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    Legend44 5:07 PM on March 1, 2020 Permalink  


  • Legend44

    Legend44 11:53 AM on July 10, 2019 Permalink  

    Shaun Livingston ….. thoughts on adding? Even possible?

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 12:29 PM on July 10, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Hey, Darryll. I think we need to keep that last roster spot open for Andre Iguodala. When we meet the Clippers in the Western Conference Finals, we need have Danny Green to guard Paul George and Andre Iguodala to guard Kawhi Leonard. Iggy is the key to the Lakers having a great defense this year.

      • Magicman (Editor)

        Magicman (Editor) 12:34 PM on July 10, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        That responsibility is Frank Vogel’s not one singular player.

        • LakerTom (Publisher) 12:47 PM on July 10, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Coach Frank Vogel needs the tools to get the job done.
          Need two elite wing defenders to guard to elite wing superstars.

        • mclyne32 (Director) 12:52 PM on July 10, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Yup. Iggy was pretty hobbled in these last playoffs.
          I’ve always liked Livingston’s length
          The fact that he put in the mental and physical work in order to get back from that injury to become a 3X Champ is inspirational.
          If he’s still got enough left in the tank, I’m all for him joining up.

      • keen observer

        keen observer 4:27 PM on July 10, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I don’t think Iggy’s gonna happen. We clearly need one more big. Perhaps Mo Buckets? Ryan Anderson? According to my count, we have JaVale, Boogie, Kuz and Brow to play the 4-5, with LeBron and Dudley playing some power forward in small ball lineups, I guess. I would fill that need and, if somehow Iggy becomes available and Jerry West doesn’t beat us to him, I would waive someone.

      • Legend44

        Legend44 4:34 PM on July 10, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Is Iggy that much better a defender than Livingston? Do you prefer Iggy due to size/strewngth relative to handling Leonard? Have these guys matched up with leonard in the past and what was that result? I’m assuming with Iggy’s age the chance of serious injury looms and a significant decline in performance could happen at any time. Livingston is a few years younger. I’m not arguing the point, just offering up some thoughts. Either player brings the experience of being on a championship team, which is a big deal, both have played off the bench and focused on roles and both have shown the ability to step up when needed. I like both for Laker’s but with Livingston available and Iggy still up in the air, is there a bird in the hand scenario here …. realizing Livingston would have to take a pay cut?

        • LakerTom (Publisher) 4:55 PM on July 10, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply


          Yes, Iggy is a much better defender. His DEFRTG last year was 104.4 compared to 107.3 for Shaun. I also think he is more physical and a better leaper. I do like Shaun but I think it’s important for the Lakers to have a second elite wing defender to go with Green. If the Clippers are able to land Iggy, that could swing things in their favor as they would have three elite wing defenders vs. Lakers one. If Lakers get Iggy, then they have the perfect duo of defenders to guard Kawhi and PG.

          • Legend44

            Legend44 5:36 PM on July 10, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Ok, sounds good, I’m always concerned about defense. If Iggy a no go, are there other options? What about Nwamba? I didn’t follow him the last couple of years. Has he progressed? I thought I saw him as a free agent.

            • LakerTom (Publisher) 6:01 PM on July 10, 2019 Permalink

              Nwamba is a guard and is only 6-4. If Iggy was a no-go, then maybe Shaun would be a possibility or Thabo Sefolosha or Justin Holiday.

            • Legend44

              Legend44 6:07 PM on July 10, 2019 Permalink

              That’s right, Nwamba was a guard. Well, …. there is the option of Lebron on Kwami and Green on George.

            • LakerTom (Publisher) 6:19 PM on July 10, 2019 Permalink

              Hopefully, we won’t have to resort to that but it’s possible.

    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 2:27 PM on July 10, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I’m a HUGE Shaun Livingston from way back in his early days as a Clipper prior to his knee exploding. The fact that he’s come so far since shows what his character is. Neither looked very spry to me in the NBA Finals, although less was generally asked of Shaun from Golden State. Either one would be a great addition.

