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  • keen observer

    keen observer 10:06 AM on June 17, 2019 Permalink  

    Sensible list of potential non-max FA targets 


    • keen observer

      keen observer 10:07 AM on June 17, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I’m surprised that KCP isn’t on the list though.

  • keen observer

    keen observer 1:02 PM on June 13, 2019 Permalink  

    Lakers have NOT Put Kyle Kuzma on the Table, per Stein 


  • keen observer

    keen observer 5:11 PM on June 12, 2019 Permalink  

    Kyrie Parts Ways With Agent 


  • keen observer

    keen observer 12:04 PM on June 12, 2019 Permalink  

    Sam Amico chiming in 


    • LakerTom (Publisher) 12:08 PM on June 12, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Sounds like Pelicans have accepted what Lakers have offered and the two teams are now working together to get best offer from a third team. Assume deal is Lakers give up Lonzo, Brandon, and #4 but keep Kuzma and cap space to sign a mid-tier max free agent.

      • Magicman (Editor)

        Magicman (Editor) 1:06 PM on June 12, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        It also looks good that the only two female owners can resolve differences for good business. Paints Gayle in a better light for the NBA and NFL.

  • keen observer

    keen observer 3:22 PM on June 8, 2019 Permalink  

    Timing the AD Trade for the Pellies 


    • LakerTom (Publisher) 4:27 PM on June 8, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      “One could see a bit of paralysis set in if Griffin and the Pelicans instead hold off until the start of free agency to take Davis trade offers seriously.

      There is real advantage to the Pelicans waiting. There are only so many top-tier free agents, and with so many teams chasing them, someone is going to miss out. That team is probably going to be desperate (especially if it’s the Lakers). New Orleans could end up getting their best offers by desperate teams in the second week of July.”

      I disagree with the above opinion. The Pelicans will get a take-it-or-leave it offer from the Lakers before the draft. If they reject it, the Laker will pull out of the bidding for AD which will turn the entire scenario into bidding into an Anthony Davis one-year rental sweepstakes. Pelicans know the best offer any team will make will what the Lakers offer before the draft. Celtics aren’t going to risk Tatum to rent AD for a year, not when Davis has clearly said he would not re-sign with them. And Knicks offer is far inferior to what Lakers will offer, which will be one of Ball or Ingram plus the #4 pick and filler.

      I believe the Pelicans will trade AD before the draft because of the #4 pick. New Orleans risks losing leverage and ending up with less in return for Davis the longer they wait. The Lakers will make their best offer before the draft, If the Pelicans reject it, I believe the Lakers would then immediately look to trade for Bradley Beal or another superstar.

      The Lakers’ goal is to go into free agency looking for a third superstar. The last thing they want to do is to start free agency with just LeBron James and hoping to sign a second superstar. That would be repeating what happened last summer after they signed LeBron. They know they need to have the lure of playing with two superstars and they also know they can get Bradley Beal for less than they would have to give up to get Davis.

      There will be no hesitation of thinking by the Lakers of waiting to sign AD in free agency next summer. They’re not going to waste another of LeBron’s years. They want to go into free agency looking for a third superstar. It’s trade for AD or Beal before the draft and then go after a third superstar in free agency.

      • keen observer

        keen observer 4:42 PM on June 8, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        “A prediction

        In the end, the benefits to the Pelicans of trading Davis on early side seem to outweigh the potential upside of waiting until July. As long as suitors come correct with good offers, taking a deal in the run-up to or during the NBA draft will allow Griffin to pick the prospect he wants to pair with Zion and move on to the next era of Pelicans basketball. Further, given the mass uncertainty already baked into this free agency session, the teams seriously in play for Davis should be willing to make strong offers from the top given the positive free agency related knock-on effects landing Davis would have.”

        In the end, the author agrees with you.

        • LakerTom (Publisher) 4:58 PM on June 8, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Thanks, Keen. Noted.

          The Pelicans already lost some leverage in not taking the deal last season. They had 1.5 seasons of AD to rent. They will end up with only one of Lonzo or Brandon plus the pick and filler this time around. If they wait until July, they will lose more. If they wait until midseason, they will be big losers.

          • LakerTom (Publisher) 7:06 PM on June 8, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Keen, one thing that could change everything would be if LeBron and the Lakers have already reached agreement with a superstar free agent like Kawhi Leonard or Jimmy Butler. That would open up the option to keep the young core and add a new player like Darius Garland. It would also enable the Lakers to take a tougher stance negotiating with the New Orleans Pelicans as the Lakers might prefer not trading for AD or Beal this summer but waiting to see how much the kids could develop. They could then look to make a move to trade for help before the midseason trade deadline. That’s an option that could be very attractive. That would be your dream team, keen.

