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  • LakerTom (Publisher) 9:42 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink |  

    Kawhi Leonard’s camp flipping back and forth between Lakers and Clippers 

    Kawhi Leonard’s camp changes it’s mind often. It’s a fluid situation. Sometimes he prefers joining LeBron James with the Lakers but other times, he prefers the Clippers to avoid the spotlight — he didn’t like all the attention his injury situation got this season.

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 9:44 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Almost sounds like Kawhi doesn’t want to play with LeBron, which would be fine. Love the idea of he and PG on the Lakers. Would allow us to keep Randle and Thomas. Just need to wait until we can sign him for nothing or the Spurs take Deng as part of the deal.

    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 9:52 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Enjoy misery if you force a trade there, sir.

    • mud

      mud 10:02 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      he’s just not THAT good. he’s not Kobe or MJ or Magic or Kareem or Wilt or West or Russell or Hakeem or Bird or LeBron, or any of those other guys who weigh down the scales just by showing up. he’s not even Duncan. i’d be VERY happy if the Lakers get him, but he’s not worth bending backwards over. he’s just a really, really good player, but i’d be surprised to see him take a team on his back to the finals, even in the eastern conference. he’s Scotty Pippen, not Jordan.

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 7:18 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink |  

    Lakers should just sign Paul George! 

     

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 7:27 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I actually began writing this article last night before the news broke this morning about Kawhi Leonard’s camp leaking that Kawhi wanted out of San Antonio and he wanted to be traded to L.A., preferably to the Lakers. The more I ran the numbers and looked at the situation, the more everything I just wrote about why the Lakers should just sign PG, collect more assets this summer, and wait to pursue a second or third superstar until midseason or next summer resonated with me. Kawhi, LeBron, and PG is too good to be true.

      If the Lakers can convince the Spurs to take on Deng’s contract as part of a trade for Kawhi so the Lakes would have a clear path to sign LeBron and PG, it would be stupid to turn that opportunity down, even though we would have to build a new bench from scratch. Otherwise, our best course of action is to sign Paul George this summer and wait until next summer to sign Kawhi Leonard as a free agent. Would love to hear what you think. Thanks.

      • DJ2KB24

        DJ2KB24 7:32 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Keep in mind that if LBJ and PG agree to come, they can leave what’s needed $ to keep Randle and we don’t have to give (trade) anyone to anybody, thus keeping LB, Hart, Ingy, Kuz and Randle.

        • LakerTom (Publisher) 7:34 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          That’s true, DJ, but unless we move Deng, you’re talking about them each having to take at least $5 million less than the max. The only way that could be true is if LeBron is choreographing this entire scenario along with Kawhi and PG. Not impossible at all. But also not probable.

      • mclyne32 (Director) 8:14 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        There’s no guarantee that Kawhi will be available next summer. There’s a big chance that he could really like his new team and stay with them.
        This is my dream scenario:
        Trade Ingram, Deng, and picks for Kawhi.
        Sign PG.
        Re sign Ju.
        This way, you are only giving up one of our youth and adding two of the best two way players while at the same time, retaining one of our most versatile ones.

    • Michael H (Editor)

      Michael H (Editor) 7:37 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Aloha Tom,
      I like your approach. For me the bigger issue is letting Randle walk and trading at least two of the kids to form a big three still may not be enough to get by the Warriors.

      • LakerTom (Publisher) 7:40 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Aloha, Michael,

        Thanks. It makes even more sense when you think of a team that only has Lonzo, LeBron, Kawhi, PG, and maybe Hart. That’s throwing away the baby with the bathwater as far as I’m concerned. Like with PG, don’t pay for what we could get for free next summer.

        • DJ2KB24

          DJ2KB24 8:00 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          We need to keep in mind that Rockets had em, but for Paul going down. These Warriors will be able to be beaten.

      • mclyne32 (Director) 8:15 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        We can’t let Randle walk.

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 8:09 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Gotta also keep in mind how the Kawhi news was worded:
      Wants to come to LA…preferably to the Lakers.
      Means that the Clipps are on the table as well, although in secondary position (as usual).
      Spurs might make that deal just to get this mess over with…

      But yeah….I don’t wanna give up Kuz in that deal.

