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  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 8:10 PM on December 16, 2017 Permalink |  

    MM-Where U B found?

     
  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 7:46 PM on December 14, 2017 Permalink |  

    MM, you out????

     
  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 4:36 PM on December 14, 2017 Permalink |  

    Last Laker winning season was 2012-13, when Kobe gave his last gasp to lead Lakers to PO’s. We got, perhaps a prayer to finish above .500 this year. Spurs last losing season was 1996/97. Yankees last losing season was 1992. So, yeah, think we should stay the course and we don’t need “no stinkin” LBJ or PG or Cuz or. Let’s stay the same stagnant franchise and resign extensions to KCP and Lopez. Well, that is if you are happy with losing. I am not sure where all this “dislike” business comes from about any Laker player. I had no ill will towards Ronnie Price, or Wayne Ellington, or Wes Johnson, or Timmy Moz, or Jodi Meeks, or Kent Baze, or DLO. Nothing against Nance or Randle, or Zub, or Lopez, or KCP, or LB, or Ingy and so on. Just have an idea on how we can win and what it takes. Ya’ll know the definition of…..Best to show LBJ what he’s missing if he doesn’t consider us next year or Cuz or PG or whoever.

     
    • mud

      mud 4:39 PM on December 14, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      it’s not your choice or mine or anyone else who participates here. who are you arguing with?
      no Lakers fans want the team to keep losing.

      who really cares what the other teams do? their situations are different, they deal with what they deal with and the Lakers deal with what they deal with, mistakes or not and all else. stop being jealous.

    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 5:47 PM on December 14, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I get your point DJ, treading water isn’t getting us any further upstream. Some folks give the old front office a major pass, some of the guys I would have rather us signed haven’t panned out (Kent Bazemore comes to mind) but the front office has been on a long losing streak when it comes to free agents they’ve pursued. So, regardless of the outcome, the front office wanted LaMarcus Aldridge. They let decent talent walk out the door for nothing (Howard and Gasol).

      Current front office is better at creating an air of more realistic expectations, although they now direct those expectation onto specific players…we all got things we need to work on. At any rate, I’m hopeful for this off-season. I think an improved defense and a max slot with players who are obviously finding their way int eh NBA will be enough to lure at least one player of import and we can always trade for one, although that guts a lot of the development work the team has put into these guys.

      Bottom line: the sooner we figure out how to win,l the more fun this all gets.

    • mud

      mud 7:07 PM on December 14, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      besides, out of those FA mentioned only LBJ takes a mediocre team into the realm of contender.

      you can’t have what you want right now.

      the Lakers aren’t embarrassing themselves if they are losers, at least.

    • keen observer

      keen observer 7:18 PM on December 14, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      zzzzzzzzzzzz

  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 8:17 PM on December 12, 2017 Permalink |  

    I ain’t real happy with Luke either. I guess he’ll learn at some point or “he gone!” Clarkson sits the last 9 minutes, that’s nuts. Ingy (luv him) should have been subbed for a bit more. Good job LB! Why is Lopez still getting minutes. He don’t fit.

     
    • Magicman (Editor)

      Magicman (Editor) 8:25 PM on December 12, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      He’s learning with a new group, DJ.

      3-5 players he uses a lot were in other situations last year

      Hard to work on schemes, game-within-the-game decisions. We as fans, need to give him time for this team.

      Luke is a coach, whose more feel, than scheme and poise right now, DJ. Would you agree?

      If so, then, he needs time to crock as a strategist to.

      • DJ2KB24

        DJ2KB24 8:30 PM on December 12, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Learning curve, yes, but Magic is in a hurry. Still has not changed the starters, why not, what we have to lose, a game, we lost.

        • Magicman (Editor)

          Magicman (Editor) 8:34 PM on December 12, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          That logic is correct what we have to lose, I agree.

          Magic said he wasn’t gonna be disappointed if we miss the playoffs. Neither should fans DJ.

          Summer is a long way away.

          Luke also doesn’t know who 3 of his starters are next year, either. My guess is he’s trying to find the right mix.

          He had Zo KCP Ingram Kuzma Randle in OT.