            Imagine at team with LeBron James and Kawhi Leonard or Jimmy Butler AND Lonzo Ball, Brandon Ingram, Darius Garland, Kyle Kuzma, Josh Hart, Moe Wagner, Isaac Bonga, and maybe JaVale McGee, Reggie Bullock, Mike Muscala, and Jemerrio Jones plus a couple of other minimum salary vets chasing a ring. That would be a very talented, diverse, and deep team with a great portfolio of tradable assets, the full complement of trade picks, and zero bad contracts. Would love to see that happen and maybe LeBron and the Lakers already have this in place. How sweet would that be?

            • keen observer

              keen observer 7:53 PM on June 8, 2019 Permalink

              As for AD, based on what happened with PG13 and Kawhi the last two seasons, I’m not holding my breath at all and I would hate to see us do something stupid. If we can get him for a reasonable price, then of course. Otherwise, the above scenario would be very acceptable and it is also feasible, but I think that Butler is more likely to come than Kawhi. Kawhi already owns the spotlight, so why would he want to be a second banana to LeBron? Truthfully, it wouldn’t shock me if Uncle Dennis has already told Pelinka to trade LeBron and then we’ll deliver Kawhi. Otherwise, forget it.

            • LakerTom (Publisher) 9:05 PM on June 8, 2019 Permalink

              The one negative is the Pelicans would clearly prefer to trade AD to anybody else but Lakers, which means Lakers need to make sure to make better offer than any other team, especially Eastern Conference teams like the Knicks and Celtics.

              As for a team emulating the Raptors, anything is possible although the Raptors were in an unusual situation as Masai was going to move DeRozan to clear salary this summer and was able to talk the Spurs into making a very bad trade to avoid having to trade Kawhi to the Lakers. The Spurs were stupid to give up Kawhi and Danny Green and not even get Pascal Siakam as part of the deal.

              Unlike the Spurs, I don’t think David Griffin is under any illusion that that the Pelicans could be a playoff team and that he could trade AD for a player who be good enough to keep them relevant. Big mistake. It would be like Griffin agreeing to trade AD and Holiday to the Rockets for CP3, whom Morey would love to move in a salary dump.

              But yes, the Nuggets or Blazers might try to put together a package and take a gamble on winning it all and talking AD into staying but they would have to give up most of the assets that would make them a contender and make AD want to re-sign and I don’t think they’re going to make such a foolish move. While they saw what the Raptors did, the Pelicans also saw what happened to the Spurs after the trade. They’re not going to make the Spurs mistake.

              David Griffin knows the Lakers are the team willing to give him the best deal and will make a deal before the draft. Adding Ingram, Kuzma, Hart, Wagner, Bonga, and the #4 pick is actually just as good a deal as they turned down last midseason and they’ll have a loaded young team with Jrue Holiday. They may even get another first and maybe require the Lakers to give a pick to a third team to move one of their expiring contracts. Win-win deal for both teams.

  • keen observer

    keen observer 8:11 AM on June 7, 2019 Permalink  

    Rumor out of Beantown: AD to the Celtics 


    • keen observer

      keen observer 8:13 AM on June 7, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Let’s say hypothetically this is true and that the teams with space for a max player or two use up their cap space this summer. Do the Lakers continue with their failed plan of signing players to one year deals to keep cap space open AGAIN with the hope that they can lure AD next summer? I hope not.

      • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

        Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 12:40 PM on June 7, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I hope not, too. Time to stop kicking the can and build a freaking team for crying out loud. You can sign a solid cast of supporting characters around LeBron that we’ll either see potential in playing alongside whichever young Laker separates himself from the pack or maybe as trade pieces to get that player. This organization hasn’t been smart since the lockout. From letting Alex M walk to Dwight billboards to our absurd coaching searches (all of them) to this moment now we’ve created situations where the risk of failure is unjustifiably high. That’s not gambling, that’s simply not doing the work that is required. My biggest fear is that it’s an institutional failing that won’t go away without wholesale turnover from the top down (or at least everyone under Jeannie since I don’t think they’ll sell in my lifetime).

    • mclyne32 (Director) 11:17 AM on June 7, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I doubt Ainge gives up Tatum and others if AD doesn’t tell him before hand that he will stay.
      So far, Boston is not on AD’s list of long term solutions.

      • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

        Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 12:35 PM on June 7, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I think Danny is looking at how Toronto doubled-down on themselves (their culture, organization and roster) and is saying we’re at least that good. He’s a gambler, too, and they have the better assets than we do. All this ‘it’s a two-team sweepstakes’ is all media/fan theory. Some teams won’t get in on the action, but smart teams will look at Leonard, George and say ‘we can do that, too’.

        • therealhtj

          therealhtj 1:21 PM on June 7, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          TO gave up an overpaid DeRozan they would’ve happily gotten out of that contract for for nothing. Giving up Tatum could make giving up Marc Gasol look more like Bowie over Jordan. I see where you’re going, but the comparison isn’t apt. It’s one thing getting a piece and going to the finals. It’s a whole other story giving up your best young asset and struggling for an 8 seed.

    • Michael H (Editor)

      Michael H (Editor) 2:13 PM on June 7, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      If this were to happen I would look to sign good players that could help the team this year but could be easily moved in trades if AD hits free agency.

      • mclyne32 (Director) 2:18 PM on June 7, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Yup- What we should have been doing all along.

        • Michael H (Editor)

          Michael H (Editor) 2:38 PM on June 7, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Absolutely. Apparently Magic and Rob Were so focused on sacred cap space that they overlooked the trade angle of clearing cap space.

      • keen observer

        keen observer 5:57 PM on June 7, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Well put. You should be the Lakers GM.

  • keen observer

    keen observer 10:04 AM on May 29, 2019 Permalink  

    This will be interesting 


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      keen observer 10:13 AM on May 29, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Keen’s three step approach to a championship:

      1) LeBron James for Capela, Eric Gordon, PJ Tucker and one of Houston’s first rounders in the coming seasons.

      2) Acquire Anthony Davis (maybe Capela, Ingram and the #4 pick).

      3) Sign Kawhi Leonard (with the LeBron show out of town and AD on board, how could he choose the Clippers?)

      4) Fill out the rest of the roster.

      c- JaVale (Room Exception), Wagner
      pf- AD, Kuz
      sf- Kawhi, PJ Tucker, Bonga
      sg- Gordon, Hart
      pg- Lonzo, Caruso

      Just spitballin’. More fantasies.

      • Magicman (Editor)

        Magicman (Editor) 10:20 AM on May 29, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        So…Houston gets no cap relief, gets older, and you’re asking Houston for a 1st Rounder?

        Morey might look like a Dork, he doesn’t think like one.

        • keen observer

          keen observer 10:25 AM on May 29, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          He’ll do something brilliant. Of course he wouldn’t make a dorky trade like this.

          And once again, for the record, none of our dorky proposed fake trades or any other hypotheticals we throw out there will come to fruition.

          Just look at what happened last summer and the summer before that, etc. Hell, you can go all the way back to Ron Artest.

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 4:02 PM on May 29, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      One possibility that might interest the Lakers is trading the #4 pick and Brandon Ingram to the Rockets for 30-year old Eric Gordon, who’s a career 37.4% three-point shooter. Gordon will make $14.1 million next season while Ingram and the #4 pick would total $14.3 million so it’s a trade the Lakers could make without materially affecting their ability to sign a superstar free agent but something they would not consider if the AD or Beal trades still were on the table.

      Eric Gordon would certainly be a great fit alongside Lonzo at shooting guard with his long range bombing and tough defense. It would also likely make the Lakers a more attractive landing spot for superstars like Kawhi Leonard or even Kyrie Irving since Gordon could play small forward as well as shooting guard. It’s also the kind of trade that Daryl Morey might like for the Rockets since Gordon only has a year left on his contract. Lonzo, Gordon, LeBron, Kawhi, and a center would be a championship starting lineup for the Lakers.

  • keen observer

    keen observer 7:15 PM on May 12, 2019 Permalink  

    Trade LeBron for some solid role players and sign Kawhi.

    • mclyne32 (Director) 7:40 PM on May 12, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Solid role players???
      No way, man.
      Trade him for whomever gets Zion, plus picks!

      • keen observer

        keen observer 8:31 PM on May 12, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        As I put forth earlier: Capela, PJ Tucker, Gordon and picks. Then the Lakers can sign Kawhi Leonard. THAT would be a great team.

        • mclyne32 (Director) 10:39 PM on May 12, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          I would much rather have Zion and picks instead of those guys.

          • keen observer

            keen observer 7:49 AM on May 13, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Well yeah, but they has zero chance. At least my pipedream .. well it also has zero chance!

  • keen observer

    keen observer 10:06 AM on May 6, 2019 Permalink  

    “That man is Kobe” 


    • mclyne32 (Director) 10:48 AM on May 6, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Nah, man.
      Kobe is Kobe.
      Kawhi is great, but has a long way to go to be on par with Bean.

