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  • Michael H (Editor)

    Michael H (Editor) 8:25 PM on June 21, 2017 Permalink |  

    The Plan Better Work 

    Aloha

    I’m not sure I agreed with the DLo trade. I know they wanted the cap space but can the Lakers put a team together that can challenge the Warriors is the key here. If they can’t they would better served developing our remaining young players. I am really against parting with anymore young talent for a trade for Paul George. He wants to come here and it doesn’t appear like the Pacers have received any other offers they like.

    And it’s not just the Warriors we need to worry about. The Spurs are clearing space for CP3. Can we put together a team to beat that team? And Houston is clearing space as well. Now the rumors are that the Lakers will go after Lebron. Lebron has talked about wanting to play with Melo and CP3. But what if CP3 stays with the Clippers. Recently Blake expressed his love for Madison Square Garden. Blake for Melo? Now the Clippers have Lebron’s boys. Is Lebron coming to the Clippers or the Lakers?

    While I want the Lakers to get back on top I’m hoping the FO doesn’t trade away young assets to become a perennial 5th seed.

     
    • p ang

      p ang 8:40 PM on June 21, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Thing is even if you keep all this young guys 3-4 years down the line they still don’t look like they’re winning rings. A mature JC/DLo/BI/JR/Zu might get 6-8 seed and then meeting 1-3 won’t get out of the 1st round. And with Moz and Deng in tow, no more than one allstar can be added.

      • Magicman (Editor)

        Magicman (Editor) 8:48 PM on June 21, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Then it’s a great thing, none of us can predict the future. No one here can claim they know something the rest of us don’t.

        • p ang

          p ang 8:57 PM on June 21, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          yup, cliches always find a way to enter any discussion.

          experience is a good though imperfect gauge of going forward. Magic and Rob should have a lot of that.

          • Magicman (Editor)

            Magicman (Editor) 9:13 PM on June 21, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            That’s the problem, and we, as fans should legislate each other going forward about that.

            The Lakers actually got value yesterday. If people wish to debate how qualitative it is, that’s a good debate.

            The best player in the trade yesterday was Brook Lopez. He made an All-Star team, he is a productive player.

            Some fans wish to contend yesterday was impulsive and/or unintelligent and/or misappropriated.

            Again, just factually wrong. No evidence to support that logic.

            There’s a plan. Yesterday was part of that.

            • LakerTom (Publisher) 9:17 PM on June 21, 2017 Permalink

              Just worried that the plan doesn’t look like it is working right now. Indy hasn’t blinked and if they don’t before the draft, then we’re going to face a very challenging year. Trading Russell might have been premature. Tomorrow may well tell. Once we use the #27 and #28 picks, we will likely no longer have available pieces that Indy would take. Just don’t screw things up further by not drafting Lonzo. That’s #1 worry.

            • Magicman (Editor)

              Magicman (Editor) 9:19 PM on June 21, 2017 Permalink

              Tom, why are you concerned Lonzo will not be taken #2?

            • p ang

              p ang 10:17 PM on June 21, 2017 Permalink

              blink? who knows, deal could already be down. Lakers and Pacers have gone quiet since the Nets trade.

            • GDUBinDC

              GDUBinDC 6:59 AM on June 22, 2017 Permalink

              C’mon, LT … in the words of Sam Hinkie, “TRUST THE PROCESS”! : )

            • keen observer

              keen observer 10:10 AM on June 22, 2017 Permalink

              I’m concerned, too, that Magic folds and gives Indy the #2 pick for PG. I am still concerned that the Kings will change their mind and trade us #5 & #10 for #2. It also wouldn’t shock me if we got involved in the Porzingis discussions. It also wouldn’t surprise me if something came out of left field involving the pick that we haven’t even heard of. IN the end, I think the odds are better than 46.9% that we draft Lonzo. :)

      • Worthy42

        Worthy42 4:28 AM on June 22, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Thing is, p ang, that we will never know this because they made the trade. A mature JC/DLo/BI/JR/Zu might have been champions in 3-4 years.

        • p ang

          p ang 6:24 AM on June 22, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          could very well be. doubt it though and apparently so did the Lakers.

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 9:11 PM on June 21, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Aloha, Michael. We’ve traded away all our shooters. I mean our best offensive player is now Lopez. If we don’t get PG before the draft, then we will have to wait until the following summer and the team we’re left with is not going to be any better on defense and a whole lot worse on offense. I hope we didn’t underestimate Indy and make a move before we shoulf have.

      • mclyne32 (Director) 10:25 PM on June 21, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        We traded away ONE shooter.
        Nick is opting out.
        Sweet Lou got us a much needed pick and wasn’t going to be a part of our next Chip Squad.

      • tate793

        tate793 11:45 PM on June 21, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Even if DLo was still a Laker, Lopez would still be our best offensive player. BI, Ennis, Clarkson, Randle, Nance, Nwaba, Deng can all contribute offense.

        Per Kevin Ding, the problem with DLo was between the ears. Problems that Magic, Rob and Luke saw. We don’t need a 3rd year know-it-all.

        We now have a rim protector and force in the middle with 3pt range.

        Consider:

        Lopez 20.5 pts .474 fg% .346 3pt fg% .810 ft% 5.4 reb 2.3 assists 1.7 blks 0.5 stl 2.5 tovs
        DLo 15.6 pts .405 fg% .352 3pt fg% .782 ft% 3.5 reb 4.8 assists 0.3 blks 1.4 stl 2.8 tovs

        No more Mozgov contract
        #27 1st Round pick

        Good trade for Lakers

        • Worthy42

          Worthy42 6:54 AM on June 22, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Yes, but you are comparing a 28 yr old center to a 20 yr old guard. Who knows how good Russell will be in a few years?

          • keen observer

            keen observer 7:31 AM on June 22, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Hopefully we will draft Lonzo Ball and he’ll be great. I hope D’Angelo has a successful career. It was a very fair trade that met the needs of both teams.

            • Worthy42

              Worthy42 9:23 AM on June 22, 2017 Permalink

              Yes, but we would have had Ball in either case.

            • keen observer

              keen observer 10:11 AM on June 22, 2017 Permalink

              But we wouldn’t need Russell.

          • tate793

            tate793 12:05 PM on June 22, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            And, we’d still have that albatross of a contract hanging around our neck. It’s a business, not a high school dance.

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 9:36 PM on June 21, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      JC, Ju, 27, & 28 for PG
      Let’s get on with it….

