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  • Michael H (Editor)

    Michael H (Editor) 5:54 PM on July 7, 2018 Permalink  

    No no no!!!! 

    Josh Martin
    Josh Martin
    @JoshMartinNBA
    If I’m the Lakers, I might rather play Luol Deng (if he’s still on the roster) than bring in Melo
    Jordan Schultz
    @Schultz_Report
    Source close to Carmelo Anthony says the #Lakers are one of Melo’s preferred destinations, and that he’s high on chance to finally play with #LeBron. Keep in mind too, that Carmelo owns a house in LA.

     
    • Michael H (Editor)

      Michael H (Editor) 6:01 PM on July 7, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      We have been underwhelming since we landed Lebron but OMG I would lose all confidence in Magic if we sign Melo. It would be all about names and not team building. OKC was minus 14 with Melo on the court and plus 17 with him on the bench. They couldn’t even play him in crunch time in the playoffs. Considering he can’t play the 3 anymore he would be taking minutes from Kuz who is a much better player then he is.

    • NBA4ever

      NBA4ever 6:01 PM on July 7, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Nooooooooooo

  • Michael H (Editor)

    Michael H (Editor) 5:44 PM on July 5, 2018 Permalink  

    How much would give up for Kawahi? 

    Lakers Trade Rumors: Kawhi Leonard Prefers Clippers to Joining LeBron James

    ALEC NATHAN
    JULY 05, 2018
    Kawhi Leonard has reportedly cooled on the idea of joining the Los Angeles Lakers.

    Appearing on the Back to Back podcast on the Count The Dings Network on Thursday, ESPN.com’s Michael C. Wright indicated Leonard is now focusing on trying to land with the Los Angeles Clippers in the aftermath of LeBron James’ commitment to the Lakers.

    “The Lakers are not Kawhi’s preferred destination anymore,” Wright said. “He wants to go to the Clippers. Because he doesn’t want to go and be second fiddle to LeBron. That’s what I was told. I was told by somebody that would know. So right now the Clippers are where he wants to go.

    “But I’m also told—I talked to people within the Spurs organization—and they’re like, ‘Yeah he wants to go to the Clippers, but their assets are s–t at this point.'”

     
  • Michael H (Editor)

    Michael H (Editor) 1:48 PM on July 4, 2018 Permalink  

    Sign Brook already 

    Aloha

    Amir Johnson just resign with the 76ers. The list of starting quality centers is growing thin. Len’s still out there but he plays no defense. At this point I would just tell the Spurs let’s talk in February. They are not going to comprise any time soon. There is no reason for them to at this point of the year. We will not win it all this year Kawhi or no kawahi. And if there is something real happening with Dame, signing Lopez won’t matter because we would need to Deng to make a deal work.

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 2:02 PM on July 4, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I think the Lakers have already lined Brook up or are not worried about anybody else signing him. They’re obviously working on some potential trades and want to maintain as much flexibility as possible at this point. I fully expect some form of trade before the end of this week and then a Lopez signing

      I think the Lakers have played their Kawhi cards very well. Have held a tough line, showed they plan to sign him next summer, and there frankly are no real competitors willing to take a chance. Kawhi has shown not to be the risk free, low maintenance superstar everybody thought he once was. Including the Lakers.

    • Michael H (Editor)

      Michael H (Editor) 2:02 PM on July 4, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I think unless there is something out there that doesn’t require over paying I think they should tell Lebron we will look at trades in December. For instance KCP with Ball and Kuz would be enough to trade for Dame without Deng’s contract. I’ll be rooting for a really bad start for Portland.

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 2:07 PM on July 4, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      The only thing the Lakers are looking for right now is that second superstar. They know they have two shots at getting one this year. The first is this summer and their not going to quit until they’ve turned over every stone. We could see a lot of action in the next two days. I think the Spurs will cave.

      The trade deadline is the second opportunity and, if the Lakers strike out this summer, they will be going full tilt to add a superstar at the trade deadline. Lonzo, Brandon, Kyle, Josh, and every player on the team not named LeBron better hope to get out of the gate playing great or they won’t be here long.

      • Michael H (Editor)

        Michael H (Editor) 2:22 PM on July 4, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        One thing I was looking at Tom is if the Lakers brought back Myles Leonard’s 10 mil bad contract it could make Deng’s contract a little easier to swallow. Deng, Ball, Kuz and Zu just about gets it done.

        • LakerTom (Publisher) 2:34 PM on July 4, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Aloha, Michael,

          The good thing about our position right now is we dont have to make a move now. That’s the luxury and leverage that LeBron has given Magic with his four-year contract. If there was anything that turned me from a fan who didn’t want LeBron to come to one that’s thrilled he’s here, it’s his willingness to work with Magic and the Lakers. He is going to retire just like Kareem and Shaq wearing a purple and gold cap. We have the leverage and the assets that rebuilding teams are going to desperately want and a world of options, which means Magic is not going to take anything but a clear win to get the next superstar.

          I hate the idea of trading Lonzo Ball as I believe in the grand chemistry that Luke, Lonzo, and LeBron could create if they all got on the same page. It’s the dream I think has a chance to prevail although it will take serendipity and the Lakers being patient enough to give it a chance to happen before pulling the plug and going for more superstars. If we’re smart and patient in our negotiations, hopefully we’ll get out of the gate on fire and give the front office and LeBron second thoughts about what we need to be a contender.

