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  • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

    Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 1:48 AM on August 24, 2019 Permalink |  

    Thoughts on Dwight Howard…

    -Biggest issue is his credibility. From this:

    To not disclosing his first back surgery prior to camp when he first became a Laker. That, for me, is issue #1. The fact that they made him parade himself in front of the team…for a non-guaranteed deal…says a lot to me. The re-dedication to conditioning says more. Speaking of which…

    -Losing 25 pounds. If true than that’s the best way to add years to his career at this point. Signals an admittance to accepting his role: finisher, paint protecting stalwart, rebounder. We’re talking 20ish mpg, solid P&R finisher when he chooses to be, potentially still an impact defender. Unlikely to finish games. Not unless his defense warrants it. Switching, not paint.

    -AD signing off. To put it mildly, this is huge. Odd that Rondo was included (or was it?) and a new Laker identity begins to take hold. But having AD and LeBron sign off basically signals an acceptance to give it a shot that hasn’t happened for Dwight in awhile. For a guy who has always pulled strength from being liked it could be the one thing that helps push him from problem to productive.

    -Non-guaranteed contract? Best part about this experiment. It can last until 1/06/2020, 11:59 PM PST. If it’s not happening…bye-bye Dwight. We thank you for your effort. Howard has a lot to gain and little more to lose, obviously. The mere fact he’s in this position of signing a NGC and was chosen over Maurice Speights or the theory of signing Carmelo Anthony is huge. Means the Lakers are bending over backwards to accommodate AD with an eye towards defense over scoring. Fit over friends. That, to me, is a good thing. Speights and AD are to duplicative. Noah? Too…Joakhim Noah but old and beat-up. If Howard is going to be our Clint Capella but with some savvy and a goofier personality? Fine.

    All in all, I’m still just really bummed I won’t truly ever see Boogie doing his thing proper like in the purple and gold. Always felt like it was going to be a beautiful relationship. Just seemed like an inevitable kind of destiny. Sometimes that’s just not enough.

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 9:31 AM on August 24, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Great post, Jamie. While I was hoping the Lakers wouldn’t sign Howard, I have to say that I’m impressed with how they involved key players and structured the deal so that it was essentially just a three month trial to get them to the December 15th when they would have the potential ability to make a trade to improve the roster and set clear parameters as to what Howard can and cannot do this time around. Like I said, I still doubt Dwight will be here long but he’s saying the right things and was willing to accept the conditions so I’m willing to root for him as long as he does what he’s supposed to on the court and in the locker room. Bottom line, Lakers made a savvy gamble and I’m hoping it will work out despite my bias and doubts.

      As for Boogie, I feel badly for the man and I hope the Lakers have faith that he can recover. While everybody assumes he’s done as a Laker, I was impressed with Boogie losing 29 pounds and getting into great shape and think there’s still a chance for the Lakers to find a silver lining in the form of his injury giving us a path for us to keep him long term. I would like the Lakers to keep him on the roster and then sign him again for next year if he’s healthy. Two years service would then give us his early Bird rights. If he has a good year, we sign him again for a third year, which gives us his Bird rights. If he’s back to 80% of his preinjury form by then, we could sign him long term to pair with AD.

      The 15th roster spot rarely makes a difference and a little trust and patience could result in the Lakers ending up with a perfect stretch five center to optimize AD, not to mention an example to Davis of how the Lakers treat and appreciate their stars. Boogie is the guy AD wanted to play with and investing just a little could be what keeps AD happy and willing to re-sign with the Lakers long term. Who knows, Cousins could recover and be able to help the Lakers in the playoffs next June. If we get a shot at Iggy, I’d rather cut somebody like Daniels than Boogie.

    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 11:56 AM on August 24, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Totally agree on Boogie, LT. Hope they keep him and we see him take the floor as a Laker. Howard is basically a no-lose situation and I have to say Robbie O has done very well this summer, at least on paper.

  • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

    Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 9:27 PM on August 2, 2019 Permalink  

    Kyle Kuzma says training partner Carmelo Anthony belongs in NBA 

  • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

    Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 1:15 PM on July 12, 2019 Permalink  

    Grizzlies’ Allen ejected after 2 flagrants, tech 

    Grizzlies guard Grayson Allen was ejected from Thursday night’s summer league game against the Celtics after picking up two flagrant fouls in the span of seven seconds.