      • mclyne32 (Director) 8:29 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Who would you give up?

      • MongoSlade

        MongoSlade 8:38 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Deng, Ingram, Hart (I hate to do it), picks, Jack Nicholson, whatever…

        The other problem could be getting the Spurs to take Deng’s contract if the Clipps offer has no such dead weight.

        • GDUBinDC

          GDUBinDC 9:10 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Realistically, do y’all really believe Buford would go for any of the proposed deals u’ve posted thus far? : )

        • MongoSlade

          MongoSlade 9:23 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          I think it alot depends on whether another team (like Boston) steps up and takes the risk of trading assets for a guy who could walk in a year. If that doesn’t happen then you’re down to the 2 LA teams. I think they’d take one of those deals rather than go thru a whole season of this mess and then lose him with nothing in return.

          • GDUBinDC

            GDUBinDC 9:32 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            We’ll see ‘what’, if anything develops of these rumors and proposed trade scenarios.

    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 9:46 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I had a post much like this up for an hour or so except that I blew all my cap numbers and just scrapped it.

      In a nutshell is was this: I think a stronger option would be to sign one of James, George or Cousins. This allows you to absorb one, or both, of Thomas and Randle’s cap hits. Use your room exception to try and either Lopez, KCP, or another free agent of your choice (of the unrestricted variety).

      You keep Deng and use him as Randle’s back up and injury insurance for your bigs. You can W&S him next summer if you can’t find a taker for an expiring deal at the deadline. You could even go the extend and W&S route and minimize the hit even more.

      Use Bird Rights to re-sign Randle and IT. You can waive the non-guaranteed deals of Ennis, Zubac and Bryant to free up almost $10 mil if you sign LBJ, more than that if it’s either George or Cousins. If you’re not that high on IT, you renounce his rights and you can go after some really decent mid-level talent.

      This route keeps you out of any bidding war, allows you to get the superstar to appease Jeannie and the fan base, and continue to build on the chemistry and growth we saw last season. You could sign two or three superstars and decimate the team, it’s certainly possible to do. But I’m not so sure that’s the best way forward. At any rate, we’ll find out sooner than later what Magic and Rob got cooking on the burners.

      • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

        Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 9:51 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Essentially what you said in your article, so, great write-up, LT!

        I don’t think RC Buford takes Leonard unless he can also package in either Mills or Gasol. If we’re dumping salary, he’ll insist, too. I suppose Pop and Buford could do Leonard a solid and hit rebuild but that sounds beyond outlandish. Deng ain’t going nowhere unless we W&S him.

        I say keep him and play him. After Thomas Bryant seeing no burn last season the other big mystery was why they didn’t play Deng to see if he could generate any interest. There certainly isn’t any, now. He couldn’t generate any less so…who knows.

        At any rate, I’m thinking there are more fireworks yet to come. The calendar turning followed by the draft ought to inform us of more than a little.

      • LakerTom (Publisher) 10:06 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        We’re saying the same thing, Jamie. Avoid LeBron. Sign one superstar and keep Randle and IT. That has the makings of a longer and more sustainable contending team. I would be fine with signing PG this summer and Kawhi next summer.

        • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

          Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 1:36 AM on June 16, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          I’m fine with LeBron, but only if it’s just LeBron and complimentary parts. George has never been to the NBA Finals, neither has Boogie. LBJ can impart much wisdom and that is something that should not be ignored.

          You can sign LeBron and keep Randle and IT, easily. If all parties are into it. Leonard this summer is my least favorite option as it involves breaking up the band. Continuity, chemistry, cohesion.

          Kinda hope it’s Boogie.

          • mclyne32 (Director) 3:32 PM on June 16, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            One very very important thing you’re forgetting is that LeBron ain’t coming, unless another star is coming with him.
            As you can see in my post above, I’m perfectly fine with him not coming because I value our youth.

        • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

          Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 1:38 AM on June 16, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          I think we agree on the multi “super star” dream is a disingenuous path to success. I’m basically fine with which whatever superstar it ends up being.

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 6:02 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink |  

    The key to the Lakers landing Kawhi is his refusing to re-sign with any other team 

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 6:04 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Of course, this could all be this summer’s version of the Hampton Five. This could be LeBron James taking his next superteam into his own hands. I wouldn’t be surprised if he told Kawhi that he and PG would join the Lakers if he forces the Spurs to trade him there. You know these guys have been talking and plotting. Players can control everything now. The days of the GM’s putting together superteams may be gone.

