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  • Michael H (Editor)

    Michael H (Editor) 9:21 PM on December 7, 2017 Permalink |  

    Lol 

    Serena Winters
    Serena Winters
    @SerenaWinters
    Luke Walton yelling out to Brandon Ingram about his game-winner after his postgame interview: “If you would’ve made your free throws, we wouldn’t have needed that!”

     
    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 9:28 PM on December 7, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Truth though, big issue for this team. Coaches need to own up on this, too. Need to practice the basics and attain mediocrity. All in all, we overcame a lot to win this game. Nice to see them pull one like this out.

    • tate793

      tate793 10:32 PM on December 7, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      There is a definite need to improve our free throw shooting.

      Yet, there were so many positives about this game.

      I do think that Lonzo showed some progress in overcoming his personal challenges.

    • Worthy42

      Worthy42 5:05 AM on December 8, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Meanwhile Embiid hits them with ease…close to 80% on the year. Go figure. That kid has some skillz. Great win.

  • Michael H (Editor)

    Michael H (Editor) 8:17 PM on November 29, 2017 Permalink  

    Randle played too well 

    I guess Randle was playing to well. 8 points 2 boards and an assist in 5 minutes. So let’s take him out. He’s playing too well.

     
    • Michael H (Editor)

      Michael H (Editor) 8:42 PM on November 29, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I must apologize too Luke. It appears that he was matching Randle with Green. Put him back when Green came back.

      • keen observer

        keen observer 7:56 AM on November 30, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Then he should have started Randle. I am not one to constantly criticize Luke like some in here, but enough is enough with Julius Randle’s short minutes. It is painfully obvious that for some stupid reason he is not a part of this team’s future. If they get rid of him, it will haunt them.

    • DJ2KB24

      DJ2KB24 8:45 PM on November 29, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Nice first half! Clicking well. Keep it up boyzzzz! : )

  • Michael H (Editor)

    Michael H (Editor) 10:18 PM on November 27, 2017 Permalink  

    I don’t understand 

    Clarkson has 17 points on 66% shooting 8 boards and 5 assists. And Luke closes with Lonzo? I just don’t understand.

     
    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 10:29 PM on November 27, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Yah brah, I don get it neither…mystifying AF.

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 8:08 AM on November 28, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      At some point, development has to include trying to win games besides giving key players experience. Looked to me like both Clarkson and Kuzma were miffed at Luke for his rotations and substitutions. What happened to the guys who got you there finishing the game? Luke getting too cool for school again. Play the guys who are playing well rather than hunches on who might play well.

  • Michael H (Editor)

    Michael H (Editor) 10:40 AM on November 20, 2017 Permalink  

    LOL 

    Taco Trey Kerby
    Taco Trey Kerby
    @treykerby
    Lonzo now undefeated and averaging a triple-double in games immediately following his dad being criticized by the president.
    4:38 AM · Nov 20, 2017

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 10:42 AM on November 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      LOL. It’s only a matter of time before POTUS starts tweeting about Lonzo’s shooting.

      • NBA4ever

        NBA4ever 2:49 PM on November 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        He has an UGLY shot…. Believe me it’s horrible, the worst, he’s a loser…… The league should suspend him for that UGLY shot…he is toast in the league…….overrated loser bigly

  • Michael H (Editor)

    Michael H (Editor) 8:53 PM on November 16, 2017 Permalink  

    Half 

    Wow the Suns put up 65 in the first half! Unfortunately for them the Rockets put up 90 :) Harden has 33.

     
    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 9:50 PM on November 16, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Not sure what’s gonna feel worse tomorrow..
      That 3 of our 7 wins came against these dudes
      or
      That we lost to these clowns the night after they gave up 90 in a half

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 8:22 AM on November 17, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Dang. Suns are going to be well rested for a back-to-back.

  • Michael H (Editor)

    Michael H (Editor) 4:44 PM on November 10, 2017 Permalink  

    On trading Randle 

    Aloha

    Tom is right. If we trade Randle it should be for someone we intend to keep. I would never trade him as part of a salary dump. I was thinking about Clarkson and Randle for George which makes sense but looking into the numbers it brought up a bigger question. Why are we not playing these guys more?

    Paul George 35.3 minutes per
    Shooting .423 .381 from 3
    19.5 points per
    4.7 boards per
    3.1 assists

    Clarkson 21 minutes
    Shooting .511 .429 from 3
    15.3 points
    2.5 boards
    2.8 assists

    Randle 19.1 minutes
    Shooting.607 (not enough 3 attempts to matter)
    11.4 points
    6.5 boards
    1.7 assists

    So in this trade we give up shooting efficiency, 7.2 points. 4.3 boards and 1.4 assists. Even if George scores 23.7 like his best year it’s still a net loss in points. Also Randle/Clarkson are only playing a combined 5 minutes more Paul.

    Looking further at the per 36 stats

    Clarkson 26.3 points 4.3 boards 4.9 assists

    Randle 21.4 points 12.2 boards 3.1 assists.

    For me before we trade these guys we should play them more and see what we have before trading it away. Over 36 they both out perform him. I already think not playing them more have cost us a couple of wins already.

