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  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 2:27 PM on February 18, 2017 Permalink |  

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    Congrats to me, er, I mean Sidney. Hope ya make it!

     
  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 4:25 PM on February 17, 2017 Permalink |  

    I think (just me now) that continuing to play 10 or so under 30 minutes each is silly, unless we are trying to tank. How in the world do you get any kinda rhythm going? Rarely starting Clarky. Why is that? Not starting Lou. I dunno. I guess we B tanking for the 3rd or 4th year in a row.

     
    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 5:27 PM on February 17, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      You really think we’d be winning more games with those lineup changes? This ain’t tanking. .we just ain’t very good

      • DJ2KB24

        DJ2KB24 5:29 PM on February 17, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I think it’s a combo.

      • MongoSlade

        MongoSlade 5:49 PM on February 17, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        But Luke was running the same lineup and minutes when they were 10-10. Is taking Moz out the lineup tanking?

      • GDUBinDC

        GDUBinDC 7:10 PM on February 17, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Exactly, MS … I don’t see more playing time necessarily speeding up the development of these youngins. It’s most likely gonna take years, just like Magic said. So we as fans might as well just buckle up, get comfortable and enjoy the ride as best we can.

        Or … to borrow one of ur favorite lines … JUST ROLL WIT IT. : )

        • Magic Phil

          Magic Phil 7:20 PM on February 17, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          That’s right. We might lose a lot but…even if it’s gonna take 5 years, we need to see some improvement year after year. Like how JC improved from what he was. That’s why I don’t judge Ingram at all on his 1st year. Let’s see how his 2nd season will pan out. The game against the Suns was a bad sign for everybody’s future. Kids will not get better with that type of effort.

          • DJ2KB24

            DJ2KB24 7:22 PM on February 17, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Good points MP. Who is to shoulder that effort? The Coach, the Team, what individuals on the team, the FO?

            • Magic Phil

              Magic Phil 9:43 PM on February 17, 2017 Permalink

              I have to say the players. They are the ones who should be putting some effort not only for the team but also for themselves.

              They’re not “failing”, they’re just kids. But it’s time to face the next step.

        • DJ2KB24

          DJ2KB24 7:21 PM on February 17, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          How long? We have had 4 losing seasons in a row. Since 1961, the longest period was 2 years, twice. Anyone think we are gonna have a winning season next year. Just for the record, lol? I will have forgotten who by this losing season next year, lol. Four years and probably should look up the term -- insanity.

    • mud

      mud 10:34 AM on February 18, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Clarkson doesn’t need to start.
      the team is handled in this way because the coaches feel that it’s the best strategy for the long run. it remains to be seen who is right and who is wrong, but either way, there will be unearned crowing regardless of outcome.

      • DJ2KB24

        DJ2KB24 12:07 PM on February 18, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Well, how’s this season working for ya? Next be any different? Why will it be different?

        • mud

          mud 12:23 PM on February 18, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          actually, this season has been ok. it’s been below my hopes, but it’s been as expected.

          will next year be different?
          maybe. that’s hard to say. many things can happen in the meantime.

        • John M.

          John M. 12:26 PM on February 18, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          One may slice it and dice it forever, but the reality is the team may not win another title for decades. The Knicks are the most valuable franchise in the league, yet it’s been 40 years for them. The Warriors went 40 years between championships. The Cavs just won their first ever. The Celtics will never be what they were in the 60s. Get the picture?

          So the question is, can you live with that? I can, because I accept whatever happens and there is no other NBA team I care about.

          Go Lakers!

  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 3:55 PM on February 16, 2017 Permalink |  

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    Pic o the day. My little one with Reg! My son and I headed for the parking garage and caught Smitts and Schremp and saw Reggie leaving. Security said no more Auto’s and such, but I pointed to my son at Reggie and he stopped got out and called my son over. Reggie is a hero to me and my son.

     
  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 1:00 PM on February 16, 2017 Permalink |  

    Trying hard to think of any Laker that would object to movin on via trade. After 2/3 of the season these guys look so confused, with no coherent direction. I’m giving Byron a break. Feel sorry for Luke too. One step forward. two steps back. : (

     
    • John M.

