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  • CSTracy10

    CSTracy10 10:25 AM on October 11, 2017 Permalink |  

    So, it seems like LA is losing their minds over BI at this point. Some are stubborn defenders, other’s capricious haters (kidding, well sort of..)

    Given the ceiling everyone talks about with BI and how some have demo’d his ceiling to one comparable to Wesley J (I’ve been having nightmares about this) – I wanted to try and put his “situation” into perspective.

    Exhibit A – Kawhi Leonard.
    Kawhi made his debut at just about 20.5 years of age. He joined a Spurs team that went 61-21 the year prior. It stands to reason that a young player joining an elite team relieves that player of a lot of pressure all the while exposing him to a proven system with established leaders (Timmy, Pop, Manu, Parker).

    Kawhi averages: 7.9 PPG, 5.1 RPG, 1.1 APG, and 1.3 SPG (he also shot 49% from the field, .376 from 3 on 1.7 attempts/game).

    His PPG the next 3 years? 11.9, 12.8, and 16.5

    EXHIBIT B: PAUL GEORGE

    Paul was also 20 when he made his debut for the 2010-11 Pacers – a team that went 32-50 the year before. While this is much different than Kawhi’s intro with the Spurs (given quality of team) it is similar in that he averaged approximately 20 mpg. He also averaged 7.8 PPG, 3.7 RPG, 1.1 APG, and 1 SPG (while shooting 45% from field and 29.8% from 3)

    As a 21 year old he averaged 12.1/5.6/2.4 on 48% from field and 38.5% from 3. !!!

    When compared to BI’s rookie campaign as a 19 !!! year old : 9.4/4.0/2.1 (on 40% from field and 29.4% from 3 and 28.8 MPG) – one thing in particular jumps out – at least to me 3 pt%

    Brandon Ingram shot the 3 ball better at Duke than KL at SDSU or PG at FSUS – yet this obviously has not translated to the pros. Why? My best guess is the difference in strength. Kawhi and PG were noticeably more filled out than BI (assuming stronger as well). BI is younger, taller, longer and lighter than the other 2 wings, and his shot has not caught up. But I believe if he is given time to grow into his body and get stronger it will. He does not need to turn into Giannis, frame-wise, (who would be another good statistical comparison) to extend his J a few more feet. Once he extends his J his off attack game out to prove as well because people cannot sit on his drives. His development, IMO is the most important thing (whether as a cornerstone or a trade chip) for the LA franchise.

     
    • keen observer

      keen observer 11:56 AM on October 11, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Great points, but when he turns sideways, you can’t even see him.

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 12:20 PM on October 11, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Hey, CS, excellent post. I still believe Ingram has a very high ceiling. My issue with him is he is not ready to fill the role Magic and Luke are trying to foist upon him out of need. While Ingram could develop into a go-to scorer and closer later in his career, he is nowhere near able to fill that role right now and should be coming off the bench rather than starting. We cannot go into this year with our firepower on the bench and the starters giving up early leads and the Lakers playing catch up all game long. Luke needs to put Kuzma in the starting lineup and give Ingram a chance to get his confidence back coming off the bench.

      Go, Yankees! If we can get a couple of runs, I think we can take down the Indians.

      • CSTracy10

        CSTracy10 1:12 PM on October 11, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I like Ingram’s defensive improvement and would be OK having him go to bench as long as it doesn’t mentally ruin him. I will gladly defer to Walton in this instance =)

        Kuzma has great instincts on the O end -- great at getting open and seems 1 step ahead of his defender at most times -- which is crazy for a rookie.

        I am not too confident in CC, but Kluber ran out of gas last year and looked poor in game 2, hopefully we get ahead like game 2 and not choke it away!!!

    • NBA4ever

      NBA4ever 12:22 PM on October 11, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Agree with all your points. My expectations of his trajectory is the same as it always was. My comment yesterday about Kuzma starting over him at this point isn’t about him as much as it’s about Kuzma and his play. Kuzma is more developed physically, mentally, and fundamentally. BI can spend another year on the bench or develop rapidly throughout the season if he wants to start.

      • Magicman (Editor)

        Magicman (Editor) 12:47 PM on October 11, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        They’re roughly the same age. What the hell are you talking about? Ingram is an ectomorph and Kuzma is a mesomorph.

