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  • CSTracy10

    CSTracy10 12:04 PM on March 31, 2017 Permalink  

    I am sure this has been asked and discuss, if so just point me in that direction, but what are the lottery consequences of the Lakers and Suns finishing with identical records?

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 12:16 PM on March 31, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      No coin flip. Both teams get the average number of ping pong balls for #2 and #3 seed So Lakers odds would be the average of 55.8% and 46.9% or 51.35% for each team.

      “In the event that teams finish with the same record, each tied team receives the average of the total number of combinations for the positions that they occupy. In 2007, the Minnesota Timberwolves and the Portland Trail Blazers tied for the sixth worst record. The average of the 6th and 7th positions in the lottery was taken, resulting in each team getting 53 combinations (the average of 63 and 43). Should the average number not be an integer, a coin flip is then used to determine which team or teams receive the extra combination. The result of the coin flip is also used to determine who receives the earlier pick in the event that neither of the tied teams wins one of the first three picks via the lottery.”

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_draft_lottery

  • CSTracy10

    CSTracy10 7:02 PM on February 15, 2017 Permalink  

    Momentary Optimism…

    It appeared that many were questioning how we lost last night. “What is the benefit of losing if we lose while not developing the kids?” As we know, Lou scored 19(?) in the fourth. It just so happens that the trade deadline is fast approaching. Why now allow Lou to +++ his value? I like Lou, would love to keep him, but the time is not right. We are best off trading him to ensure the tank and maybe get a project or pick in return. Lou establishing himself as 1-man offense, particularly to end games is going to up his value. I am OK with it as long as it isn’t our modus operandi post trade deadline.

     
  • CSTracy10

    CSTracy10 2:23 PM on January 26, 2017 Permalink  

    I had a dream last night, a bad dream, that Brandon Ingram was Wesley Johnson….

     
    • mclyne32 (Director) 2:35 PM on January 26, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      BAWHAHAHAHHAAAA!

      • CSTracy10

        CSTracy10 2:56 PM on January 26, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Lotta pick with projected high ceiling but issues with motor and passivity……

        • keen observer

          keen observer 8:38 PM on January 26, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Figures mcwhyne would love that. Maybe he will be the next Wesley Johnson. Maybe he will surprise all of you neg-heads. Then again, it won’t be soon enough for you no matter what.

    • GDUBinDC

      GDUBinDC 3:20 PM on January 26, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Being that he’s a 19 year old rookie, I’m gonna give him a pass for THIS season.

      • DJ2KB24

        DJ2KB24 3:25 PM on January 26, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Yeah, I agree, but we seem to give everybody a pass for 1 year, 2 years, 3 years, lol.

        • keen observer

          keen observer 7:03 PM on January 26, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          STFU already.

          • AK27

            AK27 8:23 PM on January 26, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Perhaps folks just don’t know how to STFU…be a leader of men and show ’em how it’s done..might work better than your b***h azz whining

            • keen observer

              keen observer 8:39 PM on January 26, 2017 Permalink

              Whatever you say, brat,

  • CSTracy10

    CSTracy10 6:03 PM on November 18, 2016 Permalink  

    Can someone help me out and let me know if tonight’s game is nationally televised, and, if so, what channel? Much thanks

     
  • CSTracy10

    CSTracy10 10:51 AM on November 11, 2016 Permalink  

    Hungover recap, take 1.

    [insert more words than I care to write about how nice Golden 1 Center is, and how the fans offered an enjoyable mixture of amicability and a$$holishness.)

    Now to the player hating – but only for a moment.

    D’Lo. Did not satisfy. Outside of his 3rd quarter stint, he looked slow, frazzled, and his handle was atrocious. I remember seeing his off-season dribbling workouts – uhh, he must have a good video editer. I got the impression that he wants to do starlike things on every possession, a la Reggie Bush at USC when he would cut a punt return to the other side of the field.Obviously, Reggie did not and could not do that at the pro level. D’Lo will have flashes of brilliance but he needs to develop his “base arsenal” before he wants to go all Chef Curry through 3 defenders. However, his mid-range off the pick and pop is a thing of beauty.

