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  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 12:38 PM on March 25, 2017 Permalink |  

    Not an I told you so, but I told you all that the Fox kid is really good. You can have Ball, I want Fox. I’m proud of the kids for last nite, Wow, me, of all peeps, would like to keep most of the kids, especially, Russ, Clarky, Zubby and Ingy. I would let Nance and Randle go. If we can’t signa Freebie, then, yes, me of all peeps, wait until next year and then sign and shine and wheel and deal.

    PS-I also said that of the 5 winables, this was one of those and we won. The remaining three are Minny (H) and Sac (H) and NO (H). Phoen has three winables as well left. Buy we are better than they are, so?

     
    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 12:48 PM on March 25, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Nobody’s taking Fox top 3.
      Even with that impressive performance most of the talk today is still about Lonzo….lol

      • DJ2KB24

        DJ2KB24 12:49 PM on March 25, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Lozo can’t shoot. Fox has an overall better game.

        MS, you West coast? I’m Indyland and see Fox alot. I don’t get to see Ball much. Seems like he has a Larry Nance shot, ugh.

        • CSTracy10

          CSTracy10 1:59 PM on March 25, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          I was impressed with Fox, I think he could be a Derek Rose/Rondo Hybrid (meaning he is athletic and long, might be a good defender and will be able to get to the rack but wayyy to early to KNOW, and it was 1 game)

          Also, Lonzo CAN shoot. Look at his season numbers, 1 bad game does not tarnish the other 30

      • MongoSlade

        MongoSlade 1:07 PM on March 25, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Just browsing the mock drafts…Fox would have to make an astronomical leap to land in the top 3. 1 bad game from Lonzo isn’t gonna drop him outta the top 3.

        • John M.

          John M. 1:14 PM on March 25, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          I’m not holding my breath for the next 19-year-old phenom to sweep us into the playoffs.

        • MongoSlade

          MongoSlade 1:19 PM on March 25, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Who’s making that claim? You got 3 ways to add talent to the roster….might as utilize all the available avenues….

          • John M.

            John M. 1:29 PM on March 25, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            I just meant as young as we already are, it’s gonna be awhile no matter who we may draft. We’ve got half a dozen guys now who need more time, so I look at whoever comes as just another puzzle piece. We all know it’s a crapshoot when we’re putting together fantasy trades for someone like PG, who went #10.

            • DJ2KB24

              DJ2KB24 2:09 PM on March 25, 2017 Permalink

              Just fun to be GM, lol! I like it!

            • John M.

              John M. 2:23 PM on March 25, 2017 Permalink

              Yeah, much better to play than be a real GM and have guys like us watchin’ your every move…

  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 4:17 PM on March 24, 2017 Permalink |  

    Magic-Don’t give away the farm for PG. Randle and our late first rounder. George is gonna walk anyway. Go after Hayward! We need a couple and I would like to keep Ingy and Zubby plus our (?) first high pick, Clarky or Russ. By the way, which way is the wind blowing, lol!

     
    • mclyne32 (Director) 4:44 PM on March 24, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Randle and our top 3 pick wouldn’t get it done, Deej.
      He’s going to demand our Top 3, plus, Ingram, plus others for PG.
      Hayward ain’t coming.
      We have a chance with PG- we NEED to take it. He’s good enough to attract other great players.

      • John M.

        John M. 5:01 PM on March 24, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        But not good enough for other great players to go to Indiana…guess Hollywood’s still got it!

        • LakerTom (Publisher) 5:27 PM on March 24, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          A little magic goes a long way, too, John. I do think there will be a much more receptive vibe from free agents going forward. Magic and Rob present a more promising and positive future for the franchise and players will see that. Next year will be a start but I think the smart move will be to save our money for summer of 2018 and even increase it by working deals to get rid of Deng and Mozgov this summer plus upgrading the roster without compromising our flexibility. The key to me is landing that first superstar by trade so we can recruit the other two parts of our Big 3 via free agency the following summer.

          • John M.

            John M. 5:35 PM on March 24, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Seems to me our chances of trading for George depend a lot on how much of a gambler Bird his. He’s already tested the market and pulled his chips off the table; he may wait until someone makes him an offer he can’t refuse. Or, he may make George happy and keep him. If I were him, that would be my priority. PG’s not exactly Boogie…

      • LakerTom (Publisher) 5:13 PM on March 24, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        If we draft Lonzo, then we trade Russell, Clarkson, Nance, and the Houston pick. If that is not enough, then substitute Ingram or Randle for Clarkson or Nance. That leaves us with Ball, Ingram or Randle, Clarkson or Nance, PG, Zubac, and cap space for Westbrook and Cousins.

