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  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 7:59 PM on July 17, 2017 Permalink  

    Kinda like to see that Thomas kid get a shot. Seems to make a lot of em!

     
    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 9:28 PM on July 17, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Me too, has a nice shot and plays hard. Nothing ridiculous, but solid. We’ll see if he gets a camp invite. Not too many open roster spots when you get down to it.

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 9:53 AM on July 18, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Bryant would have been signed but his agent wants a bigger and longer deal. Lakers are looking to sign him to a regular deal, not a two-way. They’re just negotiating tough but Thomas will take one of those 3 remaining regular roster spots.

      The Lakers really like Thomas and believe he can play the 4 or 5. He is not very athletic but he is very long and has good quick feet that let him stay with smaller quicker players. And he can shoot the rock from deep. I read a ranking of summer league players where he came in #10. Lonzo was #1 and Kuzma was #7.

  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 2:39 PM on July 17, 2017 Permalink  

    No need to mess with Lonzo, see what these other guys do without him. I hope we don’t take minutes away from Clarky, Randle, Nance, Kuzma, etc. for old guys to shoot on the wings that are not in future plans. With Ball, this may be the year to finalize how good Nance, Randle, Clarky and Zuby can be, or not.

     
    • mud

      mud 3:22 PM on July 17, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      i hope they do whatever it takes to win games next year, 20, 30, 40, 50 wins, whatever…

    • keen observer

      keen observer 4:39 PM on July 17, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      My hope is that Lonzo makes them all look so good that they have solid trade options at the deadline which gets Deng off the books and clears the cap space they want for two max deals in 2018. That way, at least Plan A becomes an option, whether or not they (quickly) have to default to Plan B.

    • Magicman (Editor)

      Magicman (Editor) 5:46 PM on July 17, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Even though this is a performance based profession…what’s most glowing and makes me harken back to Magic and Showtime…is Magic and Luke building a culture where you have to get over yourself and remember it’s about the Lakers, it’s no longer about you.

      Very pleased about that.

      • DJ2KB24

        DJ2KB24 5:58 PM on July 17, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Yes! And mostly about us bloggers too, lol, lol!! : )

      • MongoSlade

        MongoSlade 6:03 PM on July 17, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        1st time since Phil left that there seems to be a plan or forethought in place. The crazy part is that it’s come together in a matter of months, not years. What da hell have we been doing the last 4 years?

        • mud

          mud 6:07 PM on July 17, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          watching games…

        • mclyne32 (Director) 6:20 PM on July 17, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Watching an idiot completely destroy what his Father built up.

          • keen observer

            keen observer 6:44 PM on July 17, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Explain to everyone again what should have been done differently after the 2011 CBA and CP3 ordeal that would have kept us competitive?

            • MongoSlade

              MongoSlade 6:48 PM on July 17, 2017 Permalink

              Not hire Brown, Dantoni, & B.Scott to start with.

            • keen observer

              keen observer 6:57 PM on July 17, 2017 Permalink

              That would have made a huge difference. (Rolls eyes)

            • MongoSlade

              MongoSlade 7:05 PM on July 17, 2017 Permalink

              My mistake. …those were great hires

            • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

              Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 7:45 PM on July 17, 2017 Permalink

              It’s more that they couldn’t decide whether to ride out Kobe’s Golden years with teams custom built around his skill set/personality/gravitas, and having a coach in place who understood that (in my opinion Brian Shaw post-Phil was the obvious choice and any other was inviting disaster. I say this with the benefit of hindsight in regards to Shaw’s actual coaching career) or moving on from Kobe…while he was still on the team and getting massive contracts.

              The injuries just made certain what was always unlikely. But silly ideas of pairing Kobe with another ball-dominant player was to ignore the obvious, to actually ignore a situation that they helped enable. Why pair Kobe with any other player that needs the ball a lot? It makes no sense, and never has. Not CP3, not Nash. It’s no mystery to me why Kobe loved Derek Fisher: played defense, was a good spot up shooter, clutch when Kobe needed a bail out. Some other glory hound would just play the young Kobe role to what became his Shaq role, by the end. Big dog gotta eat.

              Anyhow, it’s all over and done now. Some folks will see reason where others see folly. S’always been that way, no need for that to go changing. Wish them both, and the many Laker staffers that followed them, my best.

