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  • mud

    mud 11:35 AM on January 26, 2017 Permalink  

    suicide watch day 24…

    458 dead. 1582 injured.
    the Buss family goes on trial for manslaughter next month.

    9325 lawsuits against the Lakers for responsibility regarding massive nervous breakdowns have been filed so far…

     
  • mud

    mud 5:16 PM on January 23, 2017 Permalink  

    suicide watch day 21…

    362 dead. 1021 injured.
    the Buss family goes on trial for manslaughter next month.

    5125 lawsuits against the Lakers for responsibility regarding massive nervous breakdowns have been filed so far…

     
  • mud

    mud 9:55 PM on January 3, 2017 Permalink  

    didn’t blow the lead!

     
  • mud

    mud 10:18 PM on December 29, 2016 Permalink  

    suicide watch….

     
  • mud

    mud 10:53 AM on December 28, 2016 Permalink  

    all this sadness over last nights game is just DUMB. no it’s STOOPIT.

    the Jazz are a legitimate playoff contender and a dark horse for champion(the horse is really dark). the Jazz played two A-list stars(not super stars) in Gobert and Hayward. they have an aging b-list superstar in Joe Johnson and an a-list role man in Diaw. they have several perimeter first-class defenders. they are one of the top defensive teams in the league.

    the Lakers have only a-list role players in Williams, Deng and Young and well, Mozgov(he’d be a real contributor on a contender). everyone else is young and green.

    still, the Lakers gave the Jazz all they could handle last night, and it’s easy to say that if a couple of guys just shot as well as they normally do, the Lakers would have dispatched the Jazz last night.

    the world is not ending. there IS a bright future. it’s not guaranteed, but it’s not just imaginary either.

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 11:12 AM on December 28, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Well said, Mud. While the outcome was disappointing, it was understandable. Gordon Hayward was really the difference maker and the Jazz are where the Lakers could be in a couple of years. There were positive signs even in this disappointed loss. Deng has been playing great and this was one of his best games. The fact that we hung with the Jazz with Russell and Young shooting blanks says a lot for this team. This is just another step in a long journey back to relevance.

      • mud

        mud 11:18 AM on December 28, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        yeah, that journey could be MUCH faster if the Lakers didn’t have to deal with a salary cap like back in the old days of Dr. Buss.

    • AK27

      AK27 9:16 PM on December 28, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      A soul-crushing defeat, I tell ya..

  • mud

    mud 2:15 PM on December 25, 2016 Permalink  

    once more Golden State falls short….

    will they rebound or regress?

     
    • DJ2KB24

      DJ2KB24 2:39 PM on December 25, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I dunno, but they gonna be playin Volleyball with Cavs for the next 3 years or so.

    • GDUBinDC

      GDUBinDC 2:52 PM on December 25, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Dubs beat themselves with all those careless TOs they committed, especially Draymond. SMH

      I’m sure Coach Kerr is gonna give ’em an earful about it.

      • tate793

        tate793 5:21 PM on December 25, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Who woulda thunk you could shoot 38% from the field, and beat the GSWs who shot 48%?

        • GDUBinDC

          GDUBinDC 6:19 PM on December 25, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Exactly, tate … all those careless TOs led to too many unearned possessions for the Cavs that allowed them to mount that late comeback IMO.

        • mud

          mud 10:18 PM on December 25, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          analytics.

  • mud

    mud 4:41 PM on December 23, 2016 Permalink  

    the real problem with these Lakers is their softness. the Lakers should be delivering punishment, with elbows knees and even fists if needed, technicals be damned. it’s not about hurting the other teams, but teams know that the Lakers will flinch if the game gets rough. the Lakers need to be dishing instead of taking and they may need to do it for months. other teams shouldn’t feel this comfortable. no layups, even if it means ejection. period. i mean, if you’re going to be called for fouls, they might as well count.

     
    • mud

      mud 4:45 PM on December 23, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Kobe, Fish, Shaq, Horry Fox, Riley, Scott, etc all gave more than they took.

      • DJ2KB24

        DJ2KB24 4:46 PM on December 23, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        True.

        • mud

          mud 4:47 PM on December 23, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          who’s the enforcer on this team?
          that’s what they are missing, someone to rattle teeth.
          that’s why they are losing.