          Good to see you recover from the Randle situation. I think Julius found a perfect place alongside AD with the Pelicans. I remember how distrought I was after the Lakers traded Russell. I almost feel like a traitor even thinking about trading Lonzo or Kyle, who is with Lonzo the players I think have the most potential to be superstars in their right. The only thing I’m grateful for is the LeBron who signed with us is the LeBron I was hoping and praying for. I’ll die if Lonzo and Kyle don’t get their chance to shine with LeBron.

          • mclyne32 (Director) 3:28 PM on July 4, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            I get where you’re coming from Tom, but I don’t think you would be that upset if giving up Lonzo and Kuz would net Lillard- a legitimate star who could create the same problems that LeBron and Kyrie did when they won a Chip together.
            Randle and Kuzma have become my favorite drafted Lakers since we signed Eddie and Van Exel, but if they need to be let go to make way for our next Championship Team, I’m good with it.

            • LakerTom (Publisher) 5:03 PM on July 4, 2018 Permalink

              My mind agrees even if my heart doesn’t, Matt. There are so many promising options in front of us. What we as bloggers and fans don’t have is the inside information that the front office has that leads them to decisions we don’t understand, like not prioritizing Randle or not signing Boogie. I’m happy with our moves so far and think Magic and Rob aren’t going to work hard to make sure we get the best possible deals and will wait if we have to. Can’t ask anything more than that. I’m hoping for but partially dreading the Lakers next big news announcement.

  • Michael H (Editor)

    Michael H (Editor) 5:26 PM on July 3, 2018 Permalink  

    Where is this guys head 

    Report: Kawhi Leonard More Open to Clippers After LeBron James Joins Lakers

    JOSEPH ZUCKER
    JULY 03, 2018
    One might expect LeBron James’ imminent move to the Los Angeles Lakers would give Kawhi Leonard even more reason to push for a trade to the Lakers, but the opposite may prove true.

    During an appearance on Fox Sports Radio’s The Herd with Colin Cowherd, Yahoo Sports’ Shams Charania reported Leonard may not be “jumping for joy” after James’ decision. Charania added the San Antonio Spurs star could become more receptive to a trade to the Los Angeles Clippers (h/t The Sports Daily’s Farbod Esnaashari).

    Klutch Sports Group announced Sunday that James will sign a four-year, $154 million deal with the Lakers.

    The Lakers have also agreed to deals with Lance Stephenson and JaVale McGee and will re-sign Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, according to ESPN.com’s Chris Haynes. Charania reported Rajon Rondo will sign a one-year contract as well.

    By adding James, Los Angeles snagged the biggest star on the free-agent market, but part of the team’s success in the offseason hinges on acquiring Leonard.

    Right now, either Rondo or Brandon Ingram is the Lakers’ second-best player behind James. Los Angeles has acted quickly to fill out the squad, but Rondo, Stephenson and McGee aren’t going to help bridge the gap between the Lakers and the Golden State Warriors.

    One could argue Leonard doesn’t drastically change matters either, but he’s an unquestioned superstar to pair with James. Selling free agents on the franchise’s long-term vision would be a lot easier in 2019 with two top-10 players on the roster.

    If Leonard is cooling on the idea of trying to force a trade to the Lakers or signing with the team next summer, then the problems are twofold.

    For one, the Lakers risk playing the 2018-19 season without a clear path to a title, which matters given that James turns 34 in December. In addition, Leonard’s change of heart could indicate James’ presence may not have the impact the team’s front office expected. Los Angeles is counting on more marquee names to follow James.

    Paul George agreed to a four-year, $137 million deal with the Oklahoma City Thunder, spurning the Lakers in the process. Following that by failing to secure a trade for Leonard would be cause for some concern despite having James’ commitment in the bag.

     
    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 5:33 PM on July 3, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Not sure why folks kept glossing over the part about him just wanting to come to LA. Don’t let Jerry West get in a room with him; could turn out to be kindred spirits.

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 5:39 PM on July 3, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Kawhi is a different dude for sure. But I can see the Lakers being the perfect place for him to hide with LeBron and the zoo drawing all the attention. With the Clippers, he would be up front all the time. Cuts both ways. Just trade for him so you don’t have to deal with that issue next summer. Bird in hand.

      • MongoSlade

        MongoSlade 5:50 PM on July 3, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Lol…the Clippers are never up front

        • LakerTom (Publisher) 5:53 PM on July 3, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          I meant Kawhi would be the face of the franchise with the Clippers which would make him the guy everybody came to interview after every game. I don’t think that’s what he wants. He just wants to play, get treated like a superstar, but not have to deal with the press and fans.

        • MongoSlade

          MongoSlade 5:58 PM on July 3, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          The 2nd best player on the Laker crazy train is probably gonna get more shine than the best player on the also-ran Clipps. Chris Carter was talking about the same thing this morning. Lakers need to make this deal and soon

    • Michael H (Editor)

      Michael H (Editor) 5:58 PM on July 3, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      3 injuries to the same quad. He has A beef with the most stable player friendly organization in the NBA. A team that players take pay cuts to stay. The best coach in the NBA, one that is universally loved by his players. Passing up a super max because Tony Parker hurt his feelings and that was the last straw. And we don’t even know if will hold up physically if the quad is a cronic condition that will continue to flair up. If we trade the farm for him and he doesn’t like the spot light we won’t be able to make a trade for another player. And while he is great player we still will need another year at the earliest to put a contender together. I can wait a year.