      John M. 2:27 PM on February 16, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Close your eyes and say, “Rebuilding takes time and player development is our focus.” As many times as you need to feel better :).

  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 7:25 PM on February 15, 2017 Permalink |  

    Well, I B catching 2nd half morrow boys. That Booker is something special!

     
  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 3:39 PM on February 15, 2017 Permalink |  

    Just Facts, not Alternative at all, here we go. Losing Laker seasons since 1961 are:

    1967
    1976
    1993
    1994
    2005
    2014
    2015
    2016
    2017 and should we plug in 2018 already?

     
    • keen observer

      keen observer 4:25 PM on February 15, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Sure, why not. So you are simply confirming why Lakers fans are spoiled and ungrateful. Big deal.

      • DJ2KB24

        DJ2KB24 5:23 PM on February 15, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Yep. spoiled, but definitely not ungrateful. Honestly, the Lakers made me that way. : )

    • mud

      mud 4:27 PM on February 15, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      too bad.
      cry me a river.

    • John M.

      John M. 5:10 PM on February 15, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      The Lakers are my wife in my parallel, man-cave universe. For better or for worse.

  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 12:45 PM on February 15, 2017 Permalink |  

    Just finished the game, gee, no wonder we don’t want Cousins, lol!

     
    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 1:42 PM on February 15, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      He tops my list.

    • John M.

      John M. 1:45 PM on February 15, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Gotta be a shrink somewhere in LA who can work on his between-the-ears game :)

    • Caliphilosopher

      Caliphilosopher 1:52 PM on February 15, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I’m still hoping (might be a daydream), but if we could get Otto Porter Jr. we wouldn’t have to gut the team. Boogie can ball for sure, but I think I am on board with a build a deep team approach. Given our current FA misses, I’m thinking something like a build of a younger version of the 2004 pistons/GSW: internal growth, and a potential trade down the line to really bring things together.

      • DJ2KB24

        DJ2KB24 2:05 PM on February 15, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I don’t want to wait another 4 years, lol!

        • AK27

          AK27 2:10 PM on February 15, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Nobody does, Deej…some are just more at peace with it than others…

          • LakerTom (Publisher) 2:18 PM on February 15, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            LOL. Some of us on this blog might not be alive in 3 to 5 years.

            • DJ2KB24

              DJ2KB24 2:20 PM on February 15, 2017 Permalink

              : ( LT!!!!!

            • DJ2KB24

              DJ2KB24 2:21 PM on February 15, 2017 Permalink

              PS-Clarky and Nance sprained right thumps, might play, sit em!

          • DJ2KB24

            DJ2KB24 2:20 PM on February 15, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Depends on how long we want to irrelevant? Eight years? Magic and me ain’t havin it! Lol!

            • keen observer

              keen observer 2:46 PM on February 15, 2017 Permalink

              You had to wait from 1988 to 2000 between championships. What makes you less patient now? Wasn’t it 1962-1977 and then 1978-1996 for the Yankees?

            • MongoSlade

              MongoSlade 2:52 PM on February 15, 2017 Permalink

              The guy running the franchise between 88-00 had already proven he was worthy of that kinda patience.

            • keen observer

              keen observer 3:06 PM on February 15, 2017 Permalink

              Say what?

            • DJ2KB24

              DJ2KB24 3:35 PM on February 15, 2017 Permalink

              Keeno. Friend. Not Chips. Just in the mix.

            • keen observer

              keen observer 4:30 PM on February 15, 2017 Permalink

              No collective bargaining agreement in NBA history did more to directly harm an NBA franchise for more than just a brief time period than the 2011 CBA did to the Lakers, regardless of who was running the team. The Lakers were saddled with salary through the 2013 season which deprived the team of flexibility. The decision to reward Kobe Bryant further stalled any ability to improve in the new NBA, but regardless of that, we would not have been in the “mix” according to any Lakers fan’s standard. Consider these Lakers the aging/post-Mickey Mantle terrible Yankees teams of the 60’s and chill. We will be back in the mix, just not nearly as soon as everyone wants (demands). In the meantime, go ahead and whine, complain, b!tch, vent and let off the seemingly daily steam that many of you feel is necessary. As for me, mud, John M, GDub and some of the more rational fans, we will enjoy the so-called process.

