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  • MongoSlade

    MongoSlade 9:44 PM on February 15, 2017 Permalink |  

     
    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 9:51 PM on February 15, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Luke in his post game chat talked about the privilege of simply putting on an NBA uniform. Would not refer to it as a game, used ‘that’, whatever that was’ and such for most of his interview when describing tonight’s affair.

      • GDUBinDC

        GDUBinDC 9:55 PM on February 15, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Sounds like Coach Walton may have been disgusted with last night’s effort … or lack thereof.

    • tate793

      tate793 12:14 AM on February 16, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Effort is a huge part of success. The lack of it leads to “L”s. At this point, players and coaches can hide behind the “tank” theory. No call for Deng to be on the floor for 23 minutes while we get killed on the boards 36-59. Robinson could have filled those minutes. The starters went 14-48.Luke nreeds to find a shooting coach, or demand that his players exert the effort necessary to improve their marksmanship.

  • MongoSlade

    MongoSlade 5:53 PM on February 14, 2017 Permalink |  

     
    • Magic Phil

      Magic Phil 6:23 PM on February 14, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      For who? Lou is due to $7mi this year and same next year (correct me if I’m wrong).

      A bargain. I know, he’s not part of the future but…can DAR or anybody else learn from him how to draw those fouls?

      • DJ2KB24

        DJ2KB24 7:00 PM on February 14, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Man, let’s not trade him for cheap. he’s one Vet I would keep unless we get major value. Same with Nikki.

      • MongoSlade

        MongoSlade 7:33 PM on February 14, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Gotta get to that #2 spot if they want a shot at Lonzo.
        It’s a combination of getting something for a guy whose value has never been higher and also trying to tank without it being so obvious. Lou isn’t part of the 3 to 5 year plan….

      • keen observer

        keen observer 8:39 PM on February 14, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Everyone says “I know he’s not part of the future.” Someone please convince me that he doesn’t have about 5 good years left at this level. Look at his career minutes. Look at his career numbers. He’s got a ton of mileage left and he keeps getting better.

        • MongoSlade

          MongoSlade 9:04 PM on February 14, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Doesn’t really matter what any of us think or say.
          The fact that they’re shopping him is the proof.

          • keen observer

            keen observer 9:49 PM on February 14, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            If a rumor is proof of anything at all.

            • tate793

              tate793 9:59 PM on February 14, 2017 Permalink

              They’re also shopping the kids.

            • AK27

              AK27 12:48 AM on February 15, 2017 Permalink

              a general manager told me

              Doesn’t sound like it’s just a rumor…unless Kennedy is known for throwing stuff like that around as if it were factual…

              Lou is good but you’ve been touting him as if any notion of trading him would be laughable ‘cuz he’s destined to continue at this level for another 5 years…do you have data to back that up ? Not just Lou’s numbers but of comparable players who ended up playing at a high level into their mid 30s ? If he’s so great and likely to be good long enough to be a part of our future, why do you think the Raptors let him go AFTER he’d just won the sixth man of the year ?

              Perhaps even the good folks in the Lakers FO can’t see what you see..or their copy of the “patience and vision” memo got lost in the mail…

            • keen observer

              keen observer 10:48 AM on February 15, 2017 Permalink

              The data is his below the rim style of play, his low mileage compared to many players his age and his annual improvement. It may just be my opinion, but it also seems to be basic common sense. As for the Lakers front office, they won’t give him away for a bag of chips. As for the “GM told me” thing, that could also mean that the otherwise passive Mitch Kupchak is getting calls on Lou and then making calls to other teams. Who knows.

            • AK27

              AK27 11:39 AM on February 15, 2017 Permalink

              Keen, the qualitative factors suggesting that Lou won’t fall off a cliff anytime soon are pretty darn obvious..I’m not saying he will…thing is, 5 years is a long time and you seem very certain of your belief…that’s why I asked if you could make your argument more precise with data on players with a trajectory similar to Lou’s at this point…

              As for trading the man, well, why would Mitch be making calls at all if it didn’t make any sense at all ? Assuming Kennedy ain’t lying, “shopping him around” would indicate interest on their part even though you have consistently dismissed the idea of trading Lou as being laughable…. the old “our FO knows better than you !” bit isn’t as much fun when you’re not the one throwing it at others, eh ?

              As for the Lakers front office, they won’t give him away for a bag of chips
              Do you see anybody on the blog disagreeing with that ? Lou is a good player and I’m pretty sure the Lakers aren’t looking for a bag of chips….

