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  • LakerTom (Publisher) 7:50 PM on January 21, 2020 Permalink |  

    Lakers Need to Learn from Losses! 

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 7:52 PM on January 21, 2020 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      “While you never want to take too much from a single loss, especially one in which the Lakers clearly did not. as head coach Frank Vogel put it, “bring it,” losses often expose matchup weakness that just don’t show up in wins.

      “That was clearly the case in the Lakers’ 139–107 drubbing by the Celtics in Boston last night. While the Lakers for whatever reason did not show up, the loss clearly highlighted the team’s two most pressing roster problems. Offensively, the Lakers need a playmaking scorer who can create shots for himself and for teammates when LeBron sits. Defensively, they need better wing defenders to guard bigger elite scorers like Tatum and Hayward.

      “The challenge for Rob Pelinka and the Lakers’ front office is how to fix two major roster problems when you only have one trading chip and every team in the league is looking for a playmaking scorer and elite wing defender. Realistically, the Lakers are going to have to get both creative and lucky to solve both problems. They will need some team to trade them what they need for Kyle Kuzma and strike gold in the free agent and buyout markets.”

    • p ang

      p ang 11:43 PM on January 21, 2020 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      As composed I’d take the Lakers in a 7 game series. Against anybody.

      It’s a problem but its not a Major one. Not one that will stop the team from a chip.

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 8:36 AM on January 22, 2020 Permalink |  

    Lakers losses so far this season: 

  • Worthy42

    Worthy42 4:28 AM on January 22, 2020 Permalink |  

    Did I miss some drama? Where is Magicman Sean?

    • therealhtj

      therealhtj 7:17 AM on January 22, 2020 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Self-Imposed Exile. Considering he’s in Canada, is that an oxymoron? (yup, I’m baiting you Seannie)

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 8:00 PM on January 21, 2020 Permalink |  

    Derrick Rose belongs on a contender and could end up on one this season 


    To this point, 2019-20 had brought a shockingly low amount of Derrick Rose trade scuttle, considering how well he’s performing for the Pistons, how poorly Detroit’s season has gone so far and how team-friendly his contract is. That changed on Monday with a report that a few of the league’s top contenders – the Lakers, Sixers and Clippers – had expressed interest in the former league MVP.

    Averaging 18.3 points and 5.9 assists per game this season while shooting over 50 percent from the floor and, most importantly, staying relatively healthy, Rose makes the perfect trade candidate for playoff-caliber teams who feel they need additional scoring and playmaking off their respective benches. Rose’s contract situation, which has him earning $7.3 million this season and $7.7 million next season before hitting free agency in 2021, also makes the 31-year-old extremely appealing on the trade market.

    • p ang

      p ang 11:44 PM on January 21, 2020 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I always like DRose. He was, however, a FA and Rob didn’t bother then so I doubt he’d bother now.

    • therealhtj

      therealhtj 7:16 AM on January 22, 2020 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      THT, Salary Filler, and a future 2nd.

  • Lakers Fast Break

    Lakers Fast Break 6:52 PM on January 21, 2020 Permalink |

    Lakers Fast Break- On the Road Again with LakerTom! 

    LakerTom from lakerholics.net is back to talk about the rest of the Grammy Trip (after Boston), the Clippers game on the horizon, and the continued debate over whether a Kuzma trade should and will happen.

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    Thanks, Lakerholics as always for your support and “Go Lakers!”

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 6:50 PM on January 21, 2020 Permalink |  

    It’s official: Superman will take flight at the 2020 Slam Dunk Contest! 

    • p ang

      p ang 11:47 PM on January 21, 2020 Permalink | Log in to Reply


      If they won’t vote him to the ASG he’d find his own way there. As Madonna said: The guy just wanna have fun.

      • Buba

        Buba 12:54 AM on January 22, 2020 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I thought the song says, girls wanna have fun?
        Anyway, I treasure that song. And I am talking about a song in troves. Let the guys have fun too. Isn’t that some fun?

    • therealhtj

      therealhtj 7:15 AM on January 22, 2020 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Goal #1: Don’t get hurt
      Goal #2: Don’t embarrass yourself out there old man

  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 3:35 PM on January 21, 2020 Permalink |  

    Congrats to DJ2 Hall of Fame!! Also Larry Walker.

    PS-Jete got all but one vote? Why that Voter is a HOF Voter is beyond me? Sheesh!

