Boogie is a gamble I would be willing to take on right deal.

        How important is living where you want to live to a superstar like LeBron or Kawhi. Far as I am concerned, this year’s ‘Going to LA’ still has two out of three left in LeBron and Kawhi. I think LeBron is coming to LA regardless. He is scheduled to announce his decision Tuesday morning so it will be done before July 4th. Hard to imagine it’s not the Lakers or to deny that a big part of the decision was the City of Los Angeles and his family’s desire to be there.

        As for Kawhi, time to let the 76ers know you don’t want to go there and won’t re-sign if traded there. If he wants to come to the Lakers and play with LeBron, then that has to be his next stance. He needs to do everything in his power to enhance the Lakers leverage in this deal and force the Spurs to trade him to the Lakers. Otherwise, Kawhi better start shopping for long underwear because the 76ers are going to give the Spurs a good enough order to make a deal.

        As for the Lakers, like Kawhi Leonard, they need to learn from the Paul George situation and take action accordingly. DO NOT LET THIS OPPORTUNITRY PASS. That means upping the offer to Ingam and Kuzma. That’s an offer the Spurs would be fools to take over the 76ers offer. It has the perfect combination of able to contribute immediately and upside to become stars. Like it or not, the Lakers needs to step up to the plate and swing if they don’t want to strike out again.

        There’s still time for the Lakers to be the big winners in this free agency and the combination of trading for Kawhi and signing LeBron will enable them to build a better and deeper contending team than if they had been able to sign LeBron and PG as free agents. Bottom line, we’re still on course but now need to move aggressively to close a deal for both Kawhi and LeBron.

        • NBA4ever

          NBA4ever 10:33 AM on July 1, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Agree with everything you said but I think if you go all in you have to go all in. Not only do you make that trade but you also gamble (I think it’s a great bet) and go hard after Cousins.

          Michael has laid out the reasons why over and over. If you are bringing in LeBron and trading for Kawhi you are doing so to win NOW. I’m glad PG isn’t coming as he wouldn’t made much more of a difference against the Warriors.

          Need to try a different approach and go big. We all saw what the Pelicans did. Not going to beat them on the perimeter, you need a guy exactly like Cousins. He’s versitle on offense and can create out of the post which I think would benefit and extend LeBron’s career. He gives us the best chance to beat the Warriors.

          • LakerTom (Publisher) 11:13 AM on July 1, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            I’m willing to take that gamble, too, Sean. I just think you need to balance the contracts. I just posted Eric Pincus’ idea above. Let’s continue discussion there.

      • mud

        mud 10:50 AM on July 1, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        there’s nothing waiting on Kahwi. if he comes, great. if not, great.

  • NBA4ever

    NBA4ever 9:03 PM on June 30, 2018 Permalink  

    DeMarcus Cousins sounds like an increasingly likely target for the Lakers on a short-term max contract now that it appears Los Angeles will lose out on Paul George, per league sources. In January 2017, LeBron James called Cousins “the best big man in our game.”

    -Marc Stein

    • therealhtj

      therealhtj 9:09 PM on June 30, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      PG is a weak minded lil punk who ran from the spotlight. He probably won’t even make an allstar game in the west. Lakers get 90% of his production from 25% of the money with BI, or far better with Kawhi.

      • NBA4ever

        NBA4ever 9:12 PM on June 30, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I’m actually thrilled he ran. Playoff P pfff lol

        • Magicman (Editor)

          Magicman (Editor) 9:14 PM on June 30, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Never liked the idea of Paul George as a Laker. Thank Goodness.

        • mclyne32 (Director) 9:16 PM on June 30, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          He has been shown to be very soft when it really counts.

          • Magicman (Editor)

            Magicman (Editor) 9:22 PM on June 30, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            I had a post prepared. I thought if I let it play out he would reveal himself. :)

  • NBA4ever

    NBA4ever 8:50 PM on June 30, 2018 Permalink  

    Paul George Committed to OKC 

    Paul George has committed to sign a deal with the Oklahoma City Thunder, league sources tell ESPN.
    Per Wojnarowski

    • mclyne32 (Director) 8:53 PM on June 30, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Jordan going to Dallas.