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 6:04 PM on November 10, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Aloha, Michael,

      If the Thunder continue to struggle and they were willing to trade PG for Randle and Clarkson, the only reason why I would not do the deal is if Julius Randle continued to play like he has and shows that he can still perform at the same level if he were playing 24 to 30 minutes per game. In other words, I would find a way to keep Randle if he continued to play this well, even if it meant not getting a second elite free agent. Randle shows just too much promise to me as a small ball center to trade him if he continues to play this well. I’ve always loved his handle, rebounding, and playmaking but it’s his defense that sealed it for me. I truly believe Julius can have a Draymond Green impact on the Lakers. In fact, he already is doing that.

      I don’t have as strong conviction that Clarkson can continue to play at this level but would be thrilled if he does. The problem is that Jordan has started out hot before and tailed off. He still at times is making poor plays but does seem to rebound better and play more consistently. But he can score the ball and that is a skill we desperately need. I’m rooting for he and Randle to become our “second” elite free agent next summer. The ideal situation would be to re-sign Clarkson and Randle as one elite free agent and then sign DeMarcus Cousins as the second elite free agent. A starting lineup of Lonzo, Ingram, Kuzma, Randle, and Cousins could be a championship contender if the four starters and Clarkson all developed and matured.

      With that starting lineup, I think the Lakers could easily add more shooting and defense for the bench. With so little cap space out there, there are going to be some outstanding players signed for bargain contracts. Of course, none of this will happen if LeBron and PG want to come to LA but next summer is so many days and events away that the Lakers need to focus on their existing roster and make sure they win enough to show prospective free agents a promising situation. We’re at a critical point right now where many pundits expect us to drop like we did last year. We need at minimum to win 1 of the next 2 road games. Then we have a stretch of games that should give us a shot at finishing the first quarter of the year at .500 …. just like last year but hopefully with a better ending.

      • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

        Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 6:12 PM on November 10, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Clarkson is under contract for 2 more seasons. There’s no need to re-sign him now. He’s already signed.

        • LakerTom (Publisher) 6:14 PM on November 10, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          You’re right but he would have to be traded if we want to sign two elite free agents.

          • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

            Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 6:20 PM on November 10, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            I don’t see how that configures with: “The ideal situation would be to re-sign Clarkson and Randle as one elite free agent and then sign DeMarcus Cousins as the second elite free agent.”

            You already have Clarkson. If you’re not W&S Deng or re-signing Brook or KCP then you have all the cap space you need. Now you’re talking about re-upping large with Randle and signing Cousins. Or whomever. Clarkson has nothing to do with it, save for that he’s signed for two more seasons after this one.

            The other scenario basically means gutting and capping out the team. Not sure we do that unless it’s for LBJ, which I don’t think is happening.

            • LakerTom (Publisher) 6:23 PM on November 10, 2017 Permalink

              How about:

              The ideal situation would be re-sign Randle and not trade Clarkson and consider them and their salaries as our “second” elite free agent.

              SMH

    • mclyne32 (Director) 9:57 AM on November 11, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      No to trading either of them unless they significantly drop off from now until the deadline.

  • Michael H (Editor)

    Michael H (Editor) 10:39 PM on November 8, 2017 Permalink  

    Scheme vs results 

    Aloha

    This was one of the most frustrating games for me in awhile. I have to give Luke some of the blame for this one. He was definitely out coached. It started in the first quarter. We couldn’t score. We had 11 points and he brings in Brewer and Bogut. He said he thought we needed toughness. No we needed points. Besides Randle brings toughness. So we score five more points while Boston runs away with the quarter. We finally turned the game around when he brought in Randle and Clarkson.

    I know Luke has a vision of how he wants to play. So did Phil. But scheme often gave way to talent in all those wins. Yes Clarkson pounds the ball too much at times but he’s also the best scorer on the team and one of the better ones in the league. Considering his defense has improved I don’t understand not playing him more. He had 18 in 26 minutes. Shot a good percentage and was 2 for 4 from 3 on a night we couldnt hit 3’s.

    Then there is Randle. Would it be great if he could stretch the floor with 3’s? Of course. But what stretching the floor is supposed to do is create buckets at the rim which Randle does. He had 16 and 12 in 21 minutes. On a night we are getting crushed on the offensive glass our best rebounder gets 21 minutes.

    Nobody on this team has earned the right to be on the court if they are not playing well. Kuz didn’t have a good game but he played 34 minutes. Lonzo couldn’t score but he got 37 minutes. Too me it makes no sense not to go with the guys getting it done. We will win more games this year if we ride the players Playing well instead of worrying about who fits the scheme better.

     
    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 11:31 PM on November 8, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Hey Michael. I felt pretty much exactly the same way. Watching Brewer is mind-boggling. He played so very much smarter last season, now he makes bone-headed play after bone-headed play while not playing very good defense. I don’t get it.

      Clarkson and Randle have been stalwarts this season. Other team running it down the starters throat? They stabilize the game and at least give us a shot at a comeback. Starters doing OK? They generally hold the fort and keep the good times rolling. Do teams run up the score on them? Not often.