          • DJ2KB24

            DJ2KB24 8:38 PM on December 12, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Yep, just thought Clarky’s ability to score might have helped. Randle was a little bit out of control I thought hurt us some.

            • Magicman (Editor)

              Magicman (Editor) 8:41 PM on December 12, 2017 Permalink

              I agree with both of these statements

    • Worthy42

      Worthy42 4:22 AM on December 13, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      KCP should not be playing crunch time minutes -- he jacks up ill-advised threes and cannot hit them when needed. I would much rather have Clarkson in there at the end. God, I hope we don’t keep KCP past this year.

  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 3:45 PM on December 11, 2017 Permalink |  

    We need to win games to give hope to our kids. Any player that has been a Laker for 5 years has been used to constant losing. If we aren’t gonna win, then kids only!

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 5:26 PM on December 11, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      OK, DJ. I wasn’t going to tell you but it’s obvious that you need some comforting. Did you see how the Yankees ended up with Giancarlo Stanton for Starlin Castro and two mid-level prospects. Suddenly that young exciting Yankees team that everybody loved has become the Evil Empire again. In other words, the baseball world was back as it should be.

      Same thing is going to happen to the young exciting Lakers team everybody loves. LeBron James and DeMarcus Cousins are going to sign as free agents next year and the Lakers will return to their normal role as the NBA version of the Evil Empire and the basketball world will be back like it was.

      Then we can both spend our final years watching our two favorite teams rack up even more championships.
      :-)

  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 10:41 AM on December 10, 2017 Permalink |  

    I like playing the guys 26 and under on out Laker team. Brook has been too inconsistent with his overall play to warrant Randle only getting 25 or so minutes. I think KCP is viable, but not for $18M, yet.

    Randle
    Kuz
    Clarkson
    Ball
    KCP
    Ingy

    should be getting 32-38 per. Nance and Hart in the mid 20’s. Would like to see a bit more of Hart.

     
    • Magicman (Editor)

      Magicman (Editor) 10:49 AM on December 10, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      “(some) reporters only point out that Lonzo doesn’t play in the fourth. (sometimes) Brook doesn’t’ play in the fourth, KCP doesn’t play in the fourth, there’s lots of starters that don’t play in the fourth depending on how our group goes”-

  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 7:31 PM on December 9, 2017 Permalink |  

    And the answer is? Yes Luke, yes, you played the right guys to finish. IMHO

     
    • Magicman (Editor)

      Magicman (Editor) 7:49 PM on December 9, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Yup

    • Magicman (Editor)

      Magicman (Editor) 9:00 PM on December 9, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      “(some) reporters only point out that Lonzo doesn’t play in the fourth. (sometimes) Brook doesn’t’ play in the fourth, KCP doesn’t play in the fourth, there’s lots of starters that don’t play in the fourth depending on how our group goes”-

  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 12:06 PM on December 5, 2017 Permalink  

    Anyone care to explain what is the Laker plan? I must have been mistaken for my thoughts, because I thought we would keep most of our young players, dump Lopez and KCP for sure and add LBJ and/or Cuz and/or PG. Again, anyone explain the plan for 2018 summer?

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 1:11 PM on December 5, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      The plan hasn’t changed, DJ. Basically, the Lakers want to clear cap space to sign 2 max contract elite free agents, ideally LBJ and PG. To do that, they need $65M in open cap space. To create that much open cap space, the Lakers almost surely have to let Lopez and KCP walk and trade Randle and Clarkson before the midseason trade deadline for picks or expiring contracts or before free agency starts this summer for picks. It doesn’t appear they will be able to trade Deng, which means they will likely extend, waive, and stretch him per Eric Pincus.

      The risks are as follows:

      1. Trading Clarkson and Randle for cap space midseason only to discover that LBJ and PG (and Cousins) are staying put and won’t be free agents. The problem is waiting for summer raises the risk of not being able to clear the space needed. I am loath to trade Clarkson and Randle unless it was directly for PG, which is the situation the Lakers would likely prefer to happen as top priority. That would set them up to go after LBJ this summer with PG already locked up.