      • NBA4ever

        NBA4ever 9:09 PM on June 30, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        DeAndre Jordan and the Dallas Mavericks have verbally agreed on a one-year deal approaching the $24.1 million option with the Clippers for next season that Jordan relinquished Friday, according to league sources.

        Wow he hates Doc that much he’s out for same deal…

    • therealhtj

      therealhtj 8:58 PM on June 30, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Just lost a lot of respect for him. Enjoy winning nothing but the hairline olympics.

    • Magic Phil

      Magic Phil 9:01 PM on June 30, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      So that means Kawhi is coming?

    • mclyne32 (Director) 9:05 PM on June 30, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      CP3 signs with Rockets for four years, $160 mil

  • NBA4ever

    NBA4ever 4:04 PM on June 29, 2018 Permalink  

    Los Angeles Lakers guard Lonzo Ball has a torn meniscus in his left knee, league sources tell Yahoo. Ball is expected to be ready for training camp next season.

  • NBA4ever

    NBA4ever 1:08 AM on June 23, 2018 Permalink  

    I’d love to know my fellow Lakerholic’s story…

    I know my grandparents were born in Mexico in 1898 and 1906 and from there my mother (an anchor baby) was a 1st generation American born in King City California in 1943 where she helped countless immigrant children assimilate and contribute to our great nation and the development of the Salinas Valley. My father’s parents came from descendents from Scotland and the Netherlands with my grandpa serving his life to the US Army and Fort Hunter Ligget- and my father was also born in King City in 1943 who served in the Air Force and his community with ethical integrity.

    My family “infested” America in the early 20th century…

    When did your family “Infest” America?

    • Seely_Iggy (Director)

      Seely_Iggy (Director) 7:01 AM on June 23, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

    • Magicman (Editor)

      Magicman (Editor) 12:21 PM on June 23, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Thank you for sharing, Sean.

      My Family came in on the American Side first then Immigrated to Canada.

      Their friends and family wrote each other and spoke of the discrimination they faced being Irish in America. Being spit at, having projectiles thrown at you, Rocks, Glass, Stones.

      Couldn’t apply for work. Nobody would hire you.

      You were allowed to fight in their Civil War. :)

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 12:58 PM on June 23, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      For my father and grandfather, America was Gold Mountain. My grandfather, whom I never met, came to America and worked as a coolie building railroads and sending money back to China. Not much different from migrant workers from Mexico do today.

      Long after my father had returned to China, my father got an opportunity to take the place of an 11-year old cousin his same age who had unexpectedly died. My father took his place and became one of six brothers working in the family Chinese restaurant in Janesville, Wisconsin. Thus, my father’s family is really our paper family.

      My mother was daughter of 3rd generation English and German farm families who settled in Wisconsin. She dropped out of high school and went to work as a waitress in my dad’s paper family’s Chinese restaurant and the rest is history.

      Meanwhile, my sister married a Mexican national our family tree has sprouted another branch. My immigrant story has one final wrinkle. After my mom died 30 years ago, my dad decided he had had enough of Western women and sent away to the village he grew up in Canton for a recently widowed women to bring over and marry. Jade came over with her two kids, same age is my son, and took loving care of my dad until he passed last year. All total, my family has ad over 15 family members immigrate to America in my lifetime.

      Good thread, Sean. America will always be Gold Mountain to the Wongs.

    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 1:59 PM on June 23, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      The Sweet’s first infested the US of A in 1620 in Rhode Island. We fought for the North in the Civil War in the form of one Olney F Sweet, a private artillery man. His diaries recounting his experience can be read in a book our family published called ‘What the Private Saw’.
      We’ve steadily moved west settling in California before it was California in what is now Long Beach, CA. The house Olney died in is still standing and sits just three blocks from the theatre I helped start. An unintended coincidence. The Sweets have generally been liberals who enjoy open spaces and wild experiences.