    Source: Grizzlies’ Allen ejected after 2 flagrants, tech

    Dang dude, already getting a ‘dirty player’ rep?  It’s summer league!  Also was suspended for tripping at Duke and had a rep as being foul prone.  At least he’s on the right squad, lol.

  • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

    Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 11:38 PM on July 5, 2019 Permalink  

    WATCH: Danny Green Announces Signing Of Two-Year Contract With Lakers In Free Agency – Lakers Nation 

    The Los Angeles Lakers have reportedly signed former Toronto Raptors guard Danny Green to a two-year, $30 million contract.

    Source: WATCH: Danny Green Announces Signing Of Two-Year Contract With Lakers In Free Agency – Lakers Nation

  • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

    Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 4:34 PM on July 5, 2019 Permalink  

    My Two-Bits 

    OK, really like 5 bits.

    -Lakers have always been in the running and I think it’s safe to say their offer had the most allure both on and off the court. Leonard has long expressed a desire to play closer to Riverside county (often miscast as Los Angeles, frankly they have as much in common as Manhattan and Long Island). Toronto may have over-relied on what just happened and Leonard has never struck me as guy who in the past in any way, shape or form. Not with how he left the Spurs, not with how he arrived in Toronto and not after he won a championship there. Kawhi has 3 solid options to choose from, I’m sure he’ll make the right one.

    -Danny Green isn’t waiting to see where Kawhi goes in order to follow him, he wants to make as big of a pay day as he can get. He’s 32, never signed a deal for more than $10 million, he’s just come off a dynamite showing in the NBA playoffs and finals. This is it: his best chance to land a big deal for more than a year or 2. Good luck Danny, you’ve earned this chance.

    -DeMarcus Cousins is waiting to see how the Lakers end up. I don’t think he wants to play for the minimum and GS can offer him more than that. Seems like they haven’t or we’d have heard about it. So where does he go? If Rondo and AD are on the Lakers and they offer him a minimum deal with a wink and a handshake offer of more money later that might be the best he can do after his two injuries in just over 1 year. I hope Boogie finds something better post Leonard signing, which I’m sure he’s also hoping for, but that offer may simply not materialize a la Isaiah Thomas.

    -We’re already a playoff team if Davis and James don’t suffer any major injuries. Yes we currently only have a handful of aged vets and Kuzma on the roster to pair along with whomever does well through summer league and training camp and they get a roster spot offer but there are a lot of solid playoff caliber rotation players out there. Whether Leonard signs here or we use that money on 2-3 players we’re in as good a position as we’ve been in several decades. We already have 2 of the top 5 players in the game today. We have a potential All-Star in Kuzma. We’re not relying on a bunch of unproven players to take that ‘Pascal Siakhim step’ we’re relying on one. The air has cleared a bit and a fresh start is, once again, on the horizon. Difference being this one has the best foundation under it yet. We’re not the Knicks blowing chance after chance, not the Celtics under-playing their hand and not trading Kyrie when he became a problem, we’re the Lakers and we had a very, very rough end to the season up until Draft Night but that was the day when the clouds started to clear and I have no problem saying that I may have under-respcted Rob’s ability to get this done correctly. I still say we blew this from a PR angle 100%, let magic run away with the narrative and ESPN turn us into click-bait fodder. One press conference or good Tweet changes all that. But, for all of that, here we are.

    -LeBron going to win MVP next season. You read it here first. Leonard will win a scoring title, Davis will win DPOY, LBJ will be MVP. Am I jumping the gun on assuming Kawhi is coming here? I dunno, maybe……….naaaaaaaaaw. Let’s do this!

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 5:23 PM on July 5, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Great post, Jamie. We’re pretty much back to seeing things with the same eyes. While nothing’s for sure, I feel confident that we’ve done everything we can to convince Kawhi to join the Lakers and would be surprised if he decides otherwise but he’s clearly a different breed of cat. I just don’t see him wanting to stay in Toronto for five years. I think the pull of home is too strong and now that he’s back in San Diego, I don’t see him wanting to leave and I don’t see him opting for the Clippers over the Lakers.