    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 2:33 PM on July 10, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Also, very possible. Not only do we have an open roster spot but we could easily create another one by waiving one of our 2nd round draft picks. Shaun’d have to be willing to take the vet min, though.

  • Legend44

    Legend44 6:37 AM on June 16, 2019 Permalink  

    The Davis trade reminds me a little of the trade for Jabbar back in the mid 70’s. Three very good young prospects going out, Junior Bridgeman, David Meyers and Brian Winters. At the time those were easy guys to be attached to as a fan … “young core”, but in hindsight it was certainly the right move for the Lakers. It is again hard to lose the young guys, especially Ingram who being so young may still have a huge upside. However, this move was a swing for the fences, a championship move, which is in line with the “Lakers we all know”. And … not only did we land a top 5 player in his prime, we are pairing him with another top 5 player, plus this tandem immediately elevates the Lakers to a top destination for free agents, whereas that was not the case a couple days ago. Sugar on top ….. the Celtics don’t get Davis. We’re having fun again!

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 8:48 AM on June 16, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Good morning, Darryll,

      I remember the Jabbar trade like it was yesterday and I had the same feeling then as I did yesterday. I was also a big fan of Myers, Winters, and Bridgeman but thrilled that we got Kareem. Hopefully, this will end up with us winning multiple championships. From Magic and Kareem to LeBron and AD. Sweet!

      • Legend44

        Legend44 8:51 AM on June 16, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Will be interesting to see if Pelinka negotiated a delayed Davis signing in order to maximize cap space. Saw recent Woj report, but these days I don’t believe anything from the media until it happens. I’m torn between a third star or the depth route.

        • LakerTom (Publisher) 8:58 AM on June 16, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          I can’t believe Rob would not have made sure we maximized cap space. Could just be misinterpretation of what Woj said. Doesn’t make sense.

          • Legend44

            Legend44 11:54 AM on June 16, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            We live in an era when “first” to report is more important than accuracy of report.

  • Legend44

    Legend44 2:27 PM on February 15, 2019 Permalink  

    Kareem on Lebron, G.O.A.T and role as athlete in society 


  • Legend44

    Legend44 4:43 PM on July 13, 2018 Permalink  


  • Legend44

    Legend44 4:13 PM on July 13, 2018 Permalink  

    If Lakers stand pat, could Deng find himself a rotation spot on this squad? I wonder if his experience would be valued as a back up 4 when looking at profile of recent recruits?

    • Michael H (Editor)

      Michael H (Editor) 5:09 PM on July 13, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Deng may have to have a role. It appears that Lebron will start at the 4 leaving Kuz as the only back up 4. We went from having too many bigs last year to not enough this year. If either Lebron or Kuz go down Deng may have to play some minutes.

      • Legend44

        Legend44 6:04 PM on July 13, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Less size depth for sure, but Deng also is a similar profile (former star level, experienced, played for winners, solid defender) to Rondo and Stephenson. What a great potential story if Deng could dust off his career and be a contributer with the Lakers making a run.

  • Legend44

    Legend44 9:16 PM on July 5, 2018 Permalink  

    Lebron at 5 is interesting if that is actually in context with Laker thinking. If so, I wonder if the meeting of the minds centered around the 1982 championship game seven where Magic filled in for the injured Kareem at the 5, only to facilitate one of the greatest playoff performances of all-time. Pat Riley was later quoted as saying that he envisioned a league someday where all five players are 6’ 9”. Few players could replicate what Magic did, but Lebron would certainly have that potential – to dominate all aspects of the game from the 5 spot. If applicable parties are actually considering, I wonder who approached who? I love the idea.

    • mud

      mud 9:23 PM on July 5, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      i’m sure it could happen. a good team will exploit any advantage that it has.

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 9:26 PM on July 5, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I agree, Darryll. Starting LeBron at the 5 would be revolutionary but really not that different than how the Warriors play more than half the game with Green at center. He just doesn’t start but he finishes. I love the idea and think it would give Kuzma the opportunity to start, which has to be important for the team and for Kyle. The biggest thing to me about not making a trade right now is giving the young stars a chance to sign. To me that means starting and finishing with all three young stars regardless of veterans. If we don’t trade for a superstar this summer, Lonzo, Brandon, and Kyle should start and close every game along with LeBron. We need to find out soon as possible what we have before deciding whom to trade.