      • John M.

        John M. 6:11 PM on July 3, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I just saw something on MSN that said Spurs want Ingram, Kuzma, Hart, 2 firsts, and 2 pick swaps. So much for caving to pressure…

        • LakerTom (Publisher) 6:16 PM on July 3, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          they also included Hart,
          Start negotiating and see where you end up, John.
          Ingram, Hart, and Pick will be the deal.

        • Legend44

          Legend44 7:30 PM on July 3, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Agree, Michael H. And in a year we might rather have Ingram or Kuzma over Leonard straight up.

          • p ang

            p ang 7:38 PM on July 3, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            in a year Lakers can have all. why pick?

            • LakerTom (Publisher) 7:40 PM on July 3, 2018 Permalink

              See Paul George…

            • p ang

              p ang 8:23 PM on July 3, 2018 Permalink

              PG was coming to the Lakers because he might help them to get to the playoffs. When LBJ came it was to help them get to the Finals. Different goals. He got cold feet. KL is a totally different animal.

  • Michael H (Editor)

    Michael H (Editor) 5:47 PM on July 1, 2018 Permalink  

    You maybe right Tom 

    Chris Haynes
    Chris Haynes
    @ChrisBHaynes
    Free agent guard Kentavious Caldwell-Pope has agreed to a deal with the Los Angeles Lakers, league sources tell ESPN.

     
  • Michael H (Editor)

    Michael H (Editor) 1:13 PM on July 1, 2018 Permalink  

    The 35 million dollar question 

    Aloha,

    If you read any of the hysterical writers out there you would believe that if the Lakers do not sign Kawhi they won’t get Lebron. While most reports from around the NBA still feel that Lebron will sign with the Lakers. So the question is what do the Lakers know? Did Lebron’s agent slip some information in one of their daily chats “about KCP?” It is odd that the Lakers suddenly backed away from negotiations with the Spurs. If Magic didn’t know something wouldn’t they still be talking?

    All along Magic and Rob talked adding to their core not dismantling it. I believe they are trying to improve while keeping an eye on the future. And we don’t know what current players Lebron values on the roster. Again in their daily chats about KCP did Lebron’s agent let that slip as well? If we see the Lakers suddenly open aggressive trade talks with the Spurs then perhaps Kawhi is important to Lebron. If not then perhaps Lebron is okay with the Lakers plan that they accidentally let slip in their daily chats about KCP.

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 1:17 PM on July 1, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I could see a future where we suddenly had KCP, Nerlens Noel, Julius Randle, and Isaiah Thomas on 1-year short term contracts.

      • therealhtj

        therealhtj 1:22 PM on July 1, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Yeah, but contrarily, if the Lakers can’t get real max money guys to commit, giving way above market deals to unKlutch Sports clients should be every Lakers fan worst nightmare. One Earv and Rob need to put their foot down on. No Lebron is better than the wasteland of awful contracts the Cavs will take years to shed.

        • LakerTom (Publisher) 1:29 PM on July 1, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          I’m only talking about short-term deals and only reason to do it with Kutch Sports clients is to get a better deal or sure thing because of LeBron. Not going to go down the Cavs path of LeBron as GM. He can help recruit but Magic and Rob make the decisions. Not LeBron.

          • therealhtj

            therealhtj 1:47 PM on July 1, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            I get what you’re saying, but historically, you sign LBJ, you take all the nonsense that come with him. In that case, I’d pass.

            • Magicman (Editor)

              Magicman (Editor) 1:50 PM on July 1, 2018 Permalink

              You’re so full of s**t right now. Lol.

            • therealhtj

              therealhtj 1:51 PM on July 1, 2018 Permalink

              If contingent to signing him, you have to give Nerlens and KCP the same deals he got JR and Tristan, you still say yes?

            • LakerTom (Publisher) 1:55 PM on July 1, 2018 Permalink

              Of course not. The Cavs were pussies. The Lakers aren’t the Cavs.

            • Magicman (Editor)

              Magicman (Editor) 1:56 PM on July 1, 2018 Permalink

              We’re lucky they f****d up. Usually the NBA would interfere to make sure he stays. Lol.

            • Magicman (Editor)

              Magicman (Editor) 1:58 PM on July 1, 2018 Permalink

              For Noel for a bridge? Small sacrifice but yup.

            • therealhtj

              therealhtj 2:02 PM on July 1, 2018 Permalink

              Stop strawmanning me -- Lebron says “I’m coming, but you gotta break bread for my boyz Nerlens and KFC. I’m thinking 4/80 for NN, and 3/54 for K. You do that, and I’m yours.” This is what he’s traditionally done to take care of his Akron crew. This is what Riles wouldn’t do, and he lost a prime Lebron. It’s what Gilbert’s sick of now.. Hell, dude got Bledsoe a max contract just for an outside promise of looking the the Suns next time he’s a FA.

              If this is the cost, they need to pass.