      On my Mom’s side (the Bakers) we have much more conservative icons. My Mom could be a Daughter of the Confederacy (and sister and now my daughter) and my great, great, great Grandfather on her side is Sam Houston. Her dad, my grandpa, was the County Controler for Orange County back in the 50s and 60s paving the way for Disneyland to be built and the Angels to re-locate south from LA.

      As a 5th generation Californian I am proud of how our state represents itself, especially in these troubling, racially antagonistic times. Hope everyone found time to donate to one of the many NGOs aiding migrant families or went to one of the many marches around the country condemning the actions of this increasingly fascist administration.

    • DJ2KB24

      DJ2KB24 4:10 PM on June 23, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Nice NBA.

  • NBA4ever

    NBA4ever 1:52 PM on June 21, 2018 Permalink  

    Lakers rebuffed by Spurs during call about Kawhi Leonard 

    The Los Angeles Lakers contacted the San Antonio Spurs after Kawhi Leonard’s public trade request last week but immediately felt the Spurs had no intention of engaging in any dialogue, sources close to the situation told ESPN.

    As one Lakers source put it, “They basically shut the door on us.”

    No players were discussed and as ESPN’s Adrian Wojnarowski reported Thursday, there has been no further dialogue between the teams.

    Leonard has expressed a preference to be traded to Los Angeles, specifically the Lakers.

    However when the Lakers called to express interest in Leonard, they were given the distinct impression the Spurs had no interest in doing business with them, according to sources.

    Spurs coach Gregg Popovich traveled Tuesday to Southern California and met with Leonard prior to Thursday’s NBA draft, league sources told ESPN.

    For weeks, Popovich has been working to set up a meeting with Leonard to discuss the issues that have fractured the franchise’s relationship with the All-NBA forward and caused him to make public his desire to be traded, league sources said.

    Leonard had told confidants that he did not want to sit down with Popovich and has made it difficult for the Spurs to reach him recently. Among the issues, Leonard is angry over what he believes was the Spurs’ mishandling of his quad injury, and he remains irate about public comments from teammate Tony Parker and Popovich that he felt were not supportive of him, league sources said.

    Leonard will eventually alert rival teams considering trades for him that his intention is to sign in Los Angeles when he can become a free agent in 2019, league sources said.

    • Seely_Iggy (Director)

      Seely_Iggy (Director) 2:56 PM on June 21, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      We will REMEMBER this. The Lakers always pays its debts.

      • DJ2KB24

        DJ2KB24 3:06 PM on June 21, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        “You betcha,” oops, I really mean, yes, absolutely. Sorry for the old Palin reference. : )

        • Seely_Iggy (Director)

          Seely_Iggy (Director) 4:51 PM on June 21, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          No worries, mate. I don’t bring politics to this board.

    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 3:05 PM on June 21, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      No reason for them to do anything at all. Certainly no reason to trade him to us, or any team in the western conference. Better offers out there to be had, as well

      • DJ2KB24

        DJ2KB24 3:08 PM on June 21, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Hey JS, that’s what I am trying to figure out, are any of our kids really any good or am I just drinking the Laker kool-aid?

        • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

          Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 3:22 PM on June 21, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          They are good and we’re drinking the Kool-Aid. It’s not so much what we may or may not offer but more that the Spurs have until February to either:
          -convince Leonard to stay
          -or trade him.

          There is absolutely no impetus for them to make a move now except that it would make Laker fans happy which, I’m fairly certain, isn’t in either Pop’s or RC Buford’s job descriptions.

          Boston has more picks in better draft position, a major key in facilitating a quick rebuild as I’m also sure Pop doesn’t want to embark on a five-year mission to make the Spurs relevant, again, as we are currently on.

          Clippers have some interesting parts and pieces but nothing as slam dunk as we could throw in, should we choose to make the deal for 3 youngins. I am of the opinion that most laker fans would rather we cap it at Ingram and Hart, or something to that effect. That’s a light haul, even if we toss in a 1st round pick. Other teams can do better and, as we may see with OKC, the lure of playing in LA may end up second fiddle to actually winning and the burden of not turning the franchise around is a palpable one.