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 5:34 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink |  

    Pressure now on Magic's Lakers with Kawhi-LeBron-George superteam real possibility 

    It’s only fitting that Magic Johnson is at the helm, because it’s showtime for the Los Angeles Lakers.

    Only this fast break doesn’t have Michael Cooper and James Worthy running the wings with Byron Scott spotting up behind the 3-point arc — this one has Kawhi Leonard trying to flee San Antonio, a homesick Paul George looking to play for his childhood team, and the megalodon of all big fish, LeBron James, looking to produce the climactic final act to his legendary career.

    The Lakers and their fans have been eagerly awaiting this moment for five years, crouched and wiggling like a lioness hiding in the brush, waiting for the unsuspecting free agent antelopes to drop their guard for a split-second.

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 5:43 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Excellent article by Colin Ward-Henninger for CBS Sports. There’s also a great video there where one of the San Antonio reporters who covers the Spurs talks about the split with Kawhi and what the Spurs might do. Not happy with Aldridge, how the injury was handled, and homesick for LA.

    • keen observer

      keen observer 10:23 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Yeah, and so far the Lakers have NONE of them.

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 5:28 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink |  

    Report: Lonzo in a deal for Kawhi is unlikely 

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 5:29 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Besides the Lakers not having any point guard, no way do the Spurs want anything to do with the Ball family.

    • mclyne32 (Director) 5:31 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      According to Cowherd today, the Spurs really wanted to take Kuzma in the draft.
      Extra incentive to trade with us.

      • LakerTom (Publisher) 5:48 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        And I think Ingram would be a great addition for the Spurs. He is the perfect replacement for Kawhi. Unless Kawhi says he will re-sign with a team, they’re not going to be able to beat an offer of Ingram and Kuzma or even Ingram and Hart, who has Spurs written all over him for his two-way play.

        • mud

          mud 6:30 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          if i had to choose between Ingram+Hart+Kuzma vs. Kawhi, the choice is easy. keep the kids.

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 4:01 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink |  

    The Most Likely Kawhi Leonard Landing Spots 

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 4:10 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Kawhi Leonard has a chance to prove that it’s the players who control building superteams not the GM’s. The vibe I’m getting from Kawhi is that he wants to go to the Lakers. Now he can either firm up that position and be the one in control, which is what I’m hoping he will do over the next couple of days, or he can blink and allow the GM’s to take over control of the situation by expanding his list to include other teams.

      If Kawhi is smart, he will stand firm that he will not re-sign with any team but the Lakers. He wants to come home, like PG, and creating a situation where whatever team gets him will lose more assets than if he just chose one and gave them leverage over the Spurs is not in his best interests. He wants the Lakers to have to give as little as possible to land him. Let’s see who really controls these situations. Kawhi’s camp has already take a bold and unexpected position without meeting with the Spurs. Now they need to close the deal.

      • mud

        mud 4:26 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        you’ve been talking to him?

        • LakerTom (Publisher) 4:48 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Yeah, last night in my mind. What is it, mud? You don’t want the Lakers to get Kawhi? Or you just tolling as usual. Most Lakers fans would at least be happy to hear the possibility of good news. You’re like the grinch who won’t cheer anything until it’s signed and sealed. How about a smile once in a while? :-)

          • mud

            mud 6:14 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            i’m happy at the possibility, but not at the prices mentioned.

            also, i don’t like all this talk like it’s a done deal, when there is only a wisp of smoke. yes, where there’s smoke, there’s fire, but if the ember isn’t pretty hot and deep, it usually goes out quickly.

            i am smiling.

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 3:51 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink |  

    Great article by Kevin Ding on Kyle Kuzma! 

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 4:12 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Man, I wouldn’t mind giving up Ingram to get Kawhi but I hate the idea of giving up Kuzma. This is a situation Kawhi needs to control. Ingram and Hart should be enough.

      • mud

        mud 4:27 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Ingram is at least as hard a worker as Kuzma, and he has more kinds of skills than Kuzma. i don’t want to give up either for a rental.