      I’m also happy to see you finally coming around to accepting that Rob and the front office has done an excellent job not only pulling off the Anthony Davis trade but also setting up things so we have the cap space to sign Kawhi. There was no doubt they had a huge mountain of issues to overcome and that’s obviously undermined our pitch to Kawhi but I’ve been impressed with how tight they’ve kept the lid on everything and even managed to get Magic back in the fold again. Patience and quiet execution were the key.

      Whatever happens, I think we’re going to be one of the top teams in the league and a legitimate championship contender. I love that every player we’ve been linked with has been a great candidate unlike last summer. Shooters and defenders. We’ve managed to pull the organization back together and put the dysfunction of last year behind us. Players want to come here to play with LeBron and AD and I love how LeBron is making sure that Kawhi and AD know that he’s going to be working to optimize their opportunities. In the end, I believe that’s what’s going to convince Kawhi to wear purple and gold.

    • therealhtj

      therealhtj 5:55 PM on July 5, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Riverside to LA is more like Manhattan, Kansas to Manhattan NYC.

      • p ang

        p ang 7:44 PM on July 5, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        while Riverside to Toronto is more like Toronto to Riverside?

        Definitely closer to home,right?

        • Magicman (Editor)

          Magicman (Editor) 8:21 PM on July 5, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Bite me.

          World class city and beautiful women. Can the State of Kansas claim either? Lol.

          • p ang

            p ang 8:36 PM on July 5, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            ah, the master of the non sequitur.

            In any case, ever been to Ks? sheesh. tell me when your coming, I’ll show you where Superman grew up.

          • Michael H (Editor)

            Michael H (Editor) 9:15 PM on July 5, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Kansas could have beautiful women except they all move to L.A to break into show business and modeling. Lol

    • mclyne32 (Director) 7:52 PM on July 5, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I think it’s playing for the team he grew up rooting for that just so happens to be pretty close to place he now calls home, San Diego. If the Clippers had moved back down here, he would be a Clipper now. Also, for those who not already know, San Diego, at least most of it, is very different from Riverside.
      Come on Kawhi!!!!!

      • Michael H (Editor)

        Michael H (Editor) 9:17 PM on July 5, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Danny Green will sign with the Lakers if we don’t get Kawhi. He has 2 rings, he will sign for the payday.

  • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

    Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 1:49 PM on July 4, 2019 Permalink  

    Happy 4th of July Lakerholics! 

    On this day celebrating our freedom and independence let’s not forget to afford that freedom of choice and personal independence to everyone, American, immigrant, and Kawhi Leonard alike. We’re only as strong as we allow ourselves to be and if we forget the weakest link or take away from others that which we enjoy we cease to be a beacon of hope and spirit in the world and become the petty bully we often denounce. Be safe, no trips to the emergency room, and get grilling! Thanks for being you and letting me be me.

  • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

    Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 9:25 PM on July 1, 2019 Permalink  

    Talk about your whirlwinds! Lakers playing the river card hard core. Most of the NBA anted up on the flop and walked away from the table. Sure, there will be some winners on down the line but we’re still playing the only hand that matters in basketball. If we land Leonard we’ll be looking pretty good both now and on down the line. It doesn’t sound like he’s actually met with any of the teams yet so small wonder we haven’t heard any news. Since he said he’d give Toronto the final presentation slot I expect that Wednesday, at the earliest, is when we could hear.

    What I hope is that we’re also in communique with Danny Green’s rep, Boogie Cousins rep, and everyone still at Klutch. Small surprise there. One of the latest trends in the NBA is for an agency to house their players on a select list of teams. Klutch is all about LA, CAA is all about New York (both teams) and so on. Going to be interesting to see how the league approaches how this off season went down. Hard to believe there was zero contact prior to yesterday but I’m sure everything was on the up and up.

    Last notion for the night: If we do miss out I’ll be curious if we ever hear the ‘why not’ from Leonard or his people. If it’s over something silly, which seems beyond possible at this point because the Lakers are squarely on this path, that will be a shame. Hard to believe they won’t green light any demand Leonard makes except maybe to have a permanent chocolate fondue fountain installed in the locker room. Everyone knows that belongs on the team bus.

  • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

    Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 2:32 PM on June 29, 2019 Permalink  

    Sources: Walker, Celtics to finalize deal Sunday 

    Kemba Walker is expected to finalize a four-year, $141 million deal with the Celtics when the free agency period begins at 6 p.m. ET Sunday, sources told ESPN.

    Source: Sources: Walker, Celtics to finalize deal Sunday

  • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

    Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 9:20 AM on June 27, 2019 Permalink  

    Sources: Celtics front-runners to sign Kemba 

    The Celtics have emerged as the front-runners to land Hornets guard Kemba Walker once free agency opens on Sunday, league sources tell ESPN’s Adrian Wojnarowski.

    Source: Sources: Celtics front-runners to sign Kemba

  • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

    Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 2:25 PM on June 26, 2019 Permalink  

    Lakers fans deserve better than what Jeanie Buss said in first public comments 

    Lakers fans deserve better than what owner Jeanie Buss offered in her first public comments since the team’s season-ending implosions, Bill Plaschke writes.

    Source: Lakers fans deserve better than what Jeanie Buss said in first public comments

    • mclyne32 (Director) 2:28 PM on June 26, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Bill’s never happy with ANYTHING that comes out of Lakerland.
      Just accept that she’s not the best at informing her loyal fans and move on.

      • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

        Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 2:33 PM on June 26, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I thought this was a fair article. Basically asking for the version of Jeannie that strongly ousted Jim, resisted a coup and not the one that spouts ‘fake news’ when it’s not and owns up to the reality facing the team. I agree that Plaschke can be prone to outright bashing with little to no reporting to support it, this didn’t feel like one of those articles.

        Also, hard to move on when everything stated in the article remains: yes, Rob is the new dual role role President/GM, she has confidence…why? Linda has worked with her for 30 years, great, but Jeannie is now more than just the business side she, along with LeBron, are the face of the Lakers is Linda just a sounding board or something more? And so on, frankly I have a lot of the same questions Billy P raised in the article and, since she’s answering glibly from a red carpet there really aren’t a lot of answers.

    • p ang

      p ang 3:51 PM on June 26, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Jeannie, please give this guy Bill a hug.

      Has anybody on Laker top brass even talked to this guy at all?

      • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

        Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 4:35 PM on June 26, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Laker brass hasn’t talked to anybody. They’ve only given hit and run snippets during coaching press conferences or red carpet events. That’s why the narrative is completely out of control, unlike when she ousted Jim. It may be all un-true but that’s the b***h about perception: until tamed it runs rampant and speculation is just as easily perceived as truth.

        • p ang

          p ang 4:53 PM on June 26, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          on Plaschke. the guy has been ghosted by the Lakers for so long its pitiful. he writes about the team yet has no access. he’s doing his best to attract their attention much like Magic (quirky Uncle Earvin) is doing.

          On Jeannie. Doubt anything she says will be taken positively. She and Rob are unproven talents as far as everybody is concerned so anything they do and say will be questioned. Thats a no win situation. So until whatever they are planning produces postitve results (ahem rings or at least get to the Finals) they will be analysed, second guessed and criticized. Best course is stay quiet which they are doing.

  • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

    Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 1:51 PM on June 26, 2019 Permalink  

    Lakers Extend Qualifying Offers to Alex Caruso and Johnathan Williams 

    The Los Angeles Lakers have extended qualifying offers to guard Alex Caruso and forward Johnathan Williams.

    Source: Lakers Extend Qualifying Offers to Alex Caruso and Johnathan Williams

    • Michael H (Editor)

      Michael H (Editor) 2:05 PM on June 26, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I’m sure this is to prevent another team from swooping in on them. But they will need renounce the rights if they want to clear cap space. I like both of them for the bench. If they renounce them it will probably be with an understanding that they will sign them after they sign the big free agents.

    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 2:10 PM on June 26, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Jonathon Williams’ QO, should he accept, is for an extension (essentially) of his 2 Way G-League deal, no cap hit at all.

      Caruso is a slight bit more complicated:


      • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

        Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 2:17 PM on June 26, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Basically Caruso’s situation breaks down three ways:

        -he accepts and doesn’t win a full roster spot in camp and chooses to sign another Laker 2-Way (no cap hits on 2 Way G League deals).