      “Get busy livin or get busy dyin”
      -Red

    • Michael H (Editor)

      Michael H (Editor) 9:51 PM on June 21, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Aloha Tom

      We’ll see what happens. I don’t get the feeling Indy has gotten a deal they like from anyone. They may just wait to see what they can get in free agency. They can always dump him at trade deadline for a little something. Honestly the Lakers are in the drivers seat. They shouldn’t over pay for a guy that will probably be he next year. As for shooters we’ll see. Ingram actually shot better then KD from 3 his Rookie year. Then KD jumped up to over 40% his 2nd year. So you never know.

    • mclyne32 (Director) 10:21 PM on June 21, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I would not trade both Randle and Clarkson plus the two picks. I don’t want to give away all of our youth. We need a good blend of youth AND veterans. That being said, I trust in Magic and Rob’s plan.

      • MongoSlade

        MongoSlade 10:37 PM on June 21, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        They’re gonna have to dump JC & Ju next summer anyway if they still got eyes on Max free agents. Might as well swap their salaries for PG now. Still have Lonzo, BI, Zub, & LNjr as young heavy rotation guys. That’s plenty

    • Michael H (Editor)

      Michael H (Editor) 10:52 PM on June 21, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Something is a little strange here. I saw this on another blog and it got me thinking. When the trade was announced it was suppose to be followed by a Paul George trade. But that hasn’t happened. What the other blogger pointed out is there hasn’t been an announcement from either the Lakers or Nets. Nor have the players involved said anything. That’s just odd. I went back and couldn’t find anything. I know Tom you’re up on the news. Have you read anything from Magic or Rob? Or a Nets rep? Makes one wonder if there’s conditions on the trade. It’s an interesting thought. If anyone has found an official statement post it.

    • Worthy42

      Worthy42 4:32 AM on June 22, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I very much agree with Michael H here. I know it did not work out for the Thunder, but I wanted the Lakers to harvest a bunch of young talent and let them grow together into something special. I am not a fan of bringing in expensive aging vets.

      • p ang

        p ang 6:27 AM on June 22, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        always room for wishful thinking. experience and history not withstanding.

      • tate793

        tate793 12:01 PM on June 22, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Only thing is that has never been the “Laker Way”. They have always brought in veterans to get the most out of a roster. Wilt, Shaq, Kareem, Lamar Odom, Jamal Wilkes, Rick Fox, Bob McAdoo, Byron Scott, Mychal Thompson, Ron Artest, Pau Gasol. Tell me, how many championships do you win minus those guys?

  • Michael H (Editor)

    Michael H (Editor) 9:17 PM on June 19, 2017 Permalink |  

    I don’t understand. 

    Okay maybe I’m dense but why leak criticism about a player you are considering trading? Now I can understand it if you are trying to send a message to a player. Phil was great at using the media to make a point. But why devalue an asset if you are truly considering a trade.

    Now with the way things work DLo maybe the asking price, not what the Lakers are offering. There is no one after the top five or six that I would even think about trading DLo for. I can’t wait till Thursday and see what happens. This is getting crazy.

     
    • Magicman (Editor)

      Magicman (Editor) 9:22 PM on June 19, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Could also be a smokescreen from a team that really likes him, to, Michael. Driving the price down. A League Source theoretically is anyone in the League. Hardly substantive.

    • mclyne32 (Director) 9:22 PM on June 19, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      DAR is not the future of this franchise.
      If he is, then why would we be looking to replace him with a real PG???
      Why would he be so quickly pushed aside if Magic and Rob trusted him?
      He’s trade fodder, and he’s lack of dedication has put him in this place.

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 9:23 PM on June 19, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      You never know where the leak is actually coming from…

      • mclyne32 (Director) 9:25 PM on June 19, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        true

      • Magicman (Editor)

        Magicman (Editor) 9:27 PM on June 19, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Yup

        • Michael H (Editor)

          Michael H (Editor) 9:29 PM on June 19, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          A smokescreen from an outside source would be the only thing that makes sense. If it’s coming from our F.O we may have a problem.

          • MongoSlade

            MongoSlade 9:32 PM on June 19, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            And it could actually be coming from inside the Lakers. They have never been shy about their frustration with DAR.

            • Michael H (Editor)

              Michael H (Editor) 9:52 PM on June 19, 2017 Permalink

              Yes but not if you are trying to trade him. But I did have another thought. What if the deal is Dlo and Deng for the say 12th pick and expiring contracts. That would make a little more sense because I really don’t believe they get a better player in the late lottery.

          • LakerTom (Publisher) 10:28 AM on June 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            It’s been pretty well confirmed that you were right about it being other Gm, Michael. Might have also been with Deng or Mozgov attached. Just Lakers doing their due diligence. Never made sense unless you don’t like Russell.

            Lakers may have issues with Russell but they’re not going to trade him unless they get an offer they can’t refuse, which is probably also true for even Ingram. Tell me they wouldn’t jump at a chance to trade Ingram straight up for Porzingis.

            • tate793

              tate793 1:39 PM on June 20, 2017 Permalink

              Because right now, Ingram is the best player they have.

      • tate793

        tate793 1:20 PM on June 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        If there even IS a “leak”. The whole thing could be fabricated bt the writer. I remember Doug Ives once saying that he was “his own source”.

  • Michael H (Editor)

    Michael H (Editor) 8:09 PM on June 19, 2017 Permalink |  

    Crazy off season 

    Chad Ford @chadfordinsider

    Sounds like Lakers are dangling D’Angelo Russell in effort to get another Top 12 pick. Luke Kennard & Zach Collins appear to be targets

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 8:15 PM on June 19, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      The Los Angeles Lakers are reportedly trying to get another lottery pick, and we now know what they might be offering in exchange.

      According to Chad Ford of ESPN, it “sounds like” the Lakers “are dangling D’Angelo Russell in effort to get another top-12 pick” in the 2017 NBA Draft. Ford adds that Duke guard Luke Kennard and Gonzaga big man Zach Collins “appear to be” the Lakers’ targets.

      The Lakers moving Russell — a former No. 2 pick — in exchange for a pick in the top-12 would be an acknowledgement they feel that pick was a failure and are looking to recoup some value, and would be a surprising flip for the franchise just two years after taking him.

      Adding smoke to this fire was the leak earlier Monday in which anonymous sources told Kevin Ding of Bleacher Report that the Lakers were less than impressed with Russell’s level of professionalism.

      Still, giving up on a guard with as much talent as Russell so quickly would certainly be surprising, and draft time is filled with rumors upon rumors. This one may come true, it may be a rival team attempting to drive Russell’s value on the trade market down by saying the Lakers are asking for so little.

      https://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2017/6/19/15835726/nba-trade-rumors-la-lakers-dangelo-russell-top-12-pick-zach-collins-luke-kennard-news-espn

      • mclyne32 (Director) 9:16 PM on June 19, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        WHAT????
        No way!!
        Not DAR! He is so untouchable!
        But, but, he works sooooo hard to improve!
        Never going to happen!!!!
        LOL!

