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  • Magicman (Editor)

    Magicman (Editor) 3:37 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink |  

    That young buck with the Cajun accent interviewing Russ was funny.

     
  • MongoSlade

    MongoSlade 3:32 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink |  

    I’m starting to wonder if our front office n ownership is too risk averse to operate well without a superstar already in pocket. 2 decades of Kobe may be too engrained in the culture.

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 3:34 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Not sure I understand, Mongo. If that were true, wouldn’t they have made a deal for Boogie?

      • MongoSlade

        MongoSlade 3:38 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Boogie is a risk.
        It’s easier for them to stay the course.
        Same thing they were doing before Kobe forced their hand in 07

        • DJ2KB24

          DJ2KB24 4:04 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          I think what Meghan sings, “It’s all about the Doc, bout the Doc….”

        • MongoSlade

          MongoSlade 4:30 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Dr Buss was standing pat with Smush n Slava too…lol

          • p ang

            p ang 4:33 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Dr. Buss had a plan. And it worked.

            • keen observer

              keen observer 7:52 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink

              Yeah. Hire good basketball people. He was generally hands off, but is now canonized by today’s ingrates as a basketball genius. He was a MARKETING genius and left basketball to the basketball people. he was there as a friend, a shoulder to lean on and a closer in certain situations. His grand plan was to make basketball into entertainment, not just a game. When he bought the team, Magic Johnson was available to him as a #1 pick, pretty much a no brainer for those of us who were basketball fans in 1979 and then he lucked into a few things, like James Worthy. Read Showtime. It wasn’t just a “plan.” There were bumps in the road, too. The current state of affairs happened to be his exit plan. Toward the end, while he still had the final say on decisions, it was more Mitch and Jim running the show. So you can immortalize him as much as you want and his rings deserve that, but don’t think that even a younger Jerry Buss would have us anywhere near a chip or in contention since the 2011 CBA.

            • MongoSlade

              MongoSlade 8:09 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink

              I think he re-signs Kobe at half the price Jimmy paid him.

            • Magicman (Editor)

              Magicman (Editor) 8:15 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink

              We’ll never know. The Good Doctor would have never wanted his children having a Civil War over Ego.

              As for Kobe or anything else concerning Dr.Buss, it’s speculative and unfair to intimate what Doc would do. Let the man rest because if he knew what was happening, I don’t think he’d be able to.

            • p ang

              p ang 8:17 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink

              Dr. Buss overruled Jerry West. West didn’t want to take Magic at 1.

              So yup, no brainer.

          • MongoSlade

            MongoSlade 4:36 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Naw…they were all fine staying the course until Kobe blew up the spot.

            • DJ2KB24

              DJ2KB24 5:05 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink

              Uh, and with that followed 2 more rings. Not Alternative Facts.

            • MongoSlade

              MongoSlade 7:24 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink

              I don’t think it happens without Kobe threatening to walk.

    • Magicman (Editor)

      Magicman (Editor) 5:05 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Fair observation given the state of affairs.

      • DJ2KB24

        DJ2KB24 5:07 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        MM, was wondering why some refuse to see that we have had 2 losing seasons twice since 1961, uh, until our last 4 in a row. We haven’t sniffed PO’s since Kobe gave us his entire body. 2013.

        • Magicman (Editor)

          Magicman (Editor) 5:23 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          True Deej…

          It’s been hard, we’re in a different era. Different players, different financial environment…

          There were 9 teams in’61.

          There were 17 teams in ’71.

          There were 23 teams in ’81

          There were 27 teams in ’91

          Expansion made the competition less fierce now. And we had the lion’s share of talent. Less player movement in Free Agency and 12 Rounds of Draft, made the pool of talent more deep.

          A lot of mismanagement, two Rounds of a Draft, a Cap League…you have a bad Lotto Pick, Deej, miss on a few a Big Fish, you start swimming against the Tide.

          I don’t need to tell you what it means swimming against a Tide, sir. We both know, you can drown, doesn’t mean you do, but it happens.