            • Magicman (Editor)

              Magicman (Editor) 2:16 PM on July 1, 2018 Permalink

              Man, you’d give back the winning Lottery Ticket to the Powerball Company because you wouldn’t want the Tax?

              GTFO, friend. Lol.

            • therealhtj

              therealhtj 2:26 PM on July 1, 2018 Permalink

              This ain’t the powerball. This more like a million dollar scratcher and all your old cousins come out the woodwork looking to hold something.

            • Magicman (Editor)

              Magicman (Editor) 2:29 PM on July 1, 2018 Permalink

              Would you say the same about Wilt or Shaq? Nope

              You don’t like the man. That is clear.

            • therealhtj

              therealhtj 2:40 PM on July 1, 2018 Permalink

              I think he’s a little too old to give away the farm for. I really don’t like the collusion between him and Klutch. If he take a 1+1 again as expected and you’re stuck for 4 years with mediocre trash like Nerlens and KFC, I don’t think the juice is worth the squeeze. If he signs a 4 year with team control in the 4th season, then sure, we can break bread with your sorry homies.

            • mud

              mud 3:13 PM on July 1, 2018 Permalink

              the Lakers might hire Kentucky Fried Chicken?

              or if it’s KCP, he is not trash, even though he’s no star.

  • Michael H (Editor)

    Michael H (Editor) 12:00 PM on July 1, 2018 Permalink  

    Here you go Tom 

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 12:16 PM on July 1, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Aloha and Thanks, Michael.

      Don’t see any way that Morey does not match, especially after losing Ariza, but I’m starting to love those luxury taxes. He’s not as good a match to play with Julius and it’s starting to look like Randle’s best option might be a one-year deal with Lakers. I wouldn’t insult him with the QO but would love to have him back and keep our options open. Could be win-win for Lakers and Julius. Benefits of being left at the alter. But man, I love Capella and going after RFA’s with money you’re planning to save for next season is a smart tactic I’ve proposed before.

  • Michael H (Editor)

    Michael H (Editor) 1:09 PM on June 30, 2018 Permalink  

    Lakers release Thomas Bryant 

    Shams Charania
    Shams Charania
    @ShamsCharania
    The Lakers have released forward Thomas Bryant

     
    • NBA4ever

      NBA4ever 1:13 PM on June 30, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Wtf? Reading this blog I thought he was the next Dream??? smh lol

      • John M.

        John M. 1:14 PM on June 30, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Guess Pelinka fell out of love with him.

        • John M.

          John M. 1:22 PM on June 30, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          FO’s credibility just got bruised…

          Pelinka Says Thomas Bryant ‘Going To Be A Big Piece Of The Future’

          OLEG MOSEICHUK
          Lakers News: Rob Pelinka Calls Thomas Bryant ‘Intoxicating’ 3-Point Shooter Who Is ‘Going To Be A Big Piece Of The Future’

          1:32 PM -- Feb 26, 2018

          “In particular with Thomas Bryant, we all know the game is about shooting bigs. It was just stretch fours at one point, now you’ve got to have stretch fours and stretch fives, and Thomas Bryant is a seven-foot stretch five. Gunnar Peterson and our weight staff have done an unbelievable job just getting him locked in to being an ‘NBA strong’ player. His body fat went way down under 10 percent, he’s eating clean and you can just see the wiry, strong way he’s growing into his body.”

          “He’s just an unbelievable, almost intoxicating 3-point shooter from the top of the key. It’s almost automatic. As he grows into his body and the pace of the NBA game you can see Lonzo coming off that high ball screen, you can see Kuz in the space that Thomas Bryant will open up for our cutters and our slashers. We do feel like he’s going to be a big piece of the future and how we want to play, and how we want to build this.”

      • mclyne32 (Director) 1:26 PM on June 30, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Lol!

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 1:24 PM on June 30, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Wow! Kept Zubac and cut Thomas. Guess there was a reason after all why he didn’t get any PT on the varsity squad.

      • keen observer

        keen observer 1:40 PM on June 30, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I personally like Zubac better, but could this be pointing to signing Boogie and Lopez at the Room Exception? Could it be the Kawhi trade hypothetical? Could it simply be that they like Moe Wagner a lot better? Could it be ‘None of the Above’?

    • mclyne32 (Director) 1:27 PM on June 30, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Guess there can only be one great Bryant.

      • Michael H (Editor)

        Michael H (Editor) 1:41 PM on June 30, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        They had until the 5th to waive him. This might mean they anticipate something big happening before then. They need the cap space. As for Zubac he maybe part of a trade they have lined up. One other thing to keep in mind if this is not about a trade is while Bryant tore up the G league, when Zu went down last year he was even better and Bryant played behind him.

        • LakerTom (Publisher) 2:00 PM on June 30, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Good point. Michael. It resonates with the fact that it was Zu who got the opportunity and not Thomas when Brook was down.

        • mclyne32 (Director) 2:27 PM on June 30, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          I could see him fitting into what the Spurs like to do quite nicely.

    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 2:10 PM on June 30, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Honestly I think a lot of the noise around TB was just a lure for teams to take him and Deng. When there’s that much hype and no Pt the smoke you’re seeing isn’t from any fire but a smoke machine. Wish him luck and he could be back.