    • Magicman (Editor)

      Magicman (Editor) 8:17 PM on June 19, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Anyone else see JJ Reddick in this kid. I do.

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 8:21 PM on June 19, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Not so sure about Chad Ford’s credibility but….wow

      • Magicman (Editor)

        Magicman (Editor) 9:17 PM on June 19, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Yeah, the guy who changes his horrible Draft Board every 5 years after it’s over. Lol.

    • keen observer

      keen observer 9:13 PM on June 19, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Why is this seemingly bullsh!t rumor getting so little fanfare in here? What’s funny is that it makes it sound like DLo is fodder and the pick is valuable. LOL!

      • Magicman (Editor)

        Magicman (Editor) 9:19 PM on June 19, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Agreed, when Chad Ford is connected to this, it’s total Bull Plop.

  • Michael H (Editor)

    Michael H (Editor) 2:15 PM on June 17, 2017 Permalink  

    Lower then whale poop 

    Aloha

    When Phil uttered his famous line Rookies are lower then whale poop I think he was thinking about defense. Actually it could be expanded to young players defense is lower then whale poop.

    Defense was a challenge last year for sure. Although I don’t see any reason why any of our kids can’t become solid team defenders. Maybe not shutdown guys but NBA defense is more about team defense.

    As far as a favorite I will be happy with Fultz, Ball, Jackson or FoX But I started wondering which guy would help our D the most next year. Fox has a defensive rep but he will suck on D for a couple of years. Jackson is suppose to be the best defender in the draft but he will suck for a couple of years. That’s just the way it is. I mean Towns came in with high two way potential and I think he will be a great defender one day. But he’s struggled learning NBA defense and was 70th out of 70 centers in defense last year.

    So who do I think would help our defense the most next year? It could be Ball because of his offensive game. Our weakest area on defense last year was transition defense. One of the reasons for that was we lead the NBA in turnovers. While DLo can make the WOW pass, he’s often sloppy with the ball. Lonzo is a pin point. He hits guys in their sweet spots. That’s what he does. He’s also going to move the ball. When the ball moves you find better shots and shoot a higher percentage. Just by playing better offense we will be better on defense.

    Now Lonzo may not have the defensive upside as some of the other guys. But when you listen to the scouts they all seem to think he is a little underated there. For instance he is fast. He is faster then Fultz but you don’t hear it mentioned much. He’s not a quick twitch athlete but he is long. Deflects a lot of passes, plays the passing lanes well and gets weak side blocks.

    While I still don’t have a clear favorite I don’t think defense should stop us from drafting Lonzo. After all who can guard Kyrie, Curry or Wall one on one anyway. The only way you can defend the point guards today is with team defense. And as a team defender I think Lonzo will be pretty good.

     
    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 2:30 PM on June 17, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I think the vast majority of athletes who are good enough to make an NBA roster also have the ability to be above average defenders. It’s all in the effort. We just saw a prime example of it with James Harden’s improvement this season. The main complaint I’ve had with our defense over the past few seasons with this group is that there just doesn’t seem to be a whole lotta “want to” on that side of the court. Too much standing around and looking at each other with confused expressions. I don’t mind mistakes but damm..at least make em at full speed.

      I also think that’s part of this intense focus on conditioning by Earv & Rob. These guys were all barely playing 30 minutes and still couldn’t give full effort on defense. No excuses this year.

      • LakerTom (Publisher) 2:46 PM on June 17, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        The problem is you need more than above average defenders if you want to win a championship. The Warriors have three elite defenders in Thompson, Green, and Iguodala not to mention an improving Kevin Durant. Lakers will focus on finding good offensive players who also have elite defensive potential if they really want to transform our defense. Ingram is the only Laker who projects as a potential elite defender.

        I think Lonzo will be better than expected but it’s the front court where we really need help in the form of a power forward who can protect the rim and switch and defend smaller players. Lakers will be looking for somebody at #28 to help at the 4 and 5 defensively. JR Wilson or Jordan Bell would be good options if available.

        • MongoSlade

          MongoSlade 3:57 PM on June 17, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Championship caliber? Man we’re just trying to get outta the cellar in just about every defensive category. I think at the very least this group can accomplish that just through commitment & effort.

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 2:41 PM on June 17, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I actually think Ball and Russell can be a good defensive backcourt because of their size (6-6 and 6-5) and length (6-9 and 6-10). You’ll need to have long athletic wings at the 3 and 4 who can sag and help cut off penetration and still get back to challenge 3-point shooters. Ingram is one. The problem is we need a long athletic 4 who can shoot, switch, and protect the rim. A guy like Jonathan Isaac would be perfect. Best hope is maybe DJ Wilson from Michigan, whom I like for #28. Just another guy who always seems to come up on my fantasy trades.

      • Michael H (Editor)

        Michael H (Editor) 3:14 PM on June 17, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Aloha Tom

        I think I have mentioned that one of the good things about living here for a basketball junkie is I get the Lakers, Warriors, Clippers and Kings stations. Although I must confess I didn’t watch a lot of Kings basketball. So I have watched a lot of Warriors games over the years. And since I grew up in NorCal the Warriors were always my 2nd favorite team. Julious Randle is bigger, stronger and faster then Draymond. He is better in every phase of the game then Draymond was at the same point in his career. For 6′ 7″ Draymond is long and for 6′ 9″ Randle is average but their wingspans are almost the same and Randle has him on vertical reach. I have seen Randle play above the rim and block shots. I see no reason why Randle can’t become as good if not better. He’s further along at 22 then Draymond was. If he has the desire, which I believe he does he will get there.

    • John M.

      John M. 3:16 PM on June 17, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Gotta keep in mind how difficult it is for almost all of these 19-year-olds to learn the NBA game. Not many Michael Coopers coming in at any age; it takes time, and fortunately, whomever we get won’t be too far behind the rest of the kids on the team.

      • tate793

        tate793 3:39 PM on June 17, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        There’s not that much difference in the college game and the NBA. basketball is still basketball. The players are ALL playing at a higher level. They are bigger, faster, stronger and more focused. Being a good defender is predominantly desire and effort. You either have it, or you don’t. As has been said, one’s conditioning, or lack thereof, goes a long way in determining the amount of effort one can exert. This is also where desire comes into play. If one desires to be a good defender, then he accepts the proper requisites that come with the territory. Be in the best shape pissible.