        If we get pick but Lonzo is gone, then we keep Russell and trade the player we pick top-3, Clarkson, Nance, and the Houston pick. If that is not enough, then substitute Ingram or Randle for Clarkson or Nance. That leaves us with Russell, Ingram or Randle, Clarkson or Nance, PG, Zubac, and cap space for Westbrook and Cousins.

        If we lose the pick, then it gets tougher. We keep Russell and trade Ingram or Randle, Clarkson, Nance, and the Houston pick, If that is not enough, then we wait for summer of 2018. That leaves us with Russell, Ingram Randle, Clarkson, Zubac, and the player from the Houston pick, unless we package that to get rid of Deng or Mozgov.

        If we feel we have to get PG, we could keep Russell and give up Ingram, Randle, Clarkson, Nance, and the Houston pick. That would leave us with Russell, PG, Zubac, and cap space for Westbrook and Cousins, at which point the cupboard gets a little skimpy.

        Bottom line, we need to keep the pick, which is why tanking to hold onto those 55.8% odds of keeping our pick are so important. Still wish there was a way to expand the protection. I would give the Sixers Clarkson for free if we could legally do that.

        But whether we keep the pick or not, I think we need to trace for Paul George this summer. Hopefully, PG will hold his current position of not signing long-term with any teams but Pacers or Lakers. That will hopefully give us the leverage to close a fair deal.

        • MongoSlade

          MongoSlade 5:39 PM on March 24, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          You look at what Bird turned down from Philly and realize that what you’re proposing ain’t enough. Clarkson & Nance & that HOU pick ain’t moving the needle

          • John M.

            John M. 5:47 PM on March 24, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Someone’s going to have to offer a deal this summer that will make the Pacers better regardless of what Bird can do to make PG stay. Otherwise he tries to keep him and then see how it plays out. At least that’s my guess…

          • MongoSlade

            MongoSlade 5:50 PM on March 24, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            And Philly was giving all that with no guarantee PG would stay past 2018. And Bird turned it down.

            • John M.

              John M. 5:56 PM on March 24, 2017 Permalink

              Which means Larry would expect the Lakers to offer significantly more since PG would like the deal. Ouch.

          • LakerTom (Publisher) 6:52 PM on March 24, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            I disagree. What did Philly offer for Paul George that was more than the Lakers could offer? Okafor, Noel, Covington, and two firsts rounders. That’s a great haul? lol. The Sixers been trying to trade Okafor all year with no takers. Randle has more upside and value than Okafor.

            And what did they get for Noel? Basically Justin Anderson, who is a good young role player (Larry Nance) and very protected first rounder. Now I like Noel but they didn’t get much value because of the rent-a-player possibility. Same as PG situation but without his desire to be a Laker scaring off some teams. Clarkson or Nance have same value.

            As for the 2 picks, depends how protected they were and whether Embiid can stay healthy. The Sixers do now have a dynamite young trio in Embiid, Saric, and Simmons. I don’t see their offer even close to the Lakers possibly giving up Russell, Randle, Clarkson, and Nance for PG. Russell or Ingram both have a greater trade value than Okafor or Noel.

            In midseason, Bird was also still hoping to make a trade himself to improve the team to lure Paul to stay. Plus he knew he had until summer and maybe Paul would have a great second half and earn that big raise for being on an All-NBA team. Summer is his last shot to score something or end up with nothing when PG leaves as a free agent.

            The Lakers are in the drivers seat to make a fair deal for PG this summer. There will be competition, but this is an important first step for Magic and company. He will overpay if he has too but we have a lot of chips and need a score to break the ice.

            Don’t undervalue our young players. As a group they have great promise offensively despite questionable promise defensively. Some will stay, some will go, but on the whole, the Lakers have one of the top 3 or 4 young groups of talent. They are actually a well balanced set of trading chips.Like you always note, however, they just don’t have that one alpha player they need to be the best young team. Maybe that will change this draft.

            • MongoSlade

              MongoSlade 7:06 PM on March 24, 2017 Permalink

              But what you fail to acknowledge is that Bird turned it down. So it’s gonna take MORE than the Philly offer.