        Just because someone looks different doesn’t meant they’re more developed physically barring a developmental issue.

        Whatever you’re on, I want. Lol.

        • LakerTom (Publisher) 12:53 PM on October 11, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Kuzma is 6-9 220# while Ingram is 6-9 190#
          Kuzma is also 2 years older than Ingram.

          Huge difference in maturity both mentally and physically between a 20-year old and a 22-year old.

          • keen observer

            keen observer 1:11 PM on October 11, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Great points by NBA and Tom. Sean? Not so much. :)

          • Magicman (Editor)

            Magicman (Editor) 1:27 PM on October 11, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Yeah? So? And? What?

            How many times can you argue measurables in ‘84. Jordan goes #1.

            Or in ‘97 when 7 teams past over T-Mac. TD was the best player in that draft.

            This guys are playing preseason games. Man, please. Enough.

            This is what happens when you draft kids at 18. They may take time to crock. Cal has said this. Boenheim, John Thompson, Tom Crean have all said this. They may pan out, they may not.

            And this overreaction is a symptom.

            • NBA4ever

              NBA4ever 1:37 PM on October 11, 2017 Permalink

              I think you’re the one overreacting. No one has said BI or Kuzma is going to be a bust or a star. Honestly your argument is incoherent, not sure what you are raging against. Kuzma is 2 years more mature in every way and he deserves to start based on preseason(that’s what it’s for or no?). BI may have more potential and very well might have a much better career, he’s not ready to start over Kuzma. It’s that simple, he’s a better fit and a better player NOW.

            • Magicman (Editor)

              Magicman (Editor) 1:50 PM on October 11, 2017 Permalink

              Not in every way. Ingram has a year of being in the show. That accounts for a lot.

              And perhaps, he does come off the bench. Kobe had to, Dirk had to, Ben Wallace had to, Isaiah Thomas had to.

              All possibilities.

              I’m raging against the overreaction of the Milennial generation, NBA. Invented Social Media, Participate the most as a demographic.

              And yet…are the most irresponsible, manic, triggered demo on Social Media.

              And I see it spilling into Politics, Sports, S*x, etc.

              Have you read up on the Rohingya Crisis? This is serious. North Korea is serious. Brexit is going to be a total f**k-up, I’m from that part of the world.

              I guess what I’m saying, NBA, is the World is in a turbulent place, and the Milennials are the next ones up to bat.

              Can’t afford to be distracted, anymore.

              Again, if I came across as angry towards you, again, I apologize for misplacing it.

            • NBA4ever

              NBA4ever 2:10 PM on October 11, 2017 Permalink

              I know I hear you on that. That’s why I’m raising my kids in a particular manner just trying to get them through their formal education making them “aware” from all angles including Gdub’s :)
              I’m saving/investing to gtfo of the US once they are past that imaginary line. I’m done being part of “empire”, hope I can live peacefully somewhere like Equador.

            • Magicman (Editor)

              Magicman (Editor) 2:13 PM on October 11, 2017 Permalink

              Thought of Chile, dude?

              Michelle Bachelet is a great example for World Leaders.

            • GDUBinDC

              GDUBinDC 2:38 PM on October 11, 2017 Permalink

              Hope u guys r right, but I’m not sure there’ll be a true ‘safe haven'(Equador, Chile, etc.), if, as I suspect, there’ll be a global economic collapse at some point since pretty much all economies r interrelated and interdependent. Much of what I’m reading points to exactly that occurring in the not-too-distant future.

            • Magicman (Editor)

              Magicman (Editor) 2:41 PM on October 11, 2017 Permalink

              I’m staying put, regardless, G. :)

            • GDUBinDC

              GDUBinDC 2:43 PM on October 11, 2017 Permalink

              Same here, Sean … I’ll either sink or swim right where I’m at.