    • mclyne32 (Director) 4:19 PM on June 21, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      F them.
      Have fun in rebuild mode you A holes.

  • NBA4ever

    NBA4ever 12:02 PM on June 21, 2018 Permalink  

    Dwight Howard wants ‘opportunity to help team win’ 

    Eight-time NBA All-Star Dwight Howard and the Brooklyn Nets have agreed to enter into buyout talks for his $23.8 million expiring contract.

    “I want to be in a situation where I have an opportunity to help a team win,” Howard said Thursday during a phone interview. “That’s my only goal. All I need is a real chance and a clean slate where it’s not people talking about my past.”

    A buyout will allow the 6-foot-11 center to hit free agency this summer. Howard, 32, will ultimately be one of the top free-agent big men on the market and contending teams will have interest.

    I know he’s a clown but…. MLE?

  • NBA4ever

    NBA4ever 1:43 AM on June 9, 2018 Permalink  

    The Coolest :( 

  • NBA4ever

    NBA4ever 8:03 PM on May 27, 2018 Permalink  

    Mt Rushmore

    Russell Kareem MJ LeBron

  • NBA4ever

    NBA4ever 7:48 PM on May 25, 2018 Permalink  

    Who is the 2nd best player in the league? Whoever you pick… imagine what LeBron could do with their team?

    Replace Durant with Lebron and they win 70+ and the ring every year.

    Replace Harden with Lebron and Houston wins the ring.

    Replace Westbrook
    Replace Kyrie
    Anthony Davis

    He is unreal

    • DJ2KB24

      DJ2KB24 8:20 PM on May 25, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      “Momma there goes THAT man!”

    • Magicman (Editor)

      Magicman (Editor) 11:09 AM on May 27, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Couldn’t agree more.

      At 33, he’s leading league in MPG in Reg and Post seasons. No teammate is averaging more than 10 PPG and the best facilitator outside LBJ is a merger 2.2 per game.

      Like DJ said, kicking and screaming he’s on a mission

  • NBA4ever

    NBA4ever 10:22 AM on May 1, 2018 Permalink  

    Inside the tension between Kawhi Leonard and the Spurs 

    It’s a longggggg article but if you want the best insight into the Kawhi saga…

    SAN ANTONIO — He slipped into the frame quietly. Attention was the last thing Kawhi Leonard wanted on this day, or really any day. But the San Antonio Spurs were taking their team picture and everyone in the organization needed to be there, in uniform and smiling, if only to prove they were indeed part of the team this year.

    Leonard had been back in San Antonio for a few weeks by the morning of March 21. Several of his Spurs teammates had seen him working out in the team’s facility. But picture day was the first time many had seen him in uniform since Jan. 13, the last of the nine games he played in this season.

    “It was very brief,” Spurs veteran guard Manu Ginobili said afterward. “But good to see him around.”

    The mystery surrounding Leonard and the right quadriceps injury that essentially cost him the entire season has fascinated and frustrated the entire league. Leonard has spoken publicly only a few times this season, and his statements did little to answer any of the larger questions his protracted absence raised.

    On March 7, he said the injury and his current pain level were “hard to explain” but that “obviously I’m a competitor and if I could play, I would play.” He didn’t volunteer any of his feelings about the Spurs, or how they’d managed the situation. But when asked directly if he could see himself finishing his career with the Spurs, Leonard said, “Yeah, for sure.”


    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 12:54 PM on May 1, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Great piece.

      • mud

        mud 1:58 PM on May 1, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        yep, it’s obvious that Kahwi is not ok, that this is not just a spat about doctors.

        also, he’s not necessarily “one of the 5 best players in the league”, although he’s definitely up there.

        • mud

          mud 1:58 PM on May 1, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          “obviously I’m a competitor and if I could play, I would play.”

      • therealhtj

        therealhtj 4:32 PM on May 1, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Man I can’t wait for the follow up in a few years where Kawhi and Uncle Dennis lock horns in civil court with Reggie Bush’s stepdad as Dennis’ character witness.

