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  • tate793

    tate793 9:51 PM on February 14, 2017 Permalink |  

    Another case of “waste not – want not.” Missed 7 free throws and lost by a point. Also, allowed the opposition to snag out-of-position rebounds. Plus, we had no viable answer for stopping Boogie. Makes our roster needs crystal clear.

     
    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 10:16 PM on February 14, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Nope, nobody could contain him. He took them inside, outside, off the pass, had a few turnovers but overall a dominant game. I did think Tarik’s foul #6 was on the ticky tack side, all things considered in this game. But that’s not where this win slipped away. Those missed free throws are always hard to overcome for this team as it’s generally one of the more reliable ways in which they score. The team also had 17 turnovers to 22 assists so a rough slough on offense.

      Funny but neither Randle or Russell even played 25 minutes. Russell looked a bit gimpy in the third and if his knee is bothering him at all they should consider resting him.

      • Magic Phil

        Magic Phil 10:58 PM on February 14, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        There was a run on the 4th when DC was getting buckets…we needed to double him. I only watch the 4th quarter but could Mozgov have done a better job than Tarik?

        • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

          Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 11:12 PM on February 14, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          No, Cousins just drilled jumpers or found cutters against our slow guys and tokk it down low against smaller, quicker guys.. He bullied Mozgov, Zubac, Black and Nance, although Zubac barely played and was over-matched when he did. Boogie busted the Laker front court, to a man.

          • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

            Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 11:14 PM on February 14, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Yeah, not sure on that ‘not doubling him’ in the 4th, we closed the gap playing man, getting in lanes on sideline traps, contesting shots a bit better.

            • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

              Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 11:15 PM on February 14, 2017 Permalink

              But maybe hitting him with a couple quick doubles would have forced him into turnovers 7 and 8, who knows.

            • mud

              mud 11:22 PM on February 14, 2017 Permalink

              Boogie wasn’t the problem. i have to agree with Tate. make your freethrows, or even a couple more open jumpers and the Lakers win. i thought they played well. theyt also made a number of mistakes, but as with earlier in the year, they still aren’t giving up. these guys will get it together.

              probably.

            • MongoSlade

              MongoSlade 5:26 AM on February 15, 2017 Permalink

              Made or missed free throws don’t exist in a vacuum

            • mud

              mud 12:03 PM on February 15, 2017 Permalink

              ok, let’s complain.
              that will fix everything….

            • AK27

              AK27 2:31 PM on February 15, 2017 Permalink

              Yeah, cuz that’s what everyone’s trying to do here…fix the Lakers !

            • mud

              mud 4:32 PM on February 15, 2017 Permalink

              oh, my bad!

              trade, management and coaching suggestions minimized….

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 5:24 AM on February 15, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Boogie is a 1st team all-nba talent.
      Most teams don’t have anybody to contain him.
      Until we develop some kinda actual team defense we’re gonna always get torched by elite players

      • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

        Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 8:15 AM on February 15, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Good point mongo, I think I generally consider the guard penetration to be the bigger issue but last night we saw how a talented big man can pick our team apart.

        • Caliphilosopher

          Caliphilosopher 1:50 PM on February 15, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Just to add to your point Jamie -- Boogie can stroke a 3 now, and has enough moves to go from the 3pt. line straight to the bucket like a SF. He’s a real tough match-up for any team.

          • mclyne32 (Director) 2:42 PM on February 15, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Currently, I would give up entire youth “core” except for Ingram to get him.

  • tate793

    tate793 1:36 PM on February 12, 2017 Permalink |  

    ***The following 7 contributions submitted courtesy of GDUBinDC***

    (Bonus Track) : )

    R.I.P. Al Jarreau)

     
  • tate793

    tate793 9:40 PM on February 10, 2017 Permalink |  

    Julius and Deng don’t seem to be really bringing it, any more. Should give Robinson some burn.

     
    • p ang

      p ang 5:01 AM on February 11, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      tru dat. Or give Zu longer burns.

    • keen observer

      keen observer 8:55 AM on February 11, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Julius needs a little rest. He’ll be a beast next Tuesday. Luol simply hasn’t found his shot consistently all season. There was a stretch where I thought he was feeling comfortable, but then he fell off again. I still like what he brings, as STUPID as that might sound.

  • tate793

    tate793 10:16 PM on February 8, 2017 Permalink  

    Donald Trump: A man so obnoxious, that karma may see him reincarnated as himself.

     
  • tate793

    tate793 5:48 PM on February 6, 2017 Permalink  

    How about that LNJr!

     
    • For whom the bell trolls 6:31 PM on February 6, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      If he ever learns how to shoot, it’s the moon for him.

    • DJ2KB24

      DJ2KB24 6:58 PM on February 6, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Great! No Moz and very little Deng. Let them youngins play.

    • tate793

      tate793 7:22 PM on February 6, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Russell, Young, Ingram, Nance and Black
      Williams, Clarkson, Deng, Randle and Zubac

      • DJ2KB24

        DJ2KB24 7:44 PM on February 6, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        No need for Deng. Let Robby play.

        • keen observer

          keen observer 9:06 PM on February 6, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Why must you guys single players out to pick on? This was a great TEAM effort. Nothing more, nothing less.