        • LakerTom (Publisher) 3:58 PM on June 17, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          That will work to make players the best defender they can be but the great defenders also need to have the some solid combination of elite quickness, athleticism, length, natural aggressiveness, and basketball IQ to become elite defenders.

          Every player can become a better defender or better shooter with practice and dedication. You need some natural talent beyond effort and desire to become an elite defender or shooter. That’s not something you can teach or learn.

          • tate793

            tate793 5:08 PM on June 17, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            The majority of professional athletes have the tools, the natural talent. True, some more than others. It’s the desire and effort that’s usually absent. Bruce Bowen. Tony Allen, Trevor Ariza, Ron Artdst, Derek Fisher, Sedale Threatt, Michael Cooper….

            All excellent defenders. All developed their skill over the years.

            No need to throw Kobe, MJ, LeBron, Kawhi or Draymond at me in an effort to define “elite”. I know.

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 4:15 PM on June 17, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      When you look at the top non big man defenders in the league, most of them don’t jump off the charts in terms of speed or size or freakish athleticism. But they all play with that motor…with that “want to”. This needs to become part of the culture here.

      • LakerTom (Publisher) 4:24 PM on June 17, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I agree. Unlike offense, good defense has always required effort and hustle but length and athleticism have become almost synonymous with modern NBA team defense, especially considering the help and recovering that individual defenders have to do today. Effort and hustle may be benchmarks of a good defender but they’re not enough on their own in today’s game.

        • MongoSlade

          MongoSlade 4:31 PM on June 17, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Chris Paul been All-Defense 6 years running.

        • MongoSlade

          MongoSlade 4:34 PM on June 17, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          John Wall is the fastest guy in the league & considered to be off the charts athletically. 1 All-Defensive team.

  • Michael H (Editor)

    Michael H (Editor) 1:06 PM on May 21, 2017 Permalink
    Tags: Just a thought   

    Aloha

    I just read an interesting article. It appears that the relationship between Porzingas and Phil is nowhere close to being resolved. Porzingas sent his brother to New York but nothing good came out of the meeting. I would offer Phil our 1st round pick and Zubac for Porzingas. While I love Zu and I think he will be a quality center someday, this would too hard to pass up.Phil could pick his point guard, he would have his center and then he could draft either Isaac or Markkanen for the front court. He would be further along in his rebuilding with that move. And Porzingas would be the perfect Center for Luke’s. offense. A stretch five would also allow Randle to be himself. And we would have the shot blocker we need. So Tom, you wouldn’t happen to have Magic’s phone number would you?

     
    • DJ2KB24

      DJ2KB24 1:33 PM on May 21, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Or, depending on who we pick, trade Russ for Porzy?

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 2:43 PM on May 21, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Aloha, Michael,

      A Lakers/Knicks trade of Lonzo Ball and Ivica Zubac for Kristaps Porzingis would be a shock.
      My initial take is that it’s could be a trade that could make sense for both teams/

      I definitely think it would be a great trade from the Knicks’ standpoint. As you pointed out, they would get their point guard and center of the future and still have the #8 pick to grab a player like Markkanen to replace Porzingis at the 4. Phil has painted himself into a corner where he has little to work with to improve the Knicks and build a contending team except for trading Porzingis. This is the type of deal that could save the Knicks and Phil’s reputation.

      The key to the deal is the Knicks being able to draft a potential franchise player like Lonzo Ball (or Markelle Fultz should the Celtics decide to draft Ball) to replace Kristaps Porzingis as the superstar around which to build a championship contender. Landing a player with Ball’s resume and upside is the only way Phil could ever get ownership approval to trade Porzingis, who gets a daily reminder in the form of Carmelo Anthony of his potential future fate as a Knick.

      Much as I love Porzingis and would have been happy had we drafted him instead of Russell, I don’t think the Lakers would make the trade. I think the Lakers might be willing to make the deal if the Knicks would accept D’Angelo Russell instead of Lonzo Ball as I am convinced they believe Ball is the perfect fit to jump start the Lakers rebuild and turn the team into a modern version of Showtime with his selfless style of play and ability to make his teammates better.

      But I also know that the Lakers would love to add a potential superstar like Porzingis to accelerate their rebuild and make the franchise even more attractive to Paul George, Russell Westbrook, and DeMarcus Cousins, who could be potential unrestricted free agents the summer of 2018. The issue is whether a starting lineup of Russell, Young, Ingram, Randle, and Porzingis be more attractive than a starting lineup of Ball, Russell, Ingram, Randle, and Zubac.

      Carrying those lineups forward to the summer of 2018, the question becomes whether a starting lineup of Russell, Ingram, George, Randle, and Porzingis would be better than a starting lineup of Ball, Ingram, George, Randle, and Zubac plus whatever the Lakers could get for D’Angelo Russell. Bottom line, it comes down to whether you believe Lonzo Ball’s unproven and unknown upside is greater than Kristaps Porzingis more proven and known upside.

      Right now, I would still opt to keep Ball and Zubac although I would be willing to trade Russell and Zubac for Porzingis. That would be a deal I would jump at. Ball and Porzingis would give the Lakers their point guard and center of a much sooner future. I would love to see Magic Johnson and Rob Pelinka get creative and try to land a modern NBA center and Porzingis would definitely be at the head of my list of candidates, even ahead of Willie Cauley-Stein.

      Trade Russell and Zubac for Porzingis and sign Paul George and DeMarcus Cousins as free agents and the Lakers would roll out the following starting lineup for 2018-19:

      PG -- Lonzo Ball -- 19
      SG -- Brandon Ingram -- 19
      SF -- Paul George -- 27
      PF -- Kristaps Porzingis -- 21
      CE -- DeMarcus Cousins -- 26

      Now that’s a lineup that I think could compete with anybody.

    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 3:29 PM on May 21, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I would make that deal in a second. But I wouldn’t give up much more than that. Porzingis is, in many ways, just as unproven commodity as our current crop of youngins. Could be a reaaaaaaaallllllly interesting summer. Could see pretty much the team we ended with, or a wholly different Laker Beast come the Fall. Looking forward to what they come up with.

    • tate793

      tate793 4:54 PM on May 21, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      A mitigating factor could be the brevity of Phil’s future in NY. He only has 2 more years on his contract. If Porzingis, and others, are unhappy with Phil and his Triangle, then they won’t bring him back and everyone will be happy. That appears to be the fly in Porzingis’ ointment.

