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  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 6:35 PM on April 5, 2017 Permalink  

    Luke playing Metta now, ha, we were up 26. That’s a boy Luke, TANK!!! We could still win this. Either Orlando has to win 1 more or we gotta lose 1 more not to tie for 3rd with them, sheesh.

     
  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 3:22 PM on April 5, 2017 Permalink  

    Deng and Moz, just one last middle finger to the Laker organization from Mitch and Jimmie, lol!

     
  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 4:39 PM on April 4, 2017 Permalink  

    Just occurred to me that unlikely as it would be, Nets could win 4 out of there 5 games and finish with 22 wins. How crazy would it be to see Lakers, Suns and Nets all tie with 22 wins?

    PS- I think Lopez is auditioning.

     
    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 6:11 PM on April 4, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      The real crazy part is that the Sixers could easily end up with the 4th & 5th picks in this loaded draft to go along with Simmons & Embiid

      • keen observer

        keen observer 6:20 PM on April 4, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Yeah, every draft is “loaded,” like 2014. Everyone is an expert. They’re all crapshoots and only 5-7 years of hindsight tells us which ones were truly “loaded.” If the quality of the players in the tournament is any indication, it looks like a sh!t pool of players. Not one of the players from last night’s crappy game will amount to much.

        • MongoSlade

          MongoSlade 6:42 PM on April 4, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          I don’t think anybody in that title game will go in the top 10….

          • keen observer

            keen observer 6:50 PM on April 4, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Collins from Gonzaga and Jackson from UNC have a shot at being first round picks, which is an indication of how NOT loaded this draft might turn out to be.

            • MongoSlade

              MongoSlade 6:55 PM on April 4, 2017 Permalink

              Being the 20th pick and being the 5th pick is kinda different.

            • keen observer

              keen observer 7:51 PM on April 4, 2017 Permalink

              Not necessarily.

            • AK27

              AK27 8:14 PM on April 4, 2017 Permalink

              “Not necessarily.”

              Lol..yeah..”necessarily” has never been the argument…it’s all about trying to maximize odds…a concept beyond your comprehension..

            • keen observer

              keen observer 8:25 PM on April 4, 2017 Permalink

              Who would you rather have, Nikola Jokic or Julius Randle? Devin Booker or D’Angelo Russell? Steven Adams or Anthony Bennett? Giannis Antetokounmpo or Victor Oladipo? Can you spell C-R-A-P-S-H-O-O-T? Do you even have a remote understanding that it is very difficult to predict how these kids will perform at the next level wherever they are drafted with rare exceptions?

            • MongoSlade

              MongoSlade 9:01 PM on April 4, 2017 Permalink

              But you do realize that every player you named came in thru the draft…right? So it’s gotta be more beneficial to have as many picks as possible in order to find those special players. Especially in a salary cap system where they’re paid so much less in their early years. It’s really just simple math & common sense.

            • AK27

              AK27 10:32 PM on April 4, 2017 Permalink

              Lol..you’re hopeless…difficulty in prediction is the very reason the task has value…that doesn’t mean the outcome is random or tantamount to a crapshoot…quit your amateurish tripe and learn how to assess the probability of success of picks with samples of sufficient size for different draft positions..your examples don’t prove a d**n thing..

            • keen observer

              keen observer 7:17 AM on April 5, 2017 Permalink

              So the point is that, for the most part, all good NBA players are drafted. Well alrighty then.

      • DJ2KB24

        DJ2KB24 7:17 PM on April 4, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        MS-I wonder if the Embiid kid is done? Hope not, but man.

        • MongoSlade

          MongoSlade 9:10 PM on April 4, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Meniscus injury isn’t necessarily a death sentence and it was reportedly a minor surgery. I would be more concerned if it was the same foot injury again.

          • tate793

            tate793 9:16 PM on April 4, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            “It’s really just simple math & common sense.”

            Unfortunately, common sense isn’t a flower that grows in everybidy’s garden.

        • tate793

          tate793 12:21 AM on April 5, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Amit, Mr. Keen cannot differentiate between “odds” abd “probability”. That’s why he considers everything a “crapshoott”. Even in craps, some combinations are more likely than others. But, sans a basic grasp of statistics, he has become a hapless psuedo revisiomist.

          • keen observer

            keen observer 7:18 AM on April 5, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Sure, Mr. Tate. Your HATRED for the highly touted D’Angelo Russell says it all.

    • tate793

      tate793 12:44 PM on April 5, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Yes, young Master Oscar. My “hatred” was only directed towards the Buss Boy, and one Pau the Vindictive Foo Foo. Don”t hate DAR, just his shenanigans, lack of work ethic and effort. Shoulda moved DAR before moving Lou. Shoulda sent out a “bait” package of DAR, Deng and Julius and see if PG, JB or GH’s people bit.