    Mozgov – were the Laker cheers as loud on TV as they were at the arena when he bammed that oop? Outside of 1st quarter D (and I give him a little slack here as well since Cousins hit 2[?] threes) I thought he had a very solid night. I think we would all like to see greater rebounding numbers, but he exerts a lot of effort clearing his man on box outs so his teammates can get the board – something not reflected in the box-score.

    Deng – I’ll use my GF’s line of the night to summarize his performance “he isn’t very good, eh?”

    Randle – Consider me on the hype train. If he can start hittting jumpers, he might be the best of the youngins. I never would have said this before due to the frequently discussed defensive limitations – but he is quick. I was pleasantly surprised with his footspeed (albeit his defensive approach wasn’t always ideal). Passing was solid, and last night he had a better handle than Russ. I loved that he and Cousins tousled, by the way. On a night in which Cousins apppeared to call out his teammates for being tender, it was reassuring to see our boys have some edge.

    Nance – Indubitably the glue guy. I remember when we drafted Larry one of the commentators said the Spurs were also targeting him because he is “over himself”. I think his +/- (+8) was noticeable. The game just seemed to come easier to LA when he was out there. His height, wingspan, and leaping ability make me very optmisitc about his defensive potential.

    Ingram – He played hard, and he played smart. He didn’t assert himself as much as I would have liked (he did have one basket that seemed to turn the tide in LA’s favor, though). He played the game like a vet, which is nice, but at some point I think we all want him to turn into a killer on the offensive end. Biggest difference between he and KD – KD got his shots up as a rook – which may speak to a mental difference as much as anything.

    Lou//Swaggy – similar stat lines, slightly different methodologies. (Lou is much more ball dominant). Simply put, we don’t win this game if they play as well as they did. Wish I would have payed more attention to Nick’s defense.

    LUKE – the good start has him wanting to WIN (i.e. sitting DLO and Clarkson most of the 4th). I guess developing a winning culture is developmental in its own sense.

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 11:16 AM on November 11, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Good stuff, CS. And yes, the cheers for Mozgov were even louder in the Lakers Nation. Unbelievable comeback by the Lakers and once again contributions from everyone. D’Angelo really has been struggling with his handle and shot although he did get hot in the second quarter. I’m confident he will get it going and when he does, I believe it will elevate the team to another level.

      Lou Will is playing the way he did when he won 6MOY with the Raptors. If he keeps this up, he has a chance to win a second 6MOY. Great adjustments defensively by Luke in the second half. Held Cousins to 10 points and the Kings to 45 points. No way you come back from 19 down without great defense. Lakers continue to prove they are a potential playoff team in the West.

    • keen observer

      keen observer 11:53 AM on November 11, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      D’Angelo Russell may not be the next Damian Lillard, but remember that he is still learning the point guard position and is still more comfortable playing off the ball. Give him time. He has a very special set of skills and a very high ceiling. I’m encouraged.

      Brandon Ingram will be an all-star someday and potentially a superstar. He just naturally gets the NBA game. I love what I see from him. He’s a child.

      Luol Deng is still trying to find his place on this young team. It’s like the reverse Kobe situation. Whereas it was all about Kobe last season and the kids had to figure out where they belonged, Luol has to figure out where he belongs with the kids being the focus of attention. Lou Williams and Nick Young had the benefit of having played with Randle, Russell and Clarkson for a season, so it is easier for them. Mozgov has a very defined role, so it will be easier for him, too. Deng probably thought that he would have a bigger role, so now he’s adjusting to a smaller role. Calderon has the same issue, except it’s even more difficult for him because he gets so few minutes. Bottom line: I think Deng will be fine and we will be very happy with him by mid-season.

      • LakerTom (Publisher) 12:03 PM on November 11, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I agree with your assessments, Oscar.

        When Russell starts playing to his potential this year, it will catapult the Lakers to an entirely different level. He is still contributing to the team’s wins but is definitely struggling with his handle and turnovers. Ingram will also improve greatly before the end of the year.

        Meanwhile, we are asking Deng to play a different role and I expect there will be many games in this long season where he will contribute mightily. His best role would be power forward, though, as that was where he excelled with Miami last year but minutes there are hard to come by.

        • CSTracy10

          CSTracy10 1:58 PM on November 11, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          That is a very keen observation on the reverse Kobe situation. I think you are exactly right, well, at least I really hope you are.