      • tate793

        tate793 4:57 PM on May 21, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I wouldn’t give up the pick AND Zubac for Porzingis. Be it Ball, Fox or Fultz, their upside is greater than Porzingis. We still haven’t fully unwrapped the package known as Zubac, either He might be every bit as good as Porzingis

  • Michael H (Editor)

    Michael H (Editor) 10:41 AM on October 31, 2016 Permalink  

    Meeting Expectations 

    Aloha

    So far I’m seeing what I expected to see. With a new coach, a new system, half the roster is new and half is young it was not the formula for a fast start. But what I have liked is the 48 minutes of sustained effort.

    The young guys have all improved. All the talk was how Randle needed to develop a jumper. Which is still true but he has been so efficient finishing at the rim that like James said in the post game, he hadn’t needed it yet.

    The biggest issue is defense. Rarely does a young player come into the league as a good defender. It takes longer to develop that. The kids are all putting in the effort. The on ball defense has improved across the board and the switches have been better but weak side rotations are still as bad as last year. At some point you just have to learn to give up the jump shot and stop the dunk.

    As for the vets, Mosgov has been good. He has done a real good job of protecting the paint unfortunately as mentioned no one has had his back. I’ve liked Nicks defensive energy. He has been guarding superstars but he has at least made them work for it. My only concern is his shot isn’t falling. And I wonder if he can expend that kind of energy on defense without it effecting his offense. Some guys can’t, at least at his age. Deng has not been good yet. I know in preseason he was dinged and didn’t get much work in so I hope it’s just matter of shaking off the rust. I’ve liked what I have seen from Lou. I think he has looked to make more plays for other in 3 games then he did all last year. I have liked it when Lou and Clarkson were paired with the 2nd unit. I think with Ingrams ball handling ability it is a nice group.

    I think we will stumble a lot the first half of the year. Hopefully by the 2nd half the guys will understand the system better. While we don’t have a closer yet, not many teams have closers as good as Westbrook so we will begin to win a few of these close games.

     
    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 3:41 PM on October 31, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      We just don’t have a whole lotta overall team speed and there are few schemes to overcome that on the defensive end. Mozgov might be a good rim protector but when the perimeter defense leaks like a sieve he gets put into bad situations. Points in the paint have killed us the last 2 games. probably would have in the HOU game too but..ya know..Dantoni.

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 5:02 PM on October 31, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Aloha, Michael. I also love how we have competed so far. Randle had a great game I still think the key to our success this year is D’Angelo Russell, who has had two very subpar shooting performances. Had he shot well, I think we could have won both of those games. We need DAR to perform at a high level every game in order to win. In fact, the issue is we need everybody to come through to win. Looking for D’Angelo to bounce back the next two nights.

      • humanomaly 8:55 AM on November 1, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I think DAR, being as young as he is, has a very emotional based personality. He acts confident and cocky, but I sense that he is not like Magic Johnson was as a 19 year old. Though they were both taken second in the draft, I don’t think that either has/had a need to disprove anything. People keep attacking DAR. His name came up in trade talks many times since being drafted. I think people should stop knocking our team, and look at their skills and potential ( Yes, I know a scary word to use ), and be patient and support them. Same with all the young players, … “The Breakfast Club”…I’ll give Mitch and management credit for making one correct move, and that was to release Anthony Brown. If he had made the team and Julian Jacobs had not that would have been a bad move. The team is loaded with point guards, or 1/2’s, especially carrying both Huertas and Calderon.

  • Michael H (Editor)

    Michael H (Editor) 1:33 PM on September 4, 2016 Permalink  

    On summer predictions 

    Aloha

    The Lakers have not received a lot of love in the predictions so far. But I always thought it’s a bit silly to predict before training camps open. They are all based on known commodities. It’s easy to predict that the Warriors, Cav’s and Spurs are going to be 3 of the top teams. It’s much harder with a team like the Lakers with 8 guys in their 3rd season or less. Especially when at least 5 or 6 of those guys are going to starters or significant rotation players.

    With young players you just don’t know. Especially since last years squad was built around Kobe, it’s harder to get a read. Russell obviously improved but will he take a step forward or a leap forward. Kobe took his leap in his 3rd year. Clarkson showed steady improvement his first 2 years. How will he look in his 3rd? Same goes with Randle and Nance. You just can’t predict. And then there is Ingram. What kind of impact can he have as a rookie. That’s something one can never predict.

    Even the vets isn’t cut and dry. You know what you will get from Deng and Williams but will Mozgov return to pre injury form? Yi was one of the best non Americans in the Olympics. Will that carry over to this year? Personally I don’t think you can predict this year at all for this team. I mean I wouldn’t be surprised if they only won 25 but I wouldn’t be surprised if they flirted with the 8th seed. It’s just too hard to call.

     
    • DJ2KB24

      DJ2KB24 2:31 PM on September 4, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Can’t really compare Russ to Kobe in years. Russ played almost double the minutes that Kobe was allowed in his first year.

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 3:17 PM on September 4, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Aloha, Michael. I always find it funny how so many bloggers are almost afraid to make predictions about this team for the coming season despite all the reason to be optimistic or jump all over any writer or blogger who does. Well, hell with that. What’s the use of being a fan if you can’t dream? Hiring Luke, a great summer league, and Ingram and Zubac changed that.

      This is not your grandfather’s or father’s team or even the terrible teams we rooted for the last three years. I think we will see a completely different and exciting approach to the game and style of play this season. For once, the entire franchise is going to be on the same page: front office, coaches, and players. The Lakers have finally moved into the modern era.

      We may not have enough to make the playoffs but I am confident we will at least double our 17 win total from last year and establish ourselves as a hot up-and-coming team with superior young talent along with Minnesota, Philadelphia, Boston, and Utah. Next summer will be a different scenario. for the Lakers, who will finally attract interest from elite free agents.

      • DJ2KB24

        DJ2KB24 3:26 PM on September 4, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Imma hoping LT! Gotta “Show-Me” state Missouri. Who are the elite Freebies next year?

        • LakerTom (Publisher) 3:30 PM on September 4, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          You watch the Yankee’s today, DJ? We’re going to see a similar level of excitement with our young Lakers this season. Drop the pressure and high expectations and let the kids play free without worrying about getting yanked and yelled at and everything gets easier. That’s what’s happened with the Yankees and what’s going to happen with the Lakers.

          • DJ2KB24

            DJ2KB24 4:48 PM on September 4, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Would B great! I kinda understand, but signing Dang and Mozzy will surely slow progress of Zubac and Ingram? It’s minutes they won’t get. Kinda like last season, Kobe taking minutes from the kids, but he was/is Kobe, not Mozzy or Dang.

            • LakerTom (Publisher) 5:19 PM on September 4, 2016 Permalink

              I think you need to win to create a winning culture and that’s hard to do with just kids. Ideally, the kids will develop quickly and push Mozgov and Deng for starting positions. I would love to see Ingram and Zubac play their way into the starting lineup by the All-star break.

