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  • Michael H (Editor)

    Michael H (Editor) 2:39 PM on June 22, 2019 Permalink |  

    Should have hired Griffin 

    Aloha,

    I’ve been sitting back and digesting the trade and I have come to the conclusion that the biggest mistake this off season will be not hiring Griffin. He was the best available GM out there. And we went up against him with a novice and lost. Rob held all the cards and folded anyway. The Celtics wouldn’t include Tatum which doomed their chances. The Knicks had the better pick but didn’t have any young players as good as BI or Lonzo. Think about this. Jimmy Butler is pushing 30 and will get a max or near max contract. He scored a little over 18 a game, a little over 5 boards, 4 assists and was a solid 67th in individual defensive ranking. BI at 21 averaged a little over 18 a game, a little over 5 boards, 3 assists and a solid 68thin defensive ranking. And when you concider those numbers were even better after January 1st The Knicks had nothing close to that to offer. A very fair offer would have been BI, Lonzo and the 4th pick. Instead we threw in Josh, a couple more 1st round picks and a few trade swaps that dont look like much now but with what probably will be a pretty thin roster talent wise could bite us in the butt if we get a couple of injuries. Josh was a major blow in my book because we will still need depth to win. For me this trade is only good if we win a ring this year. Playoffs don’t matter that much to me because with a couple of good signings we make it anyway. Leave it to Lakers to be the only team to over pay for a star in recent memory.

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 3:26 PM on June 22, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Aloha, Michael.

      I’ve thought about this a lot too and I was also lobbying for the Lakers to hire David Griffin to replace Magic Johnson as our head of basketball operations. There’s no doubt he’s a sharp basketball mind and would have been perfect to head our front office. But that’s water over the dam right now.

      There’s another way to look at the situation that says we might not have been able to pull off a trade for Anthony Davis had the Pelicans NOT hired David Griffin and I think there’s a lot of truth in that statement. Look at what happened with Greg Popovich refusing to trade Kawhi Leonard to us. He actually cut off his nose in spirt of his face just to avoid trading Kawhi to us. That could easily have been what happened had the Pelicans hired somebody who wasn’t as smart or had the credibility that allowed the Pelicans’ owner to give him the authority to make the trade he thought was best. Bottom line, I’m not so sure we would have been able to execute a trade for AD if Pelicans had hired somebody else.

      I also think Rob Pelinka did an excellent job on the trade and really only gave up three talented but unproven young players plus picks that could easily end up not delivering anything of real consequence. I think we have to wait to see how much cap space Rob can deliver and what he does with it. If he lands Kawhi, which I seriously think is in the cards, or spends the money on Brogdon and Green or Beverley and Redick, and we end up keeping Kuzma and re-signing McGee, Bullock, Caruso, and Muscala and pick up a couple of quality vets like Ariza or Morris for the room and Korver and another for the vet minimum, then I think we have a shot to win a championship and Rob Pelinka will be promoted to VP of basketball operations.

    • For whom the bell trolls 3:48 PM on June 22, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      It’s funny that now we have traded our young players everyone is hyping them. Last year they were diminished by the experts at the trade deadline.
      A perfect example are Clarkson and Nance, they have become average at best. BI and Lonzo aren’t all that either. BI was scoring late in the season while essentially ball-hogging.and Ball was having a good game every 3rd game. BI does not rebound and Lonzo can’t shoot and is made of glass.
      Many people point to their winning streak before LBJ got hurt but nobody points out it was the weakest part of the schedule and the win against Golden State on their home floor was not uncommon for the Warriors last year.
      The young team could not beat bottom dwellers and the the Lakers youngsters rarely outplayed their man.
      So good luck Mr. Griffin with our old team, you are going to quickly find out how over-hyped each one is.

      • LakerTom (Publisher) 4:01 PM on June 22, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I don’t think they were overhyped, just young and inconsistent often due to being in and out of the lineup with injuries. They could all have breakout years. But then so could Anthony Davis.

        • keen observer

          keen observer 2:29 AM on June 23, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Anthony Davis is entering the prime of his career with his best years ahead of him. He is the only player in the NBA who we empty the cupboard for. Even if we held back Josh Hart and one of the picks, big deal. Hart’s value would have been to add as a sweetener in another deal to get rid of the remaining young players to open up that third max slot. I can understand why fans are gun shy at this point; last summer we were finally going back to the playoffs and we were let down yet again. Not this time.

          We kept Kuz, whose deal is cheap and who also averaged 18+ points per game in a poor shooting season for him. He meshed well with LeBron, too. I’m glad Griffin went to the Pellies because at least they had someone smart enough to deal with us. Yes, I think we should have gone after Griff, but under the dicey circumstances, Pelinka came through and landed the one guy who has Laker great written all over him. We got our future Hall of Famer big guy, y’all!

          Now comes the fun part for Pelinka because he’s not hamstrung by Magic Johnson’s old school approach. We’ll have veterans who can shoot the three and hit their free throws next season, something the young core struggled with. Yes, those kids will be very good in a few seasons, but it’s winning time again for us and only injuries will stop us unless Pelinka screws up free agency, which I doubt. Now that we have built it, they will come. And we will win.

          • Bad Horse 3:27 AM on June 23, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            My thoughts exactly, very well said!

            And to all of those that Think they Know that the Lakers gave up to much:

            What would todays conversations look like if you found out the Celtics had AD because Rob held out on Josh Hart and a pick?

            Before you say they wouldn’t, remember, you don’t Know that.

            Bottom line is we went up against the Celtics and AD is a Laker. No cigar for Red.

            • LakerTom (Publisher) 8:08 AM on June 23, 2019 Permalink

              Great point, David. It’s mostly the haters who want to continue their rewrite of reality by claiming the Lakers got fleeced. That perception will fade into the sunset as soon as people see AD on the floor with LeBron. The crime would have been missing out on AD like you said. The reality is we got AD for three young players and a bunch of promises that could end up being nada down the road.

            • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

              Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 1:34 PM on June 23, 2019 Permalink

              We got fleeced in the Muscala trade.

              We got schooled when we tried to trade for AD mid-seqason.

              That’s not re-writing history. Re-writing history is when people post or write things about Luke Walton getting fired (he didn’t) and things like that. Having a cost controlled Zubac would have been smart in this scenario that we are currently in since he could have been a prime candidate to either keep for a modest sum or be used in at S&T.

              Rob, should the trade expand, will have basically replicated the Magic and Rob trade from February in that we’ll have put the entire team we have on the block. It was worth it then and it’s worth it now but we didn’t out-fox David Griffin and the notion that either franchise won this trade is to be determined. If we don’t win a banner with AD we will have mortgaged the next 4 seasons of potential.

              To your point Bad Horse my feeling would have been ‘we’ll see where he ends up next summer’ I would have quite pleased indeed if Boston had traded it’s future only to see us sign AD away the following summer. In fact, that was my personal ideal scenario: Ainge goes all in, AD still ends up a Laker. My second ideal scenario would have been to hold onto Ingram, my third was that we would have held onto one of Ball, Hart, Ingram or Kuzma. So, for my part, this was my third best outcome.