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 6:50 PM on January 21, 2020 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      That voter should be banned and taken off the list of voters. Shame on him.

      • Buba

        Buba 12:02 AM on January 22, 2020 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Tom, I think you are being kind in your expression. I would be willing to crucify that dumb voter more. DJ was one of my favorites. Too bad he’s retired. I would have wanted to watch him 24/7. What a classy guy he is. Yes, that voter must be living in the past. I would have given that dumb voter a death sentence if I am a judge, knowing how DJ made me love baseball. That’s treason right there in my book.
        I used to go to braves games whenever he comes to town, including Alex Rodriguez. It used to be fun for me.
        “That voter should be banned and taken off list of voters”? I say, take him off life support as well, because he’s really sick.

  • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

    Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 2:05 PM on January 21, 2020 Permalink |  

    5 Things 

    That was a dud of a basketball game. While it’s never fun losing to the Celtics it’s even worse when the loss highlights each and every single one of your deficiencies. At any rate, it’s over..for now.

    1) No small ball line up of note. I know Frank has said all the right things and sometimes he even trots out what looks to me like a small ball line up. The fact that the SB line up is so terrible is a fairly major concern. For small ball to work somebody has to make shots, preferably threes. At 7-26 from three we did not make the shots needed to open up the middle. As a result the small ball line up was the one on the floor in the 3rd when the Celtics basically ran us out of the building and the game was never really in question after that

    2) No identity when LeBron sits. This will be huge come the playoffs when a 5-6 minute stretch can decide a game. Rondo’s not really up to the task. He can’t get past his man into the paint and if he does the defense rarely collapses. Against playoff teams it won’t. This is why I still expect the Lakers to make some kind of move. There is a real need for a playmaker that can actually make plays besides LBJ.

    3) Did not handle the rebounding battle well. Every Celtic starter had an offensive rebound and Kanter had a whopping 6. As it was we got killed on the glass 48-36 and that fueled the Celtics transition game where they blew us away 25-11. But last night continued a recent trend of too many second chance points, as well. We had zero quarters where we held them under 30. Dwight was solid, as he has been, but the rest of our bigs simply got outplayed and the team didn’t do much of anything at all to help them out.

    4) A changing of the guard. Not sure what’s up with Alex Caruso but the dude might need a bit of a break. He’s been a step slow on D, missing shots all over the place and has even been griping at the refs as a result. That’s not the Alex Caruso Laker fans saw to start the season. Quinn Cook is the better scorer and needs to be featured in any small ball line up we trot, in my opinion. Caruso and Rondo together is a space issue waiting to happen and that kind of feels like an easy fix.

    5) When superstars play like mortals. LeBron had another mere mortal game and AD looked rusty. The team didn’t do a whole helluva lot to prop them up and, honestly, they may not really be up to that task on most nights, especially when the playoffs roll around. it’s why I think the Clippers and Kawhi are smart to do just about everything in their power to keep him as sharp but physically sound for the playoffs. If LeBron starts breaking down in March or April this could get real ugly real fast because when he’s off there’s nothing behind him to elevate the rest of the team. AD will get there but I don’t think he’s anywhere near 100%, either.

    All in all, it’s one game and we let the Celtics push us all around for about 3 and a half quarters of basketball. Losses like this have been the outlier, not the constant. However, our record against rangy tough teams is abysmal and that’s a big time playoff issue. It’s almost a lock that one of the Celtics, Bucks or Raptors is coming out of the East (IMO, of course) and those kind of lineups are bad match ups for us. Not sure Iggy, Collison or any player we have the ability to acquire is enough.

    • Buba

      Buba 8:57 PM on January 21, 2020 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I have never seen these Lakers so lackadaisical this season. What went wrong and what went right? There is nothing much to talk about this game and if you have errands to run, you are better off. If you choose to even watch this game up to end of the fourth quarter, you know you don’t have much to do. The Lakers simply came out flat in this game.
      No energy at all, no hustle at all ( got ourebounded, points in transition?). Call 911 to report being robbed by Celtics madmen? Nah. Those Celtics seemed like a one man crew against the Lakers even though they won’t sniff the Eastern Conference Finals.
      Is it because the Lakers felt so good about their drooling over their blowout over the Rockets on their home court without AD? Or is it AD disrupting the chemistry after a 5 game absence? ( AD: 4 rebounds in 23 minutes, I believe, ). This certainly has to do with everyone, from the coaches to the 15th man on the roaster. It was a colossal let down by the whole team.
      Get out of Boston and move on as quickly as you can and onto the next stop. Move on please, Lakers.
      If you would use this loss as an indicator to make a change to this team, it would be a huge mistake. This is an 82 game marathon. For those who have eyes to see clearly, see yonder. For those who are thirsty, drink clear water and that’s the age of Aquarius.
      The Lakers came to this game as if they had overslept after a night out to a local strip club in Boston recommended by local Bostonians. Am I being hard on them? No.
      One thing is for sure, the Lakers didn’t show up. The Celtics, as abysmal as they were in their last 10 games, decided to show up as if they will win game 7 of an NBA Finals. Which they will never get close to.