        • LakerTom (Publisher) 4:51 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Fair point, mud. That’s a risk because these max guys all lose around $80 million by signing an extension. Best you can hope for is verbal assurances and nothing goes wrong during the year.

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 3:41 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink |  

    Here is the only way the Lakers could trade for Kawhi before the draft 

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 3:45 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Spurs also get Lakers 2019 first round pick.

      STARTERS
      —————
      PG: LONZO BALL
      SG: PAUL GEORGE
      SF: LEBRON JAMES
      PF: KAWHI LEONARD
      CE: OPEN

      RESERVES
      —————--
      PG: OPEN
      SG: JOSH HART
      SF: OPEN
      PF: CHANNING FRYE
      CE: OPEN

      #25 PICK, #47 PICK, Room Exception , and Vet Minimum would be critical in filling up starting center and backup point guard, small forward, and center holes. But a potential championship contender who could give the Warriors a real challenge.

      • LakerTom (Publisher) 3:48 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Wonder if LeBron and PG might be willing to take less to give the Lakers room to sign Noel to play center. Then we might be able to get Rondo to sign on as backup point guard and mentor for Lonzo using the room exception. Or bring back SwaggyP for a shooter. JK.

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 4:13 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Hart and Kuzma are interchangeable. Lakers line in the sand should be Ingram, Hart, and Deng for Kawhi and Forbes.

    • mclyne32 (Director) 4:20 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      IF we are trading from a position of power, it should be Ingram, Deng, and a second rounder.
      This could only happen if Kawhi’s camp shortens the list to one.

      • mud

        mud 4:29 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        why do they get Ingram?

        why does it have to be a fair trade? if Kawhi is really holding all the cards, the Spurs have no choice…

        • LakerTom (Publisher) 4:31 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Right now Kawhi has said he favors a trade to the Lakers. He needs to say he won’t re-sign unless traded to the Lakers. Part of the problem is the Lakers need to have cap space to sign LeBron and PG after the trade. Frankly, they need to include Lonzo or Ingram in the trade because their the only ones right now with big enough salaries to match Kawhi. Trading after July 1st eliminates that so I doubt the trade would happen before free agency. It all comes down to Kawhi’s camp limited choices to Lakers.

          • mud

            mud 4:33 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            when has he said anything directly?

            all this is based on some instagram posts?

        • LakerTom (Publisher) 4:32 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          They get Ingram because he can’t really play the 1 or the 5 and Kawhi, LeBron, and PG will fill those other positions.

          • mud

            mud 4:36 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            so?

            when do we see if Kawhi is actually healthy?
            when do we see if PG and LeBron actually sign?

            if he will only re-up with the Lakers, the Spurs hold no leverage. when will he say these things?

            jumping up and down because this fits a fantasy isn’t productive in any way.

            • mud

              mud 4:41 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink

              Ingram can come off of the bench.

      • LakerTom (Publisher) 4:29 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        That is the key. Exercise your power, Kawhi. You do have to give them something for taking Deng, which is the only way you can make the trade work before July 1st. Could be the Spurs will wait until then when the Lakers are over the cap and don’t have to match salaries. Then a trade of Kawhi for Ingram, Hart, and the 2019 pick would be a better deal. That’s the leverage the Spurs have over the Lakers because the Lakers need to get rid of Deng with no salary in return in order to have space for LeBron and PG. That’s their leverage. They could threaten to wait until they don’t have to take Deng. Then Lakers would be $10M short of the cap space to add both LeBron and PG unless they were somehow to get a team to take Deng for their 2021 and 2023 picks, which is not going to happen. More to come…

        • mud

          mud 4:43 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          no, the Lakers do NOT have to give something for taking Deng. they can give draft picks.

          the Lakers can deal with the 10 mil, when the time comes. if Kahwi REALLY only wants to come to the Lakers, then the Spurs CAN wait, but if they do, they get nothing.

          • mclyne32 (Director) 5:23 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            They are going to want at least one young promising piece plus picks in return.

            • mud

              mud 6:15 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink

              who cares what they want? would they rather have nothing?

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 2:59 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink |  

    Trade packages that could land the Lakers Kawhi Leonard 

    With the 2018 NBA Draft less than a week away, a trade would likely have to be done sooner rather than later, going with the safe assumption that picks from this year’s draft would be involved.

