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  • MongoSlade

    MongoSlade 4:44 PM on June 21, 2017 Permalink |  

     
  • MongoSlade

    MongoSlade 3:35 PM on June 21, 2017 Permalink |  

    So let’s say we get Lebron…at age 34.
    What’s our window with him realistically?
    3 years?

     
    • Magicman (Editor)

      Magicman (Editor) 3:38 PM on June 21, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      He’d be 33 amd yup.

    • Michael H (Editor)

      Michael H (Editor) 3:44 PM on June 21, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Betting the farm on an older player is pretty risky. Kobe was in the MVP conversation at 34, then 3 injuries in 3 years. And Kobe took care of his body better then most. You just don’t know when the miles begin to effect you. Deng played pretty well for the heat and completely fell apart last year. You just never know.

      • Magicman (Editor)

        Magicman (Editor) 3:48 PM on June 21, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        LeBron is an outlier. He hasn’t a significant injury in his career. This man doesn’t get hurt.

      • GDUBinDC

        GDUBinDC 3:49 PM on June 21, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Either way it’s a gamble, but, looks like Magic and Rob have chosen to roll the dice with proven talent as opposed to potential talent, MH.
        We’ll have to wait and see if they chose correctly.

      • mclyne32 (Director) 4:02 PM on June 21, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        It’s a real concern, Michael, and if I were in Magic’s shoes, I might be seeking younger top tier talent first.

      • MongoSlade

        MongoSlade 4:25 PM on June 21, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Yeah..I’m not that concerned about injury…more so the general decline that age inflicts on every other human on the planet.

  • MongoSlade

    MongoSlade 1:31 PM on June 21, 2017 Permalink |  

    DAR an “Alpha-Dog”? 

     
    • Magicman (Editor)

      Magicman (Editor) 1:45 PM on June 21, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Peeps gonna believe what they want, MS.

      Type A personalities recognize Type A.

      Earv sees it in Lonzo. Never saw it in DAngelo.

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 3:04 PM on June 21, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I’m not even sure he knows what Lonzo is yet based on the limited time they’ve spent together. But he knew what DAR WASN’T and that’s why he put him on the 1st thing smokin outta town as soon as somebody said yes.

      • mclyne32 (Director) 3:10 PM on June 21, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Not serious enough about being great.
        Buh Bye!
        Take a look at what Julius has done to his body since last season- he’s working!

      • Magicman (Editor)

        Magicman (Editor) 3:39 PM on June 21, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Made enough of an impression to make D’Angelo the odd man out.

        • DJ2KB24

          DJ2KB24 3:42 PM on June 21, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Say MM, I didn’t see much difference between DAR and Clarky play.

          • Magicman (Editor)

            Magicman (Editor) 3:52 PM on June 21, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Me neither DJ.

            I will say though, Jordan actually was a PG in Mizzou and he can pass the rock and make me believe he can still do that.

            A lot of hype about DLo’s passing. He played 143 games for us, had only two games of 10+ assists. Not Magic like at all, my friend.

            • mclyne32 (Director) 4:11 PM on June 21, 2017 Permalink

              It’s the worst comp I think I have ever heard.
              Kendall Marshall was a much better passer than DAR.

            • Magicman (Editor)

              Magicman (Editor) 4:12 PM on June 21, 2017 Permalink

              Good observation Matt, Kendall was a better passer.

        • MongoSlade

          MongoSlade 4:28 PM on June 21, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          I feel like DAR made himself expendable more than Lonzo did.

  • MongoSlade

    MongoSlade 7:42 PM on June 20, 2017 Permalink |  

    One thing I will say is that absolutely nobody saw that DAR trade coming. That’s why so many of these expert reports & analysis should be taken with a grain of salt. None of these mofos really know what’s happening. But dammit I can’t help it!…lol

     
    • Magicman (Editor)

      Magicman (Editor) 8:08 PM on June 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Brooklyn got something out of this.

      D’Angelo will be compared to these Lottery Picks that the Nets gave away.

    • mclyne32 (Director) 8:26 PM on June 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Well, I for one am going to miss his tough work ethic, his leadership, his defensive intensity, and his humlbeness.

  • MongoSlade

    MongoSlade 7:31 PM on June 20, 2017 Permalink |  

    Make the trade and let’s get on with this thing.

    Not sure what folks think we’re gaining by waiting a year and watching the youngins “develop”. Earv is telling you what direction he’s going by shipping off the so-called leader as fodder in a classic salary dump. He ain’t about that waiting around life…he’s about that gettin shyte done life and that means going hard at free agents next summer. Already having PG in the fold makes that easier. And if he wants optimum cap space then JC and/or Julius will be out the door anyway. Plus you get a year of PG in his prime instead of on the backside.