  • NBA4ever

    NBA4ever 7:34 PM on April 26, 2018 Permalink  

    Jordan Shaq Kobe Lebron Giannis Antetokounmpo 

    Jordan -Shaq -Kobe -Lebron

    Giannis Antetokounmpo

    • p ang

      p ang 7:58 PM on April 26, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      He has to get pass Anthony Davis first.

    • NBA4ever

      NBA4ever 8:06 PM on April 26, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Did I miss something? What has AD accomplished? He’s not the undisputed best player in the league. Durant & Curry are ahead of him but neither are “that guy”. Only the guys I mentioned have been the Undisputed Best Player in the league since 1990.

      Antetokounmpo next undisputed best player in the league.

      • Magicman (Editor)

        Magicman (Editor) 8:39 PM on April 26, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        To be fair, AD has taken the Pels as far as CP3 ever took them and he’s been more dominant doing it.

        And CP3 is a HOF player. And it could be argued AD is the best player that Franchise has ever produced so…

        • NBA4ever

          NBA4ever 9:47 PM on April 26, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          I’m not taking anything away from AD and no doubt he will be a HOF. I think people are missing my point.

          Antetokounmpo next undisputed best player in the league. Of course that is just a bold statement as he has a long ways to go. AD could be that guy but both have a long way to go with variables they can’t control.

      • p ang

        p ang 10:27 PM on April 26, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Yes, you did miss something.

        AD can do everything Antetounmpo can do AND he can actually shoot the ball.

        • GDUBinDC

          GDUBinDC 12:32 AM on April 27, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Giannis didn’t shoot it too bad last night.

        • NBA4ever

          NBA4ever 9:04 AM on April 27, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          There are a lot of things AD can’t do and never will be able to do that Giannis does.

          • GDUBinDC

            GDUBinDC 3:37 PM on April 27, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Perhaps, but does it really matter? Would u feel bad if u were a GM and u ended up with AD instead of Giannis? IJS

    • GDUBinDC

      GDUBinDC 12:29 AM on April 27, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      It’s all subjective, this is just one fan’s opinion … it’s certainly not ‘undisputed’.

      • NBA4ever

        NBA4ever 9:06 AM on April 27, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Not at this point and we may not have an “undisputed” best player in the league for another decade. But Jordan was the undisputed best player in the league, Shaq was, Kobe was, and LeBron is at the moment. I’m just making a prediction. I would love to see both of them rise to that level and battle it out in the Finals like Magic and Bird.

        • GDUBinDC

          GDUBinDC 3:34 PM on April 27, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          They’re both young and extremely talented. They’re both quick, agile and lonnnnng.

          And perhaps most importantly, they’re both alotta fun to watch. At least for me they r.

  • NBA4ever

    NBA4ever 2:06 PM on April 25, 2018 Permalink  

    therealhtj 11:06 AM on April 25, 2018Permalink | Reply

    “Sadly, it’s gotten to the point where every borderline capable starter or with potential to be so wants a max deal. The teams need to control themselves or they’re all screwed.”

    I hope we don’t make one of these mistakes

    Paul Millsap, PF $31,269,231 Overpaid “star”
    Blake Griffin, PF $29,727,900 Overpaid injury prone
    Mike Conley, PG $28,530,608 Overpaid period and injury prone
    Carmelo Anthony, $26,243,760 Overpaid and overvalued years ago
    Damian Lillard, PG $26,153,057 Overpaid for no accomplishments
    Jrue Holiday, PG $25,686,667 Overpaid before this playoff
    Otto Porter Jr., SF $24,773,250 Overpaid PERIOD
    CJ McCollum, SG $23,962,573 Overpaid too soon
    Andre Drummond, $23,775,506 Overpaid for no accomplishments
    Bradley Beal, SG $23,775,506 Overpaid for 2nd option
    Chandler Parsons, $23,112,004 WTF WTF
    Harrison Barnes, $23,112,004 Overpaid for 3rd option
    JJ Redick, SG $23,000,000 Overpaid….but I get why
    Brook Lopez, $22,642,650 Overpaid for no rebounds and limited D
    DeAndre Jordan, $22,642,350 Overpaid for a guy you can’t play in crunch
    Kevin Love, $22,642,350 Overpaid for 3rd option that is injury prone
    Steven Adams, $22,471,910 Overpaid for a serviceable cente
    Nicolas Batum, $22,434,783 Overpaid for a utility role player
    Victor Oladipo, $21,000,000 Overpaid for a small guard
    Danilo Gallinari, $20,559,599 Overpaid for injury prone floor spreader
    Serge Ibaka, PF $20,061,729 Overpaid Period
    George Hill, PG $20,000,000 WTF WTF
    Ryan Anderson, $19,578,455 WTF WT