          • DJ2KB24

            DJ2KB24 4:49 PM on December 23, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Metta don’t play no more.

            • mud

              mud 9:07 PM on December 23, 2016 Permalink

              Metta can’t. the league wouldn’t stand for the slightest incident.

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 6:30 PM on December 23, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Seems like they need some mental toughness more than the physical variety..

      • mud

        mud 9:08 PM on December 23, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        no, they need physical toughness as much as mental toughness. of course, physical toughness comes from mental toughness.

    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 12:54 AM on December 24, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Toughness was a quality we saw earlier in the season. This early schedule is particularly brutal and the lads feel under prepared in the conditioning sense. Mentally and physically. They are only lads, but the growth factor from this year to last feels a bit lacking. One should bear in mind that it is also Luke and this staff’s first year together so weathering a storm is, in a way, new to everyone.

  • mud

    mud 9:41 PM on December 12, 2016 Permalink  

    the only thing exceeding the youngsters incompetence today is the incompetence of the game’s officials.

     
  • mud

    mud 10:05 PM on November 18, 2016 Permalink  

    the Lakers made a lot of mistakes and they still were in the game until the end. i’m satisfied. what we had been seeing of the tenacity of this team is real. everyone knows that the Spurs will make you pay for every mistake. still, if the Lakers executed just a little better, they would have won. the main advantage that the Spurs have, and the thing that keeps this Lakers team from being on the Spurs’ level, is consistency. the Spurs are consistently aggressive.

    the Lakers will be one of the better teams sooner than later if this game is the measuring stick. i think it will “spur” them on deeper into good team ball.

     
  • mud

    mud 9:38 PM on November 12, 2016 Permalink  

    http://www.spectrumsportsnet.com/lakers/videos/20161112/lakers-vs-pelicans-clarkson-post

    http://www.spectrumsportsnet.com/lakers/videos/20161112/lakers-vs-pelicans-luke-walton-post

     
  • mud

    mud 9:49 PM on November 8, 2016 Permalink  

    they got smoked…

     
    • GDUBinDC

      GDUBinDC 9:51 PM on November 8, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      The Mavs served up a heaping helping of humble pie. Might be good for the youngsters in the long run … now they have to prove they can bounce back.

      Gonna have to prove they can get stops and buckets when they need ’em most tho cuz they sure couldn’t tonight.

    • Magic Phil

      Magic Phil 9:55 PM on November 8, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I miss Larry…Badly

    • GDUBinDC

      GDUBinDC 9:58 PM on November 8, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Oh, and BTW, I remember some here who swore Harrison Barnes couldn’t be an effective player without riding on the coattails of Steph, Klay, and Dray. Guess he proved them all wrong … he’s averaging around 20 a game so far.

      • mud

        mud 10:00 PM on November 8, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        yeah, he was the smoker…

        • GDUBinDC

          GDUBinDC 10:11 PM on November 8, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          And Steph’s baby brother did a good amount of damage, too.

          • mud

            mud 10:40 PM on November 8, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            yes, so did that durned Barea.
            i think it was Barnes that really made it hurt. that and the kids dumb mistakes…

            • GDUBinDC

              GDUBinDC 10:41 PM on November 8, 2016 Permalink

              True, JJ hit quite a number of timely shots last night. Still a crafty old vet.

      • AK27

        AK27 10:16 PM on November 8, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        What is this, a prediction contest ? You gonna reveal other people’s record but say nuthin’ abt yer own ?? :D

        • GDUBinDC

          GDUBinDC 10:43 PM on November 8, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Who, moi?

        • GDUBinDC

          GDUBinDC 11:01 PM on November 8, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          I’ll admit, I definitely agreed with others here that he wasn’t a max player, but I never believed he couldn’t be a very good player without Steph and the gang.

    • mclyne32 (Director) 10:25 PM on November 8, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Bad loss against a bad team.
      I guess Luke doesn’t want to double A guy who is dominating his entire squad.
      At least Russel got his shot back before that stupid foul was called on him for nothing.

  • mud

    mud 10:06 PM on November 6, 2016 Permalink  

    Randle 1 on 1 with Chandler…

     
  • mud

    mud 9:17 PM on November 6, 2016 Permalink  

    above .500 with a winning streak.

    cool!

