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  • LakerTom (Publisher) 5:06 PM on June 27, 2017 Permalink |  

    Revised Offer to Pacers for Paul George? 

    Lakers receive:

    1. Paul George
    2. Monta Ellis
    3. TJ Leaf – Draft Rights

    Pacers receive:

    1. Brandon Ingram
    2. Luol Deng
    3. Corey Brewer – Expiring Contract

    Lakers roster:

    1. Ball, Clarkson
    2. Ellis, Nwaba, Hart
    3. George, Kuzma
    4. Randle, Nance, Leaf
    5. Lopez, Zubac, Bryant

    Pluses:

    1. Lakers get a superstar to go with Lonzo.
    2. They get rid of Deng’s contract
    3. They get a great prospect in TJ Leaf.

    Minuses:

    1. They give up BI but what has he done so far.

     
    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 5:11 PM on June 27, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Giving up BI is a definite panic move….

      • p ang

        p ang 5:16 PM on June 27, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Not by Magic, only by Tom.

      • LakerTom (Publisher) 5:16 PM on June 27, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Just another possible trade to consider.
        Accomplishes much of the same as Russell trade.
        Ingram may take 2 more years to be as productive as Russell.
        Ingram still has a long way to go be anywhere near PG.

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 3:36 PM on June 27, 2017 Permalink |  

    How nervous should Lakers fans be if Boston trades for Paul George 

     
    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 4:02 PM on June 27, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Ehhhhh, not very. Many indications he wants to come west. If they win it all in Boston with him THEN I’ll be worried.

    • Magicman (Editor)

      Magicman (Editor) 4:20 PM on June 27, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Paul George is not the difference between Winning a Chip. He’s been in the League almost 8 years. His best years have come and gone.

      He’ll help you get to a Game 7 but that’s it. 0-2 in Game 7s.

      His team has regressed. Losing twice in ECF, then not Qualifying, then losing in the First Round in back-to-back years.

      Every advanced metric is pointing towards a steep decline in Athleticism. When George’s athleticism is gone, so is most of his efficiency.

      • MongoSlade

        MongoSlade 5:04 PM on June 27, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        But if landing PG then leads you to landing another top free agent then it doesn’t matter.

        • Magicman (Editor)

          Magicman (Editor) 5:17 PM on June 27, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          He’ll want a NTC. Cause when/if milk turns sour, he’s actually gonna want control.

          Which is another point against trading for him.

    • mud

      mud 5:01 PM on June 27, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      not nervous at all.

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 5:06 PM on June 27, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Nervous? I get nervous when my 401(k) takesa dip.
      Not over some sports bullshyte.

      Concerned…yeah…a lil bit

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 3:32 PM on June 27, 2017 Permalink |  

    Report: LeBron James would ‘never’ join Clippers 

     
    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 4:02 PM on June 27, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      too funny, nobody wants to touch that Clipper Curse. Looks like just getting rid of Don wasn’t enough…

      • Magicman (Editor)

        Magicman (Editor) 4:09 PM on June 27, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        He understands Branding better than anyone whose come before him.

        Clippers are a bad Brand.

        If he went to LA, you go with Coke not Pepsi.

        • therealhtj

          therealhtj 4:16 PM on June 27, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Long as that old bag o’ bones Shelly Sterling is sitting courtside calling herself “Clipper Fan #1” and owner emeritus, the curse stands. Funny how none of this current core had a problem cashing Donnie’s check especially once some real winning started.

          • Magicman (Editor)

            Magicman (Editor) 4:23 PM on June 27, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Exactly. It was a moment of symbolic revolt, nothing more.

            Cant feed your family on principle, neither.

    • mclyne32 (Director) 4:08 PM on June 27, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Bawhahahaaaaa!

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 1:44 PM on June 27, 2017 Permalink |  

    Realistic Lakers Free Agency Options 

     
  • LakerTom (Publisher) 1:41 PM on June 27, 2017 Permalink |  

    Lakers Cap Space for 19/20 and 20/21 

     
  • LakerTom (Publisher) 12:23 PM on June 27, 2017 Permalink |  

    Here’s what you need to know about NBA’s new two-way contracts 

     
  • LakerTom (Publisher) 12:20 PM on June 27, 2017 Permalink |  

    How does Josh Hart’s game fit with the Lakers? 

     
  • LakerTom (Publisher) 12:08 PM on June 27, 2017 Permalink |  

    Sources: Celtics working to land both Gordon Hayward and Paul George 

    The Boston Celtics are pursuing an aggressive summer plan of sequencing the signing of free agent Gordon Hayward and relinquishing the assets needed to complete a trade for Paul George, league sources told The Vertical.

    For salary-cap purposes, Boston wants a Hayward commitment before it can finalize a trade for George and secure the most dynamic free-agent coup in franchise history, league sources said.

    For Boston, here’s the hitch: While Indiana believes Boston can offer the best possible package, the Pacers may be unwilling to wait until the start of July free agency on Boston’s timetable and could turn toward making a deal elsewhere for George, league sources told The Vertical.