            • MongoSlade

              MongoSlade 4:59 PM on February 15, 2017 Permalink

              Nobody is “enjoying” this.
              Just tolerating it because that’s the only option if we choose to remain fans.

            • keen observer

              keen observer 7:47 PM on February 15, 2017 Permalink

              I’m a proud masochist.

            • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

              Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 12:14 AM on February 16, 2017 Permalink

              what mongo said.

            • keen observer

              keen observer 7:57 AM on February 16, 2017 Permalink

              I admit that I’m a nobody. Perhaps a big picture nobody, but a nobody nonetheless.

  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 11:05 AM on February 12, 2017 Permalink |  

    Okay, so let’s compare Lakers, Philly and Boston. All were stuck in the mud 3 years ago. Now, we Lakers, have to hope we keep our pick. We have a team of some young players we hope show All-Star potential at some point. We have 2 worthless (well, shouldn’t say worthless, we paid them a lot of worth) players in our scheme of youth. Two of our best are 31 and we hope we can get something great for them? We will be lucky to win 25 games. Future looks?
    Philly is starting to play very well and have their Pick and perhaps ours, plus Simmons on the mend, and have a couple of assets to trade. Future looks great!
    Boston, wow! They are already playing great and have the possible 1st Pick and a draw for Hayward (Coach Stevens from their Butler U days). Future already great!
    Any questions?

     
    • For whom the bell trolls 11:30 AM on February 12, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      What? No Knicks?

    • keen observer

      keen observer 11:52 AM on February 12, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Man do you define the words impatient and irrational.

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 1:11 PM on February 12, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      The mistakes that got us here have been well-documented

      • tate793

        tate793 5:44 PM on February 12, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Yep.

      • keen observer

        keen observer 7:27 AM on February 13, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Those so-called “mistakes” would not have had us anywhere near a championship anyway, so it’s better to be where we are. The only thing that might have had us somewhere near close would have been trading Kobe, Pau and Lamar (the latter two were traded for CP3). If you think it was all mistakes and had NOTHING to do with the 2011 CBA, the CP3 ordeal, the Lakers’ payroll, and the fact that we were an aging team, then you are nothing but an ingrate who chooses only BLAME and hindsight. You are therefore ingrates who lack any patience or vision whatsoever.

  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 3:41 PM on February 10, 2017 Permalink |  

    Whatever, take me off the Magic hate train! Gave me years of joy and 5 Rings!

     
    • tate793

      tate793 3:48 PM on February 10, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Wouldn’t worry about it, DJ. People will always pass unlearned opinions about things they don’t know. They weren’t there for Magic’s illustrious career, and can only glean what they can from youtube and the internet. Easy for them to hate.

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 3:50 PM on February 10, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      No hate from me whatsoever.
      Love him as a consultant.
      He even admits himself that he’s not up to speed on the day-to-day stuff though…

    • John M.

      John M. 3:57 PM on February 10, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      He was pure magic on the court, and I will never forget Showtime. We have a right to be skeptical about anyone’s transition to the business side of basketball, however. I hope he does a great job.

      • tate793

        tate793 4:00 PM on February 10, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Danny Ainge, Jerry West, Pat Riley, Bill Sharman all made the transition.

        • DJ2KB24

          DJ2KB24 4:30 PM on February 10, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          We just need to wait and see. Give him Jimmie’s 3 years, lol! PS-I don’t hate Mitch or Jimmie either. But, the record stays the same nuttin since Doc passed. Have many of us would still be in charge after 4 losing season or 4 years of company losse$?

        • MongoSlade

          MongoSlade 4:33 PM on February 10, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          They all spent years learning the trade after their playing careers were over. Magic? Not so much.

          • tate793

            tate793 4:37 PM on February 10, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Only Ainge took years. Sharman, West and Riley all took a fast track from coaching to GM.

            • MongoSlade

              MongoSlade 5:11 PM on February 10, 2017 Permalink

              Sharman coached for well over a decade.
              West coached for 3 years and worked as a scout for 3 years
              Riley coached for well over decade.
              Just sayin….