          • DJ2KB24

            DJ2KB24 5:58 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Just hope that life raft floats by. Ya know, “We all float on.” Moddy Mousers

            PS-I’m old, but love the Alternative music of today! When Wifey and I hit the clubs with Fitz or Saint Motel or Borns and the kids say “what you and grandma doing here?” I say, “kickin yo can all over the place.” LOL Nah, they are always sweet to us actually. : )

            • Magicman (Editor)

              Magicman (Editor) 6:15 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink

              I like Modest Mouse. :)

              You a music a Lover, Deej. Heck with age when it comes to music. Just a number anyway. Heck with ’em. :)

              http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x35lqma

              Met these boys on the Redhead Beach, when we were travelling through New South Wales They were Surfing and threw a Beach Party.

              Really dig the tunes.

          • Magicman (Editor)

            Magicman (Editor) 6:24 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            • DJ2KB24

              DJ2KB24 6:53 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink

              Both awesome stuff! I feel for so many of these groups that cannot get the recognition they should have. We hope to see Coin, Weezer, Spoon, Cage the Elephant, Capital Cites (saw them once), Needtobreath, Nathaniel Rateliff, Foxygen and others at Louisville, Ky this summer at their Festival.

            • Magicman (Editor)

              Magicman (Editor) 7:04 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink

              Awesome!

              A regular Bob Dylan amd Joan Baez Doppelgänger:)

            • DJ2KB24

              DJ2KB24 7:07 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink

              Saw Bobby D a few years back. No Joannie though.

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 3:31 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink |  

    Lakers are refusing to part with Russell & Ingram 

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 3:33 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Looks like Lakers are willing to give up Randle but not Russell or Ingram. That’s smart. Russell and Ingram are both not even 21 years old yet and were #2 picks overall. Have to keep them. Randle’s is a great prospect but poor fit at 4 because of his inability to spread the floor. That’s why you can give him up in return for a great 2-way player who would fit perfectly with Russell and Ingram.

      • mclyne32 (Director) 3:44 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        They all like to handle the ball- I don’t get how that’s a perfect fit.

        • LakerTom (Publisher) 5:27 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          They give the Lakers their perimeter trio of the future with Russell at the 1, Butler at the 2, and Ingram at the 3. Adds outside shooting and paint attacks on offense and a stopper on defense. Butler would be perfect for the Lakers … unfortunately, even more for the Celtics.

    • mclyne32 (Director) 3:39 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Jimmy Butler is twice as good as Russel and will have a much better career.
      This is p*****g me off now.
      Russell isn’t athletic, he pouts, doesn’t play any defense, and has to be told to pass when he’s supposed to be LEADING this team.
      F’ing joke.

      • LakerTom (Publisher) 6:07 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        He’s a 20-year old kid whom the franchise would be stupid to trade because he has the skill set to be an All Star point guard. His problem like most 20-year olds is consistency. I’m disappointed just as you are in D’Angelo’s play and wonder whether it is his knee causing him to become passive. But the glimpses he has shown in spurts of dynamic playmaking and clutch shooting are the real deal. That’s why the Lakers won’t trade him or Ingram. Too much risk for a reward that could be a curse. Let’s talk about trading Russell for Paul George. Not DeMarcus Cousins. Or Jimmy Butler either. D’Angelo still has a chance to be great. He won’t be Steph or Kobe or Westbrook but he could be Harden or Lowry or Lillard.

        • tate793

          tate793 6:35 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Anyone who wouldn’t trade Russell for Butler is bats#it crazy. Many players show “spurts” but spurts don’t make stars, let alone super stars. Boogie and Jimmy are already there. Russell isn’t even on the road. Plus, his knees are suspect. And, no, he’s not in Dillard’s league, either. In his second year, he was putting up 20.7 pts, 5.6 assists, shooting .394 from behind the arc, .871 from the line AND WAS AN ALLSTAR. All this after being ROY.

    • keen observer

      keen observer 4:11 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      THIS IS A FAKE TWITTER ACCOUNT.

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 3:27 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink |  

    Lakers Trade Rumors: Los Angeles Targeting Jimmy Butler 

    After balking at the Kings’ high asking price for DeMarcus Cousins, the Los Angeles Lakers have reportedly turned their attention to Bulls’ shooting guard Jimmy Butler.