     
  • MongoSlade

    MongoSlade 4:35 PM on June 20, 2017 Permalink |  

    This… 

     
    • tate793

      tate793 4:53 PM on June 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Magic’s moves are aimed at improving the roster. I doubt if any of it pertains to Jim Buss, personally. If it did, then every GM and every player would be throwibg rotten tomatoes at Jim Buss, right along with a multitude of Laker fans.

      • MongoSlade

        MongoSlade 5:07 PM on June 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Goes hand in hand.

        • tate793

          tate793 5:39 PM on June 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          IJS it’s not like blind agenda as Trump is trying to undo everything Obama accomplished.

        • MongoSlade

          MongoSlade 5:43 PM on June 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Both are true. He didn’t agree with most of the moves Jimmy made during his tenure. So naturally he’s gonna undo them…not necessarily because he just hates Jimmy but because he believes it will help the franchise. Not sure where the disagreement is….

          • tate793

            tate793 5:54 PM on June 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            There is no disagreement.

            • tate793

              tate793 6:01 PM on June 20, 2017 Permalink

              And, I’ll say this as well. Magic not having West as a consultant is totally different than Jim not wanting Phil. I beleve if Magic called West to bounce something off him, the convo would be amicable and productive. In contrast, I believe Phil would have laughed and hung up on Jim, after he told him to go f*ck himself.

  • MongoSlade

    MongoSlade 4:25 PM on June 20, 2017 Permalink |  

     
  • MongoSlade

    MongoSlade 3:43 PM on June 20, 2017 Permalink |  

     
  • MongoSlade

    MongoSlade 3:40 PM on June 20, 2017 Permalink |  

     
  • MongoSlade

    MongoSlade 8:43 PM on June 19, 2017 Permalink |  

    Dude at work asked me…what if PG gets in here this year, doesn’t like it, then looks to bolt next summer? WTF Shleprock!..lol

     
    • Magicman (Editor)

      Magicman (Editor) 8:44 PM on June 19, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      PWND

    • mclyne32 (Director) 9:12 PM on June 19, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I think this is one of the reasons as to why Magic and Rob are trying to do a lot more this summer.

  • MongoSlade

    MongoSlade 8:29 PM on June 19, 2017 Permalink |  

    Here’s what I don’t understand about the “don’t give up any assets for PG!” crowd…if we wait to sign him next summer then we’re gonna have to shed some salary anyway. What’s the difference if we lose Clarkson now or a year from now?

     
    • Magicman (Editor)

      Magicman (Editor) 8:32 PM on June 19, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I really don’t care if it’s now or later for Clarkson. I thought I made that abundantly clear. Guess not. Lol.

    • keen observer

      keen observer 9:12 PM on June 19, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Good point, but it seems like everyone else who has to shed salary to make cap room gets picks for the excess.

    • mclyne32 (Director) 9:14 PM on June 19, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I think this is also the reason as to why some have said that Julius is on the table too.

  • MongoSlade

    MongoSlade 9:08 AM on June 19, 2017 Permalink |  

    The more I look at this thing the more I feel like the timing of it was very intentional. PG is putting pressure on everybody involved to make this trade to the Lakers as soon as possible…at whatever the cost…players, draft picks, whatever. By scorching the earth behind him he’s making it all but impossible to play another season in Indy. Stores are already giving away his jerseys and I guarantee we’ll see fans burning em within the week. He clearly wants outta there right now..not next summer.

    So that puts pressure on the inexperienced Laker front office to make it happen. The right move was to wait for next summer & sign him without giving up any assets. But PG has just forced the issue by transforming the whispers into undeniable fact. The casual fan doesn’t wanna hear about cap space and all the other technical aspects that guys like us obsess over. All they know is we have an all-nba talent standing in the rain outside our window with a boom-box begging us to open the door (Lloyd Dobler style). They wanna see this dude in Purp & Gold right now and don’t really care who we send over (within reason) to get it done.

    Word is the bidding opens at two 1st round picks plus a starting caliber player. Not sure how Clarkson & Brewer fit that bill. Gonna have to up the ante or somehow get another team involved….

     
    • Magicman (Editor)

      Magicman (Editor) 9:16 AM on June 19, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Herb Simon has a House in LA to, he understands this.

      As a businessman, though, what’s in it for him to meet the demands of Paul George?

      By keeping him, you give yourself an opportunity to make additional,money in home playoff games.