      For all I know about the Lakers gigantic size, what happened to the size advantage the Lakers have over the Celtics? Is this a case of David vs Goliath?

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 11:09 AM on January 21, 2020 Permalink |  

    Lakers need multiple bigger wings to combat Clippers and Celtics! 

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 11:12 AM on January 21, 2020 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Who are our reliable 2-way players?
      AD and…..????….KCP?

      • LakerTom (Publisher) 11:16 AM on January 21, 2020 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        AD can defend a wing fine but remember what happened when KCP was defending Kawhi? Alex Regla is right that games like last night are important because they expose matchup weaknesses. We didn’t come ready to play but we don’t have the defenders to matchup well against bigger elite wing scorers. That’s always been a weakness from day one. Problem is we have a similar major weakness on the other side of the ball in that we need a scorer/playmaker for when LeBron sits.

      • MongoSlade

        MongoSlade 11:21 AM on January 21, 2020 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        We need guys who can both defend & score and have some dog in em.
        Easier said than done.

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 11:12 AM on January 21, 2020 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Watching small guards like Bradley and Caruso trying to defend bigger wings like Tatum and Hayward reminded me of watching KCP trying to defend Kawhi. This is why the Lakers need to sign Iggy and considder trading for Covington. This is a matchup that just does not favor them.

      • MongoSlade

        MongoSlade 11:22 AM on January 21, 2020 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I bet Pat Bev would take the challenge.
        We need some dogs….

        • LakerTom (Publisher) 12:34 PM on January 21, 2020 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          I don’t think the issue is the Lakers’ defenders not having an ‘dog’ in them nor do I think Pat Beverley would have much better luck trying to defend Tatum and Hayward. The main issue is the size differential. Bradley and KCP both have a lot of ‘dog’ in them and can harass and bother bigger wings on the perimeter. But once they get into the key or paint, they just get bullied and shot over.

          This is not new news. The Lakers just don’t have any good wing defenders. It’s always been our Achilles heel on defense. AD is actually the one player we have who can defend players like Tatum, Hayward, KD, or Kawhi. That’s why landing Iggy would be so important for the Lakers. Otherwise, it’s going to be a problem matching up in the playoffs.

        • MongoSlade

          MongoSlade 1:32 PM on January 21, 2020 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          KCP & AB have some Cocker Spaniel in em.
          We need some Pit Bulls.

          Again..I’m gonna pick on Frankie. He decided to go to the zone last night and got us killed on the boards. It worked against the Rockets because Dantoni sucks just as bad at making adjustments but the better coaches know how to counter that gimmick. The way the Clipps defend AD without having a big who can do it 1 on 1 is by throwing multiple players and multiple looks at him within their team defense scheme. I don’t know if Frankie knows how to switch into that gear.

          Yeah..our defense looks great against non-contenders but our flaws show against the top 10 teams. We might be able to obtain a guy who can defend but can he hold up his end on offense? We might be able get a guy who can get his own shot or be a playmaker but can he hold up his end on defense? And can Frankie figure out a way to integrate this mythical 2-way superstar with Lebron & AD with more than half the season gone? I’m starting to have my doubts based on what I’ve seen.

          This is why I never say to just flush a loss & move on. You learn alot in failures. These things ain’t going away after we blow out the Knicks & Nets.

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 11:00 AM on January 21, 2020 Permalink |  

    The Lakers really need another guy that can create their own shot 

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 11:04 AM on January 21, 2020 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      The Lakers not only need a guy who can create his own shot but just as importantly create shots for teammates. That was clearly evident against good defensive teams like the Clippers and Celtics when LeBron was out of the game. The stats that show the team does not dominate with AD in the lineup and LeBron out clearly show the need for a player who can both score and playmake. While I still like the idea of Collison because he wouldn’t require a trade, I’m starting to think that the better answer might be Derrick Rose. You cannot discount the impact that being a scoring threat has on a player’s ability to create plays for teammates. We may need a second scorer/playmaker when LeBron is out, not just a playmaker.