            • DJ2KB24

              DJ2KB24 5:47 PM on September 4, 2016 Permalink

              That’d be good.

    • keen observer

      keen observer 1:33 PM on September 5, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I think it’s quite predictable actually. The only thing that isn’t is which teams get hit with the injury bug. Sure, D-lo could turn into Lillard and Randle might be a lot better than a lot of people think, but the emphasis this season will be growth and continuity and the majority of our rotation players are still in diapers. Talking about it is another thing. It’s mostly a boring wasted exercise.

  • Michael H (Editor)

    Michael H (Editor) 5:58 PM on July 4, 2016 Permalink  

    Let’s not get crazy 

    Russell Westbrook is a great player and I hope he wants to come home and lead his child hood team next year. But to trade the future away for him would be the worst thing the Lakers could do. Barring serious injury the Warriors will rule the league for the next several years. The Spurs won’t beat them, the Clippees won’t beat them and the Cavs with Lebron and Kyrie won’t beat them.

    The reason the Warriors are in this position is because curry plays for peanuts and everyone one else is playing on suddenly cheap contracts for several more years. If we traded for Westbrook it would be very hard to add enough talent to overcome the Dubs or even the Spurs within the current bloated contract environment. Think about it, Barnes is getting 23 mil and Mosgov 16. Think about that.

    Russell Westbrook turns 28 in November. When you consider his game, how much prime does he have left? Tracy Mcgradys decline started at 29 and Vince Carter at 31. We have a chance to field a team in a few years with the next wave of stars. The T Wolves will be there to but we will have the advantage with free agents.

    If Russell doesn’t come next year with growth from our young players we could be in the running for Cousins and Paul George in 2018. Or one of them if Russell comes. In 5 years does anyone really want to see Ingram and Deangelo leading a championship push for OKC while Westbrook comes off the bench for some contender like Vince Carter? Keep the kids. Build something that will last.

     
    • Magicman (Editor)

      Magicman (Editor) 6:00 PM on July 4, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Like everyone else on the planet, no one on here can prove a negative.

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 6:13 PM on July 4, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I don’t think we should make the trade either but in the other hand…you gotta be in it to win it. Nobody gave the Cavs much of a chance against the Dubs either. Long road…

    • LakerKev

      LakerKev 6:13 PM on July 4, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I agree it’s better to wait until next Summer for all the reasons you mention, Michael. Of the kids, the only one I’d give up his Clarkson.

      • Michael H (Editor)

        Michael H (Editor) 6:34 PM on July 4, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Aloha Lakerkev

        This year is shot. There is really nobody left that we could sign to add with Westbrook to make much of a difference. And then looking at next. Curry isn’t coming. After him Blake, CP3, Hayward, Lowery, Gallerani and Milsap are the top guys. Even if we were to sign two of them, assuming Westbrook stays, I can’t see how we challange the Dubs or the Spurs. I just think we develop the kids and wait our turn. They are a good group with a lot of upside.

    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 11:36 PM on July 4, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      So we just roll over and die for the next couple of years? No, I’d trade D’Angelo and whatever else gets the deal done. This is how the Lakers get better. You let another team roll the dice, you move up to the high stakes tables instead of the casino floor.

      That’s just me spit balling and all, of course.

  • Michael H (Editor)

    Michael H (Editor) 3:08 PM on July 2, 2016 Permalink  

    This is crazy 

    Does anyone other then Ryan Andersons mother think he is worth 20 mil a year for the next 4 years?

     
  • Michael H (Editor)

    Michael H (Editor) 11:59 AM on July 2, 2016 Permalink  

    Rolling the dice 

    I think it’s pretty clear that the Lakers have embraced their youth movement. Mitch said before free agency that he want to add a couple of vets. And he has with two hard working players that can be good examples for the kids.

    But they are rolling the dice on these signings. They are betting that Moscov can return to the form of a year ago before the injuries. If he had played at that level last year I don’t think anyone would have questioned the signing.

    As for Deng I have always liked him. And so has Mitch. The Lakers are betting that he can continue to play at the level he has been playing at. With the money being tossed around I have no problem with the salaries. It’s more the years that is a concern. But it is rumored that Mosgov has a team option in year 4. I’m hoping it’s the same for Deng.

    There is rumors that the Lakers still like Ryan Anderson but Deng can also play as a stretch four so I’m hoping they don’t sign Anderson. He’s a one trick pony that wasn’t great at his one trick last year. If Jarett Jack is healthy I wouldn’t mind adding him as a back up PG he’s great leader and locker room guy. if not I’m okay with bringing Marcello back. I also want to see Black back. Maybe even Jabari Brown. He’s playing on the summer league team. I like his determination.

    I’m going to enjoy watching the kids play this year. That’s what it’s been about all along. And The FO has finally admitted it.

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 12:05 PM on July 2, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I actually forgot about Jarrett Jack. He would be an excellent back up point guard for us.
      I also wouldn’t mind signing Ryan Anderson. We were last in the league in 3-point shooting.

    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 12:12 PM on July 2, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      By signing Deng to start over Ingram? C’mon guys….this is plan B, at best.

      Don’t get me wrong, I’ll be rooting and watching starting next weekend with Summer League. But this is just embracing of the same kick-the-can until super star X rides in and saves us all! This is not an embracing of anyone thing, it’s a chaotic jumble of players who don’t really compliment each other all that well.

      Who spaces the floor? Are we going to run an up-tempo offense? Our priciest players are all pretty old, nearing the twilight years for their respective positions. Small ball, tall ball…no clear answers. So we’ll see how it all shakes out in SL, camp, and beyond. For now…

      https://youtu.be/7HTcet_BgYM

      • Michael H (Editor)

        Michael H (Editor) 12:36 PM on July 2, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Aloha Jamie

        I would have been fine last year if Russell had started the year coming off the bench. He clearly wasn’t ready to start. My problem was that Byron waited until Russell was starting to really improve then he benched him.

        I don’t think Deng is coming here to start for the next four years. Kobe played behind Eddie Jones for two years. I will guarantee that Ingram gets 27 to 30 minutes a game. And Ingram will learn so much from Deng. You will see Deng some at the 4 and Randle or Nance will be getting minutes as a small ball 5. Personally I think that will be Randle. He’s strong enough to hold his position against bigger players. If Deng holds up health wise I think it will work out fine.

        • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

          Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 12:50 PM on July 2, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          I’m not trying to convince anyone to be miserable with me. I just don’t think these moves are:

          A) Smart.
          B) Move the team forward in a meaningful way
          C) Make us more of a destination for free agents in the future.