    Boston has maneuvering to do with its roster, including the shedding of salaries to create space to position itself for this scenario. Boston has contingencies in place to make deals and start a possible Hayward-George scenario toward fruition, league sources told The Vertical.

    If Boston can’t acquire Hayward, Los Angeles Clippers forward Blake Griffin could be a substitute in this free-agency plan to sign a star and then trade for George, league sources told The Vertical.

    Utah is fighting to hold onto Hayward in free agency, but is exploring multiple scenarios to reshape the roster should the All-Star forward leave the franchise. The Jazz are working to upgrade the roster, including point guard, before July 1 when Hayward will start taking meetings with Boston and Miami in free agency, league sources said.

    Indiana has been focused on trying to complete a deal with Boston for George, league sources told The Vertical. The sides were growing close to a deal on draft night, but a third-team scenario fell through late in the evening that stalled talks. Indiana is desirous of the young players and future draft picks that Boston is uniquely able to offer the Pacers for George.

    The Celtics have a growing confidence they could sign George to a contract extension, and keep him from leaving to his predetermined free-agent destination of the Los Angeles Lakers, league sources told The Vertical. Boston’s belief that it can make George more than a one-year rental is fueling the franchise’s willingness to part with a significant package of assets, league sources said.

    Indiana could potentially allow George and his representation to speak to potential suitors about a contract extension should a trade happen, but that permission hasn’t been granted yet, league sources told The Vertical.

    George, 27, informed the Pacers on June 17 that he planned to leave the Pacers in 2018 as a free agent, and his preference was to sign a deal with his hometown Los Angeles Lakers.

    George is a four-time All-Star and one of the NBA’s elite two-way players.

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 12:11 PM on June 27, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      “For Boston, here’s the hitch: While Indiana believes Boston can offer the best possible package, the Pacers may be unwilling to wait until the start of July free agency on Boston’s timetable and could turn toward making a deal elsewhere for George, league sources told The Vertical.”

      Lakers need to move now and give the Pacers and offer they can accept so we don’t lost PG.
      This could be a repeat of the Kevin Garnett trade scenario once PG gets to Boston.
      Lakers will lose PG if they do not close a deal before Saturday. Time to make your best offer.

      • MongoSlade

        MongoSlade 12:21 PM on June 27, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        What’s our best offer?

        If it doesn’t include Lonzo or BI then Indy will wait for the Celts. Problem is that our 2020 pick means nothing when the Celts have multiple picks that come sooner and will most likely be much higher.

        • LakerTom (Publisher) 12:33 PM on June 27, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          The reason why Pritchard might take a Lakers offer instead of waiting is bird in hand and not knowing if the Celtics are going to end up with Hayward or if they are willing to risk PG not staying. Still lots of unknowns.

          Everybody else is not as sure as you are of what every player is worth or what every team is going to do. Who knows if the Celtics offer will be better or perceived to be better. Ainge is about as unpredictable GM as there is.

          The Lakers would be smart to make their best offer now and try to make a deal before free agency. If that is not enough, so be it. If your analysis is correct, there is nothing to lose. If your analysis is not correct, maybe they land PG. Just waiting serves zero purpose.

        • MongoSlade

          MongoSlade 12:48 PM on June 27, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          You keep saying to up the offer. If that “upped” offer doesn’t include Lonzo or BI then KP will let it sit on the shelf until the Celtic angle plays itself out. Our offer will still be there at the end of it.

          It really ain’t a matter of the Lakers waiting..it’s a matter of KP waiting. We’re not willing to put the pieces on the table to force his hand…nor should we. Celts have the pieces to play with…we don’t.

          • LakerTom (Publisher) 12:54 PM on June 27, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            The question is not who has the better trading chips. We both agree the Celtics do but Danny Ainge has been extremely reluctant to spend those chips in the past, even for players like Porzingis. I don’t buy it is a given he will risk those chips on what could end up as a 1-year rental.

            Ainge may well want to save those chips for deals next summer when the really elite free agents are on the block. Why settle for PG or GH when he could have RW or DC or even LBJ. Cleveland could be desperate next summer. Why risk assets for what could be a rental.

            Even if the Celtics added GH and PG, I don’t know if they could get past the Cavs much less the Warriors. PG might still want to go west to the Lakers, especially if LeBron decided to leave Cleveland. Things aren’t as black and white as you like to portray them.

          • MongoSlade

            MongoSlade 1:11 PM on June 27, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            I’m still wondering what this Don Corleone offer he can’t refuse is gonna be. If KP wanted JC or Ju and some low 1st rnd picks then he woulda did the deal last Thursday.

            If he waits to see what happens with the Celts…you telling me Earv & Rob won’t still be there if it doesn’t materialize? Of course they will.

            We simply aren’t willing to put up the pieces to make KP uncomfortable and force his hand.

          • MongoSlade

            MongoSlade 1:20 PM on June 27, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Celts can afford to put up pieces that won’t even hurt them if PG decides to walk… They’ll still be in the ECF especially if they add Hayward.