            • keen observer

              keen observer 8:20 PM on July 17, 2017 Permalink

              There isn’t ONE scenario that anyone can paint that would have put us in a better position today for the future. Since 2011, the BEST we could have hoped for was mediocrity, but Lakers fans can never accept that reality.

            • MongoSlade

              MongoSlade 8:50 PM on July 17, 2017 Permalink

              I can easily think of about 5 but it’s all neither here nor there. The perpetrators have been unceremoniously swept out the door and a coupla their most egregious errors along with em. Onwards & upwards. …

            • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

              Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 9:48 PM on July 17, 2017 Permalink

              Well, you’re right in that the reality was/is mediocrity, I do accept that it is how it is and shall always be ‘that way’. But to say no other choice made along the timeline of the last 7 years would result in no other reality is ridiculous. At the very least the notion that had they simply kept the 2011 band together and rolled with Brian Shaw for 2-3 years has merit in that they would be a playoff threat and one hard roll away from a decent playoff showing. That’s pretty much what the Spurs did.

              I would urge you to go back and watch your Star Trek the Next Generation series finale episodes to get a better sense of temporal possibilities. But we are where we are and it is what it is. Every night the same thing happens: game comes on and I root for them to succeed as a team.

            • tate793

              tate793 1:27 AM on July 18, 2017 Permalink

              If the idiotic Busboy had kept his trap shut, and the CP3 trade gone through, things woulda been different. Dwight would have probably still been brought in to team up with Kobe and Chris. A few more O’Briens.

              Also, if the nitwit hadn’t fired the support staff, in his attempt at purging everything Phil, we would have been warned by Alex against signig Nash. And, there woulda been no D’Antoni.

            • keen observer

              keen observer 10:33 AM on July 18, 2017 Permalink

              All you guys are dreamers. You completely ignore the reality of the 2011 CBA and the CP3 ordeal. Once Stern nixed that deal and LO was shipped off to Dallas and Pau was unhappy, I knew immediately that the CBA would constrain us (as it was designed to do) and that our future was uncertain. LeBron was just getting better, the Spurs were still there and the Warriors emerged.

              If we had embarked on a path to rebuild quickly, it would have required disposing of Kobe (you guys would have thrown a sh!t fit, although that contract possibly hurt), Pau (we tried) and Bynum (we did) for decent assets as we really didn’t have anything else worth a sh!t, and doing what Danny Ainge did. But then we gave it a shot with Nash and Howard which was universally praised at the time, but the injury bug killed us regardless of who was coaching. Signing above average free agents to multi year deals would likely have backfired.

              So if you walk the whole thing back, we wound up with three #2 picks and Randle. The stupid moves were Kobe’s contract (which I don’t think made much of a difference anyway), and signing Deng and Mozgov to those panic deals. Any of your scenarios would have resulted in less future talent.

              JVG was talking about you guys during the game last night. I was grinning from ear to ear. He was right. So lay out your scenarios, Mongo, because ALL of them would have failed.

        • Magicman (Editor)

          Magicman (Editor) 6:47 PM on July 17, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Constraints aside, personalities matter. I know some folks think they don’t. They do.

          • MongoSlade

            MongoSlade 6:52 PM on July 17, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            I questioned Magic’s inexperience in the beginning and while he hasn’t been perfect (who is?) his force of will seems to have transformed & energized the entire organization in a very short amount of time. That’s not an easy feat to accomplish.

            • Magicman (Editor)

              Magicman (Editor) 6:53 PM on July 17, 2017 Permalink

              Agreed, MS.

            • therealhtj

              therealhtj 6:57 PM on July 17, 2017 Permalink

              True story

            • DJ2KB24

              DJ2KB24 7:10 PM on July 17, 2017 Permalink

              Dantoni was wrong hire for the team he was getting. The Moz and Deng signings were the last straw, so-to-speak.

            • therealhtj

              therealhtj 7:12 PM on July 17, 2017 Permalink

              Dantoni broke Kobe. His inability to get him to play a reasonable number of minutes brought his career to a halt.

            • keen observer

              keen observer 7:20 PM on July 17, 2017 Permalink

              Why everyone has amnesia about the injuries that year cracks me up. Blame the reigning COY for everything. You guys are something else.