     
    • tate793

      tate793 11:19 PM on November 6, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I like how we handled adversity. LNJr’s concussion, Randle, Russell’s shooting woes throughout most of the game, missed free throws, lead trimmed down to the nubs. We held our mud and pulled out the win. Many teams would have wilted, but the guys fought it out. I think DLo learned a little more about one’s self confidence.

      • mud

        mud 11:22 PM on November 6, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        i can’t argue with any of that. when they continue to do the right thing, even after mistakes, it’s easy to be optimistic.

      • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

        Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 7:52 AM on November 7, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Randle had shooting trouble? Maybe you meant Deng’s continued ‘meh’ contributions? I thought Julius was phenomenal last night from start to finish.

  • mud

    mud 11:19 AM on November 3, 2016 Permalink  

    Lakers fans can learn a lot from Cubs fans. they stayed loyal to their team through 108 years of futility. God forbid that it takes 108 years for the next Lakers championship, though…

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 11:56 AM on November 3, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I wouldn’t count on it, mud. It appears most of the Lakers fans on this blog are waiting for another poor performance so they can pile on. Nobody is interested in celebrating a great performance or win. Those are just false dawns to them. They’re waiting for the next loss.

      • John M.

        John M. 12:10 PM on November 3, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        If some fans can’t recognize the team is improving, and the worst stretch in history is over, they should find another object for their affections. As mud stated, being a fan has its ups and downs. I think this team has an excellent chance of being great, and sooner than most of us thought.

        • AK27

          AK27 12:50 PM on November 3, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          I have never quite understood how the attitude of such individuals interferes with those who are optimistic…

          • keen observer

            keen observer 1:10 PM on November 3, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            It’s simple to understand. Stupidity and greed is annoying.

            The collision of the 2011 CBA, the highest payroll in the league, an aging team who just went through a championship run and the CP3 nixing should have woken everyone up. Sure, there have been missteps, but the first one was a gamble that nearly everyone agreed with (Dwight, Nash) and thus far the draft picks that were traded away have reaped nothing. I do think that the front office should have re-signed Kent Bazemore and Ed Davis and should never have pursued Melo and Aldridge, but on the flip side we wound up with our young core and notice to future free agents that the Lakers cherish their stars. Life is a balancing act and because it wasn’t our time and it was likely that we would go through our worst stretch in history, there’s a nice framework in place, so let’s enjoy it. The chips will come soon enough!

            • AK27

              AK27 2:19 PM on November 3, 2016 Permalink

              It’s not annoying to me ‘cuz the attitude of other fans just doesn’t diminish the way I enjoy the team..these things usually devolve into silly arguments with the optimistic ones calling out the ‘Debbie Downers’ and the latter calling the former “delusional” or “unable to face the truth”, each convinced that their version absolutely is the truth…

              As for your recounting of facts, the Nth iteration doesn’t make the inference any stronger…to be clear, I am not too hard on the FO cuz there is much I remain unaware of but I am not gonna tell folks to find other teams to root for or have weekly conniptions about “impatient/ungrateful fans” either…it’s not as if they are just being irrational…like you noted, there have been definite missteps; the consecutive, poor coaching hires, firing of key personnel for no apparent reason, the timing ( not the amount ) of Kobe extension were among the moves I wasn’t a fan of…I have always liked Nash but wasn’t as thrilled as others with the signing cuz the team after major changes ( and Dwight on the mend ) was unlikely to win right away and I wasn’t sure if he had enough good years left for the signing to realize it’s potential…his aging body was a concern and he certainly wasn’t gonna help with our defensive woes (apparent in the sweep against the Mavs)…I am not sure why you consider the fate of the traded picks as evidence that there was no lost value…why would their choices define a ceiling for what our FO could have done with the picks ?

              Comments like ” it wasn’t our time and it was likely that we would go through our worst stretch in history” represent general truths but don’t really offer much ( besides a way to reconcile oneself with what has already happened ) in specific situations when you’re trying to support claims as strong as “this is just how it was gonna be no matter what the FO did, you simply can’t see it”…

              , there’s a nice framework in place, so let’s enjoy it. The chips will come soon enough!