        • mclyne32 (Director) 8:26 AM on February 7, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Exactly, Deej.
          Deng can sit the rest of the season.
          Blogger envy. LOL!!!!!!!!

          • keen observer

            keen observer 8:54 AM on February 7, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Deng played well last night. Solid veteran though. I’m glad he’s a Laker.

            • mud

              mud 5:18 PM on February 7, 2017 Permalink

              yeah, Deng is still a very good player.

    • tate793

      tate793 12:16 AM on February 7, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Seemed Luke kept the team focused, and settled, by judicious use of time-outs. Never let a Knicks run get out of hand.

  • tate793

    tate793 5:18 PM on February 4, 2017 Permalink  

    Wonder how many shots our kids are putting up in practice?

     
  • tate793

    tate793 7:50 PM on February 3, 2017 Permalink  

    We make our free throws, we win the game. That simple. Starters go 18-49 from the field, including 8-21 from deep. Starters only get to the line 6 times. Nobody can guard quick athletic guards. We need help. It ain’t about patience. It’s about misjudging talent.

     
    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 7:52 PM on February 3, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Dude…do you have any theories as to why Luke refuses to start Clarkson? It’s borderline nonsensical at this point…

      • For whom the bell trolls 10:17 PM on February 3, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        cuz he sucks

        • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

          Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 10:40 PM on February 3, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Who’s your least-despised Laker right now TM?

          • For whom the bell trolls 12:37 AM on February 4, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Huertas

            • keen observer

              keen observer 9:07 AM on February 4, 2017 Permalink

              How do you like the actions of your illegitimate so-called president so far, Trollman? I hope you’re as disgusted and embarrassed as most Americans of at least average intelligence.

            • For whom the bell trolls 9:18 AM on February 4, 2017 Permalink

              Fasten your seat belts it’s gonna be a bumpy ride.

            • AK27

              AK27 9:22 AM on February 4, 2017 Permalink

              So, how do you feel about ’em, Keen ?

            • Magicman (Editor)

              Magicman (Editor) 11:48 AM on February 4, 2017 Permalink

              Trollman, a bumpy ride?

              So certain? Are you Kin of Nostradamus? :)

            • keen observer

              keen observer 11:49 AM on February 4, 2017 Permalink

              The Supreme Narcissist has my head spinning!

            • AK27

              AK27 11:55 AM on February 4, 2017 Permalink

              Ah..so, it ain’t just “Americans of at least average intelligence” then..

            • Magicman (Editor)

              Magicman (Editor) 11:59 AM on February 4, 2017 Permalink

              Only the South believes in ” Alternative facts

            • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

              Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 1:54 PM on February 4, 2017 Permalink

              LOL! I love Huertas, I wish he could find a way to stick in the line up.

    • p ang

      p ang 7:58 PM on February 3, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I’m starting to doubt the talent of the coaching staff. Dang team looks like a D’Antoni’s Laker team. A poor man’s version at that.

      • For whom the bell trolls 10:28 PM on February 3, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        The very last reason to fire Jim and Mitch. Pretty boy Luke makes me yearn for the worst coach in history. Jeanie’s a moron, she’ll end beeching her way into making the franchise a spinster like she’ll end up. Magic, the “Trasher Man” now Jeanie’s executioner. It was with Dr. Buss’ blessing that Magic was excommunicated. What a fooking mess. Just sell the team. I’m done.

      • tate793

        tate793 1:05 AM on February 4, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        They apparently don’t feel the need to practice free throws, nor do they appear to have a decent shooting coach. Defense is porous -- whether by personnel or instructio, and no paint/rim protection. What he have here is potential, and, that’s about it.

        Julius can’t stay on the court, now, and Robinson hasn’t been on the floor forever. Maybe, it’s focus on the lottery time.

      • keen observer

        keen observer 6:47 AM on February 4, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Cracks me up. You guys were so predictable before the season and even more so now. Just chill. The Lakers showed a ton of heart yesterday. They are playing very good teams on the road and not getting blown out and making comebacks in these games. It’s funny, but in Washington, our fans p!ssed off the Wizards and ignited them and in Boston our players’ cheerleading pissed them off. All will be fine in time with this core. The coaching staff (Luke) is young and learning, too. You guys should start working on representing better IN HERE and quit demonstrating your childish impatience.

        • For whom the bell trolls 9:23 AM on February 4, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          That’s just me Keen, in the moment. You can preach patience all you want and be boring for 5 years, that’s you. Kinda boring in my book.

          • keen observer

            keen observer 11:51 AM on February 4, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Maybe “in the moment” isn’t always the best idea. Like YOUR President. It’s actually possible to patient, “in the moment,” critical and analytical all at the same time. Try it some time.

            • For whom the bell trolls 1:17 PM on February 4, 2017 Permalink

              Never

            • For whom the bell trolls 1:24 PM on February 4, 2017 Permalink

              And deny all you want he is your prez too but hey, I hear you can can get good money to protest nowadays funded by the radical left extremists like YOUR ex president.

            • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

              Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 1:53 PM on February 4, 2017 Permalink

              If you believe that TM I have a data center in Milwaukee I can sell you for CHEAP!