            • Magicman (Editor)

              Magicman (Editor) 8:22 PM on July 17, 2017 Permalink

              It exploded for sure under that undue unnecessary minutes. Smdh.

            • keen observer

              keen observer 10:42 AM on July 18, 2017 Permalink

              Well you are in the medical field, Sean, so you would know. :)

  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 8:19 PM on July 16, 2017 Permalink  

    Judgest you and me on the Yankee Train LT! He got robbed tonight, ugh. You are no gonna win with your 3rd baseman hitting .250 with only 4 HR’s and your 1st baseman hittinh 10 HR’s and .200. Monte Hall says, “Let’s make a deal!”

     
  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 2:01 PM on July 16, 2017 Permalink  

    No on Thomas and/or Wear? For sure I would like to see Blue get a real shake.

    Yes: Kuzma, Ball, Blue and room for Caruso?

     
    • mud

      mud 2:14 PM on July 16, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Caruso already has a contract.
      the rest are fine as roster fillers, or not. actually, no on Wear. South Bay Lakers only.

    • tate793

      tate793 6:31 PM on July 16, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Need another big for insurance. Question marks re: Zubac.

  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 3:14 PM on July 15, 2017 Permalink  

    Wade? Too old, no thanks! DJordan, can’t shoot a lick, no thanks! PG, duh, YEAH! Cuz, perhaps? Westy, duh, YEAH! LBJ, ditto, YEAH!

     
  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 11:59 AM on July 15, 2017 Permalink  

    LT, tnx for always replying to my Yankee whining, lol!

     
  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 8:16 PM on July 14, 2017 Permalink  

    Hey LT, did you see Chapman blow the game with lousy pitching and errors, walks/ Coop waaaay over-matched. Time to fire Girardi, need a fresh face going forward. You know anything about Castro, Hicks, Bird?

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 10:19 PM on July 14, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Yes, terrible luck, poor defense, and failure to throw strikes. Sad game. At least Betances looked good and Gary came through. We’re still in in so only q game. Law of averages on these close games is going to change second half of the season. Has to.

  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 1:59 PM on July 14, 2017 Permalink  

    Very pleased with Ball, exception of shooting, but he is looking like something very special. Laker shooters, GET READY! Like Kuzma, and Caruso, Blue. Zuby gotta get quicker, tougher and jump higher!

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 2:24 PM on July 14, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      New first baseman for Yankees tonight in Boston.
      Let’s hope he breaks out like our other rookies.
      Injuries are just killing us this year.
      We still need better pitching all around.

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 2:29 PM on July 14, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I’m excited to see Lonzo playing with our other core players. How much better can he make KCP, Ingram, Randle, and Lopez? Brewer could be another deep threat for Lonzo to look for in transition. Nothing like a couple of easy buckets for each of those guys every night. Lakers will need to have players step up and make those open shots because we don’t have guys like Russell, Young, and Williams who can get their own shots any time. Hopefully, Ingram will develop that ability. Right now, Jordan Clarkson might be our best at creating his own shot.

      I think the Lakers might still have another move in mind to get a scorer for the bench ala Lou Williams. If they can do that AND move Deng’s contract, they will not hesitate. I liked the Utah trade proposed below where we traded Randle and Deng for Joe Johnson and Favors. By trade or free agency, the Lakers still need to find a backup point guard and instant offense type of scorer for the bench. Nor would it hurt to find a backup center as insurance if Zubac continues to struggle or if Lopez gets injured. I don’t think Zubac is close to being ready to start.

    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 4:47 PM on July 14, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Me too Deej!

  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 5:03 PM on July 13, 2017 Permalink  

    Lonzo passing out to 3’s like Kobe did. Dif is Ingy, Clarky, Kentavius, etc. better freaking hit em! Surround Lonzo with great 3pt shooters!

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 5:33 PM on July 13, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      This is where Brook Lopez is so important. It’s what makes the Russell trade work. We can upgrade Russell’s playmaking with Lonzo’s and his 3-point shooting with KCP’s but the big plus we get besides dumping Mozgov’s contract is the best stretch 4 in the game in Brook Lopez.

      Lopez is important to both Lonzo’s and Randle’s development. His ability to stretch the floor is going to open up driving lanes and erase rim protectors that Lakers players like Lonzo and Julius need. It’s why I changed my opinion of the value of the Russell trade.