  • CSTracy10

    CSTracy10 5:51 PM on November 10, 2016 Permalink  

    Assuming I Make it 

    If, by the good grace of the president-elect himself, I make it through Capitol park on my way to Golden 1 Center (first time there, and I have to admit I am excited) and manifest by bottom in my drastically overpiced seat – what should comprise my list of duties/observations?

    So far my list entails:

    Why is D’Lo missing? How smooth/quick is his release?

    Lance’s off ball / defensive contributions. (oh, and what kind of lotion he uses when he palms the back of defenders heads).

    Jump to all sorts of hasty generalizations on Ingram/Durant Clarkson/Westbrook comparisons.

    Find out what books Luke Walton reads (and wheter or not he remembers me booing him at 6-man)

    Perform a hype check on Randle.

    Ask Cousins what number he is gonna wear for us next year.

    Recommendations welcome. Ya got 35 mins

     

    Go LA!

     
    • GDUBinDC

      GDUBinDC 6:26 PM on November 10, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      1) Funny u should mention D’Lo’s release, I’ve never really liked it bcuz it seems like he just sorta flicks his wrist rather than actually follows through with it. But I don’t like to complain about a players release if it works for them.

      2) LNJ seems to always leave me satisfied with his play on both ends.

      3) All those comparisons r just beyond silly to me at this point.

      4) Oh, I’m sure he wont’ be able to resist dropping by to ask y u booed him when he was our 6th man. : )

      5) Julius does kinda look like he might be in constant hype mode.

      6) Naw, don’t ask him that … it might jinx our unrealistic chances of acquiring him.

      Only recommendation is to bring them winning vibrations with ur mere presence.

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 6:28 PM on November 10, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Good luck, CS. Lakers need support on the road.

    • CSTracy10

      CSTracy10 6:57 PM on November 10, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Many man you KB jerseys in the house this evening.

    • NBA4ever

      NBA4ever 7:50 PM on November 10, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Let us know how it is CS, I plan on going to a game there this year. Just got back from NYC, saw a game at Barclay center…..beautiful venue. Going to see a game in Portland Friday after thanksgiving, looking forward to experience the atmosphere there.

    • Magic Phil

      Magic Phil 8:17 PM on November 10, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Cousins? Anthony Davis

    • NBA4ever

      NBA4ever 9:41 PM on November 10, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Great game right now

    • NBA4ever

      NBA4ever 10:00 PM on November 10, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      There is your return on investment

      If this isn’t coaching and leadership style I don’t what to credit it to.

  • CSTracy10

    CSTracy10 1:29 PM on March 21, 2016 Permalink  

    Quick question ( I am sure it has already been addressed somewhere but I was MIA for a few months)

    If the Lakers finish with the 2nd worst record but “lose” the lotto and end up with the 4th pick – do they lose it?

    aka: is keeping the pick based on finish or draft lotto?

     
    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 1:31 PM on March 21, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Draft lotto

    • John M.

      John M. 1:41 PM on March 21, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      The worse the record, the better the odds in the lotto. Also I believe this is the last year of the “protected” clause from the Nash deal. Don’t care to rank ’em but that’s got to be the worst Laker deal ever.

      • keen observer

        keen observer 10:00 PM on March 21, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Let’s see. With the picks, the Suns drafted Nemanja Nedovic (then traded for Archie Goodwin, drafted 29th by OKC), Alex Oriakhi, Johnny O’Bryant (traded to Bucks) and the protected pick that the Sixers have owned for for 2 years. The Suns wound up with Brandon Knight with that asset. There have been worse trades, like Jerry West trading Sam Perkins to the Sonics for Doug Christie.

    • yellofever

      yellofever 3:15 PM on March 21, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      ur not kidding with the quick question

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 3:32 PM on March 21, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      We will have a 55.9% chance of winning one of the lotteries for the top 3 picks.
      If we don’t win one of the lotteries, our pick goes to the 76ers.

  • CSTracy10

    CSTracy10 12:28 PM on March 19, 2016 Permalink  

    Are Simmons + Ingram , Okafor + Towns 2.0?