            • Magicman (Editor)

              Magicman (Editor) 2:48 PM on October 11, 2017 Permalink

              Glad to hear you say that, G. :)

            • GDUBinDC

              GDUBinDC 1:55 PM on October 12, 2017 Permalink

              Yeah, Sean … I’m too old to run. : )

              BTW, here’s an article on this topic that u might find interesting. While I don’t agree with all of his views, the writer offers alotta food for thought.

              http://www.thepropheticyears.com/reasons/World%20debt.HTM

      • Magicman (Editor)

        Magicman (Editor) 12:49 PM on October 11, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I have a feeling you fail to see the difference. Look up Ectomorph, Mesomorph and Endomorph.

        Because someone has a different type, doesn’t mean a different physical maturation, necessarily.

        People need to stop pulling stuff out of their a*s in healthy discussions. It’s disingenous.

        • NBA4ever

          NBA4ever 1:05 PM on October 11, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Stfu disingenuous for sure… people need to stop acting as if there isn’t a difference in relation to sports. It’s not some fing unfair PC observation about two women body types. Get over your self, how dumb.

          Kuzma has a competitive advantage because of his physical stature as a mesomorph vs that of BI which is a ectomorph which doesn’t compete well with grown mature men. Give him a few years to add the necessary strength to his frame to compete at the level I believe he’s capable of. As if age matters in measuring one’s physical maturity.

          Is that better? What a waste of energy to make some pretentious point that is irrelevant only to look like an a*****e. smh

          • Magicman (Editor)

            Magicman (Editor) 1:14 PM on October 11, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Huh?

            Hey, this overreacting syndrome is real. It was a reminder, we all know physical maturation among peers is rare.

            Social media is a House of 1000 Mirrors, and it s become obvious, that, people are distracted and can no longer think logically, at times, because of this bluster.

            This guy, isn’t going to be in the gym working on his cut. I’m not sure why this idea he has to bulk up isn’t disingenuous. He’s not gonna be that guy.

            He’s a Reggie Miller, he’s a Anfernee Hardaway, he’s going to rely a lot on his core not muscle training. Smh.

          • Magicman (Editor)

            Magicman (Editor) 1:34 PM on October 11, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Hey man, I wasn’t calling you disingenuous. Just your statement about his maturity.

            It’s a tightrope there, difference between driving and drinking, in Canada. Could be cultural, to. Could be a bias, as a former medical professional, really don’t see the difference after 16, only rarely, from a mental maturation combined with a physical maturation, is uncommon.

            I wasn’t trying to be rude.

        • CSTracy10

          CSTracy10 1:14 PM on October 11, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          I agree with you that Kuzma has a different frame and is more ready to play.

          I am not sure if you agree or disagree that 2 years from now when BI is the same age Kuzma currently is, he will be better suited to do some of the things he is currently trying to do.

          • NBA4ever

            NBA4ever 1:25 PM on October 11, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            In two years from now I think BI will be a really good player on the same trajectory of the players you compared him to. After summer league and two preseason games I’d say 100% no way Kuzma will have a better career than BI and I still don’t but I’m not 100% sure of that after 5 preseason games. I don’t dismiss preseason games as easily as others, I see guys fighting for their careers at every level except the superstars. Simply, I just think Kuzma is the better player NOW and a better fit to start NOW.

            • Magicman (Editor)

              Magicman (Editor) 1:36 PM on October 11, 2017 Permalink

              Based on preseason data is still inconclusive, NBA.

              Ingram has played a full year, full offseason, film work. He’s further ahead than Kuzma there.

              He should start. If the first few games are a continuation of struggles in areas, I could see the staff rethinking that. To soon.

            • NBA4ever

              NBA4ever 1:38 PM on October 11, 2017 Permalink

              The reasons you listed could only be known by the coaching staff. If they make the decision to start him over Kuzma I won’t second guess it until I do.

            • Magicman (Editor)

              Magicman (Editor) 1:51 PM on October 11, 2017 Permalink

              Hey, we came to an agreement. How about that. :)

    • NBA4ever

      NBA4ever 1:44 PM on October 11, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I appreciate that, thanks. I’m still not clear on what you are saying? Are you saying no one is really more physically mature than anyone else? Just different body types? I know for myself I wasn’t as physically mature as others playing high school ball, therefore I was just an average starter. Years after high school when I finally added strength I played those same guys and dominated.

      • NBA4ever

        NBA4ever 1:45 PM on October 11, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        “as a former medical professional”

        You’re not doing the same work??