      2. Plan B-Z would kick in if LBJ, PG, and DC don’t become free agents. Backup plan could include resigning Lopez and KCP either for bargain LT deals or more expensive 1-year deals and kicking the can down the road to summer of 2019 and going after Klay Thompson and keeping and developing out kids, which we wouldn’t be able to do if we trade JC and JR midseason.

      The worst result is trading JC and JR and LBJ, PG, and DC not being available. That’s why you can only trade them for LBJ or PG midseason. Or Cousins, of course.

    • therealhtj

      therealhtj 2:06 PM on December 5, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Like many things, I could explain it, but I couldn’t make you understand it.

    • mud

      mud 4:40 PM on December 5, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      NOBODY here can explain the exact plan, because they are not the Lakers FO, or even the Lakers. this includes reporters. the team can say whatever they want. they are not required to tell you the plan, or even anything like the truth. i’ll bet the plan is pretty fluid and flexible, because there is a LOT that will happen between now and next season.

  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 3:13 PM on December 4, 2017 Permalink  

    Yep, terrible game for Clarky. After the quarter mark, my thought is we have 2 keepers that show real promise: Kuz and Ingy. You can give a pass to Ball and Hart, cuz they ain’t going anywhere. Randle, Clarky and Nance are very good 2nd unit players.Everyone else is expendable or too expensive to hold. Might as well play Deng. Not sure of our direction? We are playing some guys we aren’t keeping and not sure why we don’t give Zub and Bryant time (unless we know that both are Tarik Black)?

     
    • keen observer

      keen observer 7:37 PM on December 4, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      You’re almost as bad as therealhtj. Lonzo Ball will be a star in this league. Julius Randle has really stepped up his game. He’ll be a beast in 2 seasons, potentially an all-star. Jordan Clarkson has been pretty solid, playing worth the value of his contract. Going into the season, I don’t know wtf you expected with this young team, but one thing is consistent: utter impatience. Once bad game from youngsters Kuzma and/or Ingram and you’ll cross them off your list, too.

    • tate793

      tate793 11:57 PM on December 4, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Luke has a plethora of options at his disposal. It will take a while to explore the majority of rotational combinations. When you consider the different matchups, every game, there’s an ever-changing terrain. We’ve only played 23 games. Lotsa tinkering still to be done. Gonna be a real kick when we start experimenting with tall ball.

  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 10:54 AM on November 29, 2017 Permalink  

    Thinking we will go 4-11 over next 15 and be at 12-23 by end of year. Let’s stop comparing Lonzo to anyone. Let this kid breathe. Also, doesn’t matter what JR or JC do or how well they play and how lousy LB and LN play, The J’s are not breaking the starting line up?

     
    • mud

      mud 11:56 AM on November 29, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      that’s the thing.
      while LB may not be shooting well, he’s doing nearly everything else WELL.
      LN has played WELL.
      JC has scored well, but he’s been up and down in other skills. nobody is perfect, and his scoring is important to the bench.
      JR is filling a real need on the bench.

      starting is not a brownie pin. typically, a team starts it’s best players, but not always. Odom, Vinnie Johnson, Bill Walton, John Starks, Detlef Schrempf and many others have all been more than good enough to start, if fact, many times these guys were the best players on their team any given game.

      what is this? high school?

      • mud

        mud 11:57 AM on November 29, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        ….and the Lakers will likely be 12-23 by the end of the year no matter who starts.

  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 5:47 PM on November 28, 2017 Permalink  

    At some point these kids may get frustrated and delusioned with constant losing. These have had nothing but losing with the Lakers: Clarkson, Randle, Zubac, Ingram, Nance, and now, Ball, Hart and Kuz. We have had 4 straight terrible season and this could be another. And someone tell me Magic’s plan is not about grabbing 2 Superstars if at all possible. And history shows without a doubt that Superstar and Star laden teams have won the Chips or reached the Finals.

     
    • keen observer

      keen observer 6:10 PM on November 28, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Lumping the previous losing seasons since the 2011 CBA and CP3 ordeal screwed us with the here and now and future is ludicrous, but you can’t seem to help yourself.

      • DJ2KB24

        DJ2KB24 6:36 PM on November 28, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        You did not address Magic’s plan or the fact that Superstar teams win and others don’t. Start naming the team teams without Supers that have won a Chip in the past 30 years (Pistons 03-04 yes).