    It was about this time last year that people started to prefer Towns to Okafor, and it seems the same thing is happening to Ingram/Simmons (seems like Ingram can do some things Simmons cannot [shoot])

    Definitely rooting for LA to land Ingram.

     
    • GDUBinDC

      GDUBinDC 12:30 PM on March 19, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      To be perfectly honest, I’m not really enamored of either of them at this point. If we r able to hold onto the pick, it might actually be better to just use it as trade bait. JMO

      • CSTracy10

        CSTracy10 12:34 PM on March 19, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Definitely an option worthy of consideration. What sort of player would you try to land?

        Russell + Clarkson + Ingram + Randle + ____ seems like it could be an awfully ideal 4some for the “new nba”

        • GDUBinDC

          GDUBinDC 12:36 PM on March 19, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          I think we should focus on developing that young ‘core’ and then make every effort this summer to land a good free agent or 2, which will be no small task.

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 12:41 PM on March 19, 2016 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      30 games just really isn’t a big enough sample size especially when the talent of the opposition is so uneven in college. Like the man says…it’s a crapshoot. Having said that, I saw some things in Simmons off-court that raised some flags.

  • CSTracy10

    CSTracy10 7:33 PM on July 13, 2015 Permalink  

    8 turnovers 1 assist   maybe his passes… 

    8 turnovers – 1 assist?  – maybe his passes are too advanced.

     

    Inability to to get around players who should be gotten around – maybe tired Legs from conditioning.

     

    I am familiar with big data, so I know nothing significant can be made of this small sample size. But, still, my expectations have tanked. Much like the lakers did last year.

     
    • GDUBinDC

      GDUBinDC 7:36 PM on July 13, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Way too early for me to have much in the way of expectations, CS … but I’m one of those rare patient Ls fans. : )

      • Seely_Iggy (Director)

        Seely_Iggy (Director) 7:37 PM on July 13, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Boo GDub ;P
        Always taking the high road to us impatient fans lol.

      • CSTracy10

        CSTracy10 7:42 PM on July 13, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Haha, i acknowledged my hastiness. Perhaps tequila diminishes my patience. I just got so hyped for Russ and JC to wreck summer league that it being far from reality is highly unpleasant. I’m just not used to rebuilds or whatever is currently happening in lalaland is called.

        • Seely_Iggy (Director)

          Seely_Iggy (Director) 7:44 PM on July 13, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Actually CS, I think you do have a good point. Russell is just too far ahead the rest of the guys. He needs to better figure out what his team mates can or cannot do at this point in time before he unleashes the full might of his ninja powers!

        • GDUBinDC

          GDUBinDC 7:47 PM on July 13, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Tequila? Now I’m jealous, CS. : )

          I think D is gonna have to just calm down a lil and let the game come to him instead of tryna force the issue so much. He’ll learn … may take a lil time tho.

          • Magicman (Editor)

            Magicman (Editor) 7:50 PM on July 13, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Yup. D’s got the tools but he’s gonna need to slow it down and take it possession by possession.

            Understand the redemption factor in trying to make up for mistakes but you can get into quick-sand that way.

            • GDUBinDC

              GDUBinDC 7:53 PM on July 13, 2015 Permalink

              Yup.

    • Magicman (Editor)

      Magicman (Editor) 7:39 PM on July 13, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Remember what Albert said, CS:

      “Mass is never constant. It changes with velocity.”

      Dude needs to slow-down. Seems like he’s having a panic-attack when he needs to make a decision.#Slow-down#Letthegamecometoyou

      • GDUBinDC

        GDUBinDC 7:40 PM on July 13, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        ‘Panic attack’ … well said, Sean. : )

      • CSTracy10

        CSTracy10 7:43 PM on July 13, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Does JC play too fast for him?

        • Magicman (Editor)

          Magicman (Editor) 7:45 PM on July 13, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Good question. I’ll rewatch all the games.

          My gut would say yes but experience would go a long way there.

      • therealhtj

        therealhtj 7:47 PM on July 13, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I’m gonna go ahead and play Anti-Tom and say the Lakers made the absolute wrong choice and picking Dluded will set them back another 5 years. He just lacks that gear NBA stars exhibit. Doubtful he’s ever anything more than a half decent rotation player.