              Larry Bird woulda been a more apt comparison.

            • tate793

              tate793 5:24 PM on February 10, 2017 Permalink

              Coaching does nothing to prepare one for the business side of the equation. Neither does scouting.

            • p ang

              p ang 5:26 PM on February 10, 2017 Permalink

              neither does being able to dribble a basketball

            • tate793

              tate793 5:29 PM on February 10, 2017 Permalink

              But charisma does.

            • tate793

              tate793 5:40 PM on February 10, 2017 Permalink

              Yet, Magic is a successful business man.

            • p ang

              p ang 5:41 PM on February 10, 2017 Permalink

              Sharman, West, Riley and Bird had charisma? In what universe?

            • MongoSlade

              MongoSlade 5:56 PM on February 10, 2017 Permalink

              Coaching & scouting puts you in closer contact with the other side of the business. Playing doesn’t. Magic hasn’t been in basketball for awhile now and the business side is alot more complicated now than it was when Shaman, West, etc…broke in.

            • tate793

              tate793 9:24 PM on February 10, 2017 Permalink

              Yes West, Riley and Sharman have charisma. I know nothing of Bird’s personality -- never mentioned him. Coaching and scouting ain’t got nothing to do with the business side of things.

            • keen observer

              keen observer 8:56 AM on February 11, 2017 Permalink

              We’ll see.

    • GDUBinDC

      GDUBinDC 7:56 PM on February 10, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Man hasn’t been on the job a week yet, nor has he made any major decisions, and already, some r questioning his qualifications. Only in Lakerdom. LOL

      • MongoSlade

        MongoSlade 8:07 PM on February 10, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Lmao…I was questioning his qualifications before he even took the job. Again…I got no problem with him as a consultant.

      • DJ2KB24

        DJ2KB24 8:11 PM on February 10, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Well, that game was closer than it should have been. Like the kids playing though. Way it should be. That is our direction, right? Wonder what the heck Moz is thinking and what we gonna do with him?

      • keen observer

        keen observer 9:00 AM on February 11, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        The bottom line is that as the primary decision maker for the Lakers organization, Jeanie Buss recognizes her shortcomings and needs to lean on someone to make decisions regarding the front office and other important basketball decisions. Part of that is because it will be asking her own brother to resign, but it obviously does not end there. That meeting with her brother will be with Magic now.

        There’s not enough talk about Jeanie nutting it up in here. She is relying on one of her best friends and a logical choice to make the tough decisions. Let’s credit her for having the balls to go this direction. Just like her father, she is selfless. Right or wrong, kudos to her!

    • tate793

      tate793 11:31 AM on February 11, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Yes, Sir, Mr. Keen. She showed real wisdom in accepting her own personal limitations and enlisted the service of a friend that was capable and willing.

  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 3:27 PM on February 9, 2017 Permalink |  

    I believe that Clarky has the highest shooting % of all playing guards we have. All this talk about adding more low hanging fruit seems like what we have done the past 4 years. Is nice to see that my feelings about signing Deng and Moz are about the same as I said when we signed them. Magic is correct, about all we need is a real Super and we might be able to have a chance a Chip sooner than later. Differnece between Falcons and Patriots is Falcons have Matt Ryan and the Patriots have Tom Brady.

     
    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 4:05 PM on February 9, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I think we’re alot more than just 1 player away.

      • DJ2KB24

        DJ2KB24 4:29 PM on February 9, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Probably true, but if we had KD35 or Westy or The Beard, we’d be in the mix.

    • CSTracy10

      CSTracy10 4:09 PM on February 9, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Should you not feel bad that you were right about Deng and Moz?
      And, obviously Brady’s post season career is a cut above just about everyone, Ryan was the MVP this year.

    • John M.

      John M. 4:21 PM on February 9, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I think the best we can hope for is the young core grows enough in 1-3 years to be competitive. Then, if we’re still needing a star, a quality FA or 2 might be interested. I’d rather we would have seen our own star(s) emerge by then, of course.