          Hilarious to me that one coach can deploy the same tactic and get praised while the other is critiqued. Just too funny.

          I don’t remember D’Angelo playing well for more than a game or three stretch last season…maybe I’m remembering wrong but it seemed like he’d follow a good game with a series of clunkers. Little D better show me something in Summer League that shows he’s serious. Not expecting much, honestly.

          • LakerTom (Publisher) 1:13 PM on July 2, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            But, and here’s the big but, Mozgov and Deng might have been the best they could have gotten for the money they were willing to spend.

            Would I have prefered that they outbid Atlanta and Orlando and we got Bazemore and Biyombo for $22 million each per year instead of $17 million per year each? Neither signed a max deal so we probably could have gotten both if we want to for an extra $10 million per year.

            It all depends on what we do with the remaining $24 million. Maybe Mozgov, Deng, and Ryan Anderson would be better than Bazemore and Biyombo.

            That’s the only question I have in my mind.

            • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

              Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 2:02 PM on July 2, 2016 Permalink

              If the problem is that they’re not willing to spend money on improving the team than they’re not very good at their jobs, which has been empirically proven over the last 5 years.

              Defend these moves all you want, for me they’re garbage. All of these would have been better moves in a couple more days, there is talent that equates to what Mozgov and Deng bring in still un-signed right now. These are not irrpelacable skill sets they’re bringing in, these are things that Brandon Bass, Harkliss, heck Jordan Hill bring to the table.

              Might cancel my TV subscription and go straight radio for a couple of seasons…no need to over pay for garbage.

      • mclyne32 (Director) 12:40 PM on July 2, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        This is more like plan D.
        I loved Deng when he was younger, but now he’s in the time of his career when his body is going to start breaking down.
        Mozgov is a body that can set screens, but has already shown signs of breaking down. With the crazy money being thrown out, it would have been nicer to get guys on the other side of 30, but nobody had confidence in our Franchise anymore.
        Nobody like Wesebrook is coming next summer either to play with Mozgov and Deng.
        Our only hope is that both of our aging vets have career years and can be moved for younger talent.

        • Magicman (Editor)

          Magicman (Editor) 12:47 PM on July 2, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Matt, the FO taking heat is scrupulous ill-logic.

          The future greatness of the Lakers is squarely on the Squirts shoulders.

          Randle, Russell, Ingram and Clarkson have to prove, they’re worth playing with.

          Do they understand that challenge? Will they meet these expectations?

          #Meetthechallenge

  • Michael H (Editor)

    Michael H (Editor) 10:25 AM on July 1, 2016 Permalink  

    Rebuilding 

    I think the Clarkson and Mosgov signings represent the FO finally admitting to where the Lakers are as a franchise. We are in the middle of rebuild with a solid core of young players with a lot of upside. I mean we have 3 players on the Olympic select team.

    Unfortunately that doesn’t hold a lot of appeal for top free agents wanting win next year. The Lakers could have waited for an offer sheet on Clarkson under the Arenas rule and that would have given them more spending power this year and next. But the flip side is it gives the Lakers 10 mil a year more or so in the last two years when they may actually have a shot at a top free agent. It also is a more tradable contract.

    As for Mozgov that contract would be like 11 mil under the old cap. If Mosgov hadn’t been hurt last year and put up the kind of production he had been prior to last year I don’t think anyone would have questioned the signing. It’s easy to forget that the Cavs gave up 2 first round picks for him and it helped turn their season around. Only time will tell if they over paid. But I’m sure they researched his market value. Brian Shaw coached him and I think they are betting that he will be healthy and will returned to form.

    As for who else we sign I’m not sure. Batum signed for 24 mil a year and sure I’m Chandler will get the same. But should a rebuilding team sink that kind of money into a guy that plays the same position as your prized rookie? We still need help at the 3 but I think we we will look at cheaper alternatives. At this point I think it’s all about the kids and the Lakers will become relevant again once the kids are ready.

     
    • DJ2KB24

      DJ2KB24 10:27 AM on July 1, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Really Moz? How long for how much?

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 10:36 AM on July 1, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Excellent post, Michael. I think the front office had feelers out and knew who would and would not be interested in joining the Lakers. I like the deal for Clarkson and Mosgov, if healthy, should be a big upgrade over Hibbert. He is an excellent screen setter and PNR finisher, which are key needs for the offense Luke wants to run. I also like that he is a 70% career free throw shooter. Hopefully, he will bounce back from a subpar year due to injury and role.

      I think the signing also reflects the team’s desire to be able to play different styles, especially in the playoffs. The lack of size once Bogut was injured and Ezili disappeared was a major problem for the Warriors. Bottom line, let’s keep our fingers crossed and hope we can add a wing like Bazemore or Parsons or other pieces to strengthen the roster. Not what I was hoping for but maybe we still can sign another key player or two. Would love Bazemore.

      • DJ2KB24

        DJ2KB24 10:40 AM on July 1, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Is what we is. Don’t mind my cryin!

      • Michael H (Editor)

        Michael H (Editor) 11:50 AM on July 1, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Thanks Tom,

        I would like Bazemore better then Parsons. At around 25 mil that would be a lot of money for a rebuilding team. Bazemore more can play the 2 and 3 and will be cheaper.

        • MongoSlade

          MongoSlade 11:57 AM on July 1, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          The same reason we had to settle for Mozgov is the same reason that makes it unlikely we land either of those guys. If we’re gonna be realistic then we gotta see it all the way thru.

          • Magicman (Editor)

            Magicman (Editor) 12:46 PM on July 1, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            By that merit, MS, the language of the FO is foreign from there previous message:

            “We don’t have …. the time to methodically and slowly build through the draft,” said Mitch Kupchak.

    • John M.

      John M. 11:00 AM on July 1, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Who wants to bet Nick thinks he’s taking Kobe’s place?

    • keen observer

      keen observer 11:01 AM on July 1, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Well written, Michael H. Succinct, common sensical, and reality based. Perhaps Lakers fans who had all the visions of grandeur will wake up and become more accepting of the situation which is moving forward. As Mr. Tate suggested, this is called long term vision or a decade plan. That is what I want to see as a fan. It isn’t our time and I hope that everyone can see that it won’t be for awhile. Just kick back, relax and enjoy the show. The front office knows a lot better what it is doing than we do and as I have suggested all along, the roster will look nothing like bloggers hoped it would look. That’s not a bad thing; it’s a reality and it is certainly one that I am comfortable with.