        • GDUBinDC

          GDUBinDC 7:49 PM on July 13, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          U could be right, Stan … but I’ll reserve judgment til around All-Star break.

          • therealhtj

            therealhtj 7:51 PM on July 13, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            When we saw Clarkson last summer, everyone though we had a baller on our hands. Not so much with D’Angelo.

            I see a lot of his fellow Buckeye Evan Turner in him. Less Athletic, better passing version.

            • GDUBinDC

              GDUBinDC 7:52 PM on July 13, 2015 Permalink

              Could be .. still a lil too early to tell for sure tho.

            • mclyne32 (Director) 8:31 PM on July 13, 2015 Permalink

              If Russell doesn’t show huge improvement by the end of the year, this entire FO needs to go. Just watch Okafor tear it up all year while we cringe over every thrown away pass from Russell.

            • GDUBinDC

              GDUBinDC 8:35 PM on July 13, 2015 Permalink

              Might be a bit of an overreaction there, Matt, on both counts. While Jah has looked pretty good, it’s still only SL … let’s wait and see how he fares against seasoned NBA starters B4 we give him ROY already.

              D’Angelo is gonna have to learn to slow things down and not gamble so much. It’s a learning process and he’s played all of 3 SL games, not much of a body of work to judge him on IMO.

      • AK27

        AK27 9:47 PM on July 13, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Huh ? Was he moving at relativistic speed, Sean ? Lol

    • GDUBinDC

      GDUBinDC 7:51 PM on July 13, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Liked Jerian’s game in college and think he may become a nice pro player, too.

    • mclyne32 (Director) 8:47 PM on July 13, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      G, once he starts playing even like a backup NBA point guard, then there we be no more hyperbole from me.
      There was just too much riding on getting this pick right.
      Aside from a few inventive passes, I don’t see any difference yet between Russell and Darius Morris.
      Even Porzingis, the kid many NY fans freaked out over, showed an amount of poise and talent to make me feel he won’t be a bust at all.

      • GDUBinDC

        GDUBinDC 9:04 PM on July 13, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        All I’m sayin’ is that it’s too early in the process for me to be willing to rule him as a bust. Not all players develop at the same rate … it might take D a lil longer to shine than some of us had hoped. Like I said the other day, Kobe didn’t exactly light up the league either in his first season so I’m wiling to be patient with D’Angelo.

        • mclyne32 (Director) 9:13 PM on July 13, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          I haven’t called him a bust yet.
          He gets an entire season before I will consider using that word.
          I was just hoping to see SOMETHING promising from a kid who was so hyped up.

          • GDUBinDC

            GDUBinDC 9:15 PM on July 13, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            I think u’re overreacting a bit, Matt … but I understand … u’re an Ls fan and they rarely possess much patience. : )

            • mclyne32 (Director) 9:29 PM on July 13, 2015 Permalink

              Come on, man.
              I’m not asking for 15 and ten games from him so far. I just haven’t seen that “it” factor yet. I really don’t think that’s asking for too much.

            • GDUBinDC

              GDUBinDC 9:31 PM on July 13, 2015 Permalink

              I still think ur expectations may have been a bit too unrealistic … but, whatever.

            • mclyne32 (Director) 9:42 PM on July 13, 2015 Permalink

              All I want to see is what our FO saw in him. Hopefully, he will unveil that a bit in the preseason.

            • GDUBinDC

              GDUBinDC 9:47 PM on July 13, 2015 Permalink

              I share ur hope, Matt.

            • AK27

              AK27 10:09 PM on July 13, 2015 Permalink

              Well, expectations tend to be relative,G..I doubt that folks would be freakin out if the big fella we passed on, among others, werent showing clear signs of promise..so, i dont think Matt is necessarily being unrealistic..but hey, it is the friggin Summer League…hardly the time/place for definitive judgement lol..gotta be patient, like you said..

            • GDUBinDC

              GDUBinDC 10:13 PM on July 13, 2015 Permalink

              Exactly, AK … that was the only point I was tryna make … it’s just too early to assume anything about any of these youngsters. Let’s just wait and see how they develop(or don’t) as the season goes along.