    • tate793

      tate793 5:16 PM on February 9, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      But Jordan plays 27.4 mins and puts up only 13.8 pts. Whereas Lou plays only 24.3 mins but puts up 18.3 pts. Jordan is only .327 from behind the arc. Lou is like .378.

      • DJ2KB24

        DJ2KB24 5:26 PM on February 9, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        No, I like Lou, but he’s 30 and Clarky is 24.

        Lou would be terrific on a contender!

        • tate793

          tate793 7:26 PM on February 9, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Lou is fine where he is. We would need to get suitable compensation for him if we moved him. His value is in his contract, as well as his on-the-court contribution.

          • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

            Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 7:46 PM on February 9, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Double yup.

          • keen observer

            keen observer 10:49 AM on February 10, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            It shocks me to no end that people want to get rid of Lou Williams because anything short of a young PROVEN player on the rise would be giving Lou Williams away. For example, I am not even sure if Stanley Johnson fits that description at this point.

    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 12:26 AM on February 10, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I like Clarkson as much as any Laker we have, but he certainly seems to have hit a bit of a plateau this season. He had been a little more on target in general early but has fallen off as our record has tumbled. Some of it is I think he’s yet to get a start. I think he sees all these other guys getting the start, Lou dominating the rock more off the bench, and when he gets a chance he too often chooses to drop a solo rather keep the team groove going.

      He has improved defensively, he puts in solid work on and off the court, and he’s a team-first guy on a decent enough contract. If he gets a second wind and nudges that points per game north while shooting like he did early it’ll be a decent season and one of growth. Amp up the D, keep dropping those pocket passes…some good stuff can happen. Hope he finds his way out of the valley he’s in now.

  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 1:21 PM on February 9, 2017 Permalink |  

    Stop trying to trade Clarky! Collison will be 30 next season. Willie, why? We have Black and Zubac.

     
    • mclyne32 (Director) 1:56 PM on February 9, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I’m only trading him for a talent like Boogie.
      I wouldn’t do it for WCS.

      • keen observer

        keen observer 2:06 PM on February 9, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        If I were Mitch, I’d listen to trades for Clarkson. I might even shop him around. The future is what matters. If something improves the team moving forward, why not? If it’s for crapshoot draft picks or an average dude like WCS, then no.

      • LakerTom (Publisher) 2:14 PM on February 9, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Hmmm. WCS was a legitimate lottery pick with defensive stopper potential at a position of need.. Clarkson was a late second rounder who has now peaked and is not likely to become more than he already is. Forgetting the foolishness of trading for Deng, I would be willing to trade Clarkson straight up for Willie although I doubt the Kings would.

        Much as I like Tarik, he is seriously undersized at the 5 and we don’t need another 4 who can’t stretch the floor. WCS and Zubac would be a great center tandem for the future. For a guy who can’t stand supporting a team unless they are champs, you sure seem to resist any trades to improve the team unless they’re for LeBron or Durant or a superstar, which isn’t going to happen.

      • keen observer

        keen observer 3:03 PM on February 9, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I think WCS is just a dude now and may improve, but I don’t think he’s ever going to be special in this league. I could be wrong. Hasheem Thabeet was a lottery pick. So was Kwame Brown, Olowakandi, Darko, etc. Clarkson, on the other hand, has proven to be a fairly consistent (albeit inconsistent) NBA player. No, he has not “peaked.” We have Zu, so I wouldn’t do that deal unless Sacramento sweetened it.

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 2:06 PM on February 9, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I don’t think JC’s trade value is as high as some Laker fans believe. He hasn’t had a good year at all.

      • keen observer

        keen observer 2:08 PM on February 9, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I think his trade value is low with his contract. I don’t see it as the great contract that folks make it out to be. He’s had an OK season. He’s like 8th among bench players in scoring. He’s still quite erratic though.

      • LakerTom (Publisher) 2:09 PM on February 9, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I agree. Jordan is fast becoming a black hole on offense. Missed hitting wide open Tarik Black several times last night as he turned the ball over going 1-on-1 while everybody else stood around and watched.

        • keen observer

          keen observer 3:04 PM on February 9, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          I would not go that far. I’m all over the place on how I feel about Clarkson. I’m somewhere between you and DJ. Is he expendable in the right deal? Of course.