    BEST CASE:
    Lakers get: Kawhi Leonard
    Spurs get: Luol Deng, Brandon Ingram, 2018 first-round pick (via CLE), 2019 first-round pick

    REALISTIC:
    Lakers gets: Kawhi Leonard
    Spurs get: Brandon Ingram, Kyle Kuzma, Luol Deng, 2018 first-round pick (via CLE), 2019 second-round pick (via CHI)

    WORST CASE:
    Lakers get: Kawhi Leonard, 2018 first-round pick
    Spurs get: Brandon Ingram, Kyle Kuzma, Josh Hart, Luol Deng, 2018 first-round pick

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 3:10 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      All of these scenarios enable us to get rid of Deng’s contract. Frankly, I could live with any of them. They would all leave us within reach of still being within reach of signing LeBron and PG too.

      Like with Paul George, everything depends on Kawhi and how steadfast he remains. He needs to officially notify everybody that the Lakers are the only team he will re-sign with.

      Once he does that, Spurs will have no choice but to trade him to the Lakers. The alternative of keeping him and hoping to change his mind or trade him at the deadline could lead to getting nothing for him.

      Learn from PG, Kawhi, make your stand. I wonder if LeBron and Kawhi are coordinating all of this. It’s entirely possible. Superstars, not GM’s, are who control building superteams in today’s NBA.

      • LakerTom (Publisher) 3:30 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Here is my calculation of the Lakers’ cap space situation after a trade of Ingram, Kuzma, Hart, and 2019 first round pick for Kawhi Leonard before next week’s draft. Salary cap is $101,000,000.

        Kawhi Leonard -- $18,868,625
        Lonzo Ball -- $7,461,960
        #25 Pick -- $1,371,000
        9 Roster Cap Holds -- $7,340,535
        LeBron James -- 4 years -- $35,350,000
        Paul George -- 4 years -- $30,300,000
        ———————————————-
        TOTAL SALARIES -- $100,692,120

        STARTERS
        —————
        PG: LONZO BALL
        SG: PAUL GEORGE
        SF: LEBRON JAMES
        PF: KAWHI LEONARD
        CE: NERLENS NOEL OR BROOK LOPEZ (ROOM EXCEPTION)

        RESERVES
        —————--
        PG: VET MINIMUM
        SG: VET MINIMUM
        SF: #47 PICK
        PF: CHANNING FRYE
        CE: #25 PICK

        NO MORE INGRAM, KUZMA, HART, RANDLE, OR THOMAS

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 3:14 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      While it would obviously make sense for the Spurs to want to agree to the trade before the draft so they could control whom the Lakers draft, the Lakers should resist that. The pick is only #25 out of 30 but it could be critical to giving the Lakers depth after possibly losing Ingram, Kuzma, and Hart and not having the cap space after signing LeBron to bring back Randle or Thomas. Would love the Lakers to keep that pick.

    • mud

      mud 3:14 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      f to the ck, no. if it were my decision….
      if he demands a trade, then the Spurs get nothing.

      if he doesn’t demand a trade, then he can be wooed when he’s a free agent.

      all other speculation is just stoopit for stoopit’s sake.

      • GDUBinDC

        GDUBinDC 3:57 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Would be nice if we could have a quote or 2 from the principal parties ie.) Kawhi/Spurs. Until that happens, it’ like mud says, speculation.

        • LakerTom (Publisher) 3:59 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Everybody is saying this information was released by Kawhi’s camp. It all comes down to whether the Lakers are at the top of his list or the only team on the list. Kawhi needs to learn from PG to be firm that he will only re-sign if traded to the Lakers. That’s the key. As they say, more to come …

          • mud

            mud 4:29 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            who cares what “everybody” says?

            • GDUBinDC

              GDUBinDC 4:50 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink

              I’m still tryna figure out who ‘everybody’ is. LOL

              Of course, ‘everybody’ is rarely wrong on such matters. : )

            • Seely_Iggy (Director)

              Seely_Iggy (Director) 5:24 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink

              Me too, G! LOL. Who is this “everybody” everyone is talking about.

          • mclyne32 (Director) 5:29 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            WOJ and Chris Mannix.