            • NBA4ever

              NBA4ever 3:29 PM on February 4, 2017 Permalink

              Tm you believe nonsense like that its no wonder you are a trumpster lol

            • For whom the bell trolls 3:51 PM on February 4, 2017 Permalink

              We have got to get into some political jousting sometime. Denial is not good for the soul.

            • Magicman (Editor)

              Magicman (Editor) 5:46 PM on February 4, 2017 Permalink

              “So long as they (the Proles) continued to work and breed, their other activities were without importance. Left to themselves, like cattle turned loose upon the plains of Argentina, they had reverted to a style of life that appeared to be natural to them, a sort of ancestral pattern…Heavy physical work, the care of home and children, petty quarrels with neighbors, films, football, beer and above all, gambling filled up the horizon of their minds. To keep them in control was not difficult.”

              ― George Orwell, 1984

            • For whom the bell trolls 6:13 PM on February 4, 2017 Permalink

              4 legs good 2 legs better
              George Orwell, Animal Farm

            • Magicman (Editor)

              Magicman (Editor) 6:28 PM on February 4, 2017 Permalink

              If you were a Pig, you wouldn’t be slummin’ it with me. Lol.

              Love ya friend. :)

            • Magicman (Editor)

              Magicman (Editor) 6:37 PM on February 4, 2017 Permalink

              More like Boxer, dude.

            • keen observer

              keen observer 6:59 PM on February 4, 2017 Permalink

              Trollman has obviously fallen prey to the propanganda experts. F*ck him and the horse he rode in on.

            • For whom the bell trolls 9:09 PM on February 4, 2017 Permalink

              luv me some Mark Levin

            • For whom the bell trolls 9:10 PM on February 4, 2017 Permalink

              And Sean, that 1984 reference is scary on target. Proletariat, one of my favorite words.

            • Magicman (Editor)

              Magicman (Editor) 10:37 PM on February 4, 2017 Permalink

              Trollman just threw a bullet pass…for the win. Lolol, hahahahahaha.

          • NBA4ever

            NBA4ever 9:29 PM on February 4, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Its scary because the target its on is you and you are the sheep being led to slaughter by bannon and his dumb puppet Trump and all the right wing malarkey that you read and listen to….all the while thinking its YOU that is “awake” when in reality you are being duped and most likely being hurt the most if you are that blind.

            • For whom the bell trolls 10:35 PM on February 4, 2017 Permalink

              get out of life lol

            • Magicman (Editor)

              Magicman (Editor) 10:37 PM on February 4, 2017 Permalink

              Hahahahahaha

            • Magicman (Editor)

              Magicman (Editor) 10:40 PM on February 4, 2017 Permalink

              President Bannon is a raving loon…no question.

    • GDUBinDC

      GDUBinDC 8:04 PM on February 3, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      They’re essentially a jump-shooting team which is fine if they’re hitting them, but when they’re not … well, u know the rest. D’Lo dribbles way too much and almost never attacks the rim and Jordan looks to launch a 3 almost as soon as he touches the ball. I guess it’s gonna require patience on our parts as fans, maybe a ton patience.

    • Magicman (Editor)

      Magicman (Editor) 8:16 PM on February 3, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Yeah…our PG got to the stripe once.

  • tate793

    tate793 4:36 PM on January 29, 2017 Permalink  

    What troubles me, more than anything, is that our players showed tremendous talent, and even more promise, in the beginning of the season than they display now. That 10-10 start (during which we lost a game, or two, that coulda gone either way), was encouraging, pleasantly surprising, and eye-opening. The future looked really promising. Since then, we’ve gone 6-24. Some have suggested that opponents have “figured out” our offense by watching game film. Yet other teams continue to win despite film being available on them.

    It was also said, in the beginning, that defense was a primary focus. We certainly seem to have lost any consistency with that. Defending the pick and roll, defending the perimetet and defending the paint are all areas in which we totally suck. Common sense should tell us that you can’t be successful with such a porous defense. If the players don’t get it, replace them with ones that do. If the coaches can’t develop that culture in the players, then replace them with ones that can.

    When you consider the revolving door of coaches, and players, during the last 5 years, it becomes painfully obvious where the problem really lies. Not so much in a person, as much as it is a propensityto neglect, or only give cursory attention to, those areas of concern – in favor of sprucing up the more glamorous offensive end of the floor. It’s not uncommon to see players shrug off getting burned on defense, inbound the ball content to embark on a “one-up”manship driven possession – while totally ignoring their inherent glaring defensive deficiency.

    The lackadaisical way in which Laket teams start 2nd halves, and sometimes, the beginning of the games, is attributed to what? The lack of enthusiasm, malaise, discontentment, brow-beat, has to have a source. A source that is apparently immune to the influence of million$$$, the bright lights of Hollywood and the LA Laker tradition.

    What on earth could be the probmem? What transcends all of the antedotes for what ails us?

     
    • mclyne32 (Director) 4:58 PM on January 29, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      A fish rots from the head down.
      Once again, it’s not going to get much better until we get actual basketball minds at the top making the decisions.

    • mud

      mud 5:00 PM on January 29, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      not ready for prime-time….
      at least not yet…

      building through the draft is slow and painful, but that’s how it is right now.

      as to the source, just look at the society. hard work is trumped by the need for gratification.