      I get that Luke wants to draw a line between the starers and the bench. But that should never, ever determine who plays in crunch time. Best players, or the ones playing their best. Clarkson and Randle are our most consistently best players and they certainly were tonight.

      I don’t see why Randle and Lopez can’t share the floor with five minutes to go in the fourth quarter and still maintain a semblance of a rotation. Makes no sense at all. I don’t see why Clarkson needs to come out when Lonzo comes in. KCP couldn’t throw it in the ocean tonight. Be the coach, don’t worry about the money or where a guy was picked, don’t worry about anything other than who’s making it happen.

      Celtics stood tough against some mighty rallies, Lakers starters and…Bogut…played us into a hole from which we could never crawl out. It was a good test, though. That’s probably as close to a playoff atmosphere as a lot of these kids have ever been in. Maybe if they were at Kobe’s last game…

    • Worthy42

      Worthy42 4:40 AM on November 9, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      +1 from me. The rotations just do not make sense in many cases. Randle deserves 30 minutes each night. Bogut is useless. And I still think one of the real PGs needs to play backup…Clarkson is not a PG, and does not facilitate.

      • Worthy42

        Worthy42 4:56 AM on November 9, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Also, admittedly this was the first full game I have been able to watch (I am on East Coast, and baseball took up many nights), but I am not sold on KCP. He did not look great last night -- poor decisions, and missed easy shots. I am fine with one year from him.

        • Worthy42

          Worthy42 6:19 AM on November 9, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Also also, say what you want about LNJ but he definitely covered up a few defensive deficiencies for this team.

          • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

            Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 8:54 AM on November 9, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            I’m fine with Clarkson backing up Ball. Ennis hasn’t provided much except for one game and Caruso can only play up here for 45 days. The problem I see is that Vander Blue and Clarkson play the same style of ball: get past your defender using the dribble, get to the rim and score…maybe make a play. For a backup PG in today’s NBA that’s fine for me. Clarkson and Randle have enough 2-man game in them, with plenty of room to grow of course, but you don’t need a guy racking up tons of dimes off the bench anyhow.

            The Bogut Experiment continues to be a head-scratcher. Not just last night, but honestly the whole thing. When he admitted he hadn’t really been training in the summer in lieu of a deal I was thinking ‘maybe we’ll see him in mop up duty here and there while he works himself into game-shape’ but you can tell Luke would much rather he be a part of a regular rotation.

            Maybe there are convincing metrics that Randle’s production drops off a cliff after a certain number of minutes. Maybe Julius hasn’t been a model citizen, somehow. They had the rough start together but seems and looks like they’ve moved on like pros would do. Hard to say, the staff has always done a good job of keeping things in-house.

          • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

            Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 8:56 AM on November 9, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            LNJ definitely passes up too many shots Wide open shots his team works hard to get him and then he tanks the entire possession standing there. I’m a big fan of his defense, the lack of aggression taking shots is a large problem.

    • keen observer

      keen observer 7:28 AM on November 9, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      The Celtics have 3 years of rebuilding on us which has given them stability and the ability to make trades with the assets they have accumulated and sign free agents, one of whom we should have signed (Isaiah Thomas), who they were able to turn into Kyrie Irving. Even though they were thin last night, Brad Stevens has them playing system basketball. Luke is still in the infant stages of figuring that out with this personnel. It is understandable.

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 7:53 AM on November 9, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Aloha, Michael,

      Great post. I agree 100% that Luke screwed up last night. I just don’t get it. He is doing to Randle what he did to Kuzma, which is refuse to put him in the best situation for him to succeed in order to play another player who hasn’t earned the right to play. It’s a terrible message to send to the team from a coach who said starting positions were wide open in camp. Luke’s lucky the players like him so much that they stay focused and positive.

      I understand what Luke tried to do with Luol, Larry and Andrew but those were dumb decisions and Luke’s lucky neither Kuzma nor Randle has reacted negatively, which only further proves he made the wrong moves. It’s frustrating when you feel you cannot trust your coach to make the right substitutions. Hopefully, Luke will remember last night. I give the players a lot of credit for fighting back, especially Julius Randle, who once again ignited a terrific Lakers comeback.

      As for the reports from Woj about Randle being done as far as the Lakers, I now am in favor of the Lakers considering keeping Randle and Clarkson and just signing one max free agent next summer. If you look around the league today and see the rising importance of small ball, I think it might be a dumb move to let a player who can impact the team defensively the way Julius has. How many players can impact a team off the bench at both ends of the court like that?

      Lots of teams supposedly play small ball but it’s really just putting a 3-point shooter at the 5. The real winning combination is a guy who can shoot the 3, protect the rim, and switch onto guards like Draymond Green can. While Julius is not at that level in shooting or defense, I think what he’s shown this year is enough that the Lakers need to keep their options open. I used to laugh at the Draymond Green comparisons but more and more, I’m starting to believe them.