              But the one thing no fan should discount was how this trade opened up the rest of our free agency options. Getting AD was akin to signing a great three point shooter and opening up the floor. Leonard was not really a viable option until we traded for AD. Same for a lot of the players we’re hoping to land on vet minimum. Both teams desperately needed this trade to happen or suffer another season of mediocrity and can kicking. Or bad PR, in the case of the Pelicans and the risk of losing a generational talent for a mediocre haul of assets.

              I call it a win/win and lose/lose trade. Both teams got what they wanted, both teams probably made a deal they wish they could have either gotten more or shipped out less and so from that perspective it was a good, fair trade. I, for one, am glad we can move past this part and onto the far more difficult challenge of filling out the roster with viable playoff caliber talent.

    • mclyne32 (Director) 5:36 PM on June 22, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Aloha Michael,
      I completely understand where you’re coming from, but the facts are:
      This trade probably doesn’t even happen if a different, spiteful GM is put in charge of NOLA’S future. I’m with Tom on this one. Quite possibly AD gets traded elsewhere. There was already smoke being leaked from LeBron’s camp that if the Lakers were unable to get a top tier FA, he would want out. Could you imagine what a disaster that would have created?
      I think we had to give up a lot due to Rich Paul showing his hand before the trade deadline. Griffin knew we were desperate to get LeBron help and it was looking like if it wasn’t a trade for AD, it might not be anyone coming.
      As for our players going out: Ingram is the only big loss. Lonzo was overhyped. He missed way too many games for a second year player, didn’t Improve his J, and throughout most of last season, was timid going to the rack. Josh Hart is a good rotational piece that is replaceable.
      We won the trade because we got the star player who’s entering his prime.

    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 1:42 PM on June 23, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Greta post Michael, see my reply to Bad Horse for my feelings on the deal. Hard to see the Lakers not going all in on AD for the sake of LeBron. Not sure he and his camp would be placated with a ‘if only you were all healthy last season’ plan for the summer. The front office needed to look like it has a plan (my jury is still out on that one, I’m waiting to see how Rob fills out the roster). Kinda wish Ainge had gone all in and we signed AD next summer so as to avoid the potential Carmelo to New York scenario but I take comfort in the following:

      -AD is a younger than Melo was when he got traded and his best years are still ahead of him.
      -Melo didn’t have LeBron James in New York.
      -The thing nobody is talking about but which I think is all but assured is: Melo will be a Laker next season.

      It is what it is and honestly the trade had to be made. Jeanie was never going to hire another GM, likely didn’t give it much thought but we’ll lively never know. Seems like she’s content with being a sotr of shadowy over-seer with Linda, Kurt and long distance Phil giving her advice and Rob not demanding autonomy in his decisions.

      • Bad Horse 3:53 PM on June 23, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        We mostly agree. It was a win/win, lose/lose. They never wanted the trade, and we would have loved to be able to wait until next year.

        Seeing the celtics fail will never get old with me. Your first scenario would have been the best. But that was just not going to happen for all of the reasons you listed allready.

        When all is said and done, im just happy we played to win. Happy he is a Laker and not a celtic. Happy our front office, with All of their faults, is working to get it right.

        Here in Pittsburgh, we have the Pirates. Everyone loves them, and hates ownership. They could not be more cheap or more transparent. Always selling the fans on why they cant make moves to improve the team.

        Time will tell if this worked, or not. We can never be certain of what may have happened, had we made other choices. There are simply too many variables.

        So while they are Far from perfect, I appreciate their going all in. Even if it was too much. Im glad AD is a Laker, and I wish the best for those we let go of to get him.

  • Michael H (Editor)

    Michael H (Editor) 1:10 PM on June 9, 2019 Permalink  

    The Cost Of AD. 

    The more I look at it, the more I wonder how much we will actually have to give up for AD. I think the Pelicans blew it by not pulling the trigger at the deadline because I don’t think they will get as much this summer. Now you never know who will come out of the woodwork with an offer. No one expected the Raptors or OKC to make the trades they did. So if you look at the 3 favorites I think the Lakers are in very good shape.

    I think Boston’s chances hinge on what Kyrie does. I think resigning Kyrie was the key the trading for AD. Without Kyrie would AD resign with the Celtics? It doesn’t seem like he will. So how much would the Celtics give up for a rental? I would be really surprised if they traded the farm for him.

    The Knicks have that number 3 pick which in this draft is suppose to be better. But I don’t think any of their young players are as promising as BI or Lonzo. Maybe even Kuz. I would would try and retain either BI or Lonzo. I don’t think that is as far fetched as it appeared a few months ago. If it came down to having to give up both BI and Lonzo there is no way I include Kuz or Josh because I think BI, Lonzo and the 4th is better then the Knicks offer. And Boston? I’m not sure they are prepared to go all in. But Tatum would have to be the center piece. But Tatum didn’t show the growth that was expected, while BI put up all star numbers after the 1st of the year. I think he going to be the better player and he was the tallest shooting guard in the NBA last year. He was a match up nightmare.

    While not having Magic could hurt in free agency not having him around for trades is a good thing. I really don’t think Rob will bid against ourselves. As an agent I think he probably has a better idea of how to negotiate then Magic and it does appear that the trade deadline fiasco was all Magic. So here’s hoping Rob is a better poker player and a cooler head then Magic.

     
    • mclyne32 (Director) 1:33 PM on June 9, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Aloha Michael,
      All of that makes logical sense to me. The one giant illogical entity that exists is the enormous pressure, from every other GM in the NBA, to deny LeBron the chance to be paired up with a top five talent.
      Time will tell if Griffin decides to cave, or take the best deal regardless of the colluding whiners.
      Now, if Ainge decides to gamble big by offering up Tatum in the deal, Griffin will most likely spurn the Lakers.

      • Magicman (Editor)

        Magicman (Editor) 1:43 PM on June 9, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        We need a Lockdown Defender and we need to address the C/PF position on this team.

        With AD, you kill two birds with one stone. Everyone knows I’m gonna go a little nutty if he comes here. Lol.

        Either that or Beal or go out and buy one. LeBron getting older and fans shouldn’t expect him to be that lateral monster on d…so you find a guy that will pick it up.

        Ross is capable. So is Playoff Norm Powell. So is Marcus Morris.

        • DJ2KB24

          DJ2KB24 1:57 PM on June 9, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          What can Boston give to outdo us? No Heyward (contract heavy). What other youngs guys they got to add in to outdo us?

          • Magicman (Editor)

            Magicman (Editor) 2:19 PM on June 9, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Ingram Kuzma Ball

            Or

            Brown Tatum (Picks? Picks that don’t have the value they did 3 years ago.

        • Michael H (Editor)

          Michael H (Editor) 2:28 PM on June 9, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          If you are looking for defense I wouldn’t look to Beal. Lonzo was 41st in the league in defensive rating, while BI was 68th. They were a big part of our top 10 defense when we were healthy. Beal on the other hand was 288th. Bottom half. BI in his way to being a formidable two way player. He had a break out averaging over 21 per after the 1st of the year. While I would trade BI for AD no way I would trade him for Beal.

          • Magicman (Editor)

            Magicman (Editor) 2:59 PM on June 9, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            With John Wall in the lineup, the Wizards rank 28th in the NBA in defensive rating at 112.5. As Beal has led the squad over the past month, Washington now boasts a 108.5 defensive rating, good for 9th in the NBA.