              I pretty much agree with this even though I am a lil more cautious in my optimism..

            • keen observer

              keen observer 4:38 PM on November 3, 2016 Permalink

              Amit: Comments like ” it wasn’t our time and it was likely that we would go through our worst stretch in history” represent general truths but don’t really offer much.

              If you are capable of understanding history and cycles and where we were at then, you shouldn’t need to be “offered much.”

              I have gone over the past 5 seasons in repetitive minutiae, but I can’t help it if certain people refuse to accept hard facts. Leveling empty criticisms on the front office (Jim Buss, in particular) without even considering the major issues is just flat out ignorant and the result IS impatient, ungrateful, uneducated, stubborn “whyning” fans who make the rest of us look like idiots. Give me the appreciative, educated, grateful Cubs fan any day.

            • AK27

              AK27 4:42 PM on November 3, 2016 Permalink

              Lol…yeah…only a fool would think that “history and cycles” makes for adequate explanation for a claim like yours….are you dense enough to think that the “facts” you laid out are a revelation ? everybody knows ’em…it STILL doesn’t mean that things could only have turned out the way they did ‘cuz , well, “history and cycles” …..

            • keen observer

              keen observer 6:48 PM on November 3, 2016 Permalink

              LOL. That’s great. Claims? Facts aren’t claims, you buffoon. It’s buffoons like you who choose to ignore them.

            • AK27

              AK27 12:49 AM on November 4, 2016 Permalink

              Oh brother…the fool still thinks his “facts” are being disputed….is reading -comprehension too much to ask ? I just said that they are common knowledge….your INFERENCE from the aforementioned facts is what’s being questioned…do you not know what that word means ?

              things could only have turned out the way they did, so don’t blame the FO

              This is the what you have shared time and again when lambasting fans for being critical of the FO…it simply is not a fact but a claim that would require laying out every conceivable alternative and showing how it couldn’t have been achieved regardless of any difference in the FO’s decisions… any ol’ dummy knows that ‘history and cycles” is generally applicable even to complex systems all and sundry…the hard part is in predicting the extent and timing of such movements…if that weren’t true, fools would become asset managers with “what goes up must come down” as the sum total of their knowledge…

              your obsession with the behavior of other fans used to be entertaining..now it’s just pathetic..how wretched does your life have to be if you are constantly troubled by something as insignificant as that ? Lol

            • mud

              mud 1:14 AM on November 4, 2016 Permalink

              i love how your main joy is arguing. i salute you for the level of competition that you bring. you don’t like others criticizing various guys, but you also rarely miss an opportunity to attack your pet peeves, yourself. i know that the biggest reason that you are on this forum is to offer opinions about the Lakers and share information, of course, so no problem there..

              please continue. i have popcorn. you can use me for fodder if need be. i’ve got to be a person that you can beat, so rest assured…

            • AK27

              AK27 2:08 AM on November 4, 2016 Permalink

              Well, I don’t shy away from arguments but the “main joy” would be learning a thing or two every now and then from folks here and injecting a bit of humor when I can ( the attempts do so fall flat more often than I would like ’em to :D )..there’s is something very satisfying about making ppl laugh..oh and the music shared here is usually top notch..

              you don’t like others criticizing various guys

              Not sure who you’re referring to here ( players/blog members/journalists ?)…I suppose if I have a pet peeve, it would be unwarranted , repetitive attacks or intolerance of others’ opinions…I do tend to respond to that … as for this particular instance, do you see my original response as an attack ? see Keen’s comments and you can probably understand why the subsequent comments were a tad more..contentious Lol

              you also rarely miss an opportunity to attack your pet peeves

              I don’t comment often enough for that but the abundance of said “opportunities” might make my reactions seem..frequent..

              you can use me for fodder if need be. i’ve got to be a person that you can beat, so rest assured…

              Beat you.. at what ? what’s at stake here, mud ? :) these comparisons seem to often be on your mind in some form or the other but they don’t matter to me…

              As always, your input is appreciated :)

    • DJ2KB24

      DJ2KB24 12:07 PM on November 3, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      They have Theo Epstein and we don’t. This man revitalized the Boston Red Sox into annual pennant hunts. Can we follow, would be wonderful. Not sure I can wait 108 years though, lol!