      “Highly Touted” doesn’t translate to success, Master Oscar.

      • keen observer

        keen observer 3:54 PM on April 5, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        The fact that you HATED a player who the Lakers would have never won their last two championships without says a lot about you, too.

    • tate793

      tate793 6:47 PM on April 5, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      .

  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 6:03 PM on April 3, 2017 Permalink  

    Kentucky’s Fox declares for the NBA Draft.

     
  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 11:58 AM on April 3, 2017 Permalink  

    Laker winables (I didn’t see that last one coming, ouch!) 2. Suns winables 2, and Orlando winables 1.

    PS-LT, I think if we win out and Orlando loses out, we tie then record-wise. What then?

     
  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 5:34 PM on April 1, 2017 Permalink  

    I now think that the only no trades are Ingy and Zuby. Everyone else is on my table. The Draft Pic and Freebies will be front and center as to what we give up in trade or wait a year?

     
    • tate793

      tate793 6:39 PM on April 1, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Yep. Another $#itty game for Russell. There’s another seldom talked about some FAs don’t want to come here. His level of immaturity is foreboding.

      • keen observer

        keen observer 7:21 PM on April 2, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        The level of Lakers fans’ impatience and lack of understanding of his situation is even more foreboding.

    • Magic Phil

      Magic Phil 9:40 PM on April 1, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I think Larry is also a keeper. He has a lot of fundamentals and it’s much easier to fit such a player in any system than a player without fundamentals.

      • DJ2KB24

        DJ2KB24 10:31 AM on April 2, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        If he is a trade asset, bye. I like him, but he just can’t shoot.

    • tate793

      tate793 8:47 PM on April 2, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      His situation is simple, and obvious. He was over-hyped, over confident, unathlegic, one demensional, lazy and immature. There are numerous players, his age and younget, who committed to professional behavior, professoonal work ethic (to improve their deficiencies), and a professional level off effort on the court.

      Your understanding of the game, the team and the roster is no more laudable than mine. Patience? When you can see the “way out” of the mire, and the same erronious path continues to be trod, it results in frustration, not impatience.

      Long time Laker fans do tend to appreciate a stellar product being put on the floor. Something you Johnny-Come-Lately’s might not understand.

  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 2:17 PM on March 31, 2017 Permalink  

    MM? Where are you?

     
  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 7:22 PM on March 29, 2017 Permalink  

    I have Lakers with 3 winables at least : Minny (A), Kings (H) and Minny (H). PLUS Golden State if they REST players.

    Phoenix with 2 winables: Dal (H) and Kings (A).

    I would bet we tie or move ahead of Phoenix.

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 10:54 AM on March 31, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I have a hunch none of those game listed are winnable.
      Lakers will win the #2 seed with one less win.
      LOL. Both teams are committed to losing out.

  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 3:36 PM on March 29, 2017 Permalink  

    Shuss the talk about Fox. Low key friends, let’s do the low key, lol. If we would get him, that could change trade dynamics for me. If not, I sure would like to keep Russ, Clarky, Ingy and Zubby. For me, everyone else is on the table. Now.. Luke stop playing Russ and Clarky 40 minutes! About 20 would be fine. Let Robby, Ennis, Brewer, Black and such play major minutes.

     
  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 7:37 PM on March 27, 2017 Permalink  

    Wow, Spurs whalloped Cavs tonite!

     
  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 2:18 PM on March 27, 2017 Permalink  

    I think we have at least 3 winables left: Minny (A), Kings (H) and Minny (H).

    Phoenix has 3 unlikely winables left: Atl (A), Mavs (H) and Kings (A)

     
  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 1:23 PM on March 26, 2017 Permalink  

    We will get to take another look at Fox in a bit.

     
  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 12:38 PM on March 25, 2017 Permalink  

    Not an I told you so, but I told you all that the Fox kid is really good. You can have Ball, I want Fox. I’m proud of the kids for last nite, Wow, me, of all peeps, would like to keep most of the kids, especially, Russ, Clarky, Zubby and Ingy. I would let Nance and Randle go. If we can’t signa Freebie, then, yes, me of all peeps, wait until next year and then sign and shine and wheel and deal.

    PS-I also said that of the 5 winables, this was one of those and we won. The remaining three are Minny (H) and Sac (H) and NO (H). Phoen has three winables as well left. Buy we are better than they are, so?

     
    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 12:48 PM on March 25, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Nobody’s taking Fox top 3.
      Even with that impressive performance most of the talk today is still about Lonzo….lol

      • DJ2KB24

        DJ2KB24 12:49 PM on March 25, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Lozo can’t shoot. Fox has an overall better game.

        MS, you West coast? I’m Indyland and see Fox alot. I don’t get to see Ball much. Seems like he has a Larry Nance shot, ugh.