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 5:52 PM on July 13, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      It was good to see him attacking the rim. One of my biggest pet peeves is guys getting to the rim for an open look then giving it up for a 3pt attempt. Happens way too often all over the league

  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 8:03 PM on July 8, 2017 Permalink  

    My take is that Ball will make everyone else way better with his vision. We have to get everyone on his pace. We are gonna need 3pt shooters, cause he will set you up. I did notice that Hart had a couple open 3 looks, but pumped-fake and lost the chance. Zuzu’s Pettles played very well and shot well. Tatum is a fine player-scorer, but Ball fits Magic’s plan better. My only question is how on earth did Ball’s father not address that weird shot?

     
    • Magicman (Editor)

      Magicman (Editor) 8:22 PM on July 8, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I agree, it’s unorthodox, but so is Marc Gasol and so was Shawn Marion, but they made it work!

      K-Mart had a weird shot.

      Form ain’t everything. I’m looking st you Rudy Gay. :) hahahaha

      • DJ2KB24

        DJ2KB24 8:31 PM on July 8, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Hope he gets the hang of it (shooting and making), but it is his secondary role. But, ya gotta shoot better than Rondo or they will sag from him out high.

        • Magicman (Editor)

          Magicman (Editor) 8:48 PM on July 8, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          He can penetrate we haven’t had a PG who could do that in a Coon’s age. D**n!

          • mclyne32 (Director) 9:22 PM on July 8, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Lol!

          • MongoSlade

            MongoSlade 10:24 PM on July 8, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Gonna get hard for him to penetrate if that jumper isn’t respected once the real games begin.

            • mud

              mud 10:01 AM on July 9, 2017 Permalink

              his jumper will fall, eventually.
              hopefully, by the start of the season…

      • GDUBinDC

        GDUBinDC 12:17 PM on July 9, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I’m not overly concerned with his shooting mechanics right now, I think he just has to figure out where he’s most comfortable shooting from on the floor and gain some confidence by consistently knocking some down.

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 10:28 PM on July 8, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      The thing about his jumper is that he was always playing against older, bigger kids since he first got on the court and that motion was the only way he could get it to the rim. When you look at his shot, it very much looks like a young kid shooting. Kinda late to overhaul it now…

  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 3:32 PM on July 8, 2017 Permalink  

    Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay early, but hope we didn’t mess up by passing on Foxy?

     
    • Magicman (Editor)

      Magicman (Editor) 3:44 PM on July 8, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      In this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes.

      -Benjamin Franklin

    • Magic Phil

      Magic Phil 4:00 PM on July 8, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I did watch the 1st half of the SAC game right after our game yesterday and Foxy didn’t look very good either but he was more vocal with team-mates

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 4:03 PM on July 8, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      How about Clint Frazier, DJ?
      We’re still a year too early but the future is bright!

      • DJ2KB24

        DJ2KB24 4:17 PM on July 8, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Gotta luv it! Keep the rookies up and playing. Sit Headless and Romaine Lettuce. Lol

        Come on Baller, tonite is your good stankin nite!!!

  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 5:13 PM on July 4, 2017 Permalink  

    Not to say I told you all so, but Hayward IS going to Celts for Stevens.

     
  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 1:55 PM on July 3, 2017 Permalink  

    Why are we giving up on the kids we used to adore, Nance, Clarky, Zubby, Randle, etc. now? Are we just going to ist the greatest thing since sliced bread, Ball? Magic would be the Best Teacher for him and PT.

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 2:00 PM on July 3, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Because we can only keep a few of them if we want cap space to sign two max contract players. The keepers right now are Ball, Ingram, and Zubac. That means that ultimately, we will move Randle, Clarkson, and maybe Nance, Jr. Just what happens with youngsters you draft when rebuilding.

      • Magicman (Editor)

        Magicman (Editor) 2:03 PM on July 3, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Tom, there’s been no mention of Larry in rumours. Earv again, mentioned Larry getting Lobs from Zo in the presser.

        • mclyne32 (Director) 2:22 PM on July 3, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          I think Larry’s a keeper unless some team wants him in a package that nets us a top tier talent.

          • Magicman (Editor)

            Magicman (Editor) 2:26 PM on July 3, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            No Superstars on the market anymore.

