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  • keen observer

    keen observer 1:06 PM on July 13, 2018 Permalink |  

    Kawhi “Update” 

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    • LakerTom (Publisher) 2:45 PM on July 13, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      From the above article:

      Cris Carter has consistently been a source of reliable news on the Kawhi Leonard situation this year. Carter was represented by Mitch Frankel, who is also representing Leonard.

      This week, there have been reports and speculation of a possible trade of Leonard to the Toronto Raptors.
      “Nothing’s changed from Kawhi’s side from these standpoints: He still wants to go to Los Angeles, and he’s still not interested in being rented out for one season, so that being Philadelphia, Boston, Toronto or any other team,” said Carter on Friday. “The thing that we should know is San Antonio has been in contact with Kawhi and his people, and they’ve told them that if something was to get real, real close, we’ll reach out to you. Well, it’s in their best interest and smart to reach out to him, and typically the other team that’s involved in the trade would be granted permission to reach out to the player that’s being traded. None of those things happened yesterday.”

      Earlier in the week, Carter said Gregg Popovich gave Leonard the indication he would trade him.

      “Kawhi, in meeting with Pop, Pop gave him every indication that he was going to trade him and he was going to try to make Kawhi happy,” Carter reported on Tuesday. “I never said that before, because I was holding it until now. So, all these discussions about Kawhi going to the East, I believe Popovich is trying to accommodate Kawhi and trying to please him.”

      • LakerTom (Publisher) 2:48 PM on July 13, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Push come to shove, the Lakers would love a Kawhi and picks trade for Ingram. My guess is that’s now become the most they would give up. They’re not going to include Kuzma or Hart. Josh pretty much took care of that single handedly this summer.

        • LakerTom (Publisher) 2:50 PM on July 13, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          It’s kind of like a Wiggins for Love kind of deal.
          Ingram has more upside than Wiggins.
          Spurs may finally accept that and trade.

          • John M.

            John M. 3:15 PM on July 13, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            And the Cavs got 1 BIG ring out of it, and they’re headed back to the lottery. Magic’s vision is grander than that.

    • Michael H (Editor)

      Michael H (Editor) 3:30 PM on July 13, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Aloha Tom,
      While you can never say never there is no indication that the Lakers would “love” to trade Brandon for Kawhi. All the reports have actually said that the Lakers have been reluctant to include him in trade talks. Then when you consider that Lebron is high on BI and feels he will be an all star sooner then later I don’t believe we going to trade BI any time soon. Just based on last year, especially the 2nd half it’s not a stretch to see him at 20 6 and 5 this year. At only 20 years old I can see why Lebron and the Lakers want to hold onto him. Actually it appears Lebron is excited to play with this young group. I wouldn’t expect any trades until January at the earliest. And if they like what they see, they may choose to just try and sign a free agent Star next year.

      • LakerTom (Publisher) 3:38 PM on July 13, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Just negotiating stances, Michael. As promising as Brandon is, if you can trade him straight up for a healthy Kawhi, you do it.

        • John M.

          John M. 3:57 PM on July 13, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Don’t hold your breath on that deal. Last we heard it was Brandon, Kyle, Josh, and picks and swaps for a who-knows-what-he-is Leonard.

        • mud

          mud 9:56 AM on July 14, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          no. YOU do it.

          “healthy” includes mentally as well as physically. that guy is a mess.

          if he’s on the Lakers, i’ll root for him, just like i rooted for Rodman.

  • keen observer

    keen observer 11:34 AM on July 12, 2018 Permalink |  

    Kawhi News 

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    • keen observer

      keen observer 11:35 AM on July 12, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Good.

      • havoc

        havoc 11:39 AM on July 12, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        yeah i heard this rumor a couple of days ago..i guess it will be a leonard for either lowry or derozan

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 11:51 AM on July 12, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Spurs might take a lesser deal than the Lakers offer to get Kawhi outta the west and hope that the new team can re-sign him and keep him out for the foreseeable future. Toronto might be a good city for Kawhi…but who really knows at this point?

      • Magicman (Editor)

        Magicman (Editor) 12:26 PM on July 12, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Not a good fit for him in TO. Won’t like it.

        If the Spurs think grabbing Lowry or DeRozan is better than anything else, then it would spell doom.

        Particularly because TO will give up OG or a pick, Not both.

    • mud

      mud 5:41 PM on July 12, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      awesome.

  • keen observer

    keen observer 2:49 PM on July 11, 2018 Permalink |  

    LeBron’s Potential Mini-Robin? 

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    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 3:13 PM on July 11, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Josh Hart could be the best 2 way player on the team but I think BI will end up the Robin in this relationship. JH will be more like Green Arrow.