      Mitch Kupchak is a genuine basketball mind. he’s been vetted by Jerry West, considered to be one of the top basketball minds. there is no easy solution.

      • tate793

        tate793 5:55 PM on January 29, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        While I don’ t dispute the, or even question, the validity of Mitch’s BBIQ, I can’t see Mitch thinking that Mike D’Antoni would have been a better choice than Phil Jackson, to coach the Lakers. Neither would a brilliant mind like Dr Buss. Part of that brilliance was the realization that there were better suited minds, to conduct the day-to-day basketball operations, than himself. Ergo, the presence Jerry West, Mitch Kupchak, Bill Bertka, Rudy T., Phil Jackson, Ronnie Lester, Alex M, et al.

        There is no recourse for Mitch, in the event of a differing opinion with Jim Buss. Except, Jeanie Buss.

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 7:52 PM on January 29, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      The beginning of the season was a mirage…fool’s gold. New coach, new sets, new players, new energy; it all caught the league a lil bit by surprise. But the season is a lot longer than 20 games and once everybody got film on us adjustments were made and here we are. No counter-adjustment has come from our young boy wonder head coach. It’s a lil bit harder without Steph & Klay & Dray & Iggy &………

      I’ve become ambivalent about Jimmy & Mitch. They’ve done about as well as anybody else could have to start the recovery after the myriad of mistakes that began with the hiring of Dantoni. Might as let em finish I guess…

      • Magicman (Editor)

        Magicman (Editor) 7:54 PM on January 29, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        +1

      • keen observer

        keen observer 8:16 PM on January 29, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        What would the hiring of someone other than D’Antoni have done? Prevent injuries to Nash? Make Howard healthy, happy and speed up the recovery from his back injuries? Keep Pau from moping after he was traded for CP3 and prevent his injuries, too? Give me a break. Other then Kobe’s contract, nobody in here can go back to 2011 and show me a blueprint that would have put us any closer to our next championship, which is all that matters. Wallowing in medicrity would have had us even further from that.

        • MongoSlade

          MongoSlade 8:20 PM on January 29, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          When you have 2 of the better post players in the league on your roster, it just doesn’t make much sense to me to hire a coach who despises post play. But hey…that’s just me.

          • Magicman (Editor)

            Magicman (Editor) 8:40 PM on January 29, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Yeah…I doubt Mitch and Jim knew he’d express his views on that as freely as he did…What they call law of unintended consequences…

            BTW depends on the post player with him because he had no issues with Shawn Marion in the post or Amar’e Stoudemire…maybe D’Antoni had the same problems with Pau as Tate and other fans noticed. Jmo.

          • keen observer

            keen observer 7:36 PM on January 30, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Not the point, Mongo.

        • tate793

          tate793 1:05 AM on January 30, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          To answer your question, Mr. Keen, first of all, had Jim Buss not fired Alex, Nash would have never been signed, because Alex would not have vetted him medcally. Number two, there was no problem with Dwight’s health or recovery speed that hinddered his game. His stats in LA are dead on par with his career stats. Only problem there was MDA’s misuse and nonuse of Dwight and Pau, in the post. Plus the fact, that even with Nash on the floor, Kobe facillitated more often than Nash, actually tallying more assists per game. Again, a call made by Jim that was a bad decision. At the least, Nash should not have been signed with the back problems he had. If Jim hadn’t blabber-mouthed the trade news, prematurely, Pau would have been gone, and CP3 would have been here. If Jim Buss hadn’t hired MDA over Phil, Dwight would have still been here. A team that boasted CP3, Kobe and Dwight, coached by Phil, would certainly have been good for a couple more championships. FAs would have been interested. There’s your blueprint, Mr. Keen.

          Check and Mate, respectfully, Sir.

          • keen observer

            keen observer 7:03 AM on January 30, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Except that everything you just said is pure speculation, Mr. Tate. Nash was an all-star the prior season and by all accounts the entire basketball universe praised the signing/trade. The draft picks that were traded all turned into diddly squat and we’ll probably keep that #1 pick again this season. If we do, the likelihood of that pick turning into anything diminishes. As for Dwight, he was absolutely still recovering from his back surgery and we didn’t give up much for him either. It’s another trade that was universally praised. BTW, if we keep the Nash pick this season, somehow the Dwight 2019 pick turns into two second round picks. So you are wrong there, too. That was the first injury plagued season, so any talk about how MDA used them is nonsense and Mitch Kupchak was in agreement about D’Antoni and Kobe praised him as “an offensive genius.” As for Jim “blabber mouthing” the trade news, I have read different accounts of that, but remember that there were three teams involved in the CP3 deal, so the idea that it somehow leaked from Jim Buss is extremely questionable. Finally, you are really going out on a limb when you say that a team of CP3 , Kobe and Dwight would have “certainly been good for a couple of championships.” If you think that would have happened, then you are actually PRAISING Jim Buss for pulling off the CP3 deal (if you subtract the wild assumption that he somehow botched that deal). Your blueprint is absurdly flawed, Mr. Tate. Hell, you pretend that LeBron James, OKC and the Spurs didn’t even exist, never mind the rise of the Warriors. Keep dreaming. Keep hating Jim Buss.