            • mclyne32 (Director) 2:28 PM on July 3, 2017 Permalink

              I meant in the future. :)

    • Magicman (Editor)

      Magicman (Editor) 2:01 PM on July 3, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Things happen fast on the Court DJ…Earv must think Lonzo can learn on the fly but the brain can only process so much info. Helps having Fresh Eyes, my friend. Trust in the Vision.

    • John M.

      John M. 2:05 PM on July 3, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      It’s just chatter. Magic’s happy with the current bunch.

    • CSTracy10

      CSTracy10 2:10 PM on July 3, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      What did I miss?

    • mclyne32 (Director) 2:20 PM on July 3, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Deej.
      Although we were bad enough to draft young talent, only a few have shown that they can become good two way players. Couple this with the unprecedentedly bad contracts of Deng and Moz and change becomes inevitable.
      More importantly, when there is a real possibility of signing TWO top tier players, you do everything in your power to make it a reality.
      It is extremely unlikely that more than one of these guys (DAR, Ingram, Clarkson, Randle, Jr. Zu) come close to reaching the potential of a PG, Westbrook, or Cousins.
      It’s not like any of them showed up day one and balled out like Damian Lillard.

      • DJ2KB24

        DJ2KB24 2:21 PM on July 3, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Gotcha guys. My math isn’t so good lately, lol!

        • Michael H (Editor)

          Michael H (Editor) 2:36 PM on July 3, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          This is a see what we have year. I would very surprised if we moved anyone before at least the trade deadline. Magic has mentioned Larry and Randle. I think they are going to see how all of our young guys have developed. If any of the kids have a break out year it could influence their decisions going forward.

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 6:54 PM on July 3, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      The “Baby Big 3” never really turned out to be a thing.
      New regime, new outlook…Lonzo & Ingram are now the focus and JC & Ju are kinda old news. Maybe they show something more this season now that they’ve seen what happened to the previous “face of the franchise” to make themselve more relevant.

  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 12:00 PM on June 26, 2017 Permalink  

    Deng for Rubio. Not sure why so many are down on Clarky? Gives a lot off the bench.

     
    • John M.

      John M. 12:05 PM on June 26, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I like Jordan a lot, and I don’t think folks are down on him; they’re just looking at assets to make the PG thing work. And Deng for Rubio would be sweet, and might work, considering Thibs likes him.

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 12:50 PM on June 26, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Deng gonna run the point?
      They just traded away their pg of the future Kris Dunn
      Plus..Rubio doesn’t clear the cap space for 2018.

      • therealhtj

        therealhtj 12:55 PM on June 26, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I’d do it. He’s a lot more moveable than Deng. Thibs ain’t a moron though.

      • DJ2KB24

        DJ2KB24 2:08 PM on June 26, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        They are shopping Rubio. Just thought the presence of Deng for Thibs would be a blessing for their team…..???? LOLOLOLO!

        • Magicman (Editor)

          Magicman (Editor) 2:10 PM on June 26, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Except the Wolves have to pay Wiggins next fall, Deej. Those 3 would take up 50% of their cap space.

    • keen observer

      keen observer 12:56 PM on June 26, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Like everyone else, they are looking for shooters.

      • John M.

        John M. 1:14 PM on June 26, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I remember Mitch saying it was easy to find shooters, and it’s the complementary skills that are hard to come by. You know, like defense. Guess that’s why the Dubs are so good.

        • Magicman (Editor)

          Magicman (Editor) 1:28 PM on June 26, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Says the guy who signed Troy Murphy. Lol.

          • keen observer

            keen observer 2:20 PM on June 26, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            They also signed Jason Kapono. So easy to find shooters! :)

            • Magicman (Editor)

              Magicman (Editor) 3:48 PM on June 26, 2017 Permalink

              Lol.

  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 7:37 PM on June 25, 2017 Permalink  

    Aside from money, which PG ain’t broke and won’t be wherever he goes. Let me say that Cleve and Indy are not nice (unless you like ice-cold) during the season. Los Ang is VERY NICE all the time! Been to all 3, I’ll take Los Ang!

     
    • Seely_Iggy (Director)

      Seely_Iggy (Director) 9:13 PM on June 25, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I agree DJ, LA has the best weather and I’m comparing it to different parts of the world. Love LA’s weather.

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