  • CSTracy10

    CSTracy10 3:18 PM on July 4, 2015 Permalink  

    He is only 28 and very very defensively able. He is a bit slow (and may lack the conditioning) for the ‘new” NBA. But, I expect him to be effective in short bursts. Tarik and Upshaw can spell him as often as needs be.

     
    • Michael H (Editor)

      Michael H (Editor) 3:22 PM on July 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I’m going to give the fO a little love here. They took a lot of heat for chasing the big names, my self included but perhaps this was plan B all along. And if it was I think it’s a good one.

      • Magicman (Editor)

        Magicman (Editor) 3:28 PM on July 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        As good a back-up plan as you could find.

      • CSTracy10

        CSTracy10 3:32 PM on July 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        If they had this in their back pocket the whole time, then it helps explain the Russell pick a bit more.

      • tate793

        tate793 5:11 PM on July 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        That’s not “love” that’s lust You know good and darn well this was not any “Plan B”. This was pure happenstance and we lucked out.

    • LRob (Director)

      LRob (Director) 3:49 PM on July 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      well lets hope Hibbert has a strong bounce back season. He should definitely be motivated since he’s a FA next year.

    • mclyne32 (Director) 4:16 PM on July 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      It’s not a bad move.
      Defensively, he will be good for us and maybe even have a bounce back season offensively.
      I still would have liked to see us bring in a center who could play the PnR with Russell and Clarkson but I guess beggars can’t be choosers.

      • Michael H (Editor)

        Michael H (Editor) 4:40 PM on July 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Really when you think about none of the free agent centers available are big offensive players so I think we did well. As for pick and roll I’m thinking you will see a lot with Randale.

        • Magicman (Editor)

          Magicman (Editor) 4:50 PM on July 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Black, Nance and Upshaw can all run the floor and can finish with a passing PG at the rim

          • mclyne32 (Director) 5:18 PM on July 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Yes, they can.
            Before Free Agency began, I was hoping for someone, you know, better.

    • humanomaly 8:08 PM on July 4, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      If he is “a bit slow (and may lack the conditioning) for the ‘new” NBA.” … I think that’s okay, this season can be another one where the young players get a chance to really play NBA ball, staying in actual game condition, losing the rookie stigma asap, not like the times of Phil Jackson where you would never play until you had to shave your head because of hair loss.

  • CSTracy10

    CSTracy10 12:11 PM on July 3, 2015 Permalink  

    Silver-lining – due to lack of good, veteran big men, Julius will have a lot of minutes/touches this year. (similar to Clarskon last year).

    However, given the current blanket of doom and gloom covering the Lakers right now, I won’t be too surprised if he breaks his other leg on opening night.

     
    • Michael H (Editor)

      Michael H (Editor) 12:28 PM on July 3, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I’m not really feeling the doom and gloom perhaps because I had zero expectations of landing LA or Jordan. Lopez or Asik would have been nice but not 13.5 mil and 12 respectively.
      Tobias Harris is better signing for our current team profile then any of the names above except for Jordan. Add him and a serviceable center, Koufos, Nene, Hibbert etc and it’s a great off season.

    • Michael H (Editor)

      Michael H (Editor) 12:31 PM on July 3, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Even Amare for 20 to 25 minutes would be okay, giving Upshaw and Black minutes. We are rebuilding after all.

      • DJ2KB24

        DJ2KB24 12:39 PM on July 3, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Not my thinking. If we are going to lose again this year, then let all the young ones have the minutes, kinda fish or cut bait deal. See who are our keepers and then dream of the Free Agents we won’t sign next year!

        • Michael H (Editor)

          Michael H (Editor) 1:36 PM on July 3, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Aloha DJ

          Tobias Harris at 22 would be one of the young guys. And 16.7 PPP and 6 boards he has already proven he can play. Koufos would be an old timer at 26. If Upshaw develops we still have a quality back up.

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 1:03 PM on July 3, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      CS, I agree. Our young stars need to show up big this year and they cannot do that unless they get to start or at worst play starter minutes. Russell needs to win rookie of the year, Randle needs to show that the hype this spring about him was real, and Clarkson needs to prove last year was not a fluke. They’re our Baby Big 3 and have to prove they’re for real this year.