  • Michael H (Editor)

    Michael H (Editor) 1:02 PM on June 28, 2018 Permalink  

    From my Econ 101 days 

    (the law of) diminishing returns
    phrase of diminish
    noun: law of diminishing returns
    1.
    used to refer to a point at which the level of profits or benefits gained is less than the amount of money or energy invested.

    At what point does the cost for Kawhi become greater then the value he brings to the team? And do you even make this trade without a commitment from Lebron? He will be a free agent next year.

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 1:57 PM on June 28, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      In this case, I think the issue is more about leverage than a point of diminishing returns. I think we have more leverage and can cut a deal well below the point of diminishing returns or our bottom line deal.

      I think the leverage is starting to swing in our favor. I think LeBron is going to come regardless, which means the pressure on them to make a trade is not as great as it is becoming for the Spurs, who know the best player they’re going to be able to get is Brandon Ingram.

      The rest is just trying to get as much more as they can but they need to make this deal because what they’re going to be able to get is going to drop rapidly and won’t include any Ingrams. I’m hoping we can keep both Kuzma and Hart.

      Maybe give up Ingram and Wagner, Zubac, or Thomas, plus our 2019 and 2021 first rounders.
      Maybe include Randle in a sign-and-trade if we had more time.

      I don’t see us saying no to including Hart unless we’re sure the Spurs will accept because they have no choice.

    • p ang

      p ang 2:38 PM on June 28, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Lakers get Kawhi in exchange for Ingram + pick then to heck with LBJ, bring in Boogie then you get a contender.

  • Michael H (Editor)

    Michael H (Editor) 12:59 PM on June 21, 2018 Permalink  

    And then there is this 

    For those thinking that the Spurs will be forced to trade with the Lakers.

    Ramona Shelburne
    Ramona Shelburne
    @ramonashelburne
    Within the last week the Lakers contacted the Spurs to discuss a Kawhi Leonard trade. As one source put it, “they basically shut the door on us.”

     
  • Michael H (Editor)

    Michael H (Editor) 12:56 PM on June 21, 2018 Permalink  

    And then there is this 

    For those thinking that the Spurs will be forced to trade Kawhi to the Lakers.

    Ramona Shelburne
    Ramona Shelburne
    @ramonashelburne
    Within the last week the Lakers contacted the Spurs to discuss a Kawhi Leonard trade. As one source put it, “they basically shut the door on us.”

     
  • Michael H (Editor)

    Michael H (Editor) 5:04 PM on June 18, 2018 Permalink  

    So how does this work? 

    Aloha
    So I’m confused. I’m told by guys on the blog that Lebron will not take a pay cut because of his position in the union. But how can we put a 3 star team together without some player discounts? This is the way I see it:
    Lebron=Durant
    Thompson>PG
    Draymonds defense+Curry’s
    Offense>Kawhi
    Warriors depth>Lakers depth.

    So say a string of miracles occur and we are able to move Deng and keep Lonzo, Hart and Bryant to go with our new big 3. With incomplete roster cap holds that is over 100 mil in salary. Also we have not created one mismatch to exploit. Perhaps Brook will play for the MLE who knows. But anyway you look at it even with our new big 3 it’s going to be tough to get by the Warriors.
    So what is the better team? Lebron, PG and Kawhi? Or would keeping Kuz and Ingram be better then Kawhi. Or how about PG, Kawhi, Randle and 2o mil for a couple of quality vets? Or last years team with Lebron and maybe some vet depth. Or Lebron, Kawhi and Randle and some vet depth.

    For me personally the big 3 would be the worst team of those options. Since it will very hard to get past the Warriors any combo that allows us to keep and develop our 5 young core guys would be my best option.

     
    • John M.

      John M. 5:10 PM on June 18, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      The long view is to time our ascent to peak as the Warriors, hopefully, are aging out of dominance. You know, be patient. I have to believe management is well aware of this, and will only accelerate things if the opportunity can’t be ignored.

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 5:20 PM on June 18, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Again…Earv & Rob weren’t brought in here to shepherd young talent & wait 3 or 4 years for the Warriors to decline. They were brought here to sign big names and compete NOW. GSW has been a game away from elimination in the CONFERENCE 2 of the last 3 seasons…I rather take my shot than hide in the corner waiting for them to fall apart.

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 5:26 PM on June 18, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Like everything, there’s a happy medium. The chance to trade for Kawhi gives us a chance to get two superstars and still have enough cap space to keep Randle and create a bench. Might not be enough but I would love to see a Lakers team with Kawhi and LeBron give the Warriors a run for their money. They’d be a lot bigger challenge than any of LeBron’s Cavs teams.

      I just hope we don’t do something crazy just to get three superstars and give away three or four draft picks and Kuzma to do it. There’s definitely a point where two superstars and a bench > three superstars and an empty bench. We need to keep youth, especially if one of the superstars we end up with is 33-year old LeBron James. Need a future third superstar.

    • mud

      mud 5:43 PM on June 18, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      who cares? this is so much meaningless drama over something that might not even have a chance of occurring.