        -if we don’t come close to the $32 mil open space to sign a max free agent then this happens: Takes up $1.6 mil in space (but removes $900k roster fee) . If revoked, cap hold drops to $1.4 mil. If he agrees to sign at min, they can revoke, renounce and he’s off their cap. Then when over, sign him at min. Rights restore in 2020

        -if we clear the cap space and sign a max player then this could go down: Lakers @ $32 mil near max: Agree to Caruso at min, revoke QO, renounce him/every FA. Sign $32 mil player. Sign THT (& other rookies) to 3+ yr deals. Trade Zo, BI, Hart, Hunter, Jones, Wagner, Bonga, etc to Pels and ? (Hawks?). Sign Caruso, room exception & min players

        All signs point to Caruso having a lot of advocates in the organization. I hope he comes back, dude has sneaky hops, he’s crafty like a vet and he can shoot well enough for 3rd stringer, maybe even a 2nd string PG. Still has a small sample size so a lot of unknowns…

        • Michael H (Editor)

          Michael H (Editor) 3:18 PM on June 26, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          I hope he comes back too. The one thing I know for sure is he earned a roster spot somewhere in the league so I doubt if he would agree to another 2 way deal.

  • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

    Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 9:52 AM on June 26, 2019 Permalink  

    Sources: Durant declines $31.5M player option 

    The Warriors’ Kevin Durant has declined his $31.5 million player option and is huddling with his business manager in New York, mulling his free-agency options, sources tell ESPN’s Adrian Wojnarowski.

    Source: Sources: Durant declines $31.5M player option

  • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

    Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 2:04 PM on June 21, 2019 Permalink  

    Got these jams going at work today. Groovy stuff from another era.

  • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

    Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 4:27 PM on June 20, 2019 Permalink  

    Rough Laker Plan:

    1) LBJ
    2) AD
    3) KK (for now)
    4) Room Exception (we’re under the cap so we only get the room exception)
    5) vet min
    6) vet min
    7) vet min
    8) vet min
    9) vet min
    10) vet min
    11) vet min
    12) vet min
    13) vet min
    14) 2nd rounder (purchased or included in a potential expanded trade
    15) 2nd rounder (purchased or included in a potential expanded trade
    A) G-League 2-Way
    B) G-League 2-Way

    I’m assuming we’re able to get at least 2 teams to cough up a 2nd rounder for straight cash or as part of a trade that includes Bonga or Wagner or Jones. If, for whatever reason, we don’t go that route you can slot those 3 players into roster spots 5-8 which looks a little less daunting. Also we could end up purchasing or acquiring more 2nd rounders than I show above, I’m just making an assumption we’ll get at least 2. Could go a lot of different ways.

    There will be good players who will come here to play with AD and LBJ for the vet minimum. Carmelo Anthony is on my list. Really any good player who has made his big money and is north of 32 years old could be a potential target for those vet minimum slots. If we trade out Kuzma, Wagner and Bonga and bring back zero 2nd rounders we’ll have the RE as the only real tool besides vet mins.

    Some helpful things to remember:

    -You can go over the cap to sign players to a minimum deal, minimum deals can only 1 or 2 years in duration. https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2018/06/nba-minimum-salaries-for-201819.html

    -2-Way G-League contracts DO NOT count against your salary cap at all. They are treated separately. It’s why I really want us to talk Caruso into another 2-way deal, NBA players with 4 or fewer years of service are eligible for 2 ways (he signed a 1 year 2-way last year, his second season, so he’s eligible for either a 1 or 2 year 2-Way Deal before he doesn’t fit the criteria) https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2017/04/hoops-rumors-glossary-two-way-contracts.html

    -Can’t sign your way into being over the cap and be gifted the more useful Mid_level Exception. Teams over the cap get it because it’s really the only tool they have (other than vet mins or the draft) to improve the team. Since we’ll start the summer under the cap (because so many of our deals will expire) we’ll only get the room exception. The idea being if you have room under the cap you can sign players to whatever amount you want, even if you go over the cap in the process. But, no matter who you slice it, for us we won’t have access to that deal until next summer, theoretically.