    If you’re reading this article as a new fan of the Los Angeles Lakers, welcome! We’re not as fun as the Sacramento Kings, but we’ve won a championship within the last decade for what it’s worth. I’m sorry they hurt you, but we’re now. We’ll take care of you.

    The trade that sent DeMarcus Cousins to the New Orleans Pelicans Sunday night was huge but it was only the start of what promises to be an exciting week of trades leading up to the NBA trade deadline on Feb. 23. Fans are hoping the Lakers are one of the many teams that will be active at the trade deadline and so far, it’s looking like they will be. With just three days left before the trade deadline, the Lakers have been involved in several trade rumors, including the Cousins sweepstakes.

    However, the Lakers reportedly backed out of talks with the Kings when they asked for rookie Brandon Ingram as part of whatever package LA was giving them. Now the Lakers are turning their attention to Chicago Bull’s guard Jimmy Butler, according to Mike Adamle of NBC Chicago.


     
    The rumored trade includes Lou Williams, Jordan Clarkson and Julius Randle, with no indication that Ingram is involved in the deal. Former Rookie of the Year Michael Carter-Wiliams is also rumored to be part of the trade.

    This trade makes a little more sense for the Lake Show than the Cousins trade. The Lakers need a shooting guard to play alongside D’Angelo Russell and Brandon Ingram, preferably one that plays defense. Fans thought Jordan Clarkson would be that player, but he has struggled mightily in his third season with the Purple and Gold.

    While it will be tough for LA to part ways with Julius Randle, who looked like a future All-Star at the start of the season, they have some insurance in Larry Nance Jr. Nance is arguably more polished than Randle right now and could easily slide into the starting power forward position.

    As for Williams, he was rumored to be on the trading block anyway. Whether it is the Bulls or the Wizards, he is almost guaranteed to be on another team after the deadline.
    Any trade the Lakers can pull off without giving up either one of their No. 2 picks is a decent trade. Obviously, gutting the young core for an All-Star isn’t ideal, but if a trade like this one went through, it wouldn’t be devastating to the roster.

     
    • mclyne32 (Director) 3:28 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      At this point, I would give two of the youngsters not named Ingram plus filler for him.

      • LakerTom (Publisher) 3:30 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Randle, Clarkson, and Williams is a fair price for Butler.
        I wouldn’t include either Russell or Ingram.
        Unfortunately, we don’t have any picks to sweeten the deal.

      • Magicman (Editor)

        Magicman (Editor) 3:31 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        We could offer that. If the Greenies offer the 1st Pick, can’t hold it against our FO, if they get him. No one can whine about that.

      • MongoSlade

        MongoSlade 3:36 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Clarkson’s play has probably hurt his trade value this season. This is where our lack of “crapshoot” draft picks is hurting us. Teams want 1st rounders in THIS draft…not 2021

    • mclyne32 (Director) 3:41 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      If the need a first rounder, Lou should have already been traded for one.
      These guys move so slowly- this is one of the reasons why they haven’t been able to get ANYTHING done.

      • MongoSlade

        MongoSlade 3:47 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        We ain’t getting anybody of consequence right now without giving up DAR or Ingram. Maybe both. That’s starting to become clear.

        • mclyne32 (Director) 3:50 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          At this point, I would give up either Ingram or DAR for Butler.
          He’s worth it.
          Eventually, we need to get a few good players in here who are actually good, not just prospected to be.
          It would be much easier to get other good players this summer if we already have a guy like Butler here.

        • MongoSlade

          MongoSlade 4:34 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          I agree but i just get a feeling that upper management is hamstrung by the past & their ingrained tendancies. Seems like they prefer to err on the side of caution.

  • keen observer

    keen observer 3:26 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink |  

     
    • Magicman (Editor)

      Magicman (Editor) 3:32 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Wasn’t aware of that. I wouldnt have posted had that info been known.

      Thanks, keen.

      • keen observer

        keen observer 4:16 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I fell for it, too, but as you know, I’m naturally dumb.