        • CSTracy10

          CSTracy10 1:59 PM on March 25, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          I was impressed with Fox, I think he could be a Derek Rose/Rondo Hybrid (meaning he is athletic and long, might be a good defender and will be able to get to the rack but wayyy to early to KNOW, and it was 1 game)

          Also, Lonzo CAN shoot. Look at his season numbers, 1 bad game does not tarnish the other 30

      • MongoSlade

        MongoSlade 1:07 PM on March 25, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Just browsing the mock drafts…Fox would have to make an astronomical leap to land in the top 3. 1 bad game from Lonzo isn’t gonna drop him outta the top 3.

        • John M.

          John M. 1:14 PM on March 25, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          I’m not holding my breath for the next 19-year-old phenom to sweep us into the playoffs.

        • MongoSlade

          MongoSlade 1:19 PM on March 25, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Who’s making that claim? You got 3 ways to add talent to the roster….might as utilize all the available avenues….

          • John M.

            John M. 1:29 PM on March 25, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            I just meant as young as we already are, it’s gonna be awhile no matter who we may draft. We’ve got half a dozen guys now who need more time, so I look at whoever comes as just another puzzle piece. We all know it’s a crapshoot when we’re putting together fantasy trades for someone like PG, who went #10.

            • DJ2KB24

              DJ2KB24 2:09 PM on March 25, 2017 Permalink

              Just fun to be GM, lol! I like it!

            • John M.

              John M. 2:23 PM on March 25, 2017 Permalink

              Yeah, much better to play than be a real GM and have guys like us watchin’ your every move…

  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 4:17 PM on March 24, 2017 Permalink  

    Magic-Don’t give away the farm for PG. Randle and our late first rounder. George is gonna walk anyway. Go after Hayward! We need a couple and I would like to keep Ingy and Zubby plus our (?) first high pick, Clarky or Russ. By the way, which way is the wind blowing, lol!

     
    • mclyne32 (Director) 4:44 PM on March 24, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Randle and our top 3 pick wouldn’t get it done, Deej.
      He’s going to demand our Top 3, plus, Ingram, plus others for PG.
      Hayward ain’t coming.
      We have a chance with PG- we NEED to take it. He’s good enough to attract other great players.

      • John M.

        John M. 5:01 PM on March 24, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        But not good enough for other great players to go to Indiana…guess Hollywood’s still got it!

        • LakerTom (Publisher) 5:27 PM on March 24, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          A little magic goes a long way, too, John. I do think there will be a much more receptive vibe from free agents going forward. Magic and Rob present a more promising and positive future for the franchise and players will see that. Next year will be a start but I think the smart move will be to save our money for summer of 2018 and even increase it by working deals to get rid of Deng and Mozgov this summer plus upgrading the roster without compromising our flexibility. The key to me is landing that first superstar by trade so we can recruit the other two parts of our Big 3 via free agency the following summer.

          • John M.

            John M. 5:35 PM on March 24, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Seems to me our chances of trading for George depend a lot on how much of a gambler Bird his. He’s already tested the market and pulled his chips off the table; he may wait until someone makes him an offer he can’t refuse. Or, he may make George happy and keep him. If I were him, that would be my priority. PG’s not exactly Boogie…

      • LakerTom (Publisher) 5:13 PM on March 24, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        If we draft Lonzo, then we trade Russell, Clarkson, Nance, and the Houston pick. If that is not enough, then substitute Ingram or Randle for Clarkson or Nance. That leaves us with Ball, Ingram or Randle, Clarkson or Nance, PG, Zubac, and cap space for Westbrook and Cousins.

        If we get pick but Lonzo is gone, then we keep Russell and trade the player we pick top-3, Clarkson, Nance, and the Houston pick. If that is not enough, then substitute Ingram or Randle for Clarkson or Nance. That leaves us with Russell, Ingram or Randle, Clarkson or Nance, PG, Zubac, and cap space for Westbrook and Cousins.

        If we lose the pick, then it gets tougher. We keep Russell and trade Ingram or Randle, Clarkson, Nance, and the Houston pick, If that is not enough, then we wait for summer of 2018. That leaves us with Russell, Ingram Randle, Clarkson, Zubac, and the player from the Houston pick, unless we package that to get rid of Deng or Mozgov.

        If we feel we have to get PG, we could keep Russell and give up Ingram, Randle, Clarkson, Nance, and the Houston pick. That would leave us with Russell, PG, Zubac, and cap space for Westbrook and Cousins, at which point the cupboard gets a little skimpy.

        Bottom line, we need to keep the pick, which is why tanking to hold onto those 55.8% odds of keeping our pick are so important. Still wish there was a way to expand the protection. I would give the Sixers Clarkson for free if we could legally do that.