        • Magicman (Editor)

          Magicman (Editor) 1:52 PM on October 11, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          No longer in that work, Sir. You are correct.

          • NBA4ever

            NBA4ever 2:05 PM on October 11, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Well I’m sure you made that decision to make a better life in one way or more. I hope it’s working out and wish you well on your new journey.

      • Magicman (Editor)

        Magicman (Editor) 2:08 PM on October 11, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Yeah. Understood.

        Rarely anyone. Wilt, Shaq, LeBron remain the 3 players, that were gifted a Winning Jackpot by the Genetic Lottery.

        The other 99.99999% have to work harder in the gym, weight room, with a nutritionist, personal trainers, etc.

        Kobe, Michael, Brady, Jeter is the Mount Rushmore in this plateau.

        Not sure if you read all my posts or responses. I’ve long argued, more time in College, is better than a 1 year 18 or 19 year old. Especially in pros. Chris Paul went to the same Jniversity as Tim Duncan. Not a coincidence.

        And, Big Country and Bynum had similar body types, Reeves was a 4 year, 2x All-American and Bynum was 18 years old.

        Great dialogue, dude. Appreciate that.

  • CSTracy10

    CSTracy10 10:36 AM on August 3, 2017 Permalink  

    Surprised nobody is talking about the fact that DLO and ZO have an identical 80 overall rating for 2k18.

     
  • CSTracy10

    CSTracy10 9:21 AM on July 11, 2017 Permalink  

    I think Zubac spent too much time trying to lose weight. He looks weak and slow and uncoordinated. Fatten him up, please.

     
  • CSTracy10

    CSTracy10 9:24 AM on July 10, 2017 Permalink  

    Going to Golden 1 tonight to watch the game on their enormous 4k with rabid Kings fans. Let’s hope Lonzo goes bizerk and Nwaba puts Fox in a box.

     
  • CSTracy10

    CSTracy10 10:39 AM on June 22, 2017 Permalink  

    ZINGIS IS GOING TO THE SUNS

     
    • CSTracy10

      CSTracy10 10:40 AM on June 22, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Not official but parties involved make it sound close. Absolutely crazy if it goes through.

    • mclyne32 (Director) 10:40 AM on June 22, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      WOW

    • Magicman (Editor)

      Magicman (Editor) 10:48 AM on June 22, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Nothing close right now.

    • CSTracy10

      CSTracy10 10:49 AM on June 22, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      The Woj report came out a couple minutes after i saw the one suggesting Zings brother said a deal with Phoenix is likely.

  • CSTracy10

    CSTracy10 8:51 AM on June 22, 2017 Permalink  

    Just saw this and it made me feel really really good inside:

    Rookie Year

    Player A made .7 3’s per 2.6 attempts

    Player B made .7 3’s per 2.4 attempts

    One of those players is BI the other is KD

     
  • CSTracy10

    CSTracy10 4:15 PM on June 20, 2017 Permalink  

    Just read LA offered JC or JR and 27+28 for Paul

     
    • CSTracy10

      CSTracy10 4:16 PM on June 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Ball -- Ingram -- PG -- Nance -- Lopez

      Only issue is that Brooke does not play at the pace Lonzo does

      • keen observer

        keen observer 4:24 PM on June 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Brook can still be traded, too, so stay tuned.

        • DJ2KB24

          DJ2KB24 4:24 PM on June 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          That’s what I was thinking as well.

        • CSTracy10

          CSTracy10 4:35 PM on June 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          He being on an expiring contract may make him a more appealing piece to Indy or a Third team somewhere -- good point (not to mention he is good)

    • Michael H (Editor)

      Michael H (Editor) 4:19 PM on June 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      So if we trade the 2 for Butler and Clarkson who plays PG? Ingram? Ennis?

      • MongoSlade

        MongoSlade 4:21 PM on June 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        The DAR dump pretty much ensures we’re taking Lonzo

      • CSTracy10

        CSTracy10 4:22 PM on June 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Who broke the “we are trading #2 for Jimmy” story? I haven’t seen any of the big wigs mention it, but I could have missed it.

        • Magicman (Editor)

          Magicman (Editor) 4:27 PM on June 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Fake news from a person who may or may not be whom he claims to be. CS.