      • p ang

        p ang 3:23 PM on July 11, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Making Rondo Batman? You know, the grumpy guy with no super powers but his intellect.

    • GDUBinDC

      GDUBinDC 3:40 PM on July 11, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Ain’t lookin’ for no mythical superheroes, just guys who go out a ball hard every night.

      • John M.

        John M. 3:56 PM on July 11, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        It’d be something to watch ’em play in the those capes and tights and funny little masks, tho…

      • LakerTom (Publisher) 3:56 PM on July 11, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        You can’t win in the NBA without superheroes, GDIUB, eh, I mean superstars. :-)

        • GDUBinDC

          GDUBinDC 9:46 PM on July 11, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          The Cs almost made it to the finals without one.

          • mud

            mud 10:16 PM on July 11, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            how does one achieve that title? especially as a young player?

            • GDUBinDC

              GDUBinDC 8:18 AM on July 12, 2018 Permalink

              Ur guess is as good as mine.

            • mud

              mud 9:50 AM on July 12, 2018 Permalink

              people want a NAME, but it’s just as good if a kid becomes a name as if a name is brought in. good play is good play, regardless of hero worship.

  • keen observer

    keen observer 12:06 PM on July 10, 2018 Permalink |  

    Our Modern Day Artest Has Signed! 

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    • Michael H (Editor)

      Michael H (Editor) 12:46 PM on July 10, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      That might be it for any trades for Kawhi at least until the trade deadline. Without moving Deng they would need to have both BI and Zo included. Don’t see that happening.

      • LakerTom (Publisher) 1:38 PM on July 10, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Lance is the room exception, Michael. We can still w&s Deng to make Kawhi trade

        • Michael H (Editor)

          Michael H (Editor) 1:41 PM on July 10, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          No they didn’t sign him with the room. They decided to go with cap space. They still have the room exception available.

          • Michael H (Editor)

            Michael H (Editor) 2:06 PM on July 10, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            They used the left over cap space on Svi.

            • LakerTom (Publisher) 2:50 PM on July 10, 2018 Permalink

              Not sure why they would do that since it unnecessarily eliminates a trade for Kawhi this summer without trading Deng. They must have decided to wait for next year on him period.

  • keen observer

    keen observer 10:40 AM on July 10, 2018 Permalink |  

    Svi for 3! 

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  • keen observer

    keen observer 3:14 PM on July 9, 2018 Permalink |  

    Grrrr … Jerry West! Next!! 

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    • DJ2KB24

      DJ2KB24 3:16 PM on July 9, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      The Logo didn’t get the biggest fish in the pond though, Magic did! Love The Logo though.

    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 3:23 PM on July 9, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Ehhhh, no biggie. I’m more bummed about Brook.

      • DJ2KB24

        DJ2KB24 3:30 PM on July 9, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I was kinda hoping the our SB starters would have been: LBJ. Randle, Ball, Kuz and Ingy.

      • p ang

        p ang 5:48 PM on July 9, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Ditto. Front Office seems to dislike the bigs: Randle, Bryant, Frye and Brook.

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 3:55 PM on July 9, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Played 80 games for the Clipps a year ago; Doc knows what kinda player he’s getting. Big loss for the Rockets defensively after losing Ariza as well….

  • keen observer

    keen observer 10:24 AM on July 9, 2018 Permalink |  

    Luc M’Bah A Moute 

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    • keen observer

      keen observer 10:25 AM on July 9, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Assuming that Kawhi or other behind the scenes deals aren’t coming to fruition, this would be a nice play for small ball purposes. He fits the Magic Johnson vision of versatility and switchability.

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 10:33 AM on July 9, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Everybody keeps saying we need shooters and Magic and Rob keep adding playmakers and defenders. What most forget is that these guys getting added are reserves and we took care of the bench shooting with our two draft picks. I agree with you, Keen, that Luc would be a great addition to the roster. I like him much better than Melo or Fry. He’s the kind of player for whom I’d waive Zubac to create space.

      • keen observer

        keen observer 10:46 AM on July 9, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        See I’m a big fan of Ivica Zubac and I agree wholeheartedly with keeping him over Thomas Bryant. Regardless, Mbah A Moute shot 36.8% from downtown and is one of the better versatile defenders at 6’8″ and obviously has gotten stronger with age. He’ll be 32 in September and would fill another veteran spot. The other guy I like is Montrezl Harrell, but he’s a RFA, so getting him for one year is not an option. Dante Cunningham is still out there and might be a fall back guy. BTW, this notion that we don’t have or that we need “shooters” is a bit overstated. Mychal Thompson thinks it is ridiculous. I like the vision that Magic has to “crack the [Warriors] code, ” as Rajon Rondo put it. Versatilty; switchability, combined with a transition and half court offense that are both efficient.

        • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

          Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 11:00 AM on July 9, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Me too, he’s a solid dude who knows his role and plays it well enough. Not the fastest or the most athletic, to be sure. I’m hoping we see some improved play from him this season, should he still be on the team.

          • keen observer

            keen observer 11:20 AM on July 9, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            I keep saying that Marc Gasol didn’t play in the NBA until he was 24. Ivica is still only 21 and possesses a similar skill set. Like Gasol and all the others, he will eventually step out past the 3 point line, too. He will also learn how to defend the post, alter shots and protect the rim a lot better as he matures. As for Thomas Bryant, something tells me that this was a Magic Johnson decision. Considering what they have done since taking over the front office, there is no reason not to trust the moves they have made. It will be fascinating to watch it unfold on the basketball court!

            • Michael H (Editor)

              Michael H (Editor) 11:53 AM on July 9, 2018 Permalink

              If we sign Luc I’m thinking that’s it for trade talks until at least the trade deadline. As for shooting he’s respectable from 3. Besides we have guys who can shoot. BI, Kuz, KCP, Hart and the rookies all can shoot.

            • keen observer

              keen observer 1:25 PM on July 9, 2018 Permalink

              So can LeBron James. For some reason we keep forgetting about him. :)

            • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

              Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 3:23 PM on July 9, 2018 Permalink

              Yup, and I feel like he’s already good at holding his position in the paint and using verticality. Just needs to find a little more range on defense and get some reps in.

              The Thomas Bryant saga would have been a lot less of a saga had there been no hype session by Rob. Maybe it was to generate interest in the hope of using him to off load Deng’s deal, who knows…

  • keen observer

    keen observer 7:14 AM on July 5, 2018 Permalink  

    Kuz with Nuz? 

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  • keen observer

    keen observer 7:13 AM on July 5, 2018 Permalink  

    An Evolving Plan 

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    • Seely_Iggy (Director)

      Seely_Iggy (Director) 8:02 AM on July 5, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Interesting article by Windhorst, considering he was one of the first analysts to throw his hands in the air and proclaim, “What are the Lakers thinking?!!!”

      • keen observer

        keen observer 11:12 AM on July 5, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Brian Windhorst has been covering LeBron for a long time. He was noticeably upset when I saw him on ESPN following the signing. It was now a reality to him, which explains his initial “thinking,” which was much more an emotional response IMO. He has now returned to being a rational human being.

        • NBA4ever

          NBA4ever 11:18 AM on July 5, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          This is a great article explaining the strategy. I too have now returned to being a rational human being :)

          • Seely_Iggy (Director)

            Seely_Iggy (Director) 11:21 AM on July 5, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            I was worried at first when I saw Windhorst’s reaction. Could he be right? Now I’m more assured that the Lakers do know what they’re doing? Scoot over NBA4ever, I’m taking that seat next to you on the rational human being bench.

      • mclyne32 (Director) 11:37 AM on July 5, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I know Cowherd is a blowhard, but he had very good insight, or knowledge, into the reason behind these signings: LeBron looked around at the existing squad and told Magic that he wanted some players with some “dog in ’em. Players who are tough- one’s that won’t back down from any challenge and aren’t afraid to shut down anyone opponent.”
        This makes a lot of sense to me because our core is talented, but they are still babies. We now have a good blend of youth/finesse and veterans/toughness. Yes, we are still missing a second star needed to take us over the top, but I like the direction Magic, Rob, and LeBron are headed in.

        • LakerTom (Publisher) 11:40 AM on July 5, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Good points, Matt. Let me add another. We’re not done yet and we needed all those midsize expiring contracts to match salaries at the trade deadline. Those one year deals aren’t just for next summer. The Lakers would like to move several of them at the trade deadline to bring in superstars and more shooting. Bottom line, everybody other than LeBron is basically auditioning to remain with the team after the trade deadline.

          • mclyne32 (Director) 2:33 PM on July 5, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Yeah, maybe Portland gives Lillard and CJ up to the trading deadline and then trade Lillard at the deadline.

            • LakerTom (Publisher) 2:52 PM on July 5, 2018 Permalink

              If we don’t trade for Kawhi and don’t W&S Deng, this trade is going to be the template we take into the trading deadline for disappointing teams who need to reboot, like the:

              1. Spurs and Kawhi
              2. Blazers and Dame
              3. Wizards and Wall
              4. Raptors and DeRozan
              5. Wolves and Butler
              6. Hornets and Kemba
              7. Klay and Warrriors

    • Magicman (Editor)

      Magicman (Editor) 9:04 AM on July 5, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Rondo isn’t interested in a Rap career, so, I’m confident is saying he’s old enough, to be able to concentrate solely on Basketball.