    • Michael H (Editor)

      Michael H (Editor) 7:00 PM on June 18, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Magic and Rob are charged with putting the best team on the floor and also the future of the team. They have said all along that our young core is good enough to attract top free agents. I personally feel that 3 stars and little else behind them would not be the best team possible. I would rather have Ingram and Kuzma then Kawhi. Kuz and Bi combined for 32, 12 and almost 6 assists last year. And at 20 and 22 they will both be better next year. I think their over all value out weighs what Kawhi can contribute. And if you think the Lakers wouldn’t have to give up both, your fooling yourself. The Celtics could send Brown, Morris and a couple of the lesser contracts along with a likely lottery pick. Ainge does that deal every day of the week for a shot at a ring next year. So the Lakers offer would have to include both BI and Kuz.
      I mean if it came down to it I would rather have Randle then PG. he can guard all 5 positions and his strengths attacks the Warriors weaknesses. Actually one could argue that Lebron with most of last years team might be the best team we could have on the floor. Because all 5 of the kids will be better then last year. Lopez and Randle attacking at the Warriors inside and Kuz with Randle for small ball. No one we can get would be better then Randle at small ball center. Then IT, Kuz and Hart on the 2nd unit. They may not beat the Warriors next year but There is no guarantee that a 3 Star no depth line up would have a better chance. Then next year who knows. We will have a better idea of what these kids are going to be. It’s a gamble either way. Also keep in mind AD can opt out in 2020. So trade dead line 2019 it would be nice to have some young quality trade pieces available.

    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 9:00 PM on June 18, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I think the following:

      -Talking big and selling the dream to the fans is part of the job. That’s mostly what we’ve seen so far, they stated last summer (after scant months on the job) they weren’t going to go for big talent and, indeed, their biggest move was moving Mozgov and Deng for what turned out to be Brook and Kuzma. Solid haul and one we were lucky to bring back.

      -Talking big and selling the dream to free agents is also part of the job…but a lot harder. I think they’re hoping to convince Paul George to take a pay cut. If LBJ is available come free agency and is signalling interest it’s basically doing due diligence to at least call and see what the actual situation here. While true he has a leadership position in the NBAPU and has publicly stated, multiple times, that he won’t take a pay cut one should also ask oneself: what else should he say? “I’m the greatest player on Earth playing on my 3rd-below-market value deal, can’t wait to it again!” Of course not, he’s doing the smart thing and is insisting (as I also expect he will at the bargaining table) on max money. From wherever.

      -Building a team with only draft picks is insanity. Not even Golden State did it, for all the hype. they signed Bogut, Livingston, and most importantly Andre Iguodala. Their kids flounder in the playoffs that first year without those three and it’s got nothing to do with minutes played. You need quality talent to augment youthful vigor, veteran smarts to keen the raw edge of an untested player. Do we have players that fit that basic description? Maybe? None of our vets, save Thomas, has done much damage in the playoffs. The kids can’t get there on their own so…we still have no real clue.

      -Rob and Magic aren’t fully vested in loading up this basket with eggs only to have no eggs for later baskets. They’ve said as much, multiple times. i take them at their word. If a deal to offload Deng for Leonard comes up the Lakers would be insane not to pull that trigger no matter what other young player it cost them. Barring a failure of a physical or major concerns from the training staff you trade young talent for a young superstar like Kawhi. You bring excitement and winning to STAPLES if it takes max money to get LeBron and, again, if there’s a trade that involves Luol Deng’s money taking up a chunk of that salary then you have to pull that trigger.

      -None of the players mentioned have made themselves available, yet. One assumes Paul George won’t simply opt in, one assumes the Pelicans aren’t going to offer Cousins a max deal and one assumes LBJ is determined to leave Cleveland. But the flip side of all those coins is those franchises are also in the same position we are: win now. LBJ has more of a legacy in Cleveland than anywhere else and can recoup the most money from past savings. Not everyone wants to play for a historic franchise in a down swing. What if you fail?

      At any rate, this all feathers and posturing right now, nothing concrete. As these guys choose to opt out (and some may wait right up to the deadline) the real fun will begin!

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 6:33 AM on June 19, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      It’s almost as if nobody has been paying attention to how the Buss family have run the Lakers over the past 4 decades & 10 titles…

      • Magicman (Editor)

        Magicman (Editor) 7:44 AM on June 19, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I have, MS. Lol.

        We’ve got a small percentage of dissent. A group of Lakers fans, quibbling about not wanting to acquire to NBA Finals MVPs, one whose won a couple of those.

        Why?

        Because kids barely old enough to know better, might reach their potential.

        Meanwhile, Kawhi and LeBron are above and beyond thst word.

        No group of young players can equal what Kawhi and LeBron have accomplished as individuals.

        Not really a hard thing to understand

      • LakerTom (Publisher) 10:30 AM on June 19, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        It’s not the fans haven’t been paying attention. It’s just that you can’t expect that, after being sold on how great these kids could become and watching them grow and develop and show glimpses of greatness, fans are going to embrace replacing them with other team’s stars, including an extremely polarizing 33-year old superstar whose legacy could engulf the Lakers.

        Even the Lakers understand the dynamic that they can’t just throw everybody away, otherwise they would just trade Ingram, Kuzma, Hart, Deng, and picks and pave the way for a team composed of Lonzo, PG, LeBron, and Kawhi and whatever leftovers they could put together. That’s a deal I think the Spurs would jump at and then the Lakers would have the cap space.