      People think Herb is some ill-equipped owner, this situation probably doesn’t even rank in his top 10 in terms of conflict in business deals.

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 10:01 AM on June 19, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Great point, Mongo. I was just listening to Chad Ford on Above the Rim on Sirius XM and he was making same point that Paul George wants Lakers to trade for him now not wait for next year. Ford still likes the #2 pick for PG but I still think it is too much. I agree the Lakers need to trade for PG now. Word is they’re trying to acquire another first rounder to draft more defense and shooting but it could also be to put together with the #28 pick and Clarkson and Nance to trade for PG. But they’re not going to make a bad deal. The other big reason to trade for PG is then they can use their free agent money on two other players.

      The other rumor I heard this morning was the Sixers looking to be third team in a deal between the Cavs and the Pacers. Sixers give Pacers picks, Pacers give Cavs PG, Cavs give Sixers KL. Of course, that is taking a big chance that PG won’t move the Cavs needle much and PG will just go to LA. Risk to Cavs is that LeBron might join him. Problem for Cavs is that is taking a huge risk when you don’t even know if LeBron is going to stay. If the Cavs traded Love for George, they could easily end up with only Kyrie by next summer. Nor do I think PG would be enough to get them past the Dubs. Don’t see the Cavs as a serious threat.

  • MongoSlade

    MongoSlade 3:49 PM on June 18, 2017 Permalink |  

    What a luxury it would be to have an experienced old hand (maybe from West Virginia?) to come in, kick it on the couch in your office (drink in hand), and just bounce ideas off each other at this crucial time.

     
    • tate793

      tate793 4:15 PM on June 18, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Yep. That would be a classic definition of the word “consultant”. Or, “friend”.

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 4:28 PM on June 18, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Don’t know why people can’t let this go. There obviously were reasons why Magic did not want to create a role for Jerry on the Lakers. My guess is it had more with not wanting to complicate the decision making process with a part-time consultant regardless of how qualified that consultant was.

      Or maybe it was West’s sometimes prickly personality. Jerry is a very opinionated and competitive individual. As we found out with Phil, sometimes not an easy person to get along with. His joining the Clippers is telling to me.

      Sometimes, too many chefs in the kitchen aren’t the best way to make big complicated decisions. I think Magic is comfortable with he and Rob running the show and felt they didn’t need the help or complications West might have brought.

      • tate793

        tate793 4:36 PM on June 18, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Still would have been a luxury. “Consultants” can easily come to terms with the parameters of their role. Phil could have provided some wisdom for Jim/Mitch as well. Sometimes one has to be able to discern the difference between wisdom and knowledge in order to make right decisions.

        • LakerTom (Publisher) 4:51 PM on June 18, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Again, you don’t want Magic to do something he obviously did not want to do. It’s hard enough job without someone like Jerry looking over your shoulder on every move. Magic is a big boy and proven smart and savvy executive. With due respect, he doesn’t need Jerry as a mentor.

          • MongoSlade

            MongoSlade 5:59 PM on June 18, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Nobody is saying Magic NEEDs hm…just that it woulda been a nice luxury to have. Nobody in our front office has ever headed up anything like this. ..it’s foolish to think an experienced mind wouldn’t be helpful.

          • tate793

            tate793 6:27 PM on June 18, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            A “consultant” wouldn’t be looking over your shoulder on every move. Everybody needs a mentor. I sat outside of a meeting with Lute Olsen, Jerry Tarkanian and John Wooden. They were smart enough to pick the brain of a wiser one than they. It’s got nothing to do with how big of a boy you are. You’re never too old to learn.

          • LakerTom (Publisher) 6:32 PM on June 18, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            LMAO. Let it go. Magic Johnson does not agree with you and its his decision.

            • MongoSlade

              MongoSlade 7:22 PM on June 18, 2017 Permalink

              I betcha in a quiet moment Magic would admit to himself it would be a nice luxury to have. I know Bob Myers gained a huge benefit from it.

            • tate793

              tate793 7:32 PM on June 18, 2017 Permalink

              So said Jim Buss re Phil.

            • tate793

              tate793 7:37 PM on June 18, 2017 Permalink

              You need to go back to work, Tom. Retirement has made you cantankerous.

            • GDUBinDC

              GDUBinDC 8:39 AM on June 19, 2017 Permalink

              : )

  • MongoSlade

    MongoSlade 8:44 PM on June 17, 2017 Permalink |  

     
  • MongoSlade

    MongoSlade 8:40 PM on June 17, 2017 Permalink |  

    Trading down from #1 is usually successful 

     
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