            • AK27

              AK27 7:37 AM on January 30, 2017 Permalink

              Even if Jimbo did prematurely announce the trade, I am not sure why folks seem certain that the deal wouldn’t have been nixed anway..

            • Magicman (Editor)

              Magicman (Editor) 9:41 AM on January 30, 2017 Permalink

              Great point, Amit.

        • AK27

          AK27 1:55 AM on January 30, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Yeah, no difference could possibly have been made by hiring someone other than D’Antoni…then why didn’t the Lakers FO just pick the coach by throwing a dart ? screw deliberation and all that bs, right ?

          Just…dumb..


          , nobody in here can go back to 2011 and show me a blueprint that would have put us any closer to our next championship

          Yes, they can’t ..cuz it’s not their job to have the requisite information..and let’s apply the same standard of proof to your horse$hit…you want to jump down the throat of anbody who dares to criticize the FO and claim that nothing they could have done woulda made a significant difference ? then outline EVERY other possibility besides what actually happened and prove that it simply couldn’t have resulted in a better outcome…and please don’t just say “2011 CBA, nixed CP3 deal, high payroll”…it doesn’t constitute sufficient proof…

          • keen observer

            keen observer 7:36 AM on January 30, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Speak English, toddler.

            • AK27

              AK27 7:38 AM on January 30, 2017 Permalink

              Lol…nitwit..go back to school !

            • keen observer

              keen observer 9:54 AM on January 30, 2017 Permalink

              OK

          • NBA4ever

            NBA4ever 11:48 AM on January 30, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            If keen were defending Trump instead of Jimmy I’d be convince it was actually Trump in here posing as keen to defend himself LOL!

            • AK27

              AK27 11:51 AM on January 30, 2017 Permalink

              :D

          • tate793

            tate793 8:41 PM on January 30, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Absent the angst of the small market owners, immediately after the birth of the CBA , there would be no scimitar hanging over the neck of Stern. No reason not to approve the trade. It was a favorable trade for NO. Certainly better than what they ultimately ended up with.

            No speculation, Mr. Keen. Just common sense. Maybe Dwight wasn’t completely healthy, but, as I pointed out, his stats were on par witn his career numbetd -- not that it matters a hill of beans.

            How does what the picks turned into make me wrong, Mr. Keen?

            • Magicman (Editor)

              Magicman (Editor) 8:44 PM on January 30, 2017 Permalink

              Except for the fact the trade led them to win the Lottery rather than compete for a Playoff spot…that was the end game.

              It was malicious genius, Deone. Stern did the same thing for the Knicks. #WeknowthetruthDavid

              The irony of trying to recruit Anthony Davis to the Lakers when he demands a trade shouldn’t be lost on any of us considering the kind of influence Kobe has on his young friend. :)

        • tate793

          tate793 8:56 PM on January 30, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Pau’s “injuries” were all unverifiable soft tissue, convenient explanations of poor performance. .

    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 10:38 PM on January 29, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Yeah, it is disheartening. But these are also very young people. Where I diverge from some is I would have no issue whatsoever if 2/3 to 3/4 of our youthful talent walked out the door in favor of a top 5 player at their respective position. Because you trade youth for proven every time.

      We’ll see, hopefully a little break does everyone good and they come back, and more importantly maintain, that sharp focus and passion we saw earlier in the season.

      • p ang

        p ang 1:42 AM on January 30, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Yes!

      • AK27

        AK27 10:07 AM on January 30, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I would have no issue whatsoever if 2/3 to 3/4 of our youthful talent walked out the door in favor of a top 5 player at their respective position

        Sounds like a fella “giving up” on the young bucks, doesn’t it, keen ?

  • tate793

    tate793 6:42 PM on January 28, 2017 Permalink  

    Could Russ, Durant and Harden coexisted in the starting lineup, if they had the chance?

     
    • Magicman (Editor)

      Magicman (Editor) 6:47 PM on January 28, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Nope.

      • keen observer

        keen observer 7:23 AM on January 29, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        They co-existed well enough to go to the NBA Finals when they were young players, so why not?

        • Magicman (Editor)

          Magicman (Editor) 8:33 AM on January 29, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Yes they had success that resulted in in a expeditious rise…I’m hoping our young players can attain a similar level of achievement in the near future…

          The one issue with the Thunder was Harden’s change of heart…he decided that he did not want to come off the bench, he wanted to become a starter…it wasn’t a fluid situation at that point…

          Kevin Durant as we know, went to the Warriors sacrificing stats for the team…Are we to believe he wasn’t willing to do that in OKC? I’m not inclined to agree, I think he was…

          It will always be a hypothetical in terms of them coexisting…the Thunder panicked overthinking the Cap issue…and you’d have to convince “one of those guys” to sacrifice…One of them did with coming off the bench, one already has sacrificed touches and shots…the other player hasn’t shown a willingness to do either…

          That’s why to me, it wasn’t a workable symbiotic relationship on the court.

          • keen observer

            keen observer 10:18 AM on January 29, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            You’re probably right. This is where a great coach matters though, which is why I say that if Pop or Phil were their head coach, or even Coach K, they would not only have co-existed, but could have won many, many championships. We’ll never know.

            • Magicman (Editor)

              Magicman (Editor) 10:55 AM on January 29, 2017 Permalink

              Couldn’t agree with you more here.