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 12:29 PM on November 3, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Cubs fans blindly supported a loser and never demanded anything more from that ownership group. So they kept trotting the same crap onto the field year after year while continuing to rake in the money. Maybe if the fans were a lil bit more demanding they wouldn’t have had to wait a fuggin century for a title. That’s why I never had any sympathy for them..they got what they deserved. I for one am extremely happy that I grew up listening to Chick Hearn who always called it as he saw it and was critical of the team when it was warranted. This organization was getting complacent after Shaq left and trotting out lineups with Smush Parker n Slava Medvedenko as starters. It took Kobe losing his shyte to force the FO off their azz n into making some meaningful moves.

      Laker fans will never be like Cub fans and that’s a GREAT thing because it forces management to always strive for greatness. The declining tv ratings amid the last few years of ineptitude show that the fans ain’t going for that bullshyte…and rightfully so. The last thing I’d ever wanna be associated with is Chicago Cub Fandom.

      • keen observer

        keen observer 1:12 PM on November 3, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        What were they going to do, boycott Wrigley Field? Give me a break. Cubs fans are far superior to Lakers fans and twice as knowledgeable.

      • mud

        mud 2:41 PM on November 3, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        that’s not true at all.

        Cubs fans desperately hoped that the team would do well EVERY year. the Cubs have had MANY great teams, too. things just always seemed to go wrong for them at the worst time.

        Cubs fans have always loved their team regardless, however. that is the difference between fans and frontrunners/bandwaggoners. the latter are the scum of the earth.

        • GDUBinDC

          GDUBinDC 3:47 PM on November 3, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          While I won’t go so far as to refer to them as ‘scum of the earth’, I definitely have lil respect for ‘frontrunners’.

        • John M.

          John M. 3:53 PM on November 3, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          I thought the latter were called “those idiots with seats behind the bench looking at their phones all game.”

          • mud

            mud 3:58 PM on November 3, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            haha, yeah…

            “scum of the earth” is just much more inflammatory…

      • MongoSlade

        MongoSlade 5:02 PM on November 3, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Buncha unemployed drunks watching bad baseball in the middle of the work week!

        https://youtu.be/8S0CDtEz_Bo

        • mud

          mud 5:18 PM on November 3, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          so? he said the same thing about bogus fans.

          he wasn’t much of a manager, though. well, he had the job and i never will….

  • mud

    mud 10:15 AM on October 27, 2016 Permalink  

    ok, Brian Kamenetzky STILL hating on the Lakers and Kobe. Ryan Hollins thinks that Kobe really helped the youngsters by example, but BK says that Kobe has done nothing for them. now, BK is schooling a person WHO ACTUALLY HAD AN NBA CAREER, on the reality of playing in the NBA. he’s telling a guy who actually spent time in an NBA locker room, how people who live in a locker room think. i realize that there’s some devil’s advocacy, but that guy is a big part of the negativity that has followed the team in the last few years. how does he keep a job in LA?

     
    • mclyne32 (Director) 10:20 AM on October 27, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      FOOL.
      Ryan Hollins has forgotten more about NBA basketball than BK has pretended to know.

    • John M.

      John M. 10:31 AM on October 27, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Some folks can’t enjoy the sunshine because they’re thinking about the last time it rained. What’s worse is a few get paid to do so.

    • keen observer

      keen observer 10:39 AM on October 27, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Mark Jackson emphatically echoed Ryan Hollins’ opinion last night very descriptively and he was both a player AND a head coach. Brian Kamenetzky is a notorious Kobe, Jim Buss Hater. He go go f*ck himself.

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 11:16 AM on October 27, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      When I think about it tho, B&AK were around that lockerroom alot more than Hollins or Jackson last season.

      • mud

        mud 11:18 AM on October 27, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        yeah, asking stupid questions and cherry-picking the answers to make things fit their narrative, sure…

        • mud

          mud 11:20 AM on October 27, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          much of what BK was talking about was how
          OTHER locker rooms see the Lakers. Hoillins, who has been in those OTHER locker rooms told BK that BK was incorrect, which BK shot down in mockery. he is an a*s.

      • AK27

        AK27 12:31 PM on October 27, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        :D

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