            That’s why the pieces matter…

          • keen observer

            keen observer 2:22 PM on June 27, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            The more I think about it, the more I think the Lakers should just wait until next summer. If Paul George is “hell bent” on wearing the Purple & Gold like his hero, Kobe Bryant, then he will. If not, he’ll show his true colors and we don’t want that anyway.

    • GDUBinDC

      GDUBinDC 2:36 PM on June 27, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      U’re startin’ to seem a bit paranoid abt the possibility the Cs might land PG. No need to sweat it, if he’s sincere abt being a Laker after next season then u really have nuthin’ to worry abt.

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 12:01 PM on June 27, 2017 Permalink |  

    Remember Kevin Garnett? Paul George is next! 

     
  • LakerTom (Publisher) 11:56 AM on June 27, 2017 Permalink |  

    Lakers Summer League Roster 

     
  • LakerTom (Publisher) 11:52 AM on June 27, 2017 Permalink |  

    Paul George has called Klay Thompson, LeBron James to discuss Lakers superteam 

     
  • LakerTom (Publisher) 10:32 AM on June 27, 2017 Permalink |  

    Jerry West’s First Task for LA Clippers: Help Save Franchise from Total Collapse 

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 10:36 AM on June 27, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Smart move by Balmer to bring in the Logo. The Clippers supposed championship window is closed and the team has some big decisions to make about the future with both CP3 and Blake and JJ hitting free agency and rumors of LeBron wanting to come to LA after next season. The Clippers needed the Logo much more than the Lakers. Even with Jerry and new arena, it would take landing LBJ for the Clippers to manage to escape the Lakers’ big shadow in LA.

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 10:03 AM on June 27, 2017 Permalink |  

    Paul George Wants to Play With Klay Thompson in 2019 

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 10:07 AM on June 27, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I like this a lot better than PG and LeBron James.
      Sign PG next summer and then KT the following summer.
      Works for me.

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 10:10 AM on June 27, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      There have been some great discussions on talk radio about how much more players talk among themselves and are usurping the team building role agents and GM’s traditionally have had. When you think about it, it’s a natural evolution when you consider that is exactly what AAU basketball has become all about. Playing with the best guys you can put together. Friends with benefits.

    • Michael H (Editor)

      Michael H (Editor) 11:57 AM on June 27, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Aloha Tom

      I agree. No matter what 2 free agents we sign we will not compete with the Warriors or even the Spurs and Rockets depending on free agency. The only way we compete is to develop the kids even if trade them their value will be higher. Bring in PG this year at a reasonable price or as a free agent. Then by 2019 some of the guys will hopefully be playing at a high enough level to land Clay. The Warriors won by developing their core. The Spurs won by developing their core. I really believe that’s the best way.

      • LakerTom (Publisher) 12:44 PM on June 27, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Aloha, Michael,

        The things that bother me about LeBron are:

        1. Like PG, he doesn’t want to play PF.
        2. I don’t want to see our young players traded like Wiggins for vets.
        3. He is too old to be part of a sustainable championship.

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 9:58 AM on June 27, 2017 Permalink |  

    Los Angeles Lakers: Three goals for Lonzo Ball in his rookie season 

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 10:14 AM on June 27, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      1. Improve free throw attempts and percentages,
      2. Improve shooting mechanics
      3. Improve 1-on-1 defense.

      I like #1 and #3 but I would stay away from trying to fix his shot. It may be funky but it goes in at a high rate and guys like Kevin Martin have shown that you can be a great shooter despite unusual mechanics. If it isn’t broken, then don’t screw it up by trying to fix it.

      • mud

        mud 11:49 AM on June 27, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        the only reason to mess with his shooting mechanics is if he becomes a poor shooter. right now, he’s extremely effective. he doesn’t need help in that area, yet.

      • DJ2KB24

        DJ2KB24 11:52 AM on June 27, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Yep, no fix if no broke.

        • therealhtj

          therealhtj 1:20 PM on June 27, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          I mean until you give the top defenders an extra split second to strip the ball as you’re swinging it up from your left kneecap, it’s fine.

          • GDUBinDC

            GDUBinDC 2:25 PM on June 27, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Yup, or maybe make it easier to get it blocked, too … especially on this level. Be interesting to see just how effective he can be .

    • tate793

      tate793 11:29 AM on June 27, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      “Different strokes for different folks.” Jamal “Silk” Wilkes rocked his unorthodox free throw mojo to a .759 success rate.

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 9:56 AM on June 27, 2017 Permalink |  

    NBA Trade Rumors: Paul George Won’t Leave Cavs If LeBron James Stays 

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 10:16 AM on June 27, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I’m less worried about PG going to the Cavs than I am going to the Celtics. Even if he goes to Cleveland, I don’t see them overtaking the Warriors. Nor do I see LeBron or PG staying if they don’t win a title. That could actually help drive them to the Lakers. Still prefer that we up our offer and close the deal.

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