            He was also, Top 8 in scoring after Wall got hurt.

            Giving Beal less responsibility on a team with LeBron means he plays less loaded minutes.

            We can talk all day about Lonzo, he has to stay healthy in order to make the systemic case he’s what his fervent constituency say he is.

      • LakerTom (Publisher) 3:00 PM on June 9, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Aloha, Michael.

        I think the Lakers drop dead line in the sane in the AD trade is retaining cap space to sign a third superstar. That means there are three trade scenarios that work:

        1. Ingram, Kuzma, Hart, Wagner, Bonga, and the #4 pick.
        2. Ball, Kuzma, Hart, Wagner, Bonga, and the #4 pick
        3. Ball, Ingram, and the #4 pick.

        It’s possible the Lakes might take a tougher stand and eliminate #3 and hold the line on keeping Lonzo or Brandon. I could support that too.

        I still find myself hoping in a way that we know that Kawhi or Kyrie or Butler is coming and we decide we would be better off keeping our young core and taking Darius Garland with the #4 pick. I just love what I see with him and what I think we’re going to see from Lonzo, Brandon, Kyle, and Josh this coming year. It would be great fun seeing what that team could do.

    • keen observer

      keen observer 7:25 PM on June 9, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      You might not have took any further than the PG13 and Kawhi deals to see that they were dealing with a pretty dried up market for young players and future assets. They were willing to take with lesser, veteran talent, which tells me that teams value their long term futures more than the next season. Let’s face it, the Pacers lucked out with Oladipo breaking through and Sabonis is a real solid piece, too, better than they could have hoped. The trade was widely criticized at the time. As for the Spurs, you really do have to say: “What were they thinking?” Regardless, the Lakers will be sitting pretty if they are willing to part with a couple of young players with upside, #4 and maybe a future protected first rounder or two.

  • Michael H (Editor)

    Michael H (Editor) 3:58 PM on May 16, 2019 Permalink  

    Mike Conley Anyone? 

    If we strike out with the top free agents Mike Conley could be one trade for a star we could make without giving up our young core. When Utah tried trade for him they offered two expiring contracts and a first round pick. We could offer this years pick and future first rounder along with Josh Hart and Wagner. We could fit his contract into our cap space. The problem for the Griz is the contenders that could use his services may not be able to take on his contract or have assets they might like. And the teams that could take on his salary and may have the assets are rebuilding and wouldn’t want to trade for him. He is still a very good player on both sides of the ball. And we get to keep our best young players.

     
  • Michael H (Editor)

    Michael H (Editor) 1:10 PM on April 22, 2019 Permalink  

    KD and Kyrie 

    Aloha,

    I was thinking about this summer and the two guys that may have the most impact on the Lakers. Now I don’t expect KD to come here. The Warriors are Steph’s team and they always will be. The only reason I could see him leaving is for his own team. But if he does leave the Warriors will still be legit contenders but it evens the playing field for us and the rest of the league. It could change our targets from one superstar to several good complimentary players. It is really impossible to duplicate what the Warriors did. Because of ankle injuries early on Steph was on a cheap deal. Klay and Draymond contracts came up for renewal before the spike in the salary cap and when it did come they were able to sign KD. I think the trend now is to surround one or two stars with good players and a solid bench.

    I think there maybe a chance to land Kyrie but even if we don’t he still will impact us. I think if resigns with Boston Ainge goes all in on a trade for AD, no matter what. But if he doesn’t I’m not sure Ainge trades a lot of their young core for a guy that might leave. Although because of the injuries to BI and Lonzo unless we luck out in the lottery I’m not sure we can make that trade.

    Now if KD does leave and we are able to sign Kyrie or Kawhi we are a legit contender in the west. Even with all of the roster mistakes we would be in the playoffs if it wasn’t for all of the injuries. BI, Kuz, Lonzo and Hart are all good enough players to contend if we are able to land one more star. One thing we must do is extend BI. Because of his injuries we may be able to get bargain like the Warriors did with Steph. The reports were that we could have extended Randle for 12 mil when he became eligible. Instead we let a talented young player walk for nothing. BI’s cap hold will be 21 mil his free agent year. If we sign him to around that we could at least trade him if need be to make room for say AD. If don’t we don’t extend we could possibly see yet another talented young player leave without anything to show for it.

     
    • mclyne32 (Director) 1:32 PM on April 22, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Aloha Michael, I agree with all of that.
      For me, the best case scenario is us getting Masai and Kawhi as a combo. I’m not expecting this to happen, because I don’t even know if Jeanie has or will consider this.
      Since there’s been so much smoke regarding KD and Kyrie teaming up in NYC, I won’t be surprised if this goes down. If this doesn’t happen, I too believe that we have a real shot at Irving.
      I also agree that we must sign BI. This is a no brainer.

    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 2:46 PM on April 22, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      If true, Randle at $12 million would have been a bargain.

      Agree with a lot of these notions with my only caveat being if some team or other goes on a deep playoff run or suffers an unexpected exit.

    • DJ2KB24

      DJ2KB24 4:16 PM on April 22, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      As far as Free Agent Supers, only the BRAVE will come to LA, the COWARDS will not!

      • mclyne32 (Director) 4:58 PM on April 22, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        LOL!
        Or, the ones who don’t fret over good leadership!

        • DJ2KB24

          DJ2KB24 6:00 PM on April 22, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Be THE Leader then! KD ain’t led nobody to nothing yet. LBJ went back home with a wild promise and he kept it!

          PS-I’d take him if he comes though, ha, ha.

  • Michael H (Editor)

    Michael H (Editor) 7:24 PM on April 18, 2019 Permalink  

    And then there is this 

    During an appearance Wednesday afternoon on ESPN 710 with Mason & Ireland, Ramona Shelburne said the following about Williams (emphasis mine): 

    “I think Monty’s the favorite, but I don’t know how that interview went last night. I haven’t heard from either side and it also is a choice for him. He’s probably in line if Philly opens up. If they lose or if they fall short, he’d be in line to step in there. His kids are settled there, he’s done a lot of moving around, so I could see him stay there. And also, everyone in the league has told him not to take the job.

     
    • Michael H (Editor)

      Michael H (Editor) 7:27 PM on April 18, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Williams is my favorite also. I wonder if Magic realized how much damage he did by resigning when he did and how he did it.

      • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

        Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 10:21 PM on April 18, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Nope. He doesn’t function that way, he goes on gut and he sees the play before it develops. He made his move when he saw the play developing in front of him.

      • LakerTom (Publisher) 1:57 PM on April 19, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        While Magic did some damage, he still left the Lakers in pretty good shape. In fact, you could argue that he left us perfectly positioned to return to greatness if we make the right decisions. LeBron James, four talented and very tradeable young stars, a lottery pick, and $38 million in cap space should be extremely attractive to almost any elite NBA front office executive. We’re just one hire from transforming dysfunction into fabulous opportunity.

    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 10:26 PM on April 18, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Thyat’s what I’d say. Who is going to be the one backing you? Rob Pelinka? No, this whole thing looks terrible right now. Need to hire a Pres first or the power structure and the perception that the Lakers are a total ship of fools will remain.

      When these articles come out that show how Pop makes it a personal thing to get the team to connect or how the Trailblazers empower everyone and then you see what we do the sunshine looks less enticing, the money a little less lucrative and the situation all the more toxic.