      I don’t know why Luke has it in his head not to play Julius. Hopefully, his assistants will lobby hard for him to get his rotations in order. With the right guys playing at the right times, we could easily be 7-4 at this point instead of 5-6. And that’s on Luke. I know we missed a lot of valuable development time due to the shortened camp and injuries but we will woe these losses later in the year when we have improved and are beating these same teams were losing to right now and challenging for a playoff spot. Time to get it together, Luke. You’re a much better coach than you showed last night. Learn a lesson and get better just like your players.

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 8:40 AM on November 9, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Bogut played about 5.minutes in the 1st quarter.
      That ain’t what lost the game.
      It was a 6pt game in the 2nd and a 2pt game midway thru the 3rd. We’re always on Luke to try different lineups then jump on him when he does it but it doesn’t work out perfectly.

      Now…if he does it tonight then we got a problem…lol

      • Worthy42

        Worthy42 9:12 AM on November 9, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Maybe. But if we had not been down so big in the 1st, things might have turned out differently.

        • LakerTom (Publisher) 9:14 AM on November 9, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Always multiple reasons for losing. Starters sleepwalking. Luke putting in Bogut. Thought team did a great job coming back thanks to Julius. Loved the effort. Just ran out of gas and didn’t have that one player to close the game for us. Hopefully, one or more of our kids will become that player and we will sign one during summer.

      • keen observer

        keen observer 9:49 AM on November 9, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        We don’t need Bogut or Corey Brewer on this team. Waive one on them and bring Matt Thomas in from Europe.

    • Magic2Worthy

      Magic2Worthy 9:17 AM on November 9, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I think it’s much simpler….. We missed way too many threes (made 5/24)…. Make 9/24 and
      we win that game and people are freaking out!!!

      • LakerTom (Publisher) 9:23 AM on November 9, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Good point, Brad. Like every game, there are usually multiple things that affected the final outcome. I was proud of how we came back in a hostile environment after getting our clock cleaned to start out. Last year, we would have folded. Couple of months from now, we will win a game like this.

        • Magic2Worthy

          Magic2Worthy 9:28 AM on November 9, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          thanks!! The team goal this year is improvement… Lonzo needs to pick it up a bit, then everyone will get better. Not saying LB needs to hit a bunch of 3s, but get into the paint a bit more and find open people or score….. Remember his in the paint scoring % at UCLA was 72%. When we see that Lonzo, the team will be clicking!!

          • DJ2KB24

            DJ2KB24 10:03 AM on November 9, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Keep in mind that these paint protectors ain’t college kids. It is tough without blazing speed (Kyrie and a few others).

  • Michael H (Editor)

    Michael H (Editor) 10:12 PM on October 31, 2017 Permalink  

    Best Game of the Year 

    Aloha,

    Absolutely our best game of the year against a team that has been playing well. Everything clicked on both sides of the ball. It was interesting, the starters played well but the bench with some help from Ingram again was responsible for 18 of that 20 point lead. Randle, Kuzma, Clarkson and Hart really have it going as a unit.

     
    • Magic Phil

      Magic Phil 9:18 AM on November 1, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Now the question is how to play like this every game.

  • Michael H (Editor)

    Michael H (Editor) 1:33 PM on October 22, 2017 Permalink  

    Rotations 

    Aloha

    There are a lot of opinions as to what the Lakers rotations should look like. When thinking about it I have to remind myself that it is basically still training camp except the games count. In the past the season wouldn’t even open for another week. I have a feeling that Luke will be mixing it up well into November. Or perhaps he will do like the Warriors do and adjust the bench rotations by match up, using all 12 guys. So my rotation is based upon our opponent today. It probably will change by the game for awhile.

    I think only 4 players are locks. Lonzo, Brook, Ingram and KCP. Although I wasn’t real impressed with KCP in camp and he should be looking over his shoulder at Clarkson and Brewer who both have been playing well. I give Nance the start today. After a horrendous pre season he has played well in the last two. If we can get enough offense from the other starters he will probably stick because of defense.

    For the bench, honestly I have not been impressed with either back up point guard. I would play Clarkson at the point. He’s been making the effort to make plays for others and he has been our most consistent player through two. I would play Brewer at the 2. His defense has earned him minutes. I would go with Kuzma at the 3 and Randle at the 4. If his head and body are right I think he will get a lot of minutes in this one. Last year he played Cousins as well as can be expected and showed the ability to get into Cousins head and throw him off.
    I play Bogut at the 5 because I expect either AD or Cousins to be on the floor most of the times. But I wonder how much he will play this year. Seems like most teams are going small with their 2nd unit. Not a lot of big back ups in the league that you need to worry about. Any way that’s my rotations. Probably will Change by the game for me over the next month at least.

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 2:02 PM on October 22, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Aloha, Michael.

      Excellent post. I definitely agree with your starting 5 of Lonzo, KCP, Ingram, Nance, and Lopez.

      I also agree that I would go with Clarkson to backup Lonzo. He’s going to have the ball in his hands anyway and he’s been good at getting into the paint and creating shots for himself and teammates. I also like the idea of Brewer backing up KCP if not challenging him to start. Kuzma at the 3 and Randle at the 4 are obvious as is Bogut at the 5. So I also agree with your bench.