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 11:35 AM on July 5, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      What’s really encouraging about this article is LeBron’s insight in NOT wanting another team like he had with the Cavs last season, where all he had were shooters. That’s become the static formula in the league. Surround your superstars with shooters. While you have to have shooters in today’s game, you can’t win unless you also have basketball smarts, playmaking, rebounding, and defense. Those are traits that the young Lakers have in spades and that LeBron needs as he enters the last prime years of his career.

  • keen observer

    keen observer 7:09 PM on July 4, 2018 Permalink  

    Well, Well, Well …. 

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  • keen observer

    keen observer 10:02 AM on July 4, 2018 Permalink  

    A Brook Lopez Rumor! 

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  • keen observer

    keen observer 2:31 PM on July 3, 2018 Permalink  

    Thank the Basketball Gods 

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    • keen observer

      keen observer 2:33 PM on July 3, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      For the tax MLE. Great to see more money flying off the table!

      P.S.- I apologize in advance to anyone who takes offense to the term “basketball gods.” It is purely a well known, often used figure of speech that as far as I know has never created any controversy in the social media or elsewhere.

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 2:35 PM on July 3, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Thank you, Basketball Gods!

      • keen observer

        keen observer 2:37 PM on July 3, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        You have to admit that it is hilarious that Dwight Howard is succeeding Marcin Gortat as the Bullets’ starting center for half the money. LOL!

    • p ang

      p ang 2:41 PM on July 3, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Never heard of a HoFr who got waived. Guess there goes his chance.

      • NBA4ever

        NBA4ever 2:57 PM on July 3, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Nah he’s a lock:
        An eight-time All-Star, eight-time All-NBA Team honoree, five-time All-Defensive member, and three-time Defensive Player of the Year. Olympic Gold Medal

        He’s a clown but he’s HOF

  • keen observer

    keen observer 10:49 AM on July 3, 2018 Permalink  

    Who’s on your wish list? Two spots, 5.7 mil 

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    • LakerTom (Publisher) 10:52 AM on July 3, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      1.Does that assume we W&S or trade Deng?

      2. Does it account for $11M in cap space added by trading for Kawhi $18M and losing Ingram + Hart or Kuzma $7M.

    • keen observer

      keen observer 10:54 AM on July 3, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      1. It assumes that we don’t W&S Deng. We still have 5.7M left.

      2. It assumes no Kawhi trade.

      However, would you W&S Deng if it could land two of these guys on one year deals?

      • LakerTom (Publisher) 11:05 AM on July 3, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        The problem is you have to leave enough money so you can make the Kawhi trade, regardless of what you threaten the Spurs with. That trade has to be done before free agency ends so the Lakers can slot it in while they are under the cap so salaries don’t have to match.

        Once July 6 comes and we have to sign the players with whom we have reached agreement, we will not be able to trade for Kawhi until midseason because we will be over the cap and not have the midsize salaries needed to match Kawhi’s $18 million.

        That’s why we’re not spending the money right now and why the word was we told the Spurs to trade now or we would no longer be interested. If we get the trade, we can W&S Deng to get the additional money to cover the trade. That’s the hold up right now.

        We trade for Kawhi before we close out free agency or we won’t have anothe shot until midseason. Right now, I’m willing to give up Ingram and Kuzma to land Kawhi right now.

        Then you sign Brook Lopez

        PG: Lonzo Ball -- Rajan Rondo
        SG: KCP- Lance Stephenson -- Svi Mykhailiuk
        SF: Kawhi Leonard -- Josh Hart
        PF: LeBron James -- Mo Wagner -- Isaac Bonga
        CE: Brook Lopez -- Javale McGee

    • mclyne32 (Director) 12:37 PM on July 3, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      We need a center and Lopez is the most logical choice.

  • keen observer

    keen observer 10:16 AM on July 3, 2018 Permalink  

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    • mud

      mud 10:17 AM on July 3, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      b-b-b-but, KAT is the center of the future!!!

    • mclyne32 (Director) 10:48 AM on July 3, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Awesome- a real option for next summer, or a trade for this season!

    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 10:49 AM on July 3, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Leonard or Butler? That’s the thing with the NBA and sport in general: the motivations as to why things happen is almost never known at first and rarely discovered in the aftermath unless someone goes on the boob tube and blathers about this and that.

      • mclyne32 (Director) 1:10 PM on July 3, 2018 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Kawhi has the advantage when it comes to defense.
        I think Butler is good, but he’s not a top 5 talent.

  • keen observer

    keen observer 7:16 AM on July 3, 2018 Permalink  

    Three Roster Spots Left 

    One is a two way. I’m not sure if the 4.5 mil for Lance is being counted as the Room Exception or not, but if it is, how about Brook Lopez for 5.6 and Shabazz Napier for the league min?

     
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