      Might end up with a mechanical clapping monkey for a coach…

    • keen observer

      keen observer 8:03 AM on April 19, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      “And also, everyone in the league has told him not to take the job.”

      Monty: You’re offering me HOW MUCH?!!!

      Cash talks and bullsh!t walks.

  • Michael H (Editor)

    Michael H (Editor) 12:26 PM on April 17, 2019 Permalink  

    David Griffin Believes Anthony Davis Could Stay with Pelicans Amid Trade Rumors 

    Even though Anthony Davis appeared to be checked out as the 2018-19 season came to a close, the New Orleans Pelicans aren’t shutting the door on bringing their All-Star center back.  

    During his introductory press conference Wednesday, David Griffin, New Orleans’ new executive vice president of basketball operations, expressed optimism about Davis remaining with the team after talking to Davis’ agent, Rich Paul. 

    “We have a long successful history with Klutch Sports,” Griffin told reporters. “Rich Paul and I have spoke about Anthony. We are both excited about what we could potentially build here. … Rich Paul and I were part of succeeding. They will understand when I say this, ‘You are either all the way or all the way out.'”


     
    • Michael H (Editor)

      Michael H (Editor) 12:28 PM on April 17, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I wonder if the Lakers considered Griffin’s good working relationship with Rich Paul when they called him to let him know they weren’t interested.

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 12:34 PM on April 17, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      AD is not staying in New Orleans. That’s just a pipedream and David knows that.

  • Michael H (Editor)

    Michael H (Editor) 12:19 PM on April 11, 2019 Permalink  

    Jesse Buss 

    I think Jeanie should turn all the basketball ball decisions over to Jesse. Let him decide who to hire. He’s proven himself with the scouting department he’s built. That’s been the only well run part of organization. I would trust him more to decide who the best GM and president candidates are then Jeanie.

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 12:34 PM on April 11, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Aloha, Michael.

      I like Jesse but he’s much too young and inexperienced to be given that responsibility in my opinion. The answer is not anybody in the Lakers’ current or former family. That would be settling for the same kinds of solutions that were made before. We’re in a much better position than when she hired Magic and Rob. I also think we should only hire one person as PBO/GM. That’s how the Warriors, Rockets, and Spurs do it.

      My opinion is the Lakers need to act quickly and decisively to go after the best PBO/GM’s in the league, which means respected, proven executives like Bob Myers, Masai Ujiri, Daryl Morey. You don’t need a long and prolonged search by outsiders to determine who are the top targets. With Magic gone, LeBron under contract, great young talent, a lottery pick, and unlimited budget, the Lakers PBO/GM job is the biggest plum in the league and perfectly positioned for someone to come in and become an instant success.

      Jeanie needs to be smart and aggressive enough to understand she’s in a great position to solve this problem and whomever she chooses should then make the decision quickly to fire Pelinka and Luke. I like the idea of Bob Myers for $50 million and complete control. Warriors will lose KD and Boogie. Bringing in Myers would immediately make the Lakers the prestige landing spot for free agents this summer. Could even lure KD or Boogie to don purple and gold.

      • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

        Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 12:48 PM on April 11, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        No he’s saying let Jesse make the recommendation, not to be the GM/Pres.

        • LakerTom (Publisher) 12:59 PM on April 11, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          He’s still too young and inexperienced to make the recommendation. Jeanie can’t let him or Linda or Kobe or Rob or anybody else make this decision. She needs to understand the Lakers are in a prime position right now, far different from when she wrested control of the franchise from her brother Jim. Listen to everybody but take responsibility for making the right decision. She has the best job in the league to offer right now. That means going after the top candidates, which start with Bob Myers. You don’t need to waste time and money hiring a professional search team to see that.

        • Magicman (Editor)

          Magicman (Editor) 1:00 PM on April 11, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Ryan West has the most experience in FO. And he is a candidate for a lot of jobs out there as well.

          There’s a lot of people who have experience, Jesse is inexperienced as Tom said, need an old rooster for this search.

          • LakerTom (Publisher) 1:01 PM on April 11, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Jerry West would probably be the best person to help Jeanie make the decision. Hopefully, she will reach out to him. If she did, I bet he would be willing to help. Maybe Ryan could help facilitate them getting together.

            • Magicman (Editor)

              Magicman (Editor) 1:03 PM on April 11, 2019 Permalink

              I don’t think Ryan ends up as a GM here…if not here it will be somewhere else.

              He’s been promoted twice, he knows more about the organization structure better than Pelinka.

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 1:04 PM on April 11, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Don’t get me wrong. I love Jesse Buss and Ryan West and the job they have done. Either would be better than Pelinka. I would reward them with more money and security but we need a proven, trusted, experienced top tier PBO/GM and we have everything one of them would want to take the job.

      • Michael H (Editor)

        Michael H (Editor) 1:16 PM on April 11, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I’m not saying give Jesse the job. I’m saying he has been involved in the basketball side for years, while Jeanie has been business and marketing. Yes Jesse is only 31 but I would trust his assessment on potential candidates more then her. She makes a lot of her decisions based on emotion. And as the acting Assistant GM Jesse probably knows more about the potential candidates then Jeanie. I would much rather have Jeanie listening to Jesse then Kurt’s wife who is Rob’s biggest promoter.

        • LakerTom (Publisher) 1:45 PM on April 11, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          She should definitely consult with him but she has to make the decision herself.

        • mclyne32 (Director) 4:03 PM on April 11, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          I agree with you, Michael. I would much rather have him making the decision. Since I don’t think how it’s going to go down, giving Jerry West a seat at the table right away would ensure that Jeanie would have the best available mind helping her out. I’m not saying he should be our PBO, or GM, but he is very valuable in the role he currently fills with the Clippers. Since Phil, and now Magic are gone, there is no reason for him to not be a part of the Lakers again.

  • Michael H (Editor)

    Michael H (Editor) 6:05 PM on April 9, 2019 Permalink  

    Wow didn’t see this coming 


    Magic Johnson is conducting an impromptu press conference and just stepped down as Lakers president. He said he loves Jeanie Buss like a sister.

     
  • Michael H (Editor)

    Michael H (Editor) 9:10 PM on April 7, 2019 Permalink  

    We played the wrong guys this year 

    Looks like Luke played the wrong guys all year. Maybe we should have been playing these guys :) so the Jazz are playing for home court advantage and we decide to hold Rondo out in a effort to tank and we still win. Kudos for Luke for keeping these guys motivated and playing hard. KCP was huge. 18 in the 4th and a huge assist. Where was this KCP when it counted. Javelle played a great game against Rudy and Caruso was solid again. And that kid Jones. Man 16 boards and he drew Mitchell, holding Him without a field goal in the 2nd half. Great effort from the entire team!

     
    • mclyne32 (Director) 9:47 PM on April 7, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Love me some Caruso!
      Jones needs to work on his shot all summer so he can come off the bench- I love his defensive intensity and nose for the ball.
      I wish we could have had this version of Kenny all season long. Now do we try and sign him do a reasonable deal? I still would look elsewhere due to his lack of consistency these past two years.
      McGee showing again that he deserves a decent deal this summer from our FO.