            • keen observer

              keen observer 1:15 PM on February 15, 2017 Permalink

              I am certainly no expert on the longevity of players, but Lou Williams has never played 30 mpg in any season during his career and his best 3 seasons have been his most recent 3 seasons. Sure, these have been during normal “prime” years, but with a career 23.5 mpg average and his below the rim style of play, I can see him being productive into his mid to late 30’s in a similar manner to players like Jamal Crawford or Andre Miller. He relies on savvy more than anything and has just gotten better at it. What irks me is that he is a legit fourth quarter player, an absolute must on any winning team, and as of now we certainly don’t have any of those type of absolute musts on our roster.

              I have never implied that anyone here wants to trade him for a bag of chips. I am just perplexed why anyone in here would want to trade him at all right now.

            • AK27

              AK27 1:51 PM on February 15, 2017 Permalink

              Well, you have the right remain perplexed, Keen…that just doesn’t make the idea of trading Lou laughable…looks like the FO folks you spend so much time defending might also disagree with you on this one…and, given that Lou didn’t even get an offer from the Raps after making it clear that he wanted to stay, I’d say they aren’t the only ones not as fond of the fella as you…

              Your comment on Lou’s longevity wasn’t a crazy one….and yet the demand for proof increases in light of cocksure comments like the one below..

              WTF are you talking about? Everyone b!tches about overpaying free agents, but when we have one on a bargain, you want to trade him. Laughable.

            • keen observer

              keen observer 2:20 PM on February 15, 2017 Permalink

              Thank you for resurrecting one of my more poignant posts.

              As for you comment about me defending the front office, that’s an exaggeration. It is very true that forces beyond the front office’s control are the primary reason why we are where we are for the most part, but I don’t defend them at all costs as you have implied.

            • AK27

              AK27 2:23 PM on February 15, 2017 Permalink

              Whatever helps you deal with being wrong…

            • keen observer

              keen observer 2:24 PM on February 15, 2017 Permalink

              Wrong about what?

            • AK27

              AK27 2:26 PM on February 15, 2017 Permalink

              Too dense..re-read the exchange if you have to…slow..

            • keen observer

              keen observer 2:48 PM on February 15, 2017 Permalink

              Guess so.

  • MongoSlade

    MongoSlade 4:05 PM on February 14, 2017 Permalink |  

    Jeanie shoulda just went ahead n fired Jimmy & installed Magic in his place. All Magic’s back n forth wavering comments ain’t a good look…perpetuates the image of instability in the front office. Gonna be just as bad if Jimmy stays on with Earv looking over his shoulder. Just rip the bandaid off and get it over with. This dude ain’t coming in just to be a consultant. .

     
    • keen observer

      keen observer 8:42 PM on February 14, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Then someone else who none of us know much about will be the new scapegoat.

    • mclyne32 (Director) 9:52 AM on February 15, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I agree, Mongo.

  • MongoSlade

    MongoSlade 3:39 PM on February 14, 2017 Permalink |  

     
  • MongoSlade

    MongoSlade 8:41 AM on February 14, 2017 Permalink |  

     
    • bltkmt

      bltkmt 8:45 AM on February 14, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Cue Lebron’s bitching.

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 9:54 AM on February 14, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Cue a Melo for Kevin Love trade.

      • DJ2KB24

        DJ2KB24 10:28 AM on February 14, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Perfect deal for both. Love can sit out the rest of this season.

        • keen observer

          keen observer 11:28 AM on February 14, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Love for Calderon and Mozgov. Who says no? :)

          • Caliphilosopher

            Caliphilosopher 11:49 AM on February 14, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Haha Dan Gilbert? :-)

          • DJ2KB24

            DJ2KB24 12:31 PM on February 14, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            “Not I,” said the Cat. All 4 it. Probably Cali has it right though.

            • keen observer

              keen observer 3:22 PM on February 14, 2017 Permalink

              I’m trying to act civil being as though I am on double secret probation. Not fun!

            • LakerTom (Publisher) 3:36 PM on February 14, 2017 Permalink

              Thank you. We all appreciate it.

            • Seely_Iggy (Director)

              Seely_Iggy (Director) 4:26 PM on February 14, 2017 Permalink

              Hang in there, Keen. You can do it.

            • keen observer

              keen observer 8:41 PM on February 14, 2017 Permalink

              Seely, it truly sucks not being able to speak freely. I’m boring now.

            • AK27

              AK27 1:04 AM on February 15, 2017 Permalink

              Shackled, his “truth” stifled, he’s a renegade no more…gone before he could lead others into the light, a silent crowd now cries a river inside…a tragedy if ever there was one

              Take away the license to be an azzhole and he’s suddenly Nelson Mandela…

  • MongoSlade

    MongoSlade 8:34 AM on February 14, 2017 Permalink |  

     
    • GDUBinDC

      GDUBinDC 9:52 AM on February 14, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Depending on how well Serge plays, that could prove to be a good deal for the Raps come playoff time.