            • LakerTom (Publisher) 7:19 PM on March 24, 2017 Permalink

              It could take more but it could also take less. Depends on what happens. Does PG make an all-NBA team? Will his agent continue to say he won’t re-sign any team but the Lakers? Will the Lakers keep their pick and have another trading chip? Which of the Lakers young guns are going to increase their value the rest of the year?

              Larry had lots of reasons for not taking the Philly deal. For one, he wasn’t getting fair value for PG. Second, he hoped the situation in summer would be better. If it is, we’ll have to over pay. If it isn’t, which is very possible, then we might get a fair deal. Either way, I can’t see us waiting. This or a similar deal are the only way we can score big this summer. We save that money for summer of 2018.

              We actually see the same thing just through different lenses.

        • DJ2KB24

          DJ2KB24 6:00 PM on March 24, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Call Bird’s bluff! I’d Let Randle go and Clarky or Russ and our late 1st pick.

          • MongoSlade

            MongoSlade 6:03 PM on March 24, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            He woulda took Philly’s deal if that’s all he wanted.

            • LakerTom (Publisher) 10:27 AM on March 25, 2017 Permalink

              It’s not what Bird wants that matters. He may very well get less for waiting. It’s what teams are willing to give him for PG as a possible rental. Teams will be hesitant to pay full value just like they were with Noel and Cousins. Especially if PG continues to say he is not going to re-sign with any team but Lakers.

            • MongoSlade

              MongoSlade 12:45 PM on March 25, 2017 Permalink

              It’s both sides of the equation.
              Philly had already shown how much they’re willing to give up for the possible rental…

  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 2:30 PM on March 24, 2017 Permalink |  

    You all see what you think about the Fox kid on UK tonight.

     
    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 2:41 PM on March 24, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Doubt he’ll be on our radar with a top 3 pick.
      If we slide to #3 Josh Jackson might be the guy. I’d be happy with that.

  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 3:09 PM on March 23, 2017 Permalink |  

    Pic o the day

    My son with J-Dub (White Chocolate). Weird deal here because I saw J walking with C-Web out the hotel, but he had just shorn his hair and I didn’t recognize him! I told my son I messed up, I think that bald guy was J. We waited a bit and he and Chris walked back in with McDonalds bags! J then took the pic and signed for him1 We had got Chris earlier. What a thing, MCDONALDS for millionaires, ha, just goes to show?

     
  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 4:34 PM on March 20, 2017 Permalink |  

    Late to the party, just finishes the game. Really nice game from them kids. I’m not so sure I want to give up on Russ, Clarky or Ingy. Like Zuby too! I, of all of us, don’t like waiting, but hate to give away any kids for what we might get for free in a year. Those are kinda my 4 keepers. Nance and Randle perhaps…. As far as Ball or whoever, I place some faith in Magic and Luke knowing what we need in the draft. (Is Jerry around?)

     
    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 9:58 PM on March 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I’m not giving up on them until Magic and Rob do, but I will also not shy away from opinionating and such. Likely root for them to do well wherever they end up, just like Nick, Eddie, plenty of Lakers have moved on and I’ve rooted for them all. Except when they play us. Then they can have a good game but they need to end up on the losing side.

  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 12:50 PM on March 18, 2017 Permalink |  

    Like I said, the Mil game was a win-able. We have 4 more win-ables. We may not, but they are win-able. Home games against Minny (2) and Sac and New Orlins. Philly and Orlando put another game between us. Proud of the way our kids played last nite. We add a Super or 2 without giving away too much and we be right back in the hunt.

    PS-Did ya’ll think it was a bit odd that we basically didn’t play Zuby in the 4th Q. Might have won that one after all?

     
  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 3:24 PM on March 17, 2017 Permalink |  

    For the Tank info, just info. It looks like Orlando has 5 win-ables, Philly has 4 win-ables and Phoenix has 3 win-ables. I think we have 5 win-ables. So we’ll see how it all shakes out. Gonna be interesting.

     
    • John M.

      John M. 3:53 PM on March 17, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I don’t see 5 Ws. In fact, I think we could easily lose them all. Some might be close…

      • DJ2KB24

        DJ2KB24 4:01 PM on March 17, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        The 5 I am thinking are: Mil tonight, Min (H), Sac (H), Min (H) and Norlins (H). These are win-able if, if and if. Kinda depends on how Luke plays the guys.

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 4:00 PM on March 17, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      We got 5 games against the Nets?

      • DJ2KB24

        DJ2KB24 4:01 PM on March 17, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Lol!

      • John M.

        John M. 4:04 PM on March 17, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Even if we did, I still don’t see 5 Ws. These are spring preseason games now.