      That doesn’t mean that I think playing Clarkson, Brewer, Kuzma, Randle, and Bogut together is necessarily what I want to see. You’re putting three guys who can’t spread the defense on the floor together. I think it’s critical that Luke plays Kuzma with Lonzo so while I agree with the backups, I want to see blends of starters and bench play together rather than the bench on the floor together as a whole. I also want to see other guys get chances with Lonzo.

      One thing I would like Luke do is have the team play the same way when Lonzo is not in there. While I think Clarkson (or Caruso or Ennis) could run the same high spread pick-and-rolls that Lonzo is running, what I would like to see is Julius Randle bringing the ball up and taking Lonzo’s role as point forward. Next to Lonzo, Julius would be the Lakers’ next best player to come roaring off a high spread pick-and-roll surrounded ‘by 3-point shooters.

      Like Lonzo, Randle rumbling downhill off the pick would optimize his playmaking ability and give him space to attack the rim or find an open shooter. To do that, you need have at least 3 and preferably 4 shooters to space the floor, which is why I want to see Julius playing with a blend of starters and bench players. I think could be the vision Luke has for Julius, especially after seeing how it worked for Lonzo. Turns half court into full court. Just a shorter version of the same read and react and push the ball and attack. Jamie’s Spromotion offense.

      • LakerTom (Publisher) 2:19 PM on October 22, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I also agree about Bogut. I think we will see Nance play as our small ball 4 with Kuzma playing the 4 and Randle too if he can get his head and game right. Depends on the matchups. I think it’s a mistake to announce starting positions are open when he always intended for Nance to start. It would have been smarter for Luke to do what Kerr did with Iggy, which is approach him before the season with the idea. Anyway, water under the bridge at this point. I’m sure Luke wishes he did it differently now and will handle it better next time. Onus is now on Julius to man up and help the team and himself. The alternative is not pretty for the Lakers or Randle.

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 2:14 PM on October 22, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Positionless Basketball Depth Chart

      ———————————————--

      PG: Lonzo, Clarkson, Ennis, Caruso

      SG: KCP, Brewer, Hart, Blue

      SF: Ingram, Kuzma, Deng

      PF: Nance, Randle, Bryant

      CE: Lopez, Bogut, Zubac

      • keen observer

        keen observer 2:33 PM on October 22, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I agree that a three guard rotation of Lonzo, KCP and Clarkson makes the most sense, with Josh Hart getting some minutes here and there. That’s not positionless basketball; it’s a three guard rotation. That would give each of them 32 minutes, very reasonable considering the fact that each of them require 30+ minutes to be effective anyway. In terms of training camp KCP, I would give it no thought at all. He’ll be fine. He’s playing for big bucks next season, so I expect to see him locked in every game.

        • DJ2KB24

          DJ2KB24 2:55 PM on October 22, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          So would KCP be a team player and yield to Zonny, Ingy and Kuzzy or try to make hay in this year? I guess we will see.

          • keen observer

            keen observer 3:43 PM on October 22, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Don’t you think you make hay by winning? If the Lakers win, it means that KCP and his teammates are being efficient. That makes hay, don’t you think? Besides, he’s a D/3 guy supposedly, like a cheap imitation of Klay, so it’s in his DNA to be a team player.

    • mclyne32 (Director) 4:15 PM on October 22, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I’ll leave the rotation decisions to Luke.
      I just want to see guys communicate with one another on the defensive end, coupled with focused individual D.
      If you aren’t giving 100% on D, you should be riding the pine.
      I’ve been very impressed with Lonzo’s effort on this end. I’m so glad that the guy who’s supposed to lead us into the next era of Winning Laker Ball plays hard on both sides of the ball.

    • Michael H (Editor)

      Michael H (Editor) 5:53 PM on October 22, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Aloha Tom

      I totally agree that they should play Clarkson as back up point guard and Randle as point forward. He’s a good play maker. I think it would work.

      As for small ball 5, Luke had Randle there in pre season. He’s our strongest forward and holds his own against bigger players. Even Cousins could not push him around. If he gets his head back on straight I think we may see him matched up against Cousins today.

  • Michael H (Editor)

    Michael H (Editor) 2:16 PM on July 22, 2017 Permalink  

    A rose colored glass half full thing 

    With all the talked about making space for two max contracts I will offer a different take. I look at the Warriors and unless we have a couple of young players take huge leaps it really doesn’t matter which max guys you sign. They won’t beat the Warriors. So I would stand pat and see how the kids play because it could change the narrative if they play well.

    One thing I have noticed is players start to break out from around 23 to 26. It’s not a hard rule but it’s kind of the norm. KCP is 24 and I think was on the cusp of breaking out last year. If he does it offers an interesting problem for management. Now Randle is 22. With the addition of Ball, Lopez and his new body he could be primed for a break out year as well regardless of how well he shoots the 3( I do believe he will shoot at least the 30% that Draymond did) now let’s say Ball has a ROY type year and Ingram steps up big, what do you do next summer?

    For me you go hard at Cousins and that’s it. You can’t out Warrior the Warriors so you need to create matchup problems. The Warriors are vulnerable inside and the boards. A combination of Boogie and Randle up front could exploit those weaknesses.