  • MongoSlade

    MongoSlade 11:56 AM on February 10, 2017 Permalink |  

    Gotta begin to wonder if Porzingis is gonna hang around that crapfest in NY or take less money to get da hell outta there. I probably know more about the financial ins & outs of this thing than Magic but he needs to get up to speed. Handle yo bizzness Earv!

     
  • MongoSlade

    MongoSlade 2:29 PM on February 9, 2017 Permalink |  

     
  • MongoSlade

    MongoSlade 6:50 PM on February 8, 2017 Permalink  

    Err’body ain’t the Knicks…

     
    • DJ2KB24

      DJ2KB24 7:26 PM on February 8, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Yeah, Detroit played very nice “D” that kept us off balance. Couldn’t get our 3’s going. Had 21 TO’s and only 21 Dimes. Detroit set a season record foe their dishes. I still think we should adjust the PT for anyone playing well. Seems like Luke wants no one to play over 30 minutes. Don’t quite understand when we have so many young legs?

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 7:34 PM on February 8, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Did we have 5 guys who actually played well?

    • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

      Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 8:48 PM on February 8, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Nope.

  • MongoSlade

    MongoSlade 3:07 PM on February 6, 2017 Permalink  

     
    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 3:09 PM on February 6, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Those free agent signings are looking better & better.
      -sarcasm

    • CSTracy10

      CSTracy10 3:18 PM on February 6, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      No “close” star was coming our way regardless. Our best bet is to get a pre-prime star a a Harden before he went bonkers in Houston. Gotta sell the vision and the new system under Walt.

      • MongoSlade

        MongoSlade 3:54 PM on February 6, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Moz was our “#1 Target”.
        Now he’s on the pine.
        I got no problem signing 3rd & 4th tier talent if that’s all we can get. But 4yrs guaranteed? And who’s gonna trade for these guys when they can’t even start on a bottom 3 squad?

      • MongoSlade

        MongoSlade 5:04 PM on February 6, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Oh..wait
        Our #1 Free Agent Target is now 3rd string?
        Lovely

        • DJ2KB24

          DJ2KB24 8:15 PM on February 6, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Preaching to this choir my friend.

        • mud

          mud 9:37 PM on February 6, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          so what?

          • keen observer

            keen observer 6:36 AM on February 7, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Do you ever hear the Moz/Deng complainers talk about what a bargain Lou’s deal is or the fact that we have our youngsters for cheap? No. Nick Young is also a deal this season. All you hear about are the overpaid FA contracts as if we’re the only team in the NBA to do that and the guys we didn’t sign. They never mention the size of the new cap either and that these contracts are a percentage of that. So what is right.

          • AK27

            AK27 8:35 AM on February 7, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            so, perhaps he isn’t “exactly the player Lakers intended to hire” anymore…

            • keen observer

              keen observer 10:48 AM on February 7, 2017 Permalink

              So what.

            • AK27

              AK27 11:05 AM on February 7, 2017 Permalink

              Try another question…make sense this time..

        • mclyne32 (Director) 8:27 AM on February 7, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Once again, Mongo, you are correct!

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 3:19 PM on February 6, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Glad to see Tarik getting a chance to start over Mozgov.
      He has earned the chance. Good moves by Luke.

      • John M.

        John M. 3:42 PM on February 6, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        He seems to match up well with somebody named Kyle O’Quinn, who is taking the injured Noah’s
        spot.

        • keen observer

          keen observer 4:11 PM on February 6, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Glad to see a couple of fans staying away from the obvious and focusing on the positive..

          See above.

  • MongoSlade

    MongoSlade 2:47 PM on February 6, 2017 Permalink  

     
  • MongoSlade

    MongoSlade 4:33 PM on February 2, 2017 Permalink  

    I think Magic gets way too much credit for the Dodgers recent success. He merely a familiar, wildly popular LA frontman for the faceless Guggenheim conglomerate. He ain’t making a whole lotta baseball decisions there.

    He’ll have much more say in this role though. One added benefit will be his presence in the room during free agency. I can imagine guys trying hard to stay awake while Jimmy & Mitch are speaking…not exactly what you’d call high energy dudes. Even Luke has a laid back 94.7 The Wave smooth jazz manner about him.

     
    • Magicman (Editor)

      Magicman (Editor) 4:38 PM on February 2, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Magic can put his 5 Ring Boxes as a Player on the Table and another 5 as an Executive. Agreed, MS.