  • Magicman (Editor)

    Magicman (Editor) 3:22 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink |  

    WORLDSTARHIPHOP‏ @WORLDSTAR
    Just a reminder that the Kings had DeMarcus Cousins, Hassan Whiteside and Isaiah Thomas on the same team.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/WORLDSTAR/status/833809102350536704/photo/1

     
    • keen observer

      keen observer 3:23 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      It’s very nice of you to TRY to make the Lakers fans in here feel better about our team, Sean. Nice effort!

    • Magicman (Editor)

      Magicman (Editor) 3:25 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      And let them all go for nothing!

      Whatever we think of our team, of the Knicks, of the Rams, of the Braves…

      The Kings are an inept Franchise that doesn’t recognize talent when it falls from the Sky!

    • mclyne32 (Director) 3:37 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      CP3
      Lowry
      Thomas
      Whiteside

      All wanted to be here and could have if we didn’t have a bumbling failure at the wheel.

  • keen observer

    keen observer 3:18 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink |  

     
  • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

    Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 2:57 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink |  

    The Kings Got Fleeced In The Cousins Trade | FiveThirtyEight 

    Word broke late Sunday night why DeMarcus Cousins played only two minutes in that evening’s All-Star game: He’d been traded. The Sacramento Kings and New Orleans Pelicans agreed on a deal tha…

    Source: The Kings Got Fleeced In The Cousins Trade | FiveThirtyEight

     
  • Magicman (Editor)

    Magicman (Editor) 1:32 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink |  

    Isaiah Thomas‏ @Isaiah_Thomas
    I don’t even think @NBA2K would let that trade happen even with the trade override option off LOL

     
  • keen observer

    keen observer 1:17 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink |  

    I forgot about this. LOL! 

     
  • LakerTom (Publisher) 12:57 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink |  

    Lakers Trade for Jimmy Butler 

     
    • LakerTom (Publisher) 1:00 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      That’s a trade I would do. Butler would be perfect fit at the 2 alongside D’Angelo and MCW and Young would then man the second unit.

      • keen observer

        keen observer 1:09 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        The potential perimeter defense with Butler and Ingram is exciting, BUT I hate to be a true Betty Bummer; I think the Celtics will make a better offer for Butler and use this fake news as leverage. Adamle is reporting that the Celtics are still in talks with the Bulls.

        BTW, look at Lou’s PER on our terrible team! Imagine him on a contender? That’s where I think he’s headed. I don’t think he’s headed to the Bulls.

        • LakerTom (Publisher) 1:42 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Yep, it’s those unprotected first rounders that Ainge stole form the Nets for expiring stars that give them the big advantage over everybody.

          • Magicman (Editor)

            Magicman (Editor) 1:57 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            If it was a matter of parting with that, you’d think it would have gone down already.

            He wouldn’t include a Terry Rozier for a Boogie and that was what killed the deal?

            Fishy, Danny has always been fishy.

          • Magicman (Editor)

            Magicman (Editor) 1:59 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Ainge turned down Ibaka,for an inclusion of Rozier to. Smh.

            • DJ2KB24

              DJ2KB24 2:36 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink

              Hey MM, Celts seem to be doing way better than us. Green was never my favorite color though!

            • Magicman (Editor)

              Magicman (Editor) 2:58 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink

              They’ve made the Playoffs, Deej…yup, right about that.

              They’re no closer to 18 than we are to 17 though.

            • keen observer

              keen observer 3:22 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink

              If we had traded Kobe, Pau, LO and Bynum in 2011, we’d be in the same position.

            • MongoSlade

              MongoSlade 3:25 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink

              They’ve got a legit mvp candidate and draft picks up the yin yang. They’re light years closer than we are.

            • Magicman (Editor)

              Magicman (Editor) 3:29 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink

              Might make the Conference Finals or might lose in the 1st Round.

              Not a contender yet…if they grab Jimmy, then yup.

            • MongoSlade

              MongoSlade 3:41 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink

              We got the 3rd worst record.
              Light Years

    • DJ2KB24

      DJ2KB24 2:26 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Toss in the Bulls 1st Rounder.

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 12:53 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink |  

    Lakers going after Jimmy Butler after trade talks for DeMarcus Cousins fell apart? 