        • DJ2KB24

          DJ2KB24 4:12 PM on March 17, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Sure, I am just saying if we play our best kids at their best we could take any one or more of these. Like I said, if, if and if and even one more if. On a side note, would like to have gotten more for Lou Will, but…is what it is. Perhaps the best we could do.

  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 8:06 PM on March 14, 2017 Permalink  

    Jay Williams thinks the best NBA ready player in college is Duke’s Tatum. I’ve watched him and he’s pretty slick! Also like the Fox kid from Kentucky. You Westerners know more about Ball and such than I do.

     
    • DJ2KB24

      DJ2KB24 8:12 PM on March 14, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Looking at the Suns’ sched, they have 6 winnables. I think we have 4 to 5 winnables.

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 8:27 PM on March 14, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      This time of year alotta guys get elevated or devalued based on just a few widely seen games in the tournament. From what I’ve seen all season, Lonzo seems to be the pick for us.

      jmho

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 8:32 PM on March 14, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      “NBA Ready” doesn’t necessarily mean “Best Player”.

  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 4:31 PM on March 14, 2017 Permalink  

    One comment the other day from Reggie Miller to our shooters, is to (off season), make 1,000 3’s every day (some in the morning, afternoon and evening. Our guys may do that or not (Russ, Clarky). Hopefully they and Ingy will this summer.

     
    • p ang

      p ang 6:08 PM on March 14, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      What this team needs is an alpha. Shaq was the biggest meanest top dog there was. He still aint the alpha. Kobe and Wade were his alphas. Durant doesn’t get it yet, Curry is his alpha. Kareem had Magic.

      What the Lakers have is a bunch of betas. Skilled, athletic and strong but sill betas.

      Lakers need a Westbrook.

    • tate793

      tate793 8:21 PM on March 14, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Hayward and George are not alpha types. Boogie, maybe. Butler, probably. KAT, yes. Damian, definitely. Heck, for the money they shelled out for Deng and Moz, they coulda had a few more years of The Killer Kobe.

      • DJ2KB24

        DJ2KB24 8:38 PM on March 14, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        That’s what I’m thinking! Lol

      • p ang

        p ang 9:00 PM on March 14, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        my impossible dream has always been Dame and Boogie. add three betas and you have a team.

  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 3:07 PM on March 14, 2017 Permalink  

    I wonder if one of our (all of us) problems is we see each Laker player as the way we want them to be. I wobble back and forth on Russ, Nance, Black, Randle, etc. Some days I think Russ is gonna be great or look at that Randle power and work hard, he’s a keeper, Nance is so everywhere the ball is. I truly wonder how many NBA starters we really have? I know that many are so young, like Russ, Zub and Ingy, well almost all our guys. Then when I try to break down each, it’s like, Nance can’t shoot a lick and Randle is under sized as well as Black. Clarky can’t play “D” and he’s not alone in that. And on and on.

     
    • mud

      mud 4:46 PM on March 14, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      i can’t argue with what you’re saying, but none of them are performing as well as they can.
      obviously, this is not a completed product. not any any means…

      • tate793

        tate793 4:53 PM on March 14, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Both Kareem Abdul Jabar and Kobe stated that they were still learning, when they retired. It’s never a completed product. John Wooden said that when you stop learning, you stop growing, And when you stop growing, you will start to fail. As good as he was, Tim Duncan referred to himself as a “student of the game”. Popovich said that’s the reason why he was so good. Magic said that he would work up as much of a sweat during film sessions as he would on the court. Jerry West said that knowledge you don’t share dies with you. You live on, by passing it to someone.

        • mud

          mud 6:15 PM on March 14, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          no question. i was speaking to the product the team puts out vs the individual player. a “rebuild” indicates a “build” when completed.

          • tate793

            tate793 8:34 PM on March 14, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Gothca.

          • keen observer

            keen observer 8:42 PM on March 14, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            The reason that one and doners get drafted ahead of more polished players like Jordan Clarkson is strictly a matter of upside. Remember the debate about where 4 yr grad Shane Battier would be drafted even though it was pretty much the consensus that he was the best player in college that season? He went 6th behind Kwame Brown (HS), Tyson Chandler (HS), Pau (21 yr old Euro rookie big; ROY), Eddy Curry (HS) and Jason Richardson (2 and done). Other notables in that draft class were Joe Johnson #10 (2 and done), Richard Jefferson #13 (3 and done), Zach Randolph #19 (1 and done), Gerald Wallace #25 (1 and done), 19 yr old Tony Parker from France #28, Gilbert Arenas #30 (2 and done), and 23 year old Mehmet Okur from Turkey at #37.