  • MongoSlade

    MongoSlade 12:37 PM on February 2, 2017 Permalink  

    Bye Bye Jimmy

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 1:17 PM on February 2, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      The bigger question is whether this will change Jim and Mitch’s approach to the rest of the season. They could decide to make a move they might not have considered before Magic’s hire. Going to be like a guillotine hanging over Jim’s heads.

      • keen observer

        keen observer 1:17 PM on February 2, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        It would not surprise me if they were asked to resign sooner rather than later.

        • LakerTom (Publisher) 1:21 PM on February 2, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Don’t think that will happen but this does create a kind of lame duck situation. Either way, not a good move for the Lakers in my opinion. I don’t see Magic as helping the franchise move in modern directions. Hope I am wrong but this smacks of trying to reach into the past than move into the future.

          • keen observer

            keen observer 1:26 PM on February 2, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            I think he’s more progressive than you are giving him credit for. Look at the Dodgers and how quickly he not only learned his lesson, but how quickly he was able to help turn things around after his initial mistakes. As long as he uses his business acumen to assist in hiring the right people, he can be a tremendous asset. That’s how I see it, but I could be wrong. One thing is certain. He is a Jim Buss Hater, which is why I think Jim’s days could be over sooner than after the season. Not so sure about Mitch. Maybe after the trade deadline for both of them. Why wait?

            • LakerTom (Publisher) 1:28 PM on February 2, 2017 Permalink

              Trying to make a mid-season GM change would be harder than during the offseason. The one benefit, however, would be less uncertainty this summer. In the end, I think Jim is gone and doubt Mitch would want to work for his replacement, who would likely be the GM.

            • keen observer

              keen observer 2:33 PM on February 2, 2017 Permalink

              I don’t know how they would structure it, but they could simply hire a GM and not do anything with Jim’s position. I think that would essentially fall to Magic, who I would guess would simply rubber stamp the GMs decision, wihch is essentially what’s been going on for years with the Lakers anyway. Jim is probably involved in the day to day operations more than Magic would be, but it’s clear that Mitch has always had wide latitude as the GM. People just find it easy to blame Jim Buss for everything. I can see where you see a sticky wicket though.

      • MongoSlade

        MongoSlade 1:47 PM on February 2, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I don’t see any move made over the final 30 games that’ll make a whole lotta difference to their job status. Kinda feels like they’re already in lame-duck status with Magic being brought in and they might be hancuffed from doing anything major without approval from higher up the chain (Jeanie/Magic)

        • mclyne32 (Director) 2:51 PM on February 2, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Well said, Mongo.
          Jeanie and Magic aren’t dummies.
          I’m sure they already have a list of the GM’s they will be considering.
          Now we have a face of the franchise who both fans and players LOVE and RESPECT.
          The winds of change are blowing and I could not be happier.

    • mclyne32 (Director) 2:49 PM on February 2, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

  • MongoSlade

    MongoSlade 2:35 PM on January 30, 2017 Permalink  

     
    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 2:36 PM on January 30, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      We may end up keeping the pick, but it won’t be intentional. This dude is still talking about playoffs…

      • Magicman (Editor)

        Magicman (Editor) 3:00 PM on January 30, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Meathead- dead from the Neck up…as I was told once.

      • mud

        mud 3:02 PM on January 30, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        as it should be(about keeping the pick, not meatheadism)

      • NBA4ever

        NBA4ever 3:17 PM on January 30, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        He can’t be serious? If so I just lost a lot of respect for Luke. Nothing worst then no self awareness individually or collectively.

        • AK27

          AK27 8:55 PM on January 30, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Here’s what he said..

          “The further we get away from actually having a chance to make the playoffs, then the more you got to really start to put some thought and focus on developing the young guys even more,”

    • John M.

      John M. 3:05 PM on January 30, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Isn’t elimination a simple equation?

    • tate793

      tate793 5:46 PM on January 30, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Judging by the existence, and, placement, of the quotation marks, I wonder if the “Tricky part is assesing when Lakers technically are out of playoffs” is actually Medina’s brain child.

  • MongoSlade

    MongoSlade 1:15 PM on January 29, 2017 Permalink  

     
    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 1:16 PM on January 29, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I wonder if that would allow us to get out of that contract.

      • MongoSlade

        MongoSlade 1:17 PM on January 29, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Pull your panties outta your azz….it’s a joke. ..

    • DJ2KB24

      DJ2KB24 1:29 PM on January 29, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      All kidding aside, it is a problem for some NBA players that leave the USA, will they be allowed back into USA?

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