      • LakerTom (Publisher) 9:54 PM on April 7, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        F**k the tank. Love how these guys played tonight. Great game by KCP and JaVale. Jemario Jones was killer on D and the boards. He’s Brandon Clark but 4″ shorter. Lakers finding guys who are going to be great off the bench last year. Kudos for Luke and these guys for not quitting. Loved seeing them beat the Jazz. Even Muscala played well. Lakers win 6 of last 9 games.

  • Michael H (Editor)

    Michael H (Editor) 1:42 PM on April 6, 2019 Permalink  

    Just a question 

    I was thinking that the only way we can probably trade for AD would be too luck out and land Zion in the draft. But say it happens. It would take more then him. You would probably have to add BI and most likely Kuz or Ball to that trade. So what would be the better team. Making that trade or keeping Zion and the other kids and signing say Boogie and a couple of decent shooters? I think I would go for the 2nd choice. While not quite all star level yet BI, Kuz and Lonzo were all trending in the right direction. And BI was on the door step of stardom. Keep in mind that the Greek Freak didn’t break out until 22 and Dlo and Randle broke out soon after we let them go. Both BI and Kuz averaged 18 ppg, that’s not exactly chopped liver. What would you do? Go all in for today with AD or make signings that could make you a contender and set you up for years to come? Considering AD will be a free agent next year I personally would go with Boogie and the kids.

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 1:57 PM on April 6, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Aloha. I think I would agree with you, Michael. If you get Zion, it would be foolish in my mind to trade him and even two of Ball, Ingram, and Kuzma for AD. We would seriously regret making that move down the line when those young players bloomed. We gave up on D’Angelo and Julius too soon. I still think there’s a good chance that Lonzo, Brandon, and Kuzma are going to be All-Star level players in a couple of years.

      I would keep Zion, sign Boogie and maybe Danny Green, and have a great deep team that could complete for championships for a decade. A lineup of Lonzo, Green, LeBron, Zion, and Boogie with a bench of Caruso, Hart, Ingram, Kuzma, and McGee would be a great team with huge upside. If you can’t get Green, then I would consider trying to trade Ingram and Kuzma for Beal. See trades in post right below.

      One factor that everybody’s ignoring is how Tatum and Brown and the entire Boston lineup have regressed. If Kyrie decides to go to NY or New Jersey or even the Lakers, the Boston AD package suddenly becomes a big question mark. Celtics could easily bomb in playoffs.

      • therealhtj

        therealhtj 2:04 PM on April 6, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        They’re not getting the #1. Even if the lottery were rigged, no way they’d unofficially admit it by giving the Lakers Zion. But if you get him, you keep him. Cost controlled stars are how you build for the future. Unfortunately the Lakers only got the cost control, not really stars, not yet. BI looked good until his health issues. Kuz is a SINO (shooter in name only). If Lonzo can never shoot, do you even keep him for 11mil in year 4?

        • mclyne32 (Director) 5:24 PM on April 6, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          The lottery is rigged.
          Kuz averaged 18 ppg- that’s really solid output for a second year player, let alone a seasoned vet. Yeah, his 3pnt percentage was down, but since he shot around 37% last season, he can get there again.

      • mclyne32 (Director) 5:28 PM on April 6, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I agree with all that Tom, except for the trade for Beal.
        Kuzma could be just as good as him in a couple of years. Plus, Kuzma plus Brandon already exceed Beal’s output.
        I like Beal a lot, but not for both Kuz and Ingram. If we had more guys with reasonable contracts, I would package Lonzo and a couple others for him. This is another area in which these one year deals screw us.

    • mclyne32 (Director) 5:20 PM on April 6, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      If we were awarded Zion by Mr. Silver, I would probably keep him. It would be tempting to trade him for AD straight up. However, there is no way I would give up Zion plus others for AD.
      I would like to see Maginka give Boogie a two year deal and add a shooter.
      Since this would not be considered a big enough splash, I’m betting that they go all in on trying to lure one of the K’s and end up giving Butler a huge deal.
      One thing that has driven me crazy this season is KFC. The dude was trash all season until we were officially out of the playoff race. Since then, he’s been playing like a very good role player on a 50 plus win team. I guess it’s the usual “dude who’s contract is up starts ballin for the next one.” He’s the most consistently inconsistent player I’ve seen in over a decade.

    • Michael H (Editor)

      Michael H (Editor) 7:27 PM on April 6, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Aloha Tom. I don’t either happening. I really don’t see why the Pels would want Love. Injury prone and he will be 31. They are going to want young players and picks. As for the other trade Wall’s super max kicks in and with the injuries nobody is going to trade for him. Because of that contract I think the Wizards keep Beal and if they can add some guys.

  • Michael H (Editor)

    Michael H (Editor) 10:52 PM on April 5, 2019 Permalink  

    Caruso!!! 

    We better not let this kid walk. It will only take a 2 way contract offer to make him restricted and it won’t even count against the cap. The Clippers had something to play for and he ripped them a new one. He hustles, defends, rebounds 10 tonight and his offensive game is growing before our eyes. He is a big guard and athletic. He needs to stay. Also a shout out to our new 2 way guy J.J. It’s not going to show up in the box score but they had him on Lou most of 4th quarter and Lou only had 5 points. That was huge considering Lou is Mr 4th quarter. I’m glad they locked him up for next year because the kid only is 6’ 5” but plays like he’s 6’ 10”. If he can develop his offensive game next year in the G league he could be another find.

     
    • mclyne32 (Director) 8:10 AM on April 6, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I think he will get offers for real deals. He’s a legitimate NBA backup PG.
      Maginka will probably under value him and he will end up with a Franchise that doesn’t.

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 9:37 AM on April 6, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I think there is no doubt the Lakers have found their backup point guard for next season. They should sign Caruso to a 3-year minimum contract. He should not play another SBL game.

  • Michael H (Editor)

    Michael H (Editor) 2:31 PM on March 24, 2019 Permalink  

    This Summer 

    Aloha

    As the season from hell comes to a merciful end it has me thinking of how we can put out this dumpster fire. No need to rehash the crap because it won’t change anything. First I don’t see a big trade. Lonzo seemed to be stepping up his game when he went down. Unfortunately the sample size wasn’t big enough. BI was raising his trade value by the game until he went down. While the medical reports pointed to contact as the cause of the clots it will probably take a while for teams to take the chance. And Kuz hasn’t been doing much lately to raise his stock. Unless something crazy happens with the ping pong balls I doubt that we can pull off a trade.

    That leaves free agency. Again I’m not overly optimistic that we can land one of the K free agents. Ironically Kyrie maybe our best shot. It kind of appears that he doesn’t like being the face of a franchise. And with all the praise he’s been sending Lebron it makes you wonder. But even without a K free agent we still could build a pretty good team with the 38 mil we will have in cap space. Actually the key to if we can be a contender next year is really up to KD. If he leaves the Warriors it will really level the playing field in the West.

    I think the first thing is do not kick the can another year for AD. You can always give away a good player in trade if you need to create cap space. Plus the cap will rise to 118 mil in 2020. I would try and extend BI for around 20 mil. Because of the injury he might be open to it. If you wait and he picks up where he left off it’s going to cost a lot more. It would also be nice to have a good player with a reasonable contract if to trade if a great opportunity comes along. We haven’t had that and we have missed out.