  • CSTracy10

    CSTracy10 3:46 PM on June 20, 2017 Permalink  

    Will LA be playing the Nance dunk when Lopez arrives?

     
    • Magicman (Editor)

      Magicman (Editor) 3:47 PM on June 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Larry has a chance to be even more savage in practice. :)

    • mclyne32 (Director) 3:47 PM on June 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      BAWHAHAHAHAAA!

      • DJ2KB24

        DJ2KB24 3:51 PM on June 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Giving up Russ for a Jimmie and Mitch mistake, I guess, I dunno. Must not have seen a brite future with Russ?

        • Magicman (Editor)

          Magicman (Editor) 3:52 PM on June 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          If you want an omelette gotta break some eggs! DJ.

          • DJ2KB24

            DJ2KB24 3:55 PM on June 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            U B always funny Seannie!

          • DJ2KB24

            DJ2KB24 3:56 PM on June 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            So what’s happening past Russ?

            • Magicman (Editor)

              Magicman (Editor) 3:57 PM on June 20, 2017 Permalink

              Good question, Deej.

              If the Ball went up tonight, Lopez can tip it but no PG is gonna catch it right now.

        • keen observer

          keen observer 3:55 PM on June 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          It’s more about the fact that Lonzo’s coming in and they are looking ahead to next summer. This is smart business and very forward thinking. FWIW, Brook Lopez added the long ball to his repertoire last season, so he makes some sense playing alongside Randle. He’s not a good rebounder, which is Randle’s strong suit but is a decent rim protector, averaging 1.7 bpg.

          • MongoSlade

            MongoSlade 4:12 PM on June 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Only way you’ll see Lopez here past next summer is if we totally strike out in that free agent market. Hell..he might not even play here this year if Earv can package him…

            • Magicman (Editor)

              Magicman (Editor) 4:17 PM on June 20, 2017 Permalink

              Yup.

            • keen observer

              keen observer 4:25 PM on June 20, 2017 Permalink

              Good point.

        • CSTracy10

          CSTracy10 3:56 PM on June 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          They are going all in on the big FA’s coming in 18. They needed that cap relief and the FO obviously was not sold on Russell as a leader/teammate.

          The strange thing to me is that Eric Pincus was so off about the agent thing.

          • DJ2KB24

            DJ2KB24 3:57 PM on June 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Man, this is “Fast & Furious!”

            • CSTracy10

              CSTracy10 3:58 PM on June 20, 2017 Permalink

              How am I supposed to get any work done this week? lol

          • MongoSlade

            MongoSlade 4:05 PM on June 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            That agent thing never made any sense

            • CSTracy10

              CSTracy10 4:07 PM on June 20, 2017 Permalink

              I can’t say I really understood it, but he seemed pretty adamant.

            • Magicman (Editor)

              Magicman (Editor) 4:07 PM on June 20, 2017 Permalink

              It did not.

        • MongoSlade

          MongoSlade 3:57 PM on June 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Shouldn’t be a surprise when you look at everything that the front office has said about DAR since his 1st training camp. Usually positive but always with a caveat or two thrown in there. Neither regime was ever totally on board with his shtick

          • Magicman (Editor)

            Magicman (Editor) 3:59 PM on June 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Byron was actually tactful about him in the media. Will not get credit for that, but never got to really say what he thought.

            • DJ2KB24

              DJ2KB24 4:01 PM on June 20, 2017 Permalink

              If we trade 2 , who’s on first and ….

            • Magicman (Editor)

              Magicman (Editor) 4:02 PM on June 20, 2017 Permalink

              Hahahaha, yup.

          • MongoSlade

            MongoSlade 4:02 PM on June 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            B.Scott scoped out his weaknesses right off the bat and got crucified by alotta fans for it.

            • Magicman (Editor)

              Magicman (Editor) 4:03 PM on June 20, 2017 Permalink

              Agreed.

            • DJ2KB24

              DJ2KB24 4:04 PM on June 20, 2017 Permalink

              Clarky at PG? Are we keeping Ball? As V Lombardi said once, “what the h… is going on out there?”