            There were a few other decent rotation players in that draft (guys like Samuel Dalembert, Vladimir Radmanovic, Troy Murphy, the Collins twins, Brendan Haywood, Jamaal Tinsley, Trent Hassell, Brian Scalabrine, Earl Watson and Bobby Simmons, but that interesting crapshoot was a mixed bag indeed.

            The guy who rings the loudest for me is Z-Bo, a true 1 and doner. He figured it out in Year 3. Let’s hope Russell and Randle start to click next season, too, with Ingram and Zubac a year behind them.

            • tate793

              tate793 11:10 PM on March 14, 2017 Permalink

              Zubac appears to be ahead of all of them. Has a great finger on the pulse of his own identity and abilities. Has the most tools, and a great work ethic.

            • keen observer

              keen observer 9:56 AM on March 15, 2017 Permalink

              I agree, Mr. Tate.

  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 3:30 PM on March 11, 2017 Permalink  

    Been watching the college kids lately. Duke’s Tatum looks pretty good. Like the kid Fox on Kentucky.

     
  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 2:20 PM on March 10, 2017 Permalink  

    That was a tough win, especially over Phoenix. I know, the Tanker got derailed. We’ll win just enough games to place us 4th. What a totally wasted season if we lose our pick. I enjoyed the game, but we gotta lose man! : (

    You know we are gonna beat Philly and lose out to them. They are in a great spot, but then again, they always are until the season starts.

     
  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 3:31 PM on March 9, 2017 Permalink  

    Pic o the day. My son, just Dreamin away!

     
    • Magicman (Editor)

      Magicman (Editor) 3:34 PM on March 9, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      :)

      • DJ2KB24

        DJ2KB24 3:36 PM on March 9, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        TNX MM! Just seconds after I took the picture a security guy tapped me (not wire-tap, that’d be on Obama, lol) on the shoulder and said we shouldn’t do that. I said “Oh, okay.” Sheesh, wasn’t like I was in the picture. All worked out well though, tee, hee.

        • Magicman (Editor)

          Magicman (Editor) 3:41 PM on March 9, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Good one, Deej. Hahahahaha

          Yeah, some security guys are touchy. They tried to give us a hard time, when we were talking to Chuck last year at Gretzky’s Restaurant.

  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 7:13 PM on March 7, 2017 Permalink  

    Clarky is about it tonight.

     
  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 3:52 PM on March 6, 2017 Permalink  

    Kinda weird that Nikki was bringing us back last nite and I don’t think took another shot, Russ takin em all.

     
    • Magicman (Editor)

      Magicman (Editor) 3:58 PM on March 6, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Yeah, well. A lot of conspiracy theorists think “that’s the plan.”

      Despite the fact that, you know, they could actually just be inefficient.

      Takes all kinds. Lol.

      • DJ2KB24

        DJ2KB24 4:04 PM on March 6, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Hey MM, nobody is telling who is holding this team back this year, lol. We all know it was Kobe last year, but this year?? LOL!!

        • Magicman (Editor)

          Magicman (Editor) 4:37 PM on March 6, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          MSM in LA amd zlakers homers change the narrative when it suits them, Deej.

          Peeps are oversimplifying this Tanking stuff.

          We’re fundamentally bad. We’re bad Defensively, We’re a bottom 3rd Offensive team in Free Throws and Free Throw Percentage, so even when we get to the Line, we miss out on valuable points…PPS(not a stat I value at all), FG%

          And yet, we’re this secret illuminati tank performance art. Lol.

          We’re just bad. Not Michael Jackson bad. We’re more like Bad case of lovin’ you. :)

          • mclyne32 (Director) 5:53 PM on March 6, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            EXACTLY, Sean..
            Some of us never bought what the b.s. mill has been spinning for the past four years.
            Pure ineptitude has brought us here.
            Magic has his work cut out.

            • keen observer

              keen observer 7:10 PM on March 6, 2017 Permalink

              You will never get it, but that’s OK.

            • mclyne32 (Director) 9:55 AM on March 7, 2017 Permalink

              and you will never stop being a useless TROLL

        • MongoSlade

          MongoSlade 4:43 PM on March 6, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Bad play isn’t tanking…it’s just bad play.
          But trading your leading scorer and trying to spin it as something positive? Classic Stealth Tank move…lol

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