              Which is why I’m happy as a fan we have great ownership that won’t panic when it’s time to bear down and make a tough decision…

              I understand fans frustration..In a Cap league it’s the scouting that’s the lifeblood and teams that don’t have structure ( Knicks, Kings top of the list) sow seeds of horrible mismanagement and drift further and further into the Woods…

              It looks like we’re lost…we have a compass though :)

            • keen observer

              keen observer 4:11 PM on January 29, 2017 Permalink

              Great post, Sean.

    • keen observer

      keen observer 6:54 PM on January 28, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      With Phil Jackson or Gregg Popovich as their head coach, absolutely.

    • NBA4ever

      NBA4ever 6:54 PM on January 28, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      As i was watching another jaw dropping performance by Harden(not just his scoring but he was dropping ridiculous dimes too) last night i realized i cant get over the fact that they never even gave that possibility a chance. I feel cheated as a fan….between the dirty way they stole them from Seattle and robbing me as a fan I hope they never win one.

      • Magicman (Editor)

        Magicman (Editor) 6:55 PM on January 28, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Nice to see you’ve changed your mind about him

        • NBA4ever

          NBA4ever 6:59 PM on January 28, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          He took it to another level last year and Dantoni has taken him to another level beyond that. Most impressive of all has been his court vision and his ability to thread the pass like some of the all time great passing point guards.

          I was wrong about him but right about Melo lol :)

          • Magicman (Editor)

            Magicman (Editor) 7:01 PM on January 28, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            You are 100% right about Melo. I WAS SO WRONG there. :)

    • tate793

      tate793 7:57 PM on January 28, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      So, a back court of Westbrook and Harden would dominate like Curry and Thompson?

      • Magicman (Editor)

        Magicman (Editor) 8:44 PM on January 28, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        In the case of any great dynamic duo, as you know like all of us, Deone, someone has to be willing to defer their greatness as an individual for the greater good…

        In the Splash bros…that’s Klay…Kobe deferred to Shaquille for a few years for the benefit of winning rings…

        In the case of Russ and James…they rarely played together, James usually ran the point with the bench in OKC…

        Now, they did play together at the end of games…and James was (unfairly) singled out as a scapegoat when the Thunder lost in the Finals…

        It was easier for Presti (optics) to disband the group. Russ and KD got to the Western Conference once and lost in 7 games to the Warriors.

        Would James have made a difference! We’ll never know and because the OKC brass value profits over winning neither will they.

        • MongoSlade

          MongoSlade 8:49 PM on January 28, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Folks always forget that Harden turned down 4yrs $55mill before he was traded. He wasn’t trying to play 3rd wheel.

          • Magicman (Editor)

            Magicman (Editor) 8:50 PM on January 28, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Yup. They do bro.

            Like Drake once said, Know ya self know ya worth. :)

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 8:01 PM on January 28, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I don’t think any of those dudes woulda been satisfied as the 3rd option.

  • tate793

    tate793 7:15 PM on January 27, 2017 Permalink  

    The Kind Of Class That’s Hard To Find Anymore 

     
  • tate793

    tate793 6:29 PM on January 27, 2017 Permalink  

    “Jim Buss, scion of the late and great Dr. Jerry Buss, runs basketball operations and under his guidance this team has been a disaster. I would write here he has to go, but he has already made the point for me. He has said repeatedly that if the Lakers aren’t contenders this season — championship contenders, folks — he would step away.

    His sister Jeanie runs the whole Lakers show and has the power to remove her sibling and take the helm of basketball ops, or put someone else in place. She told me last year, along with a lot of other L.A. media, that she would do so if at the end of this 2016-17 season the Lakers hadn’t made huge progress.

    In our conversation, she was clear 2017 couldn’t just end with a Lakers playoff appearance. They had to contend in the playoffs, too, making at least a semi-deep run. So stick to the plan. Jim Buss has to go. Jeanie Buss has to take over. And then the Lakers can finally start playing catch-up against teams like the Sixers that are now years ahead of them.”

    http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/lakers-or-sixers-not-even-a-question-now-and-the-lack-of-a-plan-in-l-a-is-startling/?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=dlvr.it

    Replacing Jim with a more estute and charismatic VPOBO would create a greater likelihood of FA interest. In addition, it would also abate the negative (whether justified, or not) atmosphere immediately surrounding Jim. Even greater, and more significant, than locket room chemistry is FO chemistry.

    Lobby for Magic and the Logo to return.

    Make everybody happy!

     
    • DJ2KB24

      DJ2KB24 7:22 PM on January 27, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Yep

    • keen observer

      keen observer 8:40 PM on January 27, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      That won’t make a difference. Y’all are delusional. Sorry, Mr. Tate.

      • tate793

        tate793 9:56 PM on January 27, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I will accept your apology Mr. Keen. I understand your need to express yourself thusly. However, I do feel that the presence of Jim Buss, along with his decision making, has been, and will continuue to be, a hindrance to the development of the franchise. I don’t believe the players (on our team, or, potential FAs) respect or like him. He has exhibited an ineptitude for decision-making that has set the franchisr back 10 years. His wise father, having left the ultimate control of the franchise in his sister’s hands, could very well have created a point of contention, with Jim, and served as a motivation for sabotage. He’s been far more damaging to the team than the 2011 CBA, payrolls, or Stern’s debauchery.