    This was in response to mclyne down yonder but felt it helpful enough to repost up here.

    • mclyne32 (Director) 4:29 PM on June 20, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Thanks dude! A very detailed answer.

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 4:33 PM on June 20, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      TIMING IS STILL IMPORTANT. Key is adding Wagner, Bonga, and Jones to AD trade as that extra salary makes it a legal matching salaries deal meaning Lakers can use cap space to sign a max free agent and then execute trade. Of course, since July 6th is deadline day, they need to close deal on max contract free agent before moratorium ends. In other words, they need to find team, hopefully Atlanta, to take contracts of Wagner, Bonga, and Jones and make deal with max contract free agent or multiple elite role players ALL BEFORE JULY 6.

      That means the Lakers have to have all of their ducks in a row to make this work. If Rob and the front office can pull this off, it will be as masterful a job as David Griffin is doing on the AD trade. Lots of moving pieces and decisions to be made. It could make going after Brogdon difficult since he is an RFA but I have a hunch the big score is going to Kawhi Leonard joining LeBron James and Anthony Davis to form the first Top Five Big three ever in the NBA.

  • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

    Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 1:35 PM on June 19, 2019 Permalink  

    Lakers pulled off the Anthony Davis trade because they are the Lakers 

    The Lakers are the one NBA franchise that can fail upward. This Anthony Davis trade wasn’t a triumph of their front office. This was a victory for their brand.

    Source: Lakers pulled off the Anthony Davis trade because they are the Lakers

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 2:12 PM on June 19, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Spot on.
      Once Rich Paul told the Celts they had no chance and Zion went to the Pels instead of the Knicks, there was no other deal to made other than with the Lakers. Didn’t take a mastermind to make a deal that pretty much coulda made itself.

      • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

        Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 2:42 PM on June 19, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Nope, just took playing the cards you were dealt without over-thinking the hand (although a case could be made for under-thinking this trade). Way I look at it is this: Rob did his job, same as Magic when he knocked on LeBron’s door at the earliest possible moment. These weren’t deals like we saw Jerry pull off to get Shaq’s signature on the dotted these were ‘we didn’t mess it up by showing up eating a hamburger and talking with our mouths full’. Which, in some ways, is an actual improvement for the current front office’s track record, lol.

        The real barometer will be the rest of the roster. However it fills out will inform us if things are really improving or if they’re just winning participation trophies, the best possible participation trophies.

      • LakerTom (Publisher) 3:38 PM on June 19, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Wait a minute. I swear I remember you jumping on the Paul George stayed with the Thunder and Kawhi Leonard is going to stay with the Raptors bandwagon and expecting the Celtics to make the same gamble regardless of what Rich Paul was saying? Don’t remember any optimism from you that Rob or the Lakers front office could pull off the trade for AD?

        • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

          Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 4:26 PM on June 19, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          I didn’t. But it happened and this is the new reality. Paul George did stay with the Thunder, btw. Celtics got scared off by Rich Paul and AD’s threat of being a one-year rental (like the article said, I agree). We’ll have to wait and see what Leonard is going to do, he might end up a Raptor, again. Makes a lot of sense for him to sign a 1-year and reap the economic benefit for his 10 year service mark he hits the following season (although injuries have a way of ruining that dream as I’m sure he knows).

          My point is Rob did his job at an acceptable level, with no other team really bringing a haul like we offered to the table the sole reason NOLA would have to not trade with us was spite. Griffin got everything he wanted and could net even more if Rob dumps more contracts on them to open enough space for a max salaried player. Optimism has nothing to do with it. I never gave Magic a ton of credit for convincing LeBron to come here, it’s well-known LBJ asked the family ‘where do you want to go?’ Family said Lakers. He’s a Laker.

          It’s not hard to make a trade when there aren’t any other trade partners at the table. If Boston had included Tatum and Brown plus their haul of picks this might be a very different moment in time. they didn’t. Rob didn’t convince Ainge not to do that, Rich Paul and AD did. Same goes for every team but the Knicks who are as big a mess as we are right now.