        • mud

          mud 9:51 PM on November 28, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          while it’s obviously best to have the most of the best players in the game to win a championship, just having stars doesn’t promise anything. for example, the 2005 Lakers. how about the 2010 Miami Heat, the 69 Lakers, 2016 Golden State Warriors…

          you’re correct, not many teams win without superstars, that’s for sure. there aren’t many 78-79 Supersonics, but who says where stars come from? we could be looking at them before the wrapping comes off, already…

          any idiot can see that getting a star now increases wins, but it doesn’t assure winning it all. you can’t just gut the team because some guy who likes to get souvenirs wants something done now. there are rules about how talent is acquired and so at least some of that talent needs to be home grown. i’d be way more upset if they tore up the team for a name and had nothing else to put around the name than if it took a while to gather talent. yeah, i don’t want to wait, but i don’t want to see the team in even worse shape either.

          the “point” of this year, as laid out by coaches and FO is to produce a culture of good ball. this will lead to wins, and it will also lead to stars, but it probably won’t be completed by next week. hold on….

          …or just skip what i wrote because you aren’t at least weighing the words before repeating that you don’t like waiting. i get it. i don’t like the wait either.

        • keen observer

          keen observer 10:24 AM on November 29, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          DJ, I take Magic’s plan with a grain of salt. Stuff like that is fluid, so I don’t take it seriously, nor do I like the plan. They are better off letting the kids mature, making a trade here and there and signing big names down the road. If they sign one this summer, I will be thrilled. Based on the current personnel, I hope that they sign either PG or Cousins, sign Randle to a long term deal, and worry about the rest later.

          I agree with you on the Superstar thing and even the 2004 Pistons had guys who became all-stars thereafter and who were underrated. Rasheed and Ben Wallace weren’t exactly chopped liver, nor were Rip, Chauncey and rookie Tayshaun. Larry Brown used them well. Lakers fans who think that we should have killed that team are quite misguided. They trounced us.

  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 3:12 PM on November 28, 2017 Permalink  

    Seannie! My keepers for next year (assuming we can get 2 of these Freebies: Cuz, PG, LBJ);

    Ingy
    Kuz
    Ball
    Clarkson
    Randle (if)
    Hart
    Nance

    Letting everyone else go, unless KCP turns out to be Lou Williams and will take less than we are paying now.

    Who you keeping under my hopes of 2 Freebies?

     
    • keen observer

      keen observer 3:48 PM on November 28, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Your keepers don’t get you to two freebies. What are you going to do with Luol Deng?

    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 4:01 PM on November 28, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Unless you’re of the opinion that your freebies are going to give us some kind of discount you’re about 20 mil over the cap.

      • DJ2KB24

        DJ2KB24 4:23 PM on November 28, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        ?? We gain nearly 40 Mil with Lopez and KCP contracts. I sort of get it, then if we have to give just 1 guy most of that, then we and Magic have been dreaming. And that’s possible as well, lol!

        • mud

          mud 4:35 PM on November 28, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          stop playing checkers when the team is playing chess…

          • keen observer

            keen observer 6:11 PM on November 28, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            You’re being kind to him, mud, especially with all the information available to all of us.

        • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

          Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 6:37 PM on November 28, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          We gain a shade over $40 mil, actually (BL: 22.6, KCP: 17.7 for 40.3 mil)

          NBA max contract is projected to start at $24.7 mil for 6 or fewer years of NBA service, $29.7 mil between 7-9 years of service and $34.6 for 10 or more. Even the lowest tier is a bit out of reach when KCP and Lopez’s deals are lost.

          Magic’s hoping to unload Deng for as little loss to the core players listed as possible, we’ll see where they end up in February.

          The bigger question is your (if) on Randle. He ties up a lot of invisible money this summer until he signs somewhere. If we want to keep Randle we absolutely have to trade Deng, which feels nigh-impossible, right now.

          • DJ2KB24

            DJ2KB24 6:39 PM on November 28, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Yes, Magic’s plan is too build with our young pre-stars and hoping for a way to grab 2 Supers.