  • keen observer

    keen observer 1:27 PM on May 4, 2019 Permalink  

    A Shout Out to Lawrence Tanter 


  • keen observer

    keen observer 12:50 PM on May 4, 2019 Permalink  

    A Kevin Love Endorsement 


    • LakerTom (Publisher) 12:55 PM on May 4, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      As do Phil Jackson and Kobe Bryant. Lue is also just 34-years old, the same age as Brad Stevens. In fact, I believe today is actually his birthday so maybe he’s now 35-years old.

      • keen observer

        keen observer 1:06 PM on May 4, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Ty Lue turned 42 yesterday. In terms of the “Big Board,” the next Lakers head coach was way down my list of priorities. Who knows, maybe his reputation among players is such that certain FAs who wouldn’t consider the Lakers might reconsider. I just hope that Pelinka allows him to have some input into player personnel decisions. Although I’m not a fan, Bill Plaschke’s article this morning was pretty spot on. Then again, his article two years from now might be one that castigates the decision.

      • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

        Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 1:28 PM on May 4, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Nope, older by 8 years but who’s counting?

    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 1:28 PM on May 4, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      My issue is not with, nor has it ever been with, coach Lue. My issue is with an utter lack of recognition that the way the Lakers have been conducting themselves is completely out of touch with the modern NBA and intelligent ways of doing business.

      Lie might be a great coach both for now and in the future but it doesn’t change the fact the Lakers aren’t learning from their mistakes. Can’t go with your gut on every decision. Seems silly to hire a coach without first announcing who his boss will be, if it’s Rob don’t hide from it. If you’re planning on conducting a search later in the summer don’t be cowardly just hold a press conference. Sun Tzu is rolling in his grave…

      • keen observer

        keen observer 1:29 PM on May 4, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I concur 100%.

      • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

        Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 1:49 PM on May 4, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        To say nothing of this shammockery of a coaching search. 3 whopping candidates when you have the entire NBA to cull and pull from, overseas leagues and so on. So it would seem we’ll be proceeding with our heads up our rears the same way we’ve been doing.

    • mclyne32 (Director) 2:16 PM on May 4, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Has Sith Lord Linda not signed off on Lue yet?
      What’s the hold up?

  • keen observer

    keen observer 6:26 PM on April 22, 2019 Permalink  



  • keen observer

    keen observer 1:38 PM on April 12, 2019 Permalink  

    David Griffin to the Pellies 


  • keen observer

    keen observer 8:35 AM on April 2, 2019 Permalink  


    • keen observer

      keen observer 8:37 AM on April 2, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      It appears that the injury bug killed our season based on numbers like these and the difference in our defensive stats with and without Lonzo. We would probably have been in the hunt had those two been healthy all season.

    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 9:38 AM on April 2, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I had no problems with anything LeBron did on or off the court. The body language thing has been seen on all of his teams it’s just a personality trait. The great ones deal with massive expectations thus feel massive disappointment when it doesn’t work out.

      Yes, injuries did play a part in torpedoing yet another Laker season and since that reason has become so very commonplace with the word ‘Lakers’ I think the question has to start turning towards maybe it’s just as much the players on the team as the staff that treats them. Gary Vitti had a massive amount of injuries to players towards the end of his tenure.

      Marco Nunez and his staff have seen another season where there were still more games lost to injury. With so many players missing so many games (in Lonzo’s case he has yet to play in 100 NBA games, Ingram is at 190, Kuzma is at 147, Hart at 130 out of a potential 164 games or 246 in Ingram’s case) I start to consider the player’s physical capacity as part of the issue. Lonzo has been injured at every stage of his career, I don’t know if he had an entire season of high school basketball where he was significant injury free but he certainly hasn’t had a full season of basketball in several years now.

      If they can’t play than the rest of it really just stops mattering to me. It’s impossible to know how they play even as a unit without LeBron, there simply hasn’t been enough of a body of evidence. They’ve not even played 1/2 a season with LBJ so any predictions or opinions on how that will look next year are shaky, at best. If you want to build the best team around LeBron possible, and he’s the sole Laker who is untouchable at this point, than trading one or more of the younger players is the quickest route to that goal.

      Like you said, what will be reality probably isn’t something we’re discussing here. Nobody saw the trade of Svi or Zubac coming.

  • keen observer

    keen observer 11:46 AM on February 5, 2019 Permalink  

    That’s too much. Demps is a fool if he doesn’t take that. 


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