    If we can’t land a top free agent I would turn my attention to centers. I’ve read that Vucevic may not get more then 20 mil because this year is the best he’s had. And Boogie may not get more then that either. It would probably be one year and a player option year to prove himself. I would look to bring Javelle and Brook back if we couldn’t land one of them. Here are some of the players we could fill out the roster with.

    PG

    Rose, Rubio, Teague, Elfrid Payton, Rondo

    SG

    Terrence Ross, Danny Green, Bullock, Matthews, tyreke evans

    SF

    Bogdanovic, Ariza

    PF

    Mirotic, either of the Morris twins, Thad Young, Taj Gibson

    There are others but like Randle I don’t think they would come. If we can’t add a top free i would like either Boogie or Vuc, Rose or Teague and Terrence Ross. That would be pretty good team of course we would have to stay healthy. If we can’t land a top free agent, who would you like to add?

     
    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 3:39 PM on March 24, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Great post Michael, working on a similar ‘eyes to the future’ kind of thing although less about the roster and more about the rest of the mess. At any rate I tend to agree on the trade front, although you never know.

      I would love for us to nab Ricky Rubio, although his lack of shooting paired with Lonzo’s lack of shooting gives me more than a little worry. If Rondo wants to stay on the roster for the vet minimum, sure, but nothing more and after we’ve filled out the roster.

      For my part I go hard at both Vuce and Boogie, even if you land them both you’ve can play Cousins at the 4 and keep James at the 3 more. Danny Green would be great, too.

      After that guys like the Morris Twins move the needle a bit for me, Jeff Teague does, too. I just think they’ll end up in situations with more of a guaranteed role.

    • DJ2KB24

      DJ2KB24 4:31 PM on March 24, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I’m not thinking that keeping these kids and failure on a Super, is Magic’s plan.

      • Magicman (Editor)

        Magicman (Editor) 4:35 PM on March 24, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        If we had Fox or Donovan Mitchell to offer, AD would be a Laker.

        These players (other than B.I.) aren’t gonna net us a Superstar.

    • mclyne32 (Director) 5:27 PM on March 24, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Trade LeBron to whomever winds up with the #1 pick.
      I just finished watching the Duke game and man is Zion explosive.
      Dawkins really showed me something too. He can shoot and play good D. He will have a very long and productive NBA career.
      Michael, I love the idea of going after Vucevic and Boogie.
      I also would be down with Teague and Danny Green.
      What I would really like Magic to do is apologize to Zubac and bring him back, but that’s not going to happen.
      Either of the Morris twins would be fine but they don’t move the needle for me.
      I also agree with giving Brandon a deal. He’s shown me enough to have earned it.

      • Magicman (Editor)

        Magicman (Editor) 5:41 PM on March 24, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Lol.

        • keen observer

          keen observer 6:09 PM on March 24, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          +1, Sean.

        • mclyne32 (Director) 7:04 PM on March 24, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          You would be insane NOT to trade a dude who maybe has two good seasons left in him and only plays D once in awhile for Zion.
          I know it won’t happen, since our FO has already proven that they are inept.

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 10:01 AM on March 25, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Aloha, Michael,

      We’re pretty much in the same place with the Lakers. Today’s game and LeBron’s presence almost demands a center who can protect the rim and stretch the floor. I would prefer Vucevic over Boogie because I think he would be a better fit and I’m still not sold on Boogie being a winner. The last thing we need is another rough personality on the team. Vucevic is still my top priority. Add him to a healthy Ball, Ingram, Kuzma, and LeBron and I think you have a pretty good starting lineup.

      Landing Kemba as well as Vucevic is probably a pipe dream but if we could sign Nikola for $18M, which is a number I’ve seen in a couple of articles, then we might be able to get Kemba aboard because we would definitely be a championship contender with a lineup of Lonzo, Kemba, Ingram, James, and Vucevic. It might require that we move a couple of players -- maybe Ingram and Hart -- to clear the cap space but it would be worth it. There’s still a question whether Ingram will fit well with LeBron although I still love his defense.

      I think there’s still a remote chance we might somehow end up with Kawhi or Kyrie but I hope we don’t hesitate to go after more realistic options like Vucevic and Walker waiting against hope for a bigger fish to bite. Magic and Rob need to be decisive and figure out who we have a realistic shot at landing and make them the top priority. $18 million for Vuch and $20 million for Kemba could work, especially if we gave them third year options that could translate into rewards of near max contracts. Playing with LeBron and having a genuine chance at winning a championship could be critical to landing both of them.

      If we can only land one of them, I would still be happy. Vuch would be perfect with the young team we have and wouldn’t require any current starter going to the bench. One thing I love about Kemba is he always plays great against the Celtics. I watched him torch them and outplay Kyrie last week. I also think he could easily play the 2 along side Lonzo, whom I think is untouchable unless it were in a trade for AD, although we would need to land a top four pick to resurrect any hope of landing him.

      I also agree with you on looking at players like Ross, Rose, and the Morris twins. They would be excellent options if we cannot pull of landing both Vucevic and Walker. We might also look at possibly doing a sign and trade for one of them and giving up Ingram as the price. I also would not be against bringing back Brook but I doubt he would be interested even with Disneyland. I still like Randle but we need 3-point shooters and as great as players like Julius and Brandon are in other areas, they allow teams to sag on us.

      I’m hoping we keep Luke and if Jeanie has any vision, she should demand that of Magic and Rob. The roster moves and injuries really robbed this team of any chance of a successful season. We definitely need to bring in an associate head coach who help Luke run the offensive side of things. While surrounding LeBron with playmakers was great out-of-the-box thinking, the guys they pass to have to be able to shoot the ball and we need schemes that setup 3-point shooters to get the shots they need. We need shooters like Bogdanovic, Joe Harris, or Terence Ross. They’re invaluable offensive pieces in today’s game. I had hoped Kuzma would turn into one of them but it doesn’t look like that’s going to happen.

      Finally, the last thing the Lakers should do is trade Lonzo Ball unless it were for AD. Despite the obvious warts of his free throw shooting, I think Lonzo is going to be a superstar and defensive stud. Bottom line, it all comes down to Magic and Rob being patient and not making panic moves and instead building a team the right way, piece by piece, for the future. Not for just one year but for the long haul. The key to me is Jeanie Buss and whether she demands that the team not panic and make more bad moves trying to make up for the bad moves made last year. Don’t throw out the baby with the bathwater, Jeanie. It’s up to you.

  • Michael H (Editor)

    Michael H (Editor) 12:05 PM on March 17, 2019 Permalink  

    Lebron took tanking into his own hands 

    That was just terrible. It doesn’t matter I guess since it keeps the tank train rolling. Still… last 4 possessions Lebron pound pound pound missed 3. Pound pound pound blocked shot. Pound pound pound missed two pound pound pound blocked shot. The kids took so much heat for losing to the Knicks when Lebron, Kuz and Rondo were all out. This was just stupid. Only really two good things about this game. Kuzma is really becoming a good playmaker unfortunately it’s tempered by his poor 3 point shooting. And Caruso is earning himself a full time roster spot somewhere. His defense and hustle has been impressive and he has added a little scoring as well.