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 2:14 PM on April 25, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      The 2016 jump in the cap skews alotta these numbers.

      • keen observer

        keen observer 2:52 PM on April 25, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Huge factor. The Lakers obviously should have done nothing in hindsight rather than signing Deng and Mozgov. The pressure of competing soon and Jim/Mitch saving their jobs overwhelmed them. This is by far the worst thing they did during their tenure, but then again it laid the groundwork for the team the Lakers have now. Magic and Rob have done a surprisingly excellent job retooling thus far.

    • therealhtj

      therealhtj 2:33 PM on April 25, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Teams are too worried about losing guys for nothing, so they overpay. I’d have just about let every one of these aforementioned guys walk before paying them anything resembling that sort of money. The way the league is set up, you’re better off being a basement dweller hoping to strike gold in the draft than to waste money on mid tier guys that give you a 2nd round ceiling on a good year.

      The league has two choices, free market system that the podunk owners will go to the mattresses to avoid, or an NFL-style non guaranteed system that you’d have to lock out the players for probably two seasons to get them to cave. Neither side is willing to leave the arenas dark for more than 20-30 games max.

      Otherwise, you have to count on desperate GM’s to not overreach on marginal guys, which hasn’t ever happened as long as I’ve been watching. The Spurs had a nice thing going when you had TD, TP, and Manu willing to take a haircut to stay winning, but Kawhi ain’t cut from that cloth. Lebron and them gave a little back to play together, but now he’s all about max or nothing.

      The players put criteria on the super max deals, but I don’t see them limiting the ability of guys to get overpaid. I wouldn’t be opposed to if you didn’t play over 50 games/season and hit certain performance benchmarks, you shouldn’t get more than 15% of the cap. You could argue dudes might statpad, but hey, at least they’re trying.

      There are whole herds of strippers throughout NBA Cities keeping their kids fed on the backs of these overpaid scrubs. They ain’t about to let that gravy train stop rolling.

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 3:16 PM on April 25, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Sean, I thought you were still talking about centers so made the following comments, which I thought were pertinent to the discussions we had been having over Capela and our need for a center.

      As to your point about overpaid players on that list, right on and mostly due to teams totally screwing up the cap jump in 2016.

      Anyway, here’s my response about centers and their salaries and worth:


      While the cap jump certainly can be seen in these numbers, claiming that everybody on the list is overpaid only shows you don’t value the importance of the center in the modern game as much as general managers do. When everybody is overpaid, it probably means you’re undervaluing them and the amount they’re getting is really what the market value is.

      I think the center position is on the verge of becoming the position of opportunity in my mind, meaning it’s the position that is going to suddenly become more important because of a great crop of young mobile, athetic modern centers who can protect the rim and often stretch the floor, a position that the Warriors right now don’t dominate, although it was a crime how they stole Jordan Bell without a pick. Centers will restore balance to guard dominant league.

      Anyway, the Sixers, Jazz, Wolves, Rockets, and Pelicans have modern centers that are going to swing some of the game back to the front court. If anything, I think centers are going to become more valuable. At some point, you’re going to need a great center to get by Embiid and the Sixers. I think the Warriors’ Jordan Bell is going to keep the Warriors in front of the center evolution. The Lakers are going to woe the day they let JB get by. Tate and I were all in on him all of last year after watching him play in the Pac 12.

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