    I am not saying they would challange the Warriors in 2018 but as Ball and the kids grow with Boogie on board I think they could by 2019. Ball and Ingram could be superstars and Randle and KCP could be all stars. And Boogie already is. By 2020 we could be the best team in the NBA with a long run ahead.

     
    • tate793

      tate793 2:29 PM on July 22, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Plus, our bench is going to be younger, more athletic, and versatile, than GSW. Their team is banging on the door of the downhill slide. GS is one injury away from being dethroned.-

      • keen observer

        keen observer 3:46 PM on July 22, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        That’s right, Mr. Tate! This is going to be an INCREDIBLY athletic team and with the additions of KCP and Brook, not to mention the natural growth of Randle, Ingram, Nance and Clarkson, I think we’re going to shock some people. We added the one point guard on the planet who will instantly make everyone better in Lonzo. I’m very excited.

        • tate793

          tate793 4:28 PM on July 22, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          You said it, Mr. Keen. Been a spell since we’ve been this excitable. Gotta trust the process, enjoy the climb. Patience is a virtue that is nigh extinction. Impatience can wreak havoc on the future. HeII, Tom’s close to premature ejaculation!

          • keen observer

            keen observer 5:39 PM on July 22, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            LOL! I think this “sacred cap space to attract two max FAs” is just a ruse to get this young, talented roster to focus, gel and play hard for 48 minutes every night so that ALL of them have an opportunity to maximize their star potential. IF they do, we’ll be a playoff team, sign ONE max guy (PG or LBJ) and re-sign KCP and Lopez to 1+1’s. That’s my early prediction, Mr. Tate (subject to change, of course).

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 2:32 PM on July 22, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Aloha, Michael,

      I could definitely be on board not chasing two max-contract players next year just as I would with passing on LeBron. I prefer the balance and depth that you would have to sacrifice for a super team. Adding one superstar to a developed core like the Warriors did is the ideal solution. Only problem is Magic is set on two max players far as I can see and it’s PG and LBJ that he wants. Hopefully, he is smart enough to keep an open mind and see what happens.

      I find the Lakers current starting lineup and roster intriguing. I like Lopez skill set at center and KCP’s at shooting guard. The more we run, the more I like Randle’s potential. Lonzo could help him enough to buy him time to learn to shoot and defend. I also still like Nance, Zubac, and Brewer, whose speed could be a great weapon with Lonzo. Maybe Brook and a breakout Julius would be better than PG? Maybe Kyle Kuzma will be this year’s Devin Booker.

      The good is everything is just talk for now and how guys grow and develop and who has great years and off years and who changes their minds a year from now will certainly create a new environment. I’m just thankful we’re on the road back to being to being competitive.

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 2:34 PM on July 22, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Earv n Rob have each stated more than once their intention to go after 2 max-type guys next summer. Everything they’ve done this off-season has done nothing but reinforce that gameplan. Not sure what folks are seeing that makes them believe EnR are gonna deviate from this strategy. ..

      • LakerTom (Publisher) 2:41 PM on July 22, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Chances are we look to add two max contracts next year because superteams are what you’re going to need to be beat the Warriors. But what if we found that Lopez was the perfect center to punish the Warriors inside and still spread the floor for all of our shooters and drivers? What if KCP has a breakout year and averages 20/4/4. What if LeBron has an off year and wants a 5-year supermax contract? What if Cousins, Westbrook, and George sign with their existing teams? I think Magic and Rob are smart enough to change and adapt course depending on the circumstances. Good as Lakers fans to have the opportunity to be debating this rather than whether to fire Byron Scott.

        • Michael H (Editor)

          Michael H (Editor) 2:59 PM on July 22, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          That’s my point as well Tom. We don’t know what the free agents are going to do in a year. I’m not saying Magic and Rob won’t chase max guys in 2018 but I just don’t feel like they need to make anymore moves this year to prepare for 2018. Let the kids play and see what you have.

      • MongoSlade

        MongoSlade 2:59 PM on July 22, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Lol…you typed “what if” four separate times.

        I don’t think any of those hypotheticals would lead EnR away from their original plan. Ain’t no way in hell you keep KCP or Brook or Ju or JC when you think you can land LBJ or PG.

        And I don’t even really want Lebron because of his age and knowing we’re gonna get stuck paying him 40mill at age 40…but that doesn’t keep me from seeing the writing on the wall…

        • LakerTom (Publisher) 3:16 PM on July 22, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          I think we all pretty much agree Magic wants two max players. We all just have different opinions who those players should be and whether 2 near stars would be better than a second max star. All questions to be answered by next year.

        • MongoSlade

          MongoSlade 3:21 PM on July 22, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          They’ve told us in no uncertain terms what Plan A is.
          Everything else is just Plan H.

          • mud

            mud 3:28 PM on July 22, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            plan A at that moment.

            it’s not cast in concrete.

            • John M.

              John M. 4:19 PM on July 22, 2017 Permalink

              Magic said, “We have a solid team with enough cap space next year to sign 2 max players.” We’ll know soon enough how that plays out.