            • MongoSlade

              MongoSlade 4:07 PM on June 20, 2017 Permalink

              Lonzo is the point guard.
              That’s probably been the plan since lottery night

            • Magicman (Editor)

              Magicman (Editor) 4:08 PM on June 20, 2017 Permalink

              Yup.

            • Magicman (Editor)

              Magicman (Editor) 4:08 PM on June 20, 2017 Permalink

              Lol@DJ V Lombardi.

  • CSTracy10

    CSTracy10 1:46 PM on June 7, 2017 Permalink  

    How in the hell, especially in the midst of the “LA needs a PG and a Leader” comments from Lonzo, was he not asked about how he perceives D’LO and how he believes that they will get along/play together?

     
    • keen observer

      keen observer 1:58 PM on June 7, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Right?

      • CSTracy10

        CSTracy10 2:07 PM on June 7, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        This is going to test D’LO’s leadership skills for sure. I hope he takes it in stride as opposed to throwing a temper-tantrum and having to be traded.

        • MongoSlade

          MongoSlade 2:28 PM on June 7, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          I’ve felt for awhile that DAR’s “leadership” role is gonna be greatly diminished if Lonzo joins the tram. Probably why it was discussed so much with Lonzo at the lunch interview. DAR better fall in line…

          • LakerTom (Publisher) 5:18 PM on June 7, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Russell already has said he would have no problem moving to the 2 if the Lakers draft Lonzo. Like LaVar Ball proclaimed, Lonzo will transform D’Angelo Russell into an elite shooting guard.

            • keen observer

              keen observer 8:28 PM on June 7, 2017 Permalink

              Which he pretty much was his whole life before the NBA.

            • CSTracy10

              CSTracy10 9:22 AM on June 8, 2017 Permalink

              Where/when did he say this?

            • LakerTom (Publisher) 10:11 AM on June 8, 2017 Permalink

              “Whatever position they have me on the court — I’m a basketball player, not a point guard or a shooting guard,” Russell said in March.

        • LakerTom (Publisher) 5:43 PM on June 7, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          There are always more than one leader and more than one kind of leadership on a championship team. Sometimes two alpha dogs will clash ala Kobe and Shaq but look at what they accomplished while together. This won’t be the case with Lonzo and D’Angelo. Neither has the ego or talent of a Kobe of Shaq.

          I think Lonzo will become the next face and rock star of the franchise but he is unique as an alpha dog the same way Magic was in that his selfless style of play leaves plenty of room for other leaders, be they Worthy and Kareem or D’Angelo and Brandon. Lakers will have multiple leaders.

          I also think it’s a little early and disingenuous for fans to be looking for signs of friction with DLO when we haven’t even drafted Lonzo yet and everything you read or hear about him says that he is a talented team leader with nothing but positive things to say about teammates who like and respect him.

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 2:17 PM on June 7, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Looking at the way he answered the questions in the transcript down below, what exactly do you think he would have said?

      • MongoSlade

        MongoSlade 2:24 PM on June 7, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        “As I said..I haven’t had a chance to speak with anybody on the team yet so I can’t really say. As far as strategy and game tactics..I’ll leave that to the coaching staff.”

        Probably something like that….

      • CSTracy10

        CSTracy10 2:38 PM on June 7, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Good question, Mongo. I think a good Leader would know who is on the team and how things may be perceived. I think he could have thrown D’Lo a bone -- he is a great combo guard or that they will thrive in the backcourt.

        • MongoSlade

          MongoSlade 2:48 PM on June 7, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          I was actually thinking that Lonzo kinda low-key took a shot at DAR when he said more than once that this team needs a leader. And also mentioning all the leadership stuff Earv, Rob, & Luke discussed with him.

          • LakerTom (Publisher) 5:29 PM on June 7, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            You might want to re-think that, Mongo. From everything we have learned about Lonzo Ball, he is clearly not the kind of person, leader, or teammate who would do something like that.

            • tate793

              tate793 6:06 PM on June 7, 2017 Permalink

              Well, didn’t Russell “like” a tweet that suggested the Lakers might not select Ball at #2? And, subsequently, unlike it?

            • LakerTom (Publisher) 7:39 PM on June 7, 2017 Permalink

              LOL.

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 6:44 PM on June 7, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      All I can do is look at his words.