          Like I said, the real barometer will be how the rest of the roster gets filled out. I’m also hoping to hear details emerge that ROb did include language in the handshake deal to put it off until the end of July but it doesn’t sound like he did hence the mad scramble to clear the last 3 contracts not named James or Kuzma. How he fills out those 12 other slots will be what defines his success this off season, not Anthony Davis.

          I’m still wondering how Jeannie forced Magic out when she had no idea he was leaving, lol.

          • LakerTom (Publisher) 4:36 PM on June 19, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Sorry Jamie, I was thinking of Mongo when I wrote that.

            • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

              Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 4:44 PM on June 19, 2019 Permalink

              I think he and I have the relatively cautious opinion when it comes to genius of Rob Pelinka. Like I said, he did his job, didn’t blow it, and the debate as to whether he over-paid for AD is one that will be conducted with the benefit of hindsight. AD has his own injury problems folks tend to overlook, same as BI and Ball. He’s not a well-tested playoff performer, there’s risk on both sides. Lakers gave up just about every tool to build a team except money, of which we have a limited amount and will be squeezed even more if we sign that max free agent. If Rob builds a great team with those limitations than my respect for him will rise but not until he does it. Show me, I don’t do dreams or fancies or faith. I can say that I hope he does well but that I do not expect him to do well. He’s not my own kid, he’s a guy I don’t know who has been a part of a front office that hasn’t conducted business very well, his role in all that is as yet undetermined but I find it hard to believe he had zero say in every roster move up until Jemerrio Jones and Anthony Davis, makes no sense. If Jeannie was so in favor of him why would she allow him to be marginalized? If Magic was so absentee how did he pull all the strings? Nothing more than following the logic, really. I’m not proposing theories as to why, just observing what has been. Until someone actually says something about it all we have to go on is click-bait BS and fan theories, neither of which hold much water with me.

            • LakerTom (Publisher) 4:47 PM on June 19, 2019 Permalink

              I think how we build out the rest of the roster around LeBron and AD will give us a good measure of how good Rob Pelinka is a general manager. I’m sure we’re all hoping he will do a great job, we will win multiple championships, and Rob will be redeemed and win EOY.

          • LakerTom (Publisher) 4:45 PM on June 19, 2019 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            I also view both the Paul George and Kawhi Leonard situations as outliers rather than anything that could become a rule.

            Not sure what happened in the PG situation other than PG got swayed by Russell Westbrook and the environment there and maybe didn’t want the pressure of the Lakers. I’ll bet he feels some regret right now as the Thunder are looking to get rid of guys to avoid the luxury tax. Anyway, there’s always a first time and I think that was it.

            As for Kawhi, I think he’s going back to LA. I’ve had a strong gut feeling that he might end up on the Lakers. Unlike the other guys, he’s not a superstar whose ego demands he has the ball 30% of the time. In fact, he was quoted as saying he wouldn’t mind playing with two other superstars if it extended his career.

            The other thing that makes his situation different is the Spurs made a terribly stupid trade to avoid trading him to the Lakers. Giving up Green and Kawhi and not getting back Siakam was a huge mistake by Pops. I think the Pelicans saw that and that was why Griffin ultimately traded to the Laker. Didn’t want to cut off his nose despite his face like the Spurs did.

            • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

              Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 4:48 PM on June 19, 2019 Permalink

              “Didn’t want to cut off his nose despite his face like the Spurs did.”

              Probably, he’s smart and it shows in how he structured his contract with Pelican’s ownership (by that I mean he was given a large amount of leeway to run things how he saw fit). As to the rest about Leonard, we’ll see. President Bush trusted his gut and we’re still paying for it, lol.

              I kid. Point is, we’ll know soon enough. Speculation always rubs me wrong, just gets to the point where any theory can be validated, emotion takes the place of logic and none of it will actually come to pass and Leonard will end up in Portland.

            • Seely_Iggy (Director)

              Seely_Iggy (Director) 5:02 PM on June 19, 2019 Permalink

              OK Tom, I’m sorry but you kept using the phrase and it just drives me nuts. The saying goes, “to cut off his nose to spite his face”, not “despite”. There, I said it :)

            • LakerTom (Publisher) 5:03 PM on June 19, 2019 Permalink

              Haha. My apologies. Thanks, Seely.

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