        • keen observer

          keen observer 7:29 AM on January 28, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Why is it that everyone chooses to give Mitch Kupchak a pass? Eric Pincus, an actual beat writer, has tweeted several times that Kupchak has as much or more decision making power as any GM in the league and that Jim Buss essentially rubber stamps his decisions. It is true that they work side by side, but from what Pincus says, Kupchak’s the one who makes the decisions. I agree that Jeanie should clean house and that the front office needs fresh, new blood, but enough of bashing Jim Buss. The idea that he’s been more damaging to the team that the 2011 CBA and other factors is pure opinion based on scapegoatism. This “they stink, therefore he stinks” is childish and ignores reality. Reality is a lot more than the sh!tty record. A LOT more. Such as star players want to play for elite teams, not rebuilding teams. But yeah, clean house. Whatever.

          • MongoSlade

            MongoSlade 9:29 AM on January 28, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Jimmy put his own head on the chopping block

            • keen observer

              keen observer 1:23 PM on January 28, 2017 Permalink

              Whatever.

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 7:06 AM on January 28, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I really don’t think Magic is the answer. Sure..a great PR move but he’s got no clue about the day in -- day out, nuts & bolts grind of the job. Also..Jerry West is damm near 80 yrs old and just got outta the hospital. He was already a wreck when he left town 15 yrs ago…probably not the answer either. Personally I don’t see Jimmy stepping down and it’s gonna take alotta balls for Jeanie to remove her brother & ownership partner. But if it happens they better have a stud already lined up. I’d love to see some fresh blood…Not sure who’s available though. You can’t bump Ryan West all the way up to team president can you?

    • tate793

      tate793 12:45 PM on January 28, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Mr. Keen, I have no need to “scapegoat” anyone. Jim’s arrival in that position was accomplished all by himself. Mitch would not have announced the CP3 trade prematurely. He knew better, and knew smaller venues would b*tch, from experience. Mitch did not make asinine comments to Jerry West regarding something he knew nothing about. Mitch would not have tried to pair MDA with the old plowhorse roster, and snubbed Phil and thereby losing the services of Dwight and Pau for naught and LO for peanuts. Mitch would not have dismissed the loyal and long-time support staff. No, these are all the brain children of a guy that thinks dropping out of USC and going to jockey school is the way to go.

      • tate793

        tate793 12:50 PM on January 28, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Magic’s value as a basketball mind, and “a face for players to relate to” is immeasurable. West is doing fine for GS he can do fine for LA. If he was a wreck 15yrs ago, you couldn”t prove it based on his contributions in Memphis and Oakland.

        • MongoSlade

          MongoSlade 1:05 PM on January 28, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Magic and/or Jerry as consultants only.
          You can read summa Jerry’s interviews and other accounts of what a mental toll LA was taking on him back in the day. Can’t imagine it would be much better as he’s approaching 80 and witb possible health issues. Definitely not a long term solution.

          The best guy for the job. (and Mitch’s as well) is probably some young dude that nobody outside of basketball circles has ever even heard of.

          • tate793

            tate793 1:13 PM on January 28, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Memphis’ forays into the playoffs and GS’s back to back Finals were just as pressurd packed and stressful. All I”m saying is it would be an improvement over Jim Buss.

            • keen observer

              keen observer 1:25 PM on January 28, 2017 Permalink

              Jim Buss, Jim Buss, Jim Buss, Jim Buss, etc, etc, etc.

              Coins have two sides to them, Mr. Tate. Respectfully, you have ignored the MUCH bigger picture for way too long.

          • MongoSlade

            MongoSlade 1:24 PM on January 28, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            There’s no pressure like the limelight of LA. Bring him in as a glorified consultant (which is basically his job in GS) but he’s not up to running the entire operation. If you’re gonna bring in a guy that’s only gonna last a coupla years then you might as well keep Jimmy.

            Gotta remember too…he has an ownership stake in GS as well.

  • tate793

    tate793 10:00 PM on January 26, 2017 Permalink  

    We dug ourselves too big of a hole in the 1sr qtr. Certain players played like s#it and we were called for more twice as many fouls as they were = a 12pt advantage for them. Oh well. It sucks.

     
  • tate793

    tate793 10:23 PM on January 25, 2017 Permalink  

    Same old 3rd qtr malaise. Starters, except for Nick, suck. 2nd unit keeps the games within reach. This game shows why Byron sat Julius. Double/double machine when he wants to be. Luke should start Robinson next game. Might light a fire under him.

     
    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 11:10 PM on January 25, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I’m not sure Luke will make the wholesale lineup changes coach Scott did. Maybe when the playoff picture is all but extinguished but I’m sure there’s some good old fashioned youthful exuberance in that locker room, yet.

      Julius flashed that confident jump shot but followed it up with a lot more unhinged possessions and some blown D. Luke certainly did yank him in the 4th with 2+ minutes left. That can be as much of a lesson as anything, but who knows. Anything is possible.