      Additionally, I think we still have a shot at having a great bench. If we signed a starting point guard and center, we could have a bench of Clarkson, Young, A. Brown, Lance Jr., and Upshaw. 3 rookies and 1 second year guy but I think they could really be one of the best benches in the league. We will be young but also very deep.

      That’s what the Lakers need next summer to lure 3 elite free agents to join the Lakers in a super team.

      • CSTracy10

        CSTracy10 3:44 PM on July 3, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I am looking forward to seeing Upshaw play. He go be the biggest sleeper of the (un)draft,

    • mud

      mud 1:09 PM on July 3, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      yep, that’s how young players get good.

      i’m not feeling this doom and gloom, though. it seems to exist in the mids of ESPN and those who are hypnotized by ESPN. just because it’s bad now doesn’t mean that it will always be bad, any more than when it was good, that it would always be good.

    • yellofever

      yellofever 2:45 PM on July 3, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      break his leg dam how can u even type that haha

    • LRob (Director)

      LRob (Director) 4:53 PM on July 3, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      no doom and gloom here…like Denny said we are who we thought we were. A team with some promising pups that’s gonna take some lumps. I’m looking forward to seeing all the rooks, plus Clarkson and Randle

    • GDUBinDC

      GDUBinDC 5:01 PM on July 3, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Sheez, CS … let’s be a lil more positive about how Julius’ll fare this season than that.

  • CSTracy10

    CSTracy10 9:12 PM on July 1, 2015 Permalink  

     
    • CSTracy10

      CSTracy10 9:13 PM on July 1, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      How do we not bring in experts? How does LA not bring in top social and personality psychologists from UCLA to help them hit these meetings out of the park?

    • CSTracy10

      CSTracy10 9:14 PM on July 1, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      It is one thing if DJ and LA do not sign in LA.

      It is another when reports are that both of them thought the presentations/meetings were underwhelming.

      • Magicman (Editor)

        Magicman (Editor) 9:26 PM on July 1, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Ego, CS.

        • CSTracy10

          CSTracy10 9:29 PM on July 1, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Mitch deserves credit for the Pau trade, but it is one thing to deal with a “same gen” GM, and another to deal with the current generation of NBA players. I am pretty close to convinced that they need help -- or an FO change.

          • Magicman (Editor)

            Magicman (Editor) 9:34 PM on July 1, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Love Mitch, have confidence in him.

            I think there’s to many cooks in the kitchen with these presentations.

            Kupchak has nothing to do with these little movies.

            He needs an Analytic guru and there’s a guy who’d be perfect for the Lakers…if they only took the initiative.

            • GDUBinDC

              GDUBinDC 9:49 PM on July 1, 2015 Permalink

              U could be right about that, Sean … obviously Mitch gets it . The others … I’m not so sure.

              A key part of the Lakers’ mystique is the banners that hang in Staples Center. But Lakers general manager Mitch Kupchak said prospective players aren’t interested in a history lesson.

              “They want to know about the team you’re building, the opportunity and what they’ll be looking at going forward,” Kupchak said during exit interviews at the end of the 2014-15 season. “So that’s what we’ll try to sell them on.”

              http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13174634/nba-los-angeles-lakers-offseason-allure-strong

            • mclyne32 (Director) 9:53 PM on July 1, 2015 Permalink

              I agree Sean.
              Our FO has become an inept Old Boys Club that needs to wKe up and realize it’s not 1985 anymore.

          • Magicman (Editor)

            Magicman (Editor) 9:53 PM on July 1, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Right G, and all of us know you’re only as informed as the information you have.

        • mclyne32 (Director) 9:55 PM on July 1, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          And you know exactly what comes before a fall, Sean…

    • mclyne32 (Director) 9:51 PM on July 1, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I can’t begin to describe how disappointed I am in our FO. They seem to be completely out of touch with today’s NBA player. This is three summers in a row with completely coming up empty. I’m sorry, but there is absolutely no excuse to not change your approach strategy. You would think they would have learned by now. Since they haven’t, there needs to be a shake up. There will be bloggers who sAy it’s no big deal because we have two max spots next year, but if we have the same fools running this show, it won’t matter. If Jeannie is so smart, she needs to realize this and do something about it. On second thought, she is part of the problem.

      When exactly is Baseball Caps self inflicted time table up? I don’t know if I can take another offseason like thanks again.