     
    • mclyne32 (Director) 2:02 PM on March 17, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Good loss.
      I like Caruso as our backup PG next year, but I’m sure Maginka will let him walk while they are star chasing.
      J Williams is a decent backup big as well.
      We just need to lose all the remaining games to improve our draft odds. A crappy thing to have to write again based on who we picked up last summer, but it’s obviously a way to improve the team for next season.
      Maginka need all the help they can get in order to pull off the impossible this summer: winning the AD sweepstakes.

    • mclyne32 (Director) 4:36 PM on March 17, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      How does everyone feel about LeBron sitting at the end of the bench away from his team mates who were huddling around the coach?
      That’s terrible leadership.
      No excuses.
      I don’t care how pissed of you are.

      • Magicman (Editor)

        Magicman (Editor) 5:15 PM on March 17, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        How do you know if it ain’t in reverse? They’ve isolated themselves from him?

        • mclyne32 (Director) 6:55 PM on March 17, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Uhhhhh, they (coaches and players) were all huddled around a central location and LeLeader chose to sit four seats away all by himself.

          • Magicman (Editor)

            Magicman (Editor) 7:17 PM on March 17, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            I saw the game homey.

            Matt, Ive always believed and will continue to believe: There are 3 sides to every story; my side, your side and the truth.

          • Magicman (Editor)

            Magicman (Editor) 7:18 PM on March 17, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            I also subscribe to believe half of what you see and nothing of what you hear.

            Those 2 principles have kept me out of trouble.

            • mclyne32 (Director) 7:21 PM on March 17, 2019 Permalink

              More excuses for this guy than Michael Jackson. SMH

            • Magicman (Editor)

              Magicman (Editor) 7:25 PM on March 17, 2019 Permalink

              What’s ironic, I could say the same thing about Kobe or MJ. They wouldn’t be down with this basic stuff either.

          • Magicman (Editor)

            Magicman (Editor) 7:22 PM on March 17, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            And let’s say Lebron isn’t down with Luke (which is true) and he’s frustrated.

            Why usurp him? Or cause conflict.

            No offense to Luke, If I was Bron I wouldn’t listen to him either, because I see the game in a way you couldn’t fathom. Truth.

            • mclyne32 (Director) 7:47 PM on March 17, 2019 Permalink

              It’s not about “agreeing,” it’s about pretending that you give a d**n. He just just claim that his little groin flared up again and sit out the rest of the season so guys who actually give a sh!t can play.

            • mclyne32 (Director) 7:49 PM on March 17, 2019 Permalink

              *should just claim

        • mclyne32 (Director) 7:02 PM on March 17, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          • DJ2KB24

            DJ2KB24 7:06 PM on March 17, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Calm down MC, “nothing really matters” until this summer. Ref-Freddie Mercury

            • Magicman (Editor)

              Magicman (Editor) 7:15 PM on March 17, 2019 Permalink

              Outstanding reference and proper usage, teach! :)

            • mclyne32 (Director) 7:24 PM on March 17, 2019 Permalink

              Uhhh, it matters for the guys who will be back next season. Nobody knows if Maginka will be able to pull off ANY trades this summer. No matter what excuses you guys come up with, this will still look like terrible leadership. Unfortunately perception is reality in these circumstances.

            • Magicman (Editor)

              Magicman (Editor) 7:26 PM on March 17, 2019 Permalink

              Whose back from this group? Whose safe?

            • Magicman (Editor)

              Magicman (Editor) 7:27 PM on March 17, 2019 Permalink

              From the cat bird’s seat, ain’t no one of this sorry bunch safe.

            • DJ2KB24

              DJ2KB24 7:27 PM on March 17, 2019 Permalink

              They key is we don’t know until summer if Maginka succeeds or fails.

            • Magicman (Editor)

              Magicman (Editor) 7:28 PM on March 17, 2019 Permalink

              Word

            • DJ2KB24

              DJ2KB24 7:28 PM on March 17, 2019 Permalink

              TNX MM : )

            • mclyne32 (Director) 7:41 PM on March 17, 2019 Permalink

              So, sh!t on Em now, and clean off the ones who are back?? Great plan!

            • DJ2KB24

              DJ2KB24 7:56 PM on March 17, 2019 Permalink

              Got no choice. After Draft and Free Agent deadline, they we can talk. BTW, ask many, I am about the least patient for the Lakers. Yankee fan as well and was hacked we didn’t sign Harper and Machado, but then I looked at those crazy contracts, wow!

            • mclyne32 (Director) 8:03 PM on March 17, 2019 Permalink

              Nobody FORCED LeBron to come here. He CHOSE these guys to come and play with. Just because things didn’t work out Year one, doesn’t give him the right to treat them like trash. It’s called being a professional.

            • DJ2KB24

              DJ2KB24 8:14 PM on March 17, 2019 Permalink

              Yeah, it would be nice if that’s the case. I agree.

    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 9:13 PM on March 17, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I thought that this was a really fun game and the team just took it’s collective foot off the gas pedal at the end. At this point it’s hard watching the games, regardless of the outcome.

      As to the whole ‘LeBron not sitting with the team’ debate my two bits is thus: No. Big. Deal. The observation that we don’t know what look was drawing up is a sword of truth that cuts two ways: we neither know what he was drawing up or if LeBron knew what it was or if Luke said ‘Hey man, go sit and chill I want to show the kids what they did wrong on the last play. We’ll never know.

      I will say that LeBron is leading as much as can be expected. He didn’t come here to develop our G League team, it ain’t Ingram and Ball in the huddle, it’s guys who play for the South Bay Lakers plus Kuzma, maybe Rondo just because Rondo is deep into nuts and bolts and looking for a coaching job in a season or next. Like it or not, LeBron doesn’t owe anyone a dang thing. he could have shut it down a week ago with a sore what-have-you or whatever they wanted to cook up. I’m sure he has plenty of regular NBA bumps and bruises that every player has.

      All the greats have sat apart while the coach draws up a play. They know what the play is: I’m going to win the game and I’ll figure it out on the court, not on a clipboard. The clipboard is as much a prop as a tool for communicating plays. Luke’s never been the clipboard kind of guy, anyhow. He knows that if the players on the court can’t dig in mentally or spiritually to the flow of the game it won’t matter anyway.

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 5:36 AM on March 18, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      This is pretty much what KD was talking about when he said the media creates a toxic environment around Lebron

  • Michael H (Editor)

    Michael H (Editor) 11:27 AM on March 16, 2019 Permalink  

    Good News 


    UPDATE: Brandon Ingram underwent successful thoracic outlet decompression surgery on his right arm today. The procedure was performed by Dr. Hugh Gelabert at the Ronald Reagan UCLA Medical Center. Ingram is expected to make a full recovery prior to the start of next season.


     
    • DJ2KB24

      DJ2KB24 11:52 AM on March 16, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Saw that, yea!!

    • Magicman (Editor)

      Magicman (Editor) 11:53 AM on March 16, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Rainbow during the eye of a hurricane.

      We got some good news. Thumbs up.

    • DJ2KB24

      DJ2KB24 12:01 PM on March 16, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I guess I am one of the few to watch us to the bitter (sweet-Pick) end, ha. ha. I do it with “a little help from my friend” -the DVR : )

      • DJ2KB24

        DJ2KB24 12:03 PM on March 16, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        PS-I am not sure why we keep playing KCP, Muscrat, Bullock etc. instead of Bonga, Wagner, guys that may be with us next year. Low on players I guess?