    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 10:36 PM on July 5, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I think he’ll play a little 5, maybe 4-5 minutes a game and/or when the match up allows for it.

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 10:12 AM on July 6, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      My man hasn’t even been in contact with the head coach yet…..

      • mud

        mud 10:34 AM on July 6, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        i know it’s not you, but everyone is harping on this right now, but LeBron agreed to go to the Lakers, then went overseas on vacation with his family(Caribbean, i believe). there is plenty of time to talk with Luke coming up. he still must give a press conference.

  • Legend44

    Legend44 3:32 AM on July 4, 2018 Permalink  


    • LakerTom (Publisher) 12:13 PM on July 4, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Darryll, great link. I posted the story above. Couple of hints to make it easier to post articles you like. I usually do one of two things:

      (1) If you have a twitter account, just click the link to tweet the article and then paste the embedded tweet into the blog.

      (2) If you don’t have a twitter account, just copy the article headline and search Twitter for an already existing tweet about the article and then embed that tweet into the blog.

      Just email me if you have any questions. Thanks.

  • Legend44

    Legend44 2:43 PM on July 3, 2018 Permalink  

    I trust Magic and Rob but as a fan, to me Julius was Laker family so I’m sorry to see him go. I also expect there will be some regret by the Lakers on that front as I anticipate Julius still has more growth potential and he’ll be an all-star. While he started slow, his work ethic, determination and unique offering as a player will be reasons why I think he will stand out going forward. Is one superstar (Kawhi) better than 2 or 3 (Randle, Ingram, Kuzma) emerging all-stars? I would have enjoyed seeing Lebron and the Laker youth in full (Randle, Hart, Ingram, Kuzma, Ball) compete next season. At this point I’m hoping their is no trade and that the Lakers wait until 19 for a free agent addition. Best to Julius! I suspect he is in a good place, matched with Davis and that they’ll be an interesting tandem to watch. Go Lakers!

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 3:14 PM on July 3, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Hey, Darryll, I think Julius was not in the Lakers long term plans primarily because he doesn’t fit the model of being able to stretch the floor, which is the main offensive weapon we need to give LeBron the space he needs to do his thing. In addition, he got caught in the numbers game to create cap space for Kawhi next summer. With LeBron and Kawhi, the only position left for Julius was small ball center. Thus, his decision to ask for Lakers to renounce him so he could go to New Orleans. Wish him well but I agree with the team’s decision.

      • Legend44

        Legend44 3:35 PM on July 3, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I thought from the outset Randall would be similar to a Zach Randolph. One of those mismatch guys that no-one can handle. I was dissapointed at first when Randle couldn’t finish at the rim in traffic. My attachment to him is much about the hard work he put in to rectify his inside accuracy. You are right Tom about his lack of 3 point shooting. The 3 point shot has had a huge impact on the game. In the end, a Randall, Davis combo is a better fit for Julius. I just have a feeling in a couple of years we’ll wish we had a Julius Randall on the team. I liked the idea of Randall as the teams center. Moving on and will be interesting to see how the Lakers handle the 5 spot for next season.

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 3:17 PM on July 3, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Kinda hard to force a guy to sign after he’s already asked you to renounce him…lol

  • Legend44

    Legend44 7:19 PM on July 1, 2018 Permalink  

    Could Thomas still fit?

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 7:23 PM on July 1, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I presume you’re talking about Isaiah Thomas. I don’t know, Darryll. Highly unlikely at this point but it really depends on what other options he has. He would be our best solution as a backup point guard along with Rondo. That and a starting center are our top two priorities right now.

  • Legend44

    Legend44 3:47 PM on June 27, 2018 Permalink  

    I have a chronic tendon injury that with serious rest I can resolve the swelling and the pain. However, when stress is reintroduced over time the pain and swelling will return.