    • Michael H (Editor)

      Michael H (Editor) 4:30 PM on November 28, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Lopez, KCP and Brewer frees up 47 mil. Stretch Deng, that’s another 10 mil. But Randle has a 12 mil cap hold. That leaves 45 mil. But don’t worry DJ. If we don’t win some games nobody is coming anyway.

      • DJ2KB24

        DJ2KB24 5:14 PM on November 28, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        According to Luke this year as was last, not about games won. If we can land 2 of the big 3, we don’t need Randle. That’s a chance he might be moved. Cavs ought to work a deal for Lou Will. I miss his scoring!

    • Magicman (Editor)

      Magicman (Editor) 4:40 PM on November 28, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Zo
      Hart
      Ingram
      Clarkson
      Kuzma
      2 of Nance and/or Brook and/or Randle might only keep one with cap and free agency.

      • mud

        mud 4:41 PM on November 28, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        or they just might keep em all!

        the situation is not static.

      • DJ2KB24

        DJ2KB24 5:16 PM on November 28, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I am with ya, but gotta have 2 of the big 3, if we are gonna contend sooner than maybe later. If no one comes, we’ll be lucky to do any PO work worth while for?????

        • mud

          mud 5:18 PM on November 28, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          for as long as it takes.
          even getting so-called superstars is no promise of anything.

          the team has talent. in the same way that the got much better on defense from last year, they can do the same with the rest of the game.

          • DJ2KB24

            DJ2KB24 5:30 PM on November 28, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Lol, pretty much Chips my friend. Of course unless you are the 2003-04 Pistons.

  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 5:05 PM on November 20, 2017 Permalink  

    “White Chocolate” and mah kid!

     
    • Magicman (Editor)

      Magicman (Editor) 5:47 PM on November 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Always a favourite till they put me in the oven.

      • DJ2KB24

        DJ2KB24 5:59 PM on November 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        : )

        • DJ2KB24

          DJ2KB24 6:03 PM on November 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          To all LA Bloggers, note. Regardless of what you think of Pink, you have to You Tube her performance at the Music Awards a day or so ago. Never have seen anything like this in my life and I’ve seen alot!

          • tate793

            tate793 7:42 PM on November 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Don’t like wannabes.

            • DJ2KB24

              DJ2KB24 7:53 PM on November 20, 2017 Permalink

              ?

          • Magicman (Editor)

            Magicman (Editor) 7:45 PM on November 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Was a wonderful performance DJ.

            As a First Responder, it was a touching tribute.

            • DJ2KB24

              DJ2KB24 7:54 PM on November 20, 2017 Permalink

              I am talking about the side of the Marriott performance with her dancers, that was just CRAZY unbelievable.

    • tate793

      tate793 7:43 PM on November 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      He was white, but there’s no chocolate there.

    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 8:18 PM on November 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Nice!

  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 7:01 PM on November 19, 2017 Permalink  

    MM, U stop bragging about that Canadian basketball team! U B A HOMER! Ha, ha, ha, ha!

    PS-And remember this state of our team is all Kobe’s fault! Ha, ha, ha, ha!

     
  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 7:06 AM on November 18, 2017 Permalink  

    Okay, I finally get it, we are tanking again, right? I thought we didn’t have a first rounder this summer though? Am thinking more about this being a Luke problem. Rotations seems to make no sense. Good thing he used the starters in the 4th, otherwise, we might have won the game. Why is it that Kuz is the Rookie of the Year and LB can barely play a lick? Nother losing season. I do think if we can lure PG to be our superstar and with a great coach, we could meld into a PO contender next year.

     
    • Magicman (Editor)

      Magicman (Editor) 9:59 AM on November 18, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      We’ll be okay, DJ.

      And Simmons is unanimously ROY

      • DJ2KB24

        DJ2KB24 12:08 PM on November 18, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I’m not ready to take Simmons over Kuz. Pundits might, but Kuz has shown, at least so far, he’s a real deal.

        • Magicman (Editor)

          Magicman (Editor) 12:26 PM on November 18, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          No one’s saying he’s not…Simmons is going to lead his team into the Playoffs. That makes it a wrap.

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