            • LakerTom (Publisher) 5:30 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink

              Thank you, Matt.

            • mclyne32 (Director) 5:42 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink

              WOJ:
              “San Antonio’s Kawhi Leonard has Los Angeles — preferably the Lakers — at the center of his preferences for a trade destination, league sources tell ESPN.”

              10:29 AM -- Jun 15, 2018

            • mud

              mud 6:17 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink

              league sources includes his cousin tim who cleans toilets at the Spurs practice facility.

            • mud

              mud 6:18 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink

              remember Rick Bucher on the radio?
              “Kobe will never play for the Lakers again and will sit out the season if need be”

          • mud

            mud 6:19 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            who exactly in Kawhi’s camp said these things?

            • GDUBinDC

              GDUBinDC 9:05 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink

              Good luck finding the answer to that one, mud.

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 12:48 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink |  

    Kawhi reportedly does not want to sign max deal with Spurs opening door for Lakers 

     
    • NBA4ever

      NBA4ever 12:59 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      If anyone thinks Kawhi cares one bit about the difference between $183m or $219m…they haven’t been paying attention to who he is or what he drives

    • mclyne32 (Director) 1:02 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I would love for us to trade for him, but I’m 100% sure that Pop will never help us out.

      • keen observer

        keen observer 1:05 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        RC Buford is the GM, arguably the best in the business. He will do one thing and one thing only, and that is to look out for the San Antonio Spurs. If it turns out that the best deal he can get is from the Lakers, then he will deal with the Lakers. If no deal out there satisfies him, then he won’t trade Kawhi yet. The truth is that Boston can, and likely will, offer a lot more than anyone else can.

        • mclyne32 (Director) 1:19 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          But why would they trade for him if he tells them that he won’t re-sign after a year?

          • keen observer

            keen observer 1:30 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            For a championship now. Just like OKC took its chances with PG, why wouldn’t the Celtics take their chances with Kawhi?

            • LakerTom (Publisher) 1:47 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink

              Celtics don’t need that risk, especially if Kawhi won’t agree to re-sign. OKC took a huge gamble, gave up Oladipo and will lose PG.

            • LakerTom (Publisher) 2:52 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink

              OKC’s main motive in the trade for PG was to keep Russel Westbrook,. Even though they’re going to end up with just a rental and it cost them a future star in Oladipo, they won because of Russ. No other team is in that situation right now where the risk is worth it.

              And definitely not the Celtics. I’ve been glued to talk radio since the news came out and it all comes down to whom Kawhi will re-sign with. Right now, it’s the Lakers. That could change if he expands the list but it seems certain he’s gone from the Spurs.

            • mud

              mud 4:40 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink

              nothing is certain, because he has not declared that he won’t re-sign with the Spurs. he hasn’t turned down money yet.

              we don’t know if he can still play ball.

              the radio is only a legitimate source for news when something has already happened.

              remember Rick Bucher on the radio?
              “Kobe will never play for the Lakers again and will sit out the season if need be”

        • LakerTom (Publisher) 2:01 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Exactly! The key is Kawhi himself who can learn from how Paul George handled the same situation last year. Kawhi can force a trade to the Lakers.

          Big question is what do the Lakers give up? Right now they don’t have contracts to match salaries unless they include Deng so they would have to wait until July 1st. The other option might be a S&T for Randle and Ingram.

          • Michael H (Editor)

            Michael H (Editor) 2:14 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            First of all I think Boston will get him. They can offer this years 1st round pick and two likely lottery picks next year. And that’s before adding any players. They have 3 up and coming young players. They could send Haywood. Or even Kylie since they are worried about resigning him. Nothing is going to kill them.

            Then there is the matter of the trade itself. Does anybody know when you can renounce your pending free agents? That could be a problem if they wanted to make the trade at the draft. If they waited until July they would have to be able move Deng for the 3 star lineup and I’m pretty sure the Spurs won’t take him in a trade.

            • LakerTom (Publisher) 2:49 PM on June 15, 2018 Permalink

              Boston would not trade for him unless he says he would stay. That’s why they did not go after PG. They’re not going give up key pieces right now for a rental. Unless Kawhi expands his list, it would take another desperate team like OKC who needed to keep Russ happy to risk a rental.