        But whether we keep the pick or not, I think we need to trace for Paul George this summer. Hopefully, PG will hold his current position of not signing long-term with any teams but Pacers or Lakers. That will hopefully give us the leverage to close a fair deal.

        • MongoSlade

          MongoSlade 5:39 PM on March 24, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          You look at what Bird turned down from Philly and realize that what you’re proposing ain’t enough. Clarkson & Nance & that HOU pick ain’t moving the needle

          • John M.

            John M. 5:47 PM on March 24, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Someone’s going to have to offer a deal this summer that will make the Pacers better regardless of what Bird can do to make PG stay. Otherwise he tries to keep him and then see how it plays out. At least that’s my guess…

          • MongoSlade

            MongoSlade 5:50 PM on March 24, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            And Philly was giving all that with no guarantee PG would stay past 2018. And Bird turned it down.

            • John M.

              John M. 5:56 PM on March 24, 2017 Permalink

              Which means Larry would expect the Lakers to offer significantly more since PG would like the deal. Ouch.

          • LakerTom (Publisher) 6:52 PM on March 24, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            I disagree. What did Philly offer for Paul George that was more than the Lakers could offer? Okafor, Noel, Covington, and two firsts rounders. That’s a great haul? lol. The Sixers been trying to trade Okafor all year with no takers. Randle has more upside and value than Okafor.

            And what did they get for Noel? Basically Justin Anderson, who is a good young role player (Larry Nance) and very protected first rounder. Now I like Noel but they didn’t get much value because of the rent-a-player possibility. Same as PG situation but without his desire to be a Laker scaring off some teams. Clarkson or Nance have same value.

            As for the 2 picks, depends how protected they were and whether Embiid can stay healthy. The Sixers do now have a dynamite young trio in Embiid, Saric, and Simmons. I don’t see their offer even close to the Lakers possibly giving up Russell, Randle, Clarkson, and Nance for PG. Russell or Ingram both have a greater trade value than Okafor or Noel.

            In midseason, Bird was also still hoping to make a trade himself to improve the team to lure Paul to stay. Plus he knew he had until summer and maybe Paul would have a great second half and earn that big raise for being on an All-NBA team. Summer is his last shot to score something or end up with nothing when PG leaves as a free agent.

            The Lakers are in the drivers seat to make a fair deal for PG this summer. There will be competition, but this is an important first step for Magic and company. He will overpay if he has too but we have a lot of chips and need a score to break the ice.

            Don’t undervalue our young players. As a group they have great promise offensively despite questionable promise defensively. Some will stay, some will go, but on the whole, the Lakers have one of the top 3 or 4 young groups of talent. They are actually a well balanced set of trading chips.Like you always note, however, they just don’t have that one alpha player they need to be the best young team. Maybe that will change this draft.

            • MongoSlade

              MongoSlade 7:06 PM on March 24, 2017 Permalink

              But what you fail to acknowledge is that Bird turned it down. So it’s gonna take MORE than the Philly offer.

            • LakerTom (Publisher) 7:19 PM on March 24, 2017 Permalink

              It could take more but it could also take less. Depends on what happens. Does PG make an all-NBA team? Will his agent continue to say he won’t re-sign any team but the Lakers? Will the Lakers keep their pick and have another trading chip? Which of the Lakers young guns are going to increase their value the rest of the year?

              Larry had lots of reasons for not taking the Philly deal. For one, he wasn’t getting fair value for PG. Second, he hoped the situation in summer would be better. If it is, we’ll have to over pay. If it isn’t, which is very possible, then we might get a fair deal. Either way, I can’t see us waiting. This or a similar deal are the only way we can score big this summer. We save that money for summer of 2018.

              We actually see the same thing just through different lenses.

        • DJ2KB24

          DJ2KB24 6:00 PM on March 24, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Call Bird’s bluff! I’d Let Randle go and Clarky or Russ and our late 1st pick.

          • MongoSlade

            MongoSlade 6:03 PM on March 24, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            He woulda took Philly’s deal if that’s all he wanted.

            • LakerTom (Publisher) 10:27 AM on March 25, 2017 Permalink

              It’s not what Bird wants that matters. He may very well get less for waiting. It’s what teams are willing to give him for PG as a possible rental. Teams will be hesitant to pay full value just like they were with Noel and Cousins. Especially if PG continues to say he is not going to re-sign with any team but Lakers.

            • MongoSlade

              MongoSlade 12:45 PM on March 25, 2017 Permalink

              It’s both sides of the equation.
              Philly had already shown how much they’re willing to give up for the possible rental…

  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 2:30 PM on March 24, 2017 Permalink  

    You all see what you think about the Fox kid on UK tonight.

     
    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 2:41 PM on March 24, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Doubt he’ll be on our radar with a top 3 pick.
      If we slide to #3 Josh Jackson might be the guy. I’d be happy with that.

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