    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 2:30 PM on February 9, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Honestly, nobody on this roster is untouchable.. I’d even trade Luke Walton a la Doc Rivers a few years back if it resulted in the right player.

      • p ang

        p ang 4:02 PM on February 9, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Bingo!

        • tate793

          tate793 5:20 PM on February 9, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          WCS is twice as athletic as Black or Zubac. Plays above the rim and would pair better with a PF. Has the length to be an effective defender anywhere on the court, as well as protect the paint/rim.

          • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

            Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 7:49 PM on February 9, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Oh I have no real interest in trading any player at all for WCS, I’d just as soon work on developing Zubac and Black, although the latter is under-sized for his position. LT is the only WCS fan boy I know, everyone else tops out at ‘WCS admirer’ and I don’t even go that far. I’d say I’m more of a ‘WCS…sure’ kinda guy.

            • tate793

              tate793 11:33 PM on February 9, 2017 Permalink

              If given comparable minutes, WCS would put up better numbers than Zubac or Black. Neither of those two play above the rim, or move as well as WCS. Neither of them have the length to contend with the likes of KAT, Embid, AD, Gobert, et al. The can’t get out and fill a wing on the break, nor defend in transition.

            • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

              Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 2:34 PM on February 10, 2017 Permalink

              It’s fairly certain he won’t be getting that kind of run playing behind Cousins. Hence me ‘he’s a decent free agent’ option theory. End of that day I agree with mongo, bad perimeter defense is just going to make any good, even just decent, defender look terrible. Champeenchip teams had the benfit of either Ariza and Kobe or Artest and Kobe along with D-Fish out on the perimeter banging guys, bumping them off routes, fighting over screens…all the little thing a good defender does to give his guy in the paint that extra second to more correctly anticipate. It’s hard to watch these guys play defense. They switch too much, rarely fight through screens (thus they hardly ever get the moving pick calls we accrue because they’re not forcing the isse). They basically make it easier to run an NBA offense by not consistently doing little things.

              I’d just as soon see each young player we have picking up a couple of more fouls/game just to get a solid sense of what the apropos level of physicality would be on a night in/night out basis.

              At any rate, I think we are in agreement: we need better defenders, full stop.

          • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

            Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 7:56 PM on February 9, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            I will say I’d think he’d be a high candidate to lure away in free agency, especially if Boogie and Sacramento come to terms for big money. He’d be an alright over pay at that age and he’d have another year behind a ‘big star’ to fire him up and get him looking to shine. Those are the kind of free agency scenarios a more people savvy GM might look to exploit. Established vets want to win, up and coming talent wants to shine. Great players do both.

            But to trade away any of the core for another young player doesn’t make sense to me. Trade for established talent or develop these guys and improve in the free agency pitch department. Re-evaluate in 2018.

    • For whom the bell trolls 5:30 PM on February 9, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Yes and yes

  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 3:56 PM on February 8, 2017 Permalink  

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    Okay, now I am bringing out the Big MJ!! Welcome aboard REAL MJ!

    PS-None us are drunk, just the Redeye effect, you know MM!

    PSS-Super nice was he, super nice!

     
    • AK27

      AK27 4:03 PM on February 8, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Cool…a moment or two of their kindness really made your day, eh Deej ? :)

    • Magic Phil

      Magic Phil 4:12 PM on February 8, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      That’s what I’m talking about

    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 4:55 PM on February 8, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Nice!

    • mclyne32 (Director) 5:44 PM on February 8, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Another great one, Deej.
      I feel so blessed to be able to meet my two biggest childhood heroes: Magic Johnson and Tom Morey.

      • DJ2KB24

        DJ2KB24 7:45 PM on February 8, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I can appreciate that, you know.

      • NBA4ever

        NBA4ever 8:41 PM on February 8, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Morey Boogie Boards! Grew up riding them in the summers by 38th street park in Newport Beach

        • mclyne32 (Director) 10:08 AM on February 9, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          I still bodyboard- mostly in the summertime because I have become allergic to cold water in my old age.
          This is why I will be retiring in Hawaii, or Puerto Rico.
          Newport has some good surf.
          I grew up riding the waves of San Clemente and Dana Point.