        But would LeBron and PG want to come to an empty cupboard team. James just went through hell on a team without depth and we saw how much depth played a part in the Rockets and Warriors series. Yes, you need superstars but it’s certainly not clear that three superstars is going to give you a better chance at dethroning the Warriors than two superstars and a bench.

        • Magicman (Editor)

          Magicman (Editor) 11:25 AM on June 19, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Yes, it’s the fans perception as a problem. It’s called Cognitive Dissonance. Very popular. Lol.

          • mud

            mud 11:55 AM on June 19, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Cognitive Dissonance?

            Kahwi has an injury that, if one believes the reports that supposedly come from Kahwi’s doctors, will probably end his career, and will, if true, hobble him for the rest of his career. IF THIS IS TRUE, i’ll take my chances on the kids.

            all of the greats start off as infants that must learn to be champions. as of right now, today, not 3 years ago, Ingram is more likely to be able to play next year than Kahwi.

            perhaps Kawhi is just faking about whether or not he can play because he’s in a snit. if that’s the case, he’s a loser who isn’t worth the money. no p***y-soft players are needed of any skill level.

  • Michael H (Editor)

    Michael H (Editor) 1:57 PM on June 16, 2018 Permalink  

    Cap Space 

    Aloha,

    Cap space is nice to have but we are seeing the flip side of that space. The rumor was that the Lakers could have extended Randle for between 12 and 15 mil. If that had been done they could have traded for Kawhi without having to include Deng. And it might have only cost one of our young core and some picks. Now our best chance to land Kawhi in a trade is to spike Pop and Buford’s wine with some acid and convince them that helping LA build a power house by taking would be a kind and groovy thing. I think it’s important to try and retain Julius not just for what he brings but as future trade chip. You just don’t let someone that good walk.

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 2:19 PM on June 16, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I just hope Magic and Rob can see past their bromance with signing an 33-year old LeBron is not the smart move for the Lakers to make with their young core. Trade for Kawhi, sign PG, and keep Randle and Thomas and continue building continuity and establishing an identity.

  • Michael H (Editor)

    Michael H (Editor) 7:02 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink  

    Be careful what you wish for 

    Aloha,

    I have always been for adding stars to the our kids. But I have never been for trading them for a star. If trading for Kawhi does not lead to a couple of rings then it could go down as perhaps the worst move in Lakers history. A line up of Lebron, Kawhi and PG sounds great but the Warriors can more then match them on both offense and Defense. Warriors have two superstars and two all stars, Lakers would have one less all star and little depth to match the Warriors depth. Don’t be fooled by this year, the Warriors were injury riddled all year with little cohesion. Even in the playoffs neither Curry nor Klay later were 100%. And how ironic would it be if the Warriors finally stumbled in a couple of years only to lose to the Ingram and Kuzma led Spurs. By adding to our young core we have the chance to contend for the next 10 years. Lebron will be 38 by end of a 4 year deal. Kawahi will be 31 and PG 32. Randle will be 27, Kuzma and Hart 26, Bi and Lonzo 24. I really don’t think it’s worth the risk.

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 7:43 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Right on, Jamie. You should like the Medium article I just published. We don’t have the depth yet to pull off such a move. That’s a move better suited for next summer.

  • Michael H (Editor)

    Michael H (Editor) 8:02 PM on May 26, 2018 Permalink  

    Contenders next year 

    Aloha,

    I’m sitting the Rockets Warriors and it dawned on me for the first time we possibly could contend next or the year after for sure. It all depends on the right free agents. I never thought I would say this but I think Boogie could be key. Maybe I’ll come to my senses but It appears he may have left his baggage in Sacramento. They seemed really like him in New Orleans. Assuming he’s close to where he was having both Cousins and Randle could fundamentally change the way both the Rockets and Warriors want to play. First Cousins is the big strong kind of center that gives Cappella problems and he would force The Warriors to play a big center that puts Iggy on the bench. Next you have Randle. There is now way Tucker could guard Randle but Randle could guard him. If he can guard Curry he can guard Tucker. They would have to try Anderson who Julius would eat up as well. One other benefits of Cousins signing is if you want Rondo as a back up bringing in Cousins maybe the only way he comes considering their friendship.
    The other addition is a guy I haven’t been advocating either. I would try to bring in Lebron. My main objection to Lebron was the age factor. But if we can contend in the next two years he is absolutely the best guy. It would be hard to much to a front line of Lebron, Cousins and Randle would be the nastiest front lines in the NBA. With just normal improvement from the kids we could contend if next year the following year for sure.
    Stsrters
    Lonzo
    Ingram
    Cousins
    Lebron
    Randle
    2nd team
    Rondo
    Hart
    Kuzma
    Bryant

    This could be a very good team.

     
    • mclyne32 (Director) 8:36 PM on May 26, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Don’t forget to add Noel, who is of utmost importance.

    • p ang

      p ang 10:59 PM on May 26, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      other than Kuz and maybe LBJ this lineup has no outside shooters.

      • humanomaly 12:22 AM on May 27, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        The team won’t need outside shooters, the ball will die in his hands, and if and when he does kick out, the shots will be rushed and not in a smooth flow…I’m not for LBJ signing…sorry….