      My man said 2 times they have no leader and no point guard.
      Then said he was told by the head coach, gm, & team president that the team was in need of a leader.

      If that ain’t 100% about the guy who was supposed to be the team leader, the point guard of the future, and the face of the franchise then I don’t know what else to say….

      • keen observer

        keen observer 8:32 PM on June 7, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Meanwhile, they moved DLo to the shooting guard position for the last stretch of the season and he pretty much excelled, so perhaps he’s more comfortable in that role anyway. This is a legit conversation that might be a whole lot of nothing.

        • MongoSlade

          MongoSlade 8:58 PM on June 7, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Apparently they’ve removed his leadership responsibilities as well…lmao

          • tate793

            tate793 10:09 PM on June 7, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            ….and, his keys to the franchise.

          • keen observer

            keen observer 10:09 PM on June 7, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Would that be such a bad thing? If Lonzo’s a natural leader, taking that pressure off DLo might make him thrive on a consistent basis.

            • tate793

              tate793 10:20 PM on June 7, 2017 Permalink

              I’d love nothing more than for him to thrive.

            • tate793

              tate793 12:01 AM on June 8, 2017 Permalink

              Bottom line -- if the brain trust of the franchise decides on backcourt of Ball and Russell, I’ll get behind them and support them 100%. That’s basically all we can do, anyhow.

            • keen observer

              keen observer 7:10 AM on June 8, 2017 Permalink

              I think it makes total sense. Remember, Luke is a student of Phil Jackson and Phil loved bug guards. We’d have two of them and with more spacing created by Ball, DLo will become a deadly 3 point shooter. Ball won’t have to shoot it as much, but he already has NBA 3 point range. We’ll see. Magic and Pelinka may dislike Russell as much as many fans do, so we might even see a trade.

            • tate793

              tate793 12:26 PM on June 8, 2017 Permalink

              If the cookie crumbles that way, then so does the idea of playing Ingram at the 2, and PG coming on board to play the 3. Julius, will be manning the 4, and, presumably, Zubac the 5.

              As for the defense, the Laker’s bench, Nwaba, Brewer, Clarkson, Nance, Robinson, Ennis, et al will probably be a better PNR defense and more efficient around the perimeter, as well, keeping them in control of the ball game.

              There will be great expectations of the coaching staff to meld this roster into form. Not to mention the FA outliers -- Dion Waiters, Millsap, Holiday, Festus Ezekiel, Taj Gibson, Iggy,

  • CSTracy10

    CSTracy10 11:35 AM on May 24, 2017 Permalink  

    D’Lo likes tweet stating “no way Laker’s should draft Lonzo” 

    Make of it what you will

     
    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 11:37 AM on May 24, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I make little of it, although the guys has shown he ought not to be on social media until he takes a class or something.

    • CSTracy10

      CSTracy10 11:54 AM on May 24, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I am trying very hard not to make much of it. I think there are a few possible scenarios that render this harmless:

      1. it was an accidental like -- it happens
      2. He liked it because of it’s complimentary nature towards him.

      Now, if it is the second of the 2, I am not completely at ease because it exhibits a lack of awareness.

      Here is me making too much of it.

      He was being intentionally passive aggressive. He is jealous that the LA native is coming to his team,a and does not want to relinquish control. This is particularly concerning because this shows he believes this is his team to lead and 2 how he leads -- by being passive aggressive.

      On a side note -- I think that he can still lead (should he prove worthy) with Lonzo on the team due to Lonzo’s reticence.

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 12:02 PM on May 24, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Anybody who uses twitter knows how easy it is to hit the like as you’re scrolling thru your feed. Difference between me & DAR is that nobody is hound-dogging my account 24/7 waiting for me to make this kinda slip-up. Not a big deal in my book..

      As for “leading the team”? DAR has never been that guy no matter how hard this regime or the previous one has tried to push it. Seems like Julius n JC are the biggest voices..

      • mclyne32 (Director) 2:39 PM on May 24, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Well said, Mongo.
        You can never make a leader out of someone who just isn’t, even if they try their best to become one.
        Either you are, or you aren’t.