            • tate793

              tate793 4:20 PM on July 22, 2017 Permalink

              Paul George cinched it for me when he crawfished about being “hell bent” on coming to the Lakers. That’s what we get for listening to rumors and reading too much into nuances and swallowing everything that lands on our plate.

            • mud

              mud 4:22 PM on July 22, 2017 Permalink

              Lopez and KCP are one, who’s the other?

              hahaha!

            • tate793

              tate793 4:23 PM on July 22, 2017 Permalink

              Like John said, we’ll know soon enough. No point in killing the hog only to find out that nobody wants bacon.

            • mud

              mud 4:27 PM on July 22, 2017 Permalink

              i don’t want bacon.

              i could give two poops about this subject ’cause two poops is all it’s worth. the further the Lakers get from trading DLo, the better i feel about it. i was disturbed for a moment because i had been rooting for him, but now i have a wonderful feeling of lightness that he’s gone. we’ll know how long that good feeling lasts soon enough, too.

            • tate793

              tate793 4:32 PM on July 22, 2017 Permalink

              We need to table it until this time next year.

          • MongoSlade

            MongoSlade 4:52 PM on July 22, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            IF Lebron is available for trade then nobody’s waiting around to see if Ju upped his game over the summer or if Brook is the “perfect fit”. They’ll be gone on the 1st thing smokin towards Ohio…

            • tate793

              tate793 5:29 PM on July 22, 2017 Permalink

              That was the same idea with PG. But, how’d that work out?

            • MongoSlade

              MongoSlade 5:38 PM on July 22, 2017 Permalink

              Very different cuz PG didn’t have veto power.
              Lebron does….

            • mclyne32 (Director) 9:33 PM on July 22, 2017 Permalink

              I agree, Mongo.
              There is not one GM, other than Myers, who is not lining up 10 different trade scenarios for LBJ right now.

    • tate793

      tate793 1:41 AM on July 23, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Yes, the trade itself might have not been within PG’s power to veto, that’s not the problem. The problem is PG saying the talk of him being “heII bent” on coming to LA was “overstated”. He furthrr suggested how ludicrous it would be for him to leave OKC if he had success there. Nobody, but PG, knows what would have taken place if PG had a no-trade clause.

      We’ll have to wait, and see, if Magic & Pelinka offer up trade scenarios. Again, why trade away players to get someone who is looking to come here, anyway, AND has the power to veto any proposed trade?

      • mclyne32 (Director) 9:25 AM on July 23, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Because a whole lot changes every year through out an NBA season.
        I’m not for trading for LBJ, but I’m guessing that Magic and Rob are.

      • MongoSlade

        MongoSlade 12:15 PM on July 23, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        If PG had veto power then I seriously doubt he’d be in OKC right now. But since he’s stuck there, he’s gonna say the right things to make it thru the season.

        • tate793

          tate793 3:23 PM on July 23, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Ok. I’ll buy that. But only with the caveat that PG would have DEFINITELY vetoed the trade to OKC. And, that he doesn’t re-up wigh them.

  • Michael H (Editor)

    Michael H (Editor) 8:29 AM on July 11, 2017 Permalink  

    No such thing as a sure thing 

    Paul George Describes Interest In Lakers As ‘Overstated’
    JUL 11, 2017 10:37 AM

    Paul George clarified his position on the possibility of joining the Los Angeles Lakers as a free agent in 2018.

    “I grew up a Lakers and a Clippers fan,” George says. “I idolized Kobe. There will always be a tie here, a connection here. People saying I want to come here, who doesn’t want to play for their hometown? That’s a dream come true, if you’re a kid growing up on the outskirts of L.A., to be the man in your city. But it’s definitely been overstated. For me, it’s all about winning. I want to be in a good system, a good team. I want a shot to win it. I’m not a stats guy. I’m playing this game to win and build a legacy of winning. I’ve yet to do that. I’m searching for it. If we get a killer season in Oklahoma, we make the conference finals or upset the Warriors or do something crazy, I’d be dumb to want to leave that.”

    The Lakers are building around Lonzo Ball, Brandon Ingram and cap space.

    “It’s too early for L.A.,” he says. “It would have to be a situation where the ball gets rolling and guys are hopping on. This guy commits, that guy commits. ‘Oh s—, now there’s a team forming.’ It has to be like that.”

    George is optimistic about what he and Russell Westbrook can build with the Oklahoma City Thunder.

    “I’m in OKC, so hopefully me and Russ do a good enough job and make it to the conference finals and love the situation, why not recruit someone to come build it with us? I’m open in this whole process.”

    LEE JENKINS/SPORTS ILLUSTRATED

     
    • Michael H (Editor)

      Michael H (Editor) 8:31 AM on July 11, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      And this is why you don’t trade any more young assets to dump salary.

      • MongoSlade

        MongoSlade 8:53 AM on July 11, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        You don’t need to dump any salary right now to sign PG next summer cuz you have Brook coming off the books…..

    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 9:18 AM on July 11, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Never was a sure thing and I’m not 100% sold on Paul George coming here, either. But getting rid of Mozgov was a necessity on many levels. If you want to hold onto those young assets you’ll need cap space to res-sign them or pursue free agents.