        • p ang

          p ang 5:10 AM on May 27, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          The way I see it is LBJ is the guy they should get based on his age. In 2-3 years he’ll not be the LBJ we all know BUT that gives the young guys the 2-3 years to develop while being in the ring hunt. It also is the perfect time frame. In 2-3 years, if the youngsters developed as hoped, Lakers will have to pay the max/near max for Ingram, Kuzma and Lonzo with higher than average for Randle and Hart. LBJ should be retired by then leaving money to pay for these guys.

          But I still wish they get Cousins and Rondo first.

          • therealhtj

            therealhtj 8:25 AM on May 27, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            This is the year Lebron has to get a 5 year supermax because the over 38 rule kicks in otherwise. Remember that rule he and CP3 slipped into the CBA as union leaders most probably to ensure their own massive final contracts. You think he’d go to all that trouble and then not capitalize on it? He’s staying in Cleveland.

    • Michael H (Editor)

      Michael H (Editor) 11:10 PM on May 26, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Ingram was better then Kuzma and Lebron he shot .390 from 3. Hart shot .397 from 3 and even Boogie shot .354 from 3.

      • p ang

        p ang 5:03 AM on May 27, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Your starters (and I assume, finishers) are Lonzo, Ingram, Randle, Cousins and LBJ. Assuming Lakers got Boogie for his low post game (because if its for his shooting Lopez is cheaper) that leaves only Ingram and LBJ, Randle and Lonzo are not there.

    • humanomaly 12:21 AM on May 27, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I think Rondo would be a great signing and a mentor for Lonzo, but I’ve been getting the vibe that he’ll take another team over the Lakers if numbers are close….

    • keen observer

      keen observer 6:35 AM on May 27, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Unless the Lakers can get rid of Deng’s contract, signing LeBron, Boogie and Randle, never mind Rondo, is an impossibility absent major haircuts.

      • MongoSlade

        MongoSlade 12:37 PM on May 27, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Not only get rid of Deng’s contract but also magically not take any salary back in return.

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 8:07 AM on May 27, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Pels keep him and they have him, AD, Rondo, & Holiday.

    • mclyne32 (Director) 10:30 AM on May 27, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I know it’s not going to happen, but I would love to see a Rozier for Ball swap.

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 12:39 PM on May 27, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Aloha, Michael,

      I’m going to have to vociferously disagree with your post. While I can see the lure and appeal of signing Cousins and LeBron, I’m hoping that’s not the direction the Lakers decide to go if given the opportunity. I know to some on this blog there’s as much chance of the Lakers declining to sign LeBron and Boogie if given the chance as most men turning down an exciting evening with two beautiful women, but to me it would be like cheating, selling out, compromising what we were building, trading the legacy of our franchise for the legacy of a mercenary superstar, selling our soul to the devil.

      Ultimately, I’m still concerned about Boogie’s fit in the offense and defense that Luke wants to play. The risk after the Achilles is one thing to worry about. Having dead cap space like Deng is one thing. Getting stuck with an injured superstar on a max deal is entirely another thing. That’s like franchise killing. To take that risk for a player who is not a good fit for a team that wants to play fast and switch everything. Better to draft Robinson, sign PG, and keep Randle and Thomas and wait another year before making a move to build a team that can compete.

      My goals for the summer are to continue to build this team organically like the Warriors and Celtics have done. First move should be to draft Mitchell Robinson in the first round. Next should be to sign Paul George. Third would be sign Julius Randle, Fourth would be bringing back a healthy Isaiah Thomas. That should be a top four playoff team in the West. I like the depth this team would have and don’t want to bring in veterans who would steal valuable roles or minutes from the kids. PG is the perfect addition. If cheap enough, I would also go after Nerlens Noel as backup center.

      STARTERS
      —————
      PG: Lonzo Ball
      SG: Paul George
      SF: Brandon Ingram
      PF: Kyle Kuzma
      CE: Julius Randle

      RESERVES
      —————
      PG: Isaiah Thomas
      SG: Josh Hart
      SF: Room Exception
      PF: Channing Frye
      CE: Mitchell Robinson

    • Michael H (Editor)

      Michael H (Editor) 1:08 PM on May 27, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Aloha Tom
      I understand. And as you can tell by the post I have mixed emotions about this approach. But while watching the game I saw areas that both the Rockets and Warriors could be exploited and give us a punchers chance next year. And for me size would create the biggest problems for both. Everyone on the line up I posted are 6’ 6” and over. A big powerful center like Cousins would force the Warriors out of their preferred small ball lineup for longer stretches of time. And as for the Rockets, Cousins is the kind of center that would give Cappella issues and forget about playing Tucker on Randle. That wouldn’t even be fair.

      As for Lebron I actually had a debate with myself between PG and Lebron. But to get out of the West we would need at least one guy that can take over a game if need be. Paul George is not that guy and while we have young candidates for the closer job all of them are at least a couple years away from that level. And honestly I don’t think even these move quite enough. I would be delighted to just continue the youth movement adding a piece here and there .I actually believe that is what will end up happening. But on the other hand this line allows us to keep all of the kids and although long it would probably be the best shot of winning next year. We can’t get by the Warriors for instance playing like them. You need to create mismatches. And that’s what this post was about.

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