      • LRob (Director)

        LRob (Director) 9:57 PM on July 1, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Matt I think you’ve described your feeling quite well :)

        • mclyne32 (Director) 10:00 PM on July 1, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Thanks, but I could go on for 10 paragraphs about just how frustrating this is. Thank God I have other great things, like my family, in my life to focus on.

          • Magicman (Editor)

            Magicman (Editor) 10:09 PM on July 1, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Yup. You’re Blessed everywhere else!

            It’s a small part of life but people including myself, devote leisure time, LRob, to the Lakeshow and it’s stuff like this for the 3rd offseason that makes me think…

            Maybe I should write the Great American Novel. Lol. :)

            • mclyne32 (Director) 10:15 PM on July 1, 2015 Permalink

              It would be a more productive and fulfilling use of your time. :)

            • LRob (Director)

              LRob (Director) 10:19 PM on July 1, 2015 Permalink

              I would read it lol. Seriously though I wasn’t expecting much in FA this summer so maybe that’s why I’m not as disappointed as some. However, it is somewhat disheartening to see players singling out the Lakers as being “underwehlming”….not good.

            • GDUBinDC

              GDUBinDC 10:26 PM on July 1, 2015 Permalink

              That’s pretty much how I felt, too, LRob. My expectations weren’t that high to begin with. I was more lookin’ forward to the next coupla offseasons when we’ll have the cap space to be serious suitors for the top FAs.

      • Magicman (Editor)

        Magicman (Editor) 9:58 PM on July 1, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I agree Matt.

  • CSTracy10

    CSTracy10 8:19 PM on June 25, 2015 Permalink  

    Am I the only one seeing these old Larry NanceJr tweets?

     
  • CSTracy10

    CSTracy10 5:38 PM on June 16, 2015 Permalink  

    If I was calling the shots for the Lakers there is no way in hell that I draft Porzingis.(Disclaimer: obviously I am not calling the shots, and am not qualified to – but let me imagine for a minute)

    There was an article written in the last month or so which suggested that the Lakers don’t have to find the “one” – they just can’t miss. After the last two seasons the Lakers have had I am strongly inclined to agree.

    Okafor may not be the “one” – meaning that, despite his offensive talent, he may never round out his game in the way Lakers fans would like. But, at least he is a big body, with a good demeanor, who has a history of winning.

    Perhaps the ceiling on Porzingis is higher (definitely debatable) – but lets just say that it is. Is he anywhere close to it? How long will it take for him to be in NBA shape? What are the odds that he can get into NBA shape? What are the odds of that frail looking, lanky frame holding up through the weight gain process – and* the NBA grind until he reaches “that point”? Not to mention the numerous variables involved with a culture shift – think of all the homesick freshman in college.

    Just have Kobe call coach K and ask him an honest question – “should we take jah at #2?” – if he says yes just do it and take the safer route.

     
    • Magicman (Editor)

      Magicman (Editor) 5:52 PM on June 16, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      During the Death Rattle of the Traditional 4/5, Pau took around a good 4 years to develop In Memphis and he was fairly skinny as a draftee and didn’t gain too much weight, but hit the gym after the Greenies busted him up in ’08,

      Dirk took around 3 years to turn the corner and become a Superstar.

      European and European Bigs take longer than most bigs to develop. See Marc Gasol, Serge Ibaka and Nikola Pekovic as well.

      • CSTracy10

        CSTracy10 5:56 PM on June 16, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Were Pau and Dirk as young when they first came over?

        • Magicman (Editor)

          Magicman (Editor) 6:04 PM on June 16, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Spent 3 years in FC Barcelona before he was drafted at Age 21.

          Dirk, was 20 and rather spend a year in Europe he decided to go play with the Mavs.

          Pau started maturing at 24 and Dirk at 23.

          By those HIGH Standards, you’re looking at a best case scenario of Porzingis being an Impact Player in 2019 or 2020 at the earliest.

          • mclyne32 (Director) 8:46 PM on June 16, 2015 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            He won’t be as good as Pau and Dirk have been.

  • CSTracy10

    CSTracy10 2:48 PM on June 11, 2015 Permalink  

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHP8gwHUMAELc3P.jpg

     
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