    The inflammation has been treated by several doctors and even holistic and natural medicine just like with the ace cbd oil as this helps the muscles and ligaments relaxed and take the pain away. I think the Lakers need to understand the Leonard injury before making any move that might involve players the likes of Ingram and Kuzma. I wonder if the only way they’ll know if Leonard is fully healed would be to see if he can last a full season without reoccuring symptoms from the mystery injury. I expect the Lakers will do due dilligence, but just hope they consider the risks relative to chronic injury.

    • NBA4ever

      NBA4ever 3:53 PM on June 27, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Exactly, it’s one thing to be taking on his one year contract tying up cap room. It’s a whole other risk when you have to give up young promising talents that

      A: you went through a few years of horrible seasons to acquire and

      B: you actually made the correct draft pick.

      I just feel if he is 100% and there is no future risks than something unethical took place in his camp?

      • Legend44

        Legend44 4:19 PM on June 27, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        There’s the element of “team” as well. The young core seem to respond to Walton and like playing together. Yes, the Warriors have lots of stars but it is a unique blend of guys that are willing to play roles. Historically, the “most stars” doesn’t guarantee victory. I think our core could also be unique in how they might blend talent and assume roles. I’d be fine if the Lakers were patient and continued to build methodically. I really like the potential of Ingram and Kuzma. I’m really curious about Ball and his unique dynamic, Love the glue aspect of Hart’s game and Randle could be a mismatch machine. I get that Lebron is a once in a generation player still with lots of tread left, but for any other player(s) aside from him, I’d be hesitant to move our young guys. I think both Kuz and Ingram may have higher long term upside than George and the Leonard situation to me is a big risk/reward situation and if it goes wrong could be devastating. It will probably be up to Lebron in many ways and the team building – free agency/ trades/drafts, etc., all part of what makes being a fan fun. We’ll know soon.

        • LakerTom (Publisher) 4:48 PM on June 27, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          You make a great point, Darryll. My biggest objection to the Lakers signing LeBron from day one was how he would change the Lakers’ style of play, which is exactly how I believe the game should be played. I think Magic is going to go for as many superstars as possible. I’m hoping that these guys will want to play our style of ball instead of iso ball. I would not be heartbroken if we just stood pat and gave the current roster with tweaks another go. There really is no terrible outcome for the Lakers long as they don’t sign another Mozgov and Deng duo.

          • Legend44

            Legend44 7:00 PM on June 27, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Tom, agree … we’re in pretty good shape. The biggest disaster would be an “equal value” trade for Leonard to find out sometime next season that this injury is chronic. Odd that he missed all season and there was all the controversy srrounding the injury. I otherwise don’t see a Mozgov/Deng scenario out there … we’re in a drivers seat now, unlike before. My favorite move would be Lebron coming to town with a 5 year plan to win 4 titles. Lebron and parts this year and add another stud in 19 and by then 1 or more of our current core may well be in the stud category.

            • LakerTom (Publisher) 7:09 PM on June 27, 2018 Permalink

              I’m in the trade for Kawhi and somehow keep Lonzo and Kuzma and then sign LeBron and PG camp, Darryll. I think a fair price is Ingram, Hart, and a pick but I could understand if it ended up costing us Ingram, Kuzma, and a pick. And since the deal is contingent on happening in July, we make sure we have commitments from LeBron and PG with enough money to keep Randle. That’s my favorite move.

  • Legend44

    Legend44 11:58 AM on March 22, 2018 Permalink  

    Saying hello 

    Hey Lakerholics:

    I’m just joining the group …. stumbled across the Lakerholics site and recognized Laker Tom from previous correspondence on an LA Times Blog years ago. I enjoy insightful discussion about the Lakers, so knew that if Laker Tom was onboard this was a group worth joining. From a quick review of the recent posts and comments that has already been confirmed.

    It’s been a rough few years for the purple and gold but while titles are the name of the game for the Lakers, I’ve always enjoyed watching the chess match of rebuilding. The light at the end of this rebuilding tunnel has definitely emerged this year and think Laker fans should be very excited about the future.

    Laker fan since 1969 – so go way back :-)

    I look forward to corresponding with the group.

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