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 9:35 PM on June 14, 2018 Permalink |  

    Lakers continue campaign of misinformation after working out PG Anfernee Simons 

     
    • mud

      mud 10:35 AM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      is it the Lakers’ campaign of disinformation, or is it Bleacher Report’s?

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 9:31 PM on June 14, 2018 Permalink |  

    This is the player I'm hoping the Lakers make a trade with Nuggets to draft at #14 

     
  • LakerTom (Publisher) 9:25 PM on June 14, 2018 Permalink |  

    The quiet recovery of Tina Ball, matriarch of basketball’s loudest family 

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 9:26 PM on June 14, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Great, heart warming story about Tina Ball, Lonzo’s mother, by Kent Babb for the Washington Post. Definitely worth reading. Tina is an amazing woman.

      • mud

        mud 10:36 AM on June 15, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        yeah, i wouldn’t expect LA beat writers to write this kind of story, even if it is just lifted from episodes of Ball In The Family…

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 11:32 AM on June 14, 2018 Permalink |  

    Who are Lakers really going after? Mitchell Robinson, Kevin Huerter, or Zhaire Smith? 

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 11:36 AM on June 14, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I wouldn’t be surprised if the Lakers were trying to trade up to get Kevin Huerter. I also think they want to keep the #25 pick for Mitchell Robinson. The single biggest weakness to fill on the Lakers are 3-point shooting on offense and paint protection on defense. Huerter projects as an elite 3-point shooter and Robinson as an elite rim protector. Landing those two would make this draft as good as last years.

      • keen observer

        keen observer 12:47 PM on June 14, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I think all 3 will be gone by #25 and, if they aren’t gone, the Lakers will draft someone who we’re not drooling all over in here anyway.

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 11:10 AM on June 14, 2018 Permalink |  

    How the Lakers can land LeBron, Kawhi and Paul George 

    I’d envision the Lakers starting Ingram at point guard — a role he filled at times last season when Ball was injured — and having him share playmaking responsibilities with the newcomers. That would produce a lineup with the 6-foot-7 Leonard as its shortest player, offering tremendous defensive flexibility and the ability to switch nearly any screen. While all four players would perhaps be considered small forwards in a vacuum, all have the ability to defend any position 1-4.

    The Lakers would want a center capable of fitting in with a switching defense, which might lead them to pursue Nerlens Noel with the room midlevel. Noel, a client of the agency run by LeBron associate Rich Paul (Klutch Sports Group), might not get much larger offers than $4.4 million this summer, and the Lakers have shown interest in the past. Wojnarowski reported last winter that they had initial discussions with the Dallas Mavericks on swapping Julius Randle — whose rights the Lakers would have to forfeit to clear cap space — for Noel.

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 11:18 AM on June 14, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Excellent article by Kevin Pelton that details how the Lakers could put together LeBron, PG, and Kawhi that really lays out the moves the Lakers would have to take to accomplish this. They would be left with only Ingram, Hart, and the #25 pick but would have a team that could challenge the Dubs. Would mean losing Lonzo and Kuzma.

      One thing that jumped out at me was the key to making this work was the Lakers pulling off a trade for Kawhi BEFORE FREE AGENCY: “That tight math makes it all but imperative the Lakers send Deng to San Antonio in a Leonard trade before signing George and James. How might that work? Kawhi must ask for a trade to L.A.”

      There is a great video on the link where Rachel Nichols explains that the timing of a Kawhi trade works out well for the Lakers because Kawhi and Pops upcoming meeting over the supermax deal will determine whether the Spurs offer the supermax or look to trade Kawhi.

      If the talks fall apart, which Nichols says is very possible, then the Spurs will go proactive to trade Kawhi and he might demand a trade to the Lakers. Trade Pelton discusses would include Lonzo or Ingram plus other pieces including Deng. Bottom line, if the trade is going to happen, it will happen before free agency.

      • LakerTom (Publisher) 11:23 AM on June 14, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        In this scenario, hitting a home run with the #25 pick becomes a top priority, which could be one of the reasons the Lakers are rumored to want to move up in the draft.

    • mclyne32 (Director) 5:21 PM on June 14, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Does anyone honestly believe that Pop will help us out?
      I don’t.

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