    • keen observer

      keen observer 12:19 PM on May 24, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

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  • CSTracy10

    CSTracy10 9:56 AM on May 22, 2017 Permalink  

    Did Fox score 39 in a game Lonzo played in? Yes. How many points were Lonzo’s “fault”? 11. Outside of this one game (which is not as bad as people want it to be, not to mention an insignificant sample), he was a pretty good defender. Fox is explosive, no question there, but he is also small. What indication is there that he is going to be a better defender than Lonzo?
    For those of you who tweeter, check out Cranjis Mcbasketball’s stats on the matter

     
    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 10:03 AM on May 22, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Folks are putting a whole lot on this single game.
      As if these two are gonna be playing against each other 82 times each season.

      • LakerTom (Publisher) 1:14 PM on May 22, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        It does show who rises to the challenge and who doesn’t. I do wonder whether Lonzo was injured during that game. There was a play where he stuck his hand out on an errant pass and it seemed to have injured him. Also some excuses from the Bruins about his hamstrings bothering him that game. For sure, Lonzo did not look like himself and Fox had his best game of the season.

  • CSTracy10

    CSTracy10 2:52 PM on May 12, 2017 Permalink  

    I thought LT was crazy, but word here in Sac is that Kings are interested in packaging to move up

     
  • CSTracy10

    CSTracy10 12:04 PM on March 31, 2017 Permalink  

    I am sure this has been asked and discuss, if so just point me in that direction, but what are the lottery consequences of the Lakers and Suns finishing with identical records?

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 12:16 PM on March 31, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      No coin flip. Both teams get the average number of ping pong balls for #2 and #3 seed So Lakers odds would be the average of 55.8% and 46.9% or 51.35% for each team.

      “In the event that teams finish with the same record, each tied team receives the average of the total number of combinations for the positions that they occupy. In 2007, the Minnesota Timberwolves and the Portland Trail Blazers tied for the sixth worst record. The average of the 6th and 7th positions in the lottery was taken, resulting in each team getting 53 combinations (the average of 63 and 43). Should the average number not be an integer, a coin flip is then used to determine which team or teams receive the extra combination. The result of the coin flip is also used to determine who receives the earlier pick in the event that neither of the tied teams wins one of the first three picks via the lottery.”

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_draft_lottery

  • CSTracy10

    CSTracy10 7:02 PM on February 15, 2017 Permalink  

    Momentary Optimism…

    It appeared that many were questioning how we lost last night. “What is the benefit of losing if we lose while not developing the kids?” As we know, Lou scored 19(?) in the fourth. It just so happens that the trade deadline is fast approaching. Why now allow Lou to +++ his value? I like Lou, would love to keep him, but the time is not right. We are best off trading him to ensure the tank and maybe get a project or pick in return. Lou establishing himself as 1-man offense, particularly to end games is going to up his value. I am OK with it as long as it isn’t our modus operandi post trade deadline.

     
  • CSTracy10

    CSTracy10 2:23 PM on January 26, 2017 Permalink  

    I had a dream last night, a bad dream, that Brandon Ingram was Wesley Johnson….

     
    • mclyne32 (Director) 2:35 PM on January 26, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      BAWHAHAHAHHAAAA!

      • CSTracy10

        CSTracy10 2:56 PM on January 26, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Lotta pick with projected high ceiling but issues with motor and passivity……

        • keen observer

          keen observer 8:38 PM on January 26, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Figures mcwhyne would love that. Maybe he will be the next Wesley Johnson. Maybe he will surprise all of you neg-heads. Then again, it won’t be soon enough for you no matter what.

    • GDUBinDC

      GDUBinDC 3:20 PM on January 26, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Being that he’s a 19 year old rookie, I’m gonna give him a pass for THIS season.

      • DJ2KB24

        DJ2KB24 3:25 PM on January 26, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Yeah, I agree, but we seem to give everybody a pass for 1 year, 2 years, 3 years, lol.

        • keen observer

          keen observer 7:03 PM on January 26, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          STFU already.

          • AK27

            AK27 8:23 PM on January 26, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Perhaps folks just don’t know how to STFU…be a leader of men and show ’em how it’s done..might work better than your b***h azz whining

            • keen observer

              keen observer 8:39 PM on January 26, 2017 Permalink

              Whatever you say, brat,

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