        • Magicman (Editor)

          Magicman (Editor) 12:32 PM on March 16, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Bonga doesn’t practice hard, DJ.

          He isn’t finishing some games with South Bay, either.

        • mclyne32 (Director) 1:17 PM on March 16, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          I like Bullock and would keep him.
          Muscala is trash and KFC is only good every sixth or seventh game.

          • DJ2KB24

            DJ2KB24 1:53 PM on March 16, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Agree, but perhaps Bullock very cheap. Ya know, LA is where 3 pt shooters come to fail. Too bad we let sweet Lou walk and of course Randle. Oh, and now our Starting Center will be Wagner (?)!

            • mclyne32 (Director) 5:40 PM on March 16, 2019 Permalink

              For me, it should be Vucevic, but it will probably be Boogie.

            • Magicman (Editor)

              Magicman (Editor) 5:55 PM on March 16, 2019 Permalink

              I get a vibe Vucevic signs with the Mavs.

              There Euro style of play fits his game.

    • mclyne32 (Director) 1:11 PM on March 16, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Excellent news! Thanks for posting this Michael!

    • Michael H (Editor)

      Michael H (Editor) 2:33 PM on March 16, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      You’re welcome. BI’s trade value might take a hit for awhile until clubs are convinced that it was an impact injury and not a serious medical condition like Bosh. But that could be one of those blessings in disguise. While his 28 and 7 after the all star break focused the national spotlight on him, he was averaging 20 and 6 after he returned from that injury earlier in the year. A 6’ 9” shooting guard with a 7’ 3” wing span is a nightly match up nightmare for our opponents. Considering he can also guard the position he’s a tremendous asset. If his 3 point shot comes around like it did after the break his an all star in a year or two. Everybody wants a 2nd star for Lebron but we may already have him. At least that’s the way he was playing.

      • Magicman (Editor)

        Magicman (Editor) 3:04 PM on March 16, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Let’s hope he’s gonna make a complete recovery.

        Not just being an athlete, Bosh being an entrepreneur travelled a lot. Air travel is a contributing factor in developing clots.

        Teletovic would have probably died had Paramedics not checked him out. And it reoccurred last December after surgery.

        He might not be out of the woods yet.

        Day by day issue, similar to A-Fib and Marfan Syndrome.

  • Michael H (Editor)

    Michael H (Editor) 2:12 PM on March 10, 2019 Permalink  

    Where do we go from here 

    This has been the most disappointing season for me since Kobe went down with the Achilles. I had two major concerns when we landed Lebron and so far they both have materialized. The first was we would try to fast track a contender to take advantage of Lebron’s window. That’s very hard to do when you don’t already have a 2nd star in place. The Celtics had Pierce. The Heat had Wade. The Warriors had 3 stars and added KD. Trading Clarkson and Nance created the space to land Lebron. They should have stopped there. Trading Dlo to create more space was a fail. Yes he wasn’t a star yet but at 22 he is and that’s typical. It takes time. There wasn’t much info on our attempt to trade for PG but one wonders that if we still had Dlo to offer in a package we might have PG now. Yes we got a pick that turned into Kuz but we had the next pick as well. And even if the Nets has taken Kuz at 27 who would you rather have PG or Kuz? Oh and with Mosgovs salary and Dlo and others we might have Butler now. And if the trade didn’t happen Dlo sure would have come in handy this year with all of the injuries. Next we let Randle our best player last year walk for nothing. Think we could have used him this year? And wouldn’t he be a nice piece for a trade package? Then of course we trade a developing young big go for a 3 point shooter that can’t get off the bench with half the team injured. The irony was the FO looking for a center off the waiver wire. Zu’s cap hold would have been minimal this summer. The only free agent that we would have needed that space for is KD and he’s not coming. Of course the could have released him if they did the space. Perhaps the FO feels we won’t need centers going forward. Then all the trade line drama was just stupid. I’ve never seen anything like it. If everything out there was fake news they did nothing to try and manage it.

    My other concern was Lebron’s health at 34. I know how well he takes care of his body but so did Kobe and his body started breaking down at 34. Hopefully we don’t see injuries piling up over the next 3 years.

    Brandon’s blood clot may have killed the slim chance we had at an AD trade. While it’s treatable and very likely a one time deal, Bosh’s blood clot issues would have to be in the back of GM’s minds. And it very well may pay off if we can’t trade him. BI struggled the first part of the year playing with Lebron. But over his last 32 games he averaged a little over 20 a game on 51% shooting and 33% from 3. And of course 28 ppg after the all star game. He’s been better then the golden boy Tatum over the same stretch.

    Moving forward I would like the FO to understand that yes you can trade people if you need to. I would like them to build the best team they can and not worry about these one year deals. Sign good players that will fit with Lebron and the kids. Hopefully a good center. If AD wants to come in 2020 it’s not hard to give away a good player in a trade. It time to build the best team possible and not worry so much about the sacred cap space if we are not able to sign a big name this summer.

     
    • mclyne32 (Director) 3:23 PM on March 10, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Aloha Michael,
      Did you get your skis waxed up before you headed over to Maui for some downhill fun?
      All joking aside, I agree with almost all of that except for DAR. If he didn’t show us a major character flaw with the Swaggy P mess, I think he would have been kept. After that went down, I don’t blame Magic for shipping him out.
      To date, the blunder of not giving up Brandon for PG is Maginka’s biggest fail. The guy is a legitimate MVP candidate this year and plays excellent D.
      The other concern I have with LeBron is the fact that many top tier players don’t want to team up with him. I will eat crow if this summer proves me wrong but so far, it’s been a known issue throughout the NBA.
      I sure hope Ingram’s blood clot issues can be resolved this summer. Since I still believe that even if this problem didn’t arise, we still weren’t going to be given a fair chance this summer to nab AD.
      I sure hope Maginka have realized that their sacred cap space plan has failed and they change course this summer. Just sign Boogie for two years, sign some shooters, and a point guard who can shoot. Hope that either Kyrie or someone else signs on and wait for AD the following summer.
      If no big Free Agents comes, you still have a team assembled that aren’t all on one year deals. You can always trade them at the deadline next season or next summer to make room for AD.

      • Michael H (Editor)

        Michael H (Editor) 5:23 PM on March 10, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I agree. The Lakers have usually built around trades. Shaq was really the only big time free agent we have had. We couldn’t even try for Butler because we didn’t have any salaries to match because of all the one year deals. I’m with you. Build the best team you can with free agency. Like I said you can give away a good player in a trade if you need to clear space for AD in 2020. I also agree that some players may not want to play with Lebron. That makes it even more important to develop our young guys. It would be a disaster if we kept giving them away and no big free agents wanted to come. Actually unless we sign one this summer, it’s alread a disaster.

        • Michael H (Editor)

          Michael H (Editor) 5:28 PM on March 10, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Oh by the way. I don’t have to go to Maui. Little known fact we have two mountains over 13,600 feet tall and we get snow every year. But if you ski up there you better not fall. Lava rock isn’t the cushion :).

    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 12:29 AM on March 12, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      We’re going to see some Andre Ingram. Dude has the audition slot of a lifetime. Call out those rotations my man.

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