      • mclyne32 (Director) 9:25 AM on July 11, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Yup.
        A lot still to develop throughout the season before the trade deadline.

    • mclyne32 (Director) 9:20 AM on July 11, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Nothin in this life ever is but death, taxes, and most importantly: Jesus.

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 10:00 AM on July 11, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Or….he’s saying what he needs to say if he knows he’s gotta spend a year in OKC. Just gotta wait it out.

    • CSTracy10

      CSTracy10 11:10 AM on July 11, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      He has a full season in OKC, he has to say that.

  • Michael H (Editor)

    Michael H (Editor) 8:31 PM on July 8, 2017 Permalink  

    Magic and Rob 

    Magic and Rob

     
    • Michael H (Editor)

      Michael H (Editor) 8:33 PM on July 8, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Magic and Rob are behind the Ref. It’s the best I could do from the 2nd deck

    • tate793

      tate793 11:17 PM on July 8, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Zubac is on a slippery slope. Brook and Bryant are gonna be tough competition for playing time.

      • keen observer

        keen observer 1:26 PM on July 9, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Brook Lopez will average more than 30 mpg. He’s a top 5 NBA center. Zubac will get his minutes and there will be small ball lineups, of course. Thomas Bryant might just get a two way contract for all we know. How can you jump to this “slippery slope” conclusion based on two SL games. A little more “over-reacting,” Mr. Tate? :)

    • tate793

      tate793 3:03 PM on July 9, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Nope. No over-reacting. Just an observation, Mr. Keen. Bryant’s footwork, activity around the basket, motor, and athleticism appear superior tp Zubac’s. 3pt range and glass work, too.

  • Michael H (Editor)

    Michael H (Editor) 7:18 PM on July 8, 2017 Permalink  

    11 

    I understand why Ainge was high on Tatum. He is already an all NBA whiner. Whines on ever call

     
  • Michael H (Editor)

    Michael H (Editor) 4:21 PM on July 5, 2017 Permalink  

    Avery Bradley 

    It’s been reported that Avery Bradley is being shopped to clear cap space. He has a team friendly 8.8 mil contract and he will be a free agent next year. Considering the Celtic can’t take back salary what would you give up for him? While we will have 2 max slots maybe next year it doesn’t mean we will get two. Might be a guy you want to try out and have in case you don’t get your two all stars. Considering we have 8?guys under 25 already and a mandatory 1st round pick in 2019, I would be willing to give up the 2020 1st round pick and a 2nd maybe even two.

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 4:25 PM on July 5, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Aloha, Michael,

      I would love to get Bradley. He would immediately elevate our defense and would be perfect next to Lonzo. The Celtics need picks not salaries so our 2020 protected first rounder is all we would have to offer. That is probably more than we want to offer but to me, two players of Bradley’s value (Lopez and Bradley, e.g.) could be a better combination for the Lakers than a second max player. I would do it.

    • keen observer

      keen observer 4:27 PM on July 5, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      It seems to me that the Celtics don’t have much leverage here, so the way Danny Ainge is trying to create leverage is by shopping all three of these guys. We still own the rights to Brad Newley (2007) and Chinemelu Elonu (2009), so we trade one of them and a couple of second round picks in the future for either Bradley or Smart. That works for me.

    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 4:32 PM on July 5, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Nothing. Pure absorption into the Collective and a chirpy ‘thanks’ will be all the Celtics get.

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 5:22 PM on July 5, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      So what kind of deal would Celtics expect for Bradley to dump his salary?

    • therealhtj

      therealhtj 5:33 PM on July 5, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      They can have him for future considerations. F those Celtics. They want space for Hayward, that’s all I’d offer them.

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 5:53 PM on July 5, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      We had to give up DAR in order to dump salary. Why would we give up assets to ABSORB their salary? Fuqq that.

      Fans are grasping at anything right now.
      Just stay the course and wait til next summer.
      If it doesn’t work out we’ll still be in a better position to get some better dudes and offer more years.

      • LakerTom (Publisher) 5:57 PM on July 5, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Boston doesn’t want to take salary back. They want picks instead so they can open space. Bradley only has 1 year left on his contract so it wouldn’t compromise 2018-19. But it would definitely help the Lakers win more games this year and give them more flexibility and options next summer. Makes sense for Celtics to send him west too.

        What you would be giving up if you are committed to signing two max contract next summer is our 2020 first round pick, which is what you would have to give the Celtics to get them to trade Bradley into our $17M in cap space. Still leaves you will money left to spend on Rondo and ‘Ennis. Long shot but I would do it.

      • MongoSlade

        MongoSlade 6:11 PM on July 5, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I wouldn’t give up assets for what will most likely be a rental.
        I don’t think Earv & Rob are that thirsty…

  • Michael H (Editor)

    Michael H (Editor) 12:54 PM on July 5, 2017 Permalink  

    Summer League 

    Aloha,

    I’m in Vegas visiting my daughter. I’m taking my daughter and her boyfriend to Boston game Saturday. Is there any Lakerholics going to be there?

     
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