      Hypotheitcally if Black is retained at 1.1 mil and Zubac makes the team, that’s only 18 mil tied up at the center position, or 19.1% of the cap. That’s 20% at one position, or 3 of the 15 roster positions, also 20%. With the new cap and another bump next year, that’s economically money well spent, not to mention the contracts that will have trade value now. That is how you build a team, so let’s dispense with the “right now!” attitude and go along for a nice ride.

      • John M.

        John M. 11:11 AM on July 1, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Agreed. I think Luke will do a great job building a young team that’s fun to watch. That’s the only goal that’s realistic at this point.

      • Michael H (Editor)

        Michael H (Editor) 11:28 AM on July 1, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Completely agree Mr keen

        • DJ2KB24

          DJ2KB24 11:32 AM on July 1, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Will say that if Luke gets us in the PO’s this year, we might be, then, in a position to grab some Super Freebies next summer.

          • keen observer

            keen observer 11:33 AM on July 1, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Deej won’t let go. Think more like Utah’s progress or Minny’s. Forget the playoffs.

            • DJ2KB24

              DJ2KB24 12:21 PM on July 1, 2016 Permalink

              : (

  • Michael H (Editor)

    Michael H (Editor) 1:09 AM on July 1, 2016 Permalink  

    Good news 

    This is good news. I like this better then the whole balloon payment in the back end if someone had signed him to an offer shee under the Arenas rule.

    Chris Martin Palmer
    Chris Martin Palmer – Verified account ‏@ChrisPalmerNBA

    Jordan Clarkson’s new 4-year/$50M deal with the Lakers makes him one of the NBA’s best bargains.
    1:01 AM – 1 Jul 2016
    59 RETWEETS51 LIKES

     
    • tate793

      tate793 1:12 AM on July 1, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      That IS good news!

    • Caliphilosopher

      Caliphilosopher 2:21 AM on July 1, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      From a team perspective, it is very good news!

      From a player perspective…if I were JC, I’m not too sure I would be happy being paid less annually than Mozgov.

      Time to get some 3/4/5s who can rotate and switch and pop some 3s. Some more glass cleaning would be helpful too.

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 6:22 AM on July 1, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      JC was never leaving. But alot depends on how the deal is structured. If it’s a standard contract then it cuts into our supposed 2 max contract slots next summer. If it’s structured like an Arenas deal then the cut is about half.

      But it’s beginning to look like it’ll be difficult to have those 2 slots a year from now.

    • keen observer

      keen observer 7:21 AM on July 1, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      It’s also a very movable contract should a disgruntled star become available down the road. #patience

    • Michael H (Editor)

      Michael H (Editor) 9:35 AM on July 1, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I think the FO understands where we are at in our rebuild. The Arenas rule could have given us more spending power this year and next. But I think the Lakers understand that they won’t land any max players into the kids are further along. So this deal with its home team discount gives us 10 mil more to spend in years 3 and 4 when we may have a real chance at a max free agent.

  • Michael H (Editor)

    Michael H (Editor) 7:08 PM on June 30, 2016 Permalink  

    Just Wondering 

    I am just wondering who the Lakers are actually interested in. According to reports there are about 67 guys we are chasing. We all know how tight lipped Mitch is. I’m guessing a lot of the reports are pure speculation based on having a ton of cap space. Some of the names don’t even make sense for the Lakers. And then there is always the agents. “And and the Lakers , ya Lakers that’s the ticket.” I wonder how many of those guys have actually talked with Mitch.

     
    • Seely_Iggy (Director)

      Seely_Iggy (Director) 7:16 PM on June 30, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      This is the time when agents, players, and front office set the stage for the negotiations to come. Agents and players are trying to up the contract offer, so name dropping a team like the Lakers with loads of cap space is definitely one way to negotiate with their own teams. The more a player is valued by multiple teams, the better leverage they have. Front office on the other hand want to show their interest in multiple players for the same reason. They want to show they have multiple alternatives. At this point in time, everything you hear could be a possible misdirection. Just sit tight and pretty soon a clearer picture will start to emerge. In the mean time, we can continue to bicker on what the front office should or shouldn’t be doing. Fun times in free agency :)

    • keen observer

      keen observer 7:18 PM on June 30, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I wonder that, too. Pacifying fans by publicly being optimistic about landing star FAs is one thing, but the more realistic Plan B is another. I do not believe it will be a pure punt situation like previous years, but a hybrid plan to make sure we have two max slots next summer.

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 7:19 PM on June 30, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      In this market the bigger question is who is actually interested in us.

  • Michael H (Editor)

    Michael H (Editor) 7:42 PM on June 28, 2016 Permalink  

    I have always liked Jarret Jack He is… 

    I have always liked Jarret Jack. He is a great guy and a great leader. If he’s healthy I think he would be the perfect guard to add and bring off the bench. He was the leader on the Warriors and the Nets. He would be a great role model for the kids.

    Nets Looking to Move Jack by Thursday
    Tuesday, June 28
    According to The Vertical’s Adrian Wojnarowski the Nets would like to deal Jack in order to clear his salary off the books. However, Wojnarowski added that if Brooklyn can’t find a trade partner, it will waive Jack instead.

     
  • Michael H (Editor)

    Michael H (Editor) 1:17 PM on June 26, 2016 Permalink  

    At least we will know quickly 

    Ethan J. Skolnick
    Ethan J. Skolnick – Verified account ‏@EthanJSkolnick

    Whiteside says he hopes his situation is resolved on July 1, and that it’s an easy decision
    12:52 PM – 26 Jun 2016

     
    • John M.

      John M. 1:25 PM on June 26, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      He’s staying in Miami.

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 2:27 PM on June 26, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      The big concern is that knowing quickly could mean staying with the Heat or in the case of Horford, staying with the Hawks. I think Hassan wants to leave Miami and will listen to the Lakers offer. Miami cannot really pay him more and I doubt whether the state tax will be a major factor. It’s the kind of thing that could swing a player toward one team in a close competition but I think Whiteside will be attracted by the Lakers legacy of great centers.

    • mclyne32 (Director) 2:59 PM on June 26, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      We want The Biz!!!

      • LakerTom (Publisher) 3:01 PM on June 26, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Not much talk about the Bis, Matt.
        He could be our Plan C after Whiteside and Horford.

        • tate793

          tate793 5:50 PM on June 26, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Then, there’s Ian Maninmi. Numbers certainly are comparable to the others.
          He’s an unrestricted FA.

        • mclyne32 (Director) 10:06 PM on June 26, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          There doesn’t need to be talk.
          Whiteside is a longshot.
          Horford is as likely to sign as KD.
          The Biz fits right in age wise with our core and might go for the big money to leave Toronto.

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