    • GDUBinDC

      GDUBinDC 6:54 PM on February 8, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      IDK, Deej … looks kinda photoshopped to me. Just kiddin’, my friend … nice pic. : )

  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 3:53 PM on February 8, 2017 Permalink  

    Image Post 

    Bringing out the BIG MJ!

     
  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 12:46 PM on February 6, 2017 Permalink  

    Just to straighten out a thing or two, on Clarky. Not sure why some always want him traded or he’s the bad guy. He is out shooting, Russ by 5%, also better than Nikki, and Lou. Can we just stop with the trade talk of JC? He gives as much or more ffort than anyone on the team, cepting Nance. Four years at 12 mil per is a steal.

     
    • John M.

      John M. 1:01 PM on February 6, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I’m with you. I don’t want to trade any of the young guys, but I guess JC would be more likely to go than some of the others, so I understand the talk.

      • keen observer

        keen observer 1:23 PM on February 6, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        It’s not that I don’t “like” JC or “want” him traded, it’s just that he’s inconsistent, pretty much is who he is with some room for growth and needs the ball in his hands to be effective. Lou Williams is paid $7 mil next season compared to Clarkson’s 12 mil and Lou can play next to pretty much any guard. I have no idea who would be interested in Clarkson, but I could see a guy like Andre Roberson (a RFA next season) replacing him on the roster. I do believe that Clarkson will continue to improve defensively and, in 2-3 seasons, still be a nice bench player, but when you analyze this roster and try to plug the holes, I think he’s expendable. His contract is NOT a bargain BTW; it is priced about right. So I’m with John M. The trade talk that I don’t understand is Lou Williams, whose contract IS a bargain and who brings so much to this team. He’s a pro’s pro.

        • John M.

          John M. 2:02 PM on February 6, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          The knock on Lou is he wants to win games :).

          • keen observer

            keen observer 2:05 PM on February 6, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            There are only a handful of guys in the NBA who bring what he brings off the bench and he only needs 24 mpg to do it. I keep saying he’s good at this level for another 5 years, which outlasts Clarkson’s contract and we own his Bird Rights after next season. He’s the bargain, not Clarkson.

    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 9:23 PM on February 6, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      A) I agree with you
      B) He’s got a pretty movable deal in the modern NBA. Has shown that he can the point decently enough or move to off guard. Improving his D. He tends to embrace a little too much ‘go it alone’ than seems necessary but then again, he’s one of the few guys with the ability to consistently get to the rim. If he can improve his passing game just a little bit he’s a solid player starting, off the bench, on a rebuild or a contender.
      C) I don’t think we end keeping every youngling. One or two will likely be moved by the deadline next season. Not a foregone conclusion but come this time next year, should they still be on the team, we’ll have a decent idea of the ceiling of Randle and certainly of Clarkson. Russell still has a little something to show us, I think. He’s starting to better use his passing and vision skills and he’s certainly not the first streaky shooter that’s ever laced them up. If he can get some easy buckets better using his size that would be cool, but he’s putting together a decent enough season.

      But I hope we keep JC, I like his vim vigor.

    • mclyne32 (Director) 8:29 AM on February 7, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Clarky is a VERY hard worker and has improved his game every year.
      I want him to remain a Laker, but if he’s packaged in a deal for an All Star, then so be it.

  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 7:28 PM on February 5, 2017 Permalink  

    As Reggie says, “Oh my goodnes!” What a game.

     
    • For whom the bell trolls 7:48 PM on February 5, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      biggest comeback and biggest choke of all time

      • p ang

        p ang 7:54 PM on February 5, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Yup. Ranks up there with blowing a 3-1 lead in the Finals.

        • tate793

          tate793 3:56 AM on February 6, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          And a few years earlier when Pop pulled Duncan in Game 6, and allowed Ray Allen to send the game to overtime, with a 3. Spurs were up 3 games to 2, with l0 seconds left in the game and a 3pt lead. Spurs shoulda fouled intentionally at some point.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44T6FYdLcLc

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