    The Los Angeles Lakers weren’t willing to part ways with rookie Brandon Ingram to make a trade with the Sacramento Kings for DeMarcus Cousins. In the aftermath of Cousins trade talks breaking down, the Lakers may have turned their attention to trying to acquire Jimmy Butler of the Chicago Bulls.

    According to Mike Adamle of NBC Chicago, the Lakers brass have started talking to the Bulls with the NBA trade deadline approaching on Feb. 23:

    Unlike the deal for Cousins in which the Kings insisted on receiving Ingram in exchange, the Duke product would not be involved in this trade for Butler nor would D’Angelo Russell, via Adamle:

    Currently, Adamle is the only one reporting this trade rumor. Butler has been linked to the Lakers in the past, and the Bulls have been going back and forth on whether their star is available leading up to Thursday’s deadline.

    If Butler is available and can be had for the trade package mentioned, it would be hard to argue the deal shouldn’t be made immediately. Butler would be a massive upgrade for the Lakers and would bring in the star player the team has sorely been lacking since Kobe Bryant’s departure last April.

    Over the next few days, there’s bound to be more trade rumors that surface involving the Lakers as the team appears to be as active as anyone in the league right now.

     
    • Magicman (Editor)

      Magicman (Editor) 12:58 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Butler is a more interesting asset. Not sure you give up the ghost here, either. But the conversation of a two-way player, makes it compelling.

    • keen observer

      keen observer 1:34 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I just took a look at that twitter account. It hasn’t tweeted since December 2013 until now. It looks official, but I think it’s a Lakers fan trolling, Celtics fan trolling fake. Makes sense.

  • Magicman (Editor)

    Magicman (Editor) 12:45 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink |  

    Mike Adamle‏ @TheMikeAdamle

    REPORT: Butler is involved in the LAL – Bulls trade talk. Lou Williams, Jordan Clarkson, & Julius Randle have been brought up – MCW as well.

     
    • keen observer

      keen observer 12:46 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Interesting. Mitch is obviously trying to get the Celtics to up their ante, assuming that this isn’t fake news.

      • Magicman (Editor)

        Magicman (Editor) 12:51 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Exactly right, keen.

        Recent hints dropped by sources across the league suggest that Gar Forman and John Paxson won’t give up their franchise player for anything less than a king’s ransom. Celtics president Danny Ainge can still offer the same pieces from the teams’ trade talks last year, but Butler’s value has increased. His “max” contract is now arguably the most team-friendly deal in the NBA, and he’s under said contract through 2019. He’s also an even better player than he was last season.

        http://sportsmockery.com/2017/02/nba-insider-celtics-upping-offer-jimmy-butler-bulls/

        • keen observer

          keen observer 1:10 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Sean, you are my favorite “enemy” by far! :)

          • Magicman (Editor)

            Magicman (Editor) 1:13 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            The enemy of my enemy is my friend, or something like that.

            I respect you, that will never change. :)

            • keen observer

              keen observer 1:16 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink

              #Resist #Peace

            • Magicman (Editor)

              Magicman (Editor) 1:23 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink

              For all things, yes, I agree.

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 12:44 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink |  

    Funny how narratives change when it’s convenient 

     
  • LakerTom (Publisher) 12:44 PM on February 20, 2017 Permalink |  

    Buss, Kupchak Made the Best Move by Doing Nothing 

    Let’s just say the Lakers did trade for Boogie. They would have had to have sent some combination of two young players, including Ingram, a filler and a future pick. Maybe they send Ingram, Julius Randle, Lou Williams, and a future first-rounder. Then what?

    Best case scenario the Lakers have a starting lineup with D’Angelo Russell, Nick Young, Luol Deng, Larry Nance Jr. and DeMarcus Cousins. Is that a team contending for a title in the next five years? Unless everyone over the age of 22 retires at the end of the season, probably not.

    My guess is the Lakers would win 30 games to close the 2016-17 season, followed by an admirable 37-win season next year. Two seasons without playoff basketball?

    Boogie’s leaving in free agency. Meanwhile, Ingram and Randle are leading the Kings to their first playoff berth in over a decade.

    Dramatic? Perhaps. Far fetched? Hardly.

     
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