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 7:42 AM on January 26, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Biggest problem is winning games or getting close to winning games on the backs of Lou Williams and Nick Young is not going to help this team get back into championship contention. I would love to see the Lakers try to trade their league best bench (Williams and Young) to 76ers for Nerlens Noel and the removal of the protection in this year’s draft pick, which would then give the 76ers our unprotected 2018 pick and save us our 2019 pick.

      We get Noel to anchor the center and give Zubac time to develop and we draft Lonzo Ball. Ball, Russell, Ingram, Randle, and Noel would be the Lakers team of the future and we would still have Clarkson, Nance, Deng, Nance, and Zubac as second unit. The key is to get Philly to remove the protection for this year so we do not have to go through the lottery. Might be worth even giving up Clarkson, Williams, and Young. for Noel, Stauskas, and McConnell, and removing the protection on our pick for this year.

      • tate793

        tate793 10:16 PM on January 26, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        The problem I see is that drafting a future superstar is far from a done deal. We had 3 consecutive lottery picks (Julius, DLo, Ingram) + 3 seemingly star role players (Clarkson, LNJr, Zubac), a former 6MOY, (LouWill), a couple of big motor guys (Black and Robinson) the CBOY (Nick), your savior and dream coach, Luke -- AND WE STILL SUCK!

  • tate793

    tate793 6:26 PM on January 22, 2017 Permalink  

    Bwahahaha…. 

     
    • GDUBinDC

      GDUBinDC 6:31 PM on January 22, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      : D

    • DJ2KB24

      DJ2KB24 6:32 PM on January 22, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Well, but it ain’t Mitch or Jimmiboy’s fault!!!! They givin all they got, uh, well, that ain’t good at all either, hmmmm

    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 6:37 PM on January 22, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Audible chortle followed by a snorting guffaw.

      Byron sipping tea on the porch and laughing.

      But that’s none of my business.

      Not sure if Luke’s steadfast insistence in bringing Clarkson off the bench is helping things at this point, especially if D’Angelo is out for the full, or more, 2 weeks. Might be time to try a major shake up.

  • tate793

    tate793 6:14 PM on January 22, 2017 Permalink  

    Luke Walton: ‘Frustrating’ Effort By Team In Worst Loss In Lakers’ History 

    Tim McMahon ESPN Staff Writer

    DALLAS — The Los Angeles Lakers’ rebuilding project reached a new low Sunday afternoon with the most lopsided loss in franchise history, a 122-73 rout at the hands of the Dallas Mavericks.

    “We didn’t show up to play, honestly, which is frustrating,” first-year Lakers coach Luke Walton said after the 49-point drubbing. “Honestly, it’s embarrassing for us as a team and for us as an organization, for our Laker fans that are so good to us.

    “Again, at this point it is not about every night going out and winning. It is playing a certain style that allows you a chance to win while we are trying to build this thing. It’s about getting better and building on games like our last game, and not being satisfied with it. …

    “The effort just wasn’t there tonight, which I don’t understand. I love our group of guys and I know we are going to bring it next game, but that’s not who we are. It was frustrating tonight.”

    The previous worst margin of defeat in Lakers history was 48, which occurred in a 123-75 loss at Utah last March. This was the most lopsided game in the NBA this season.

    The loss came on the 11-year anniversary of Kobe Bryant’s historic 81-point performance against the Raptors, the second-most points scored by a single player in a game in NBA history.

    The Mavericks (15-29) extended their winning streak in the series to 13 games, blowing the game open by outscoring the Lakers 38-11 in the second quarter. Los Angeles had more turnovers (five) than field goals (four on 17 attempts) during the quarter.

    “Tough game. That’s it,” said guard Jordan Clarkson, one of only two Lakers to score in double figures during the loss. “A loss is a loss.”

    The Lakers (16-32) have dropped six of their last seven games. Four of those losses have come by double digits, including a 40-point loss to the San Antonio Spurs and Sunday’s historic humiliation.

    Lakers power forward Julius Randle said his team should be embarrassed by the poor effort. There was not a consensus opinion in the locker room about whether the Lakers should simply move on from the loss as quickly as possible or try to use it for motivation.

    “We’ve got to let it go,” shooting guard Nick Young said. “It’s a tough loss, but we can’t dwell on it. We’ve still got, how many more games left? Thirty-something? Forty-something? We’ve just got to keep going. We can’t let this one determine the whole year. We’ve got to keep fighting.”

    Rookie Brandon Ingram, who struggled as the starting point guard in place of injured starter D’Angelo Russell, offered a dissenting view.

    “It’s something for us to remember as these games go on,” said Ingram, who finished with six points on 2-of-12 shooting, with no assists and three turnovers while being a team-worst minus-45 in 36 minutes. “We let it hurt now and keep getting better and always remember the results.”

    The Lakers are only one win away from matching last season’s win total. They got off to a surprising 10-10 start, briefly fueling hope that they could compete for a playoff spot well ahead of the expected timetable, but are only 6-22 since then.

    Walton, however, firmly insisted that he has no concerns about his team’s culture despite the losses stacking up and Sunday’s horrible performance.

    “Not at all,” Walton said. “We’re headed in the right direction. We’re going to get to where we need to go and I’m excited about it. It’s just a bad game, one you face the pain and you use it to motivate you and move on.”

    http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18533899/los-angeles-lakers-suffer-worst-loss-franchise-history

     
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