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 11:09 AM on January 21, 2020 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      We keep running the Lebron offense even with Lebron on the bench.
      Need to do something different to match the players on the floor…even if we get Rose or Collison. Nobody is gonna replicate what Lebron can do…mentally or physically. That’s an adjustment Frankie needs to be able to make.

      Yeah…I’m pointing fingers at Frankie today…lmao

      • LakerTom (Publisher) 12:39 PM on January 21, 2020 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        That’s a valid criticism, Mongo. Taking LeBron out of the offense causes multiple ripples because you just cannot replace what he does. Nor can you replace the level of confidence and swag you lose when he’s not on the floor. Sure you can run plays, set screens, cut backdoor, and all of the things coaches like to do but most of them require a quality playmaker or playmakers, which is our Achilles heel offensively. While I do agree we can play better and that’s on Frank, I also think we aren’t going to be good enough with Bron off the floor with the current personnel.

      • MongoSlade

        MongoSlade 1:13 PM on January 21, 2020 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        If you can’t figure out a way to get something done in the 10-12 minutes of Lebron rest time with friggin Anthony Davis on the floor then that’s 100% on the coaching staff. Especially with the way KCP & Dwight have been playing off the bench.

    • Buba

      Buba 5:14 PM on January 21, 2020 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Wow, that’s some great arguments here, folks. If I am the moderator here on the lakerholics blog between Laker Tom and Mongoslade as in ESPN’s first take between Stephen A Smith and Skip Bailey, I would probably call a timeout and go into commercials, and say “we will be right back”.
      You both made valid points. No question about that. Jesus.

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 10:59 AM on January 21, 2020 Permalink |  

    Not good decisions by Kyle Kuzma! 

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 10:46 AM on January 21, 2020 Permalink |  

    The issue with Kuzma and Lakers is not his talent, it’s his role! 

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 10:52 AM on January 21, 2020 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I think Reed is exactly correct in his assessment of Kuzma and his fit with this Lakers team. The problem is he essentially plays the same positions as LeBron James and Anthony Davis, which makes it hard for him play a major role as a starter or closer. I think it’s inevitable that Kuzma gets traded. If it doesn’t happen before the trade deadline, it will surely happen this summer. In many ways, that would not only be best for the Lakers but also best for Kyle Kuzma. He’s capable of being a starter and closer in this league but unfortunately it’s not going to be for the Lakers.

      • DJ2KB24

        DJ2KB24 10:54 AM on January 21, 2020 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Good points.

        • therealhtj

          therealhtj 11:09 AM on January 21, 2020 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          This team wins nothing if both AD and Bron are (generously) mediocre. You can try an pin this on Kuz all you want, but when those two both suck, Lakers are sunk.

          • MongoSlade

            MongoSlade 11:16 AM on January 21, 2020 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Saw an interesting stat…Lakers are 0-5 vs Clipps, Bucks, Raps, & Celts.
            Lebron 18pts on 38.2% shooting
            AD 20.2pts on 44.4% shooting
            Good teams are gonna force “the others” to beat em.

            • therealhtj

              therealhtj 11:31 AM on January 21, 2020 Permalink

              The best defenses shouldn’t be able to lock both of them down consistently. One or the other should at least be hitting their averages. If all they can do is feast on weaker teams, it’ll be a disappointing postseason. Expecting any of these other dudes to be something they never were, pretty sure they have a name for that.

            • MongoSlade

              MongoSlade 1:35 PM on January 21, 2020 Permalink

              But…they have locked them down.
              Or slowed them down at the very least.

            • NBA4ever

              NBA4ever 2:13 PM on January 21, 2020 Permalink

              Kuzma is NOT the problem in these marquee matchups. He may be the most disappointing but AD isn’t that far behind him. If we are honest, before watching his every game I’d say he’s a top 5 player, after 40 games with the Lakers I’d say he’s a top 10 player. He just doesn’t seem to be a dominant player that can take control of the game on the offensive end without a really good playmaker setting him up. He settles way to much for the elbow shot, and seems discombobulated as he tries to drive to the rim starting out in the post.

              When we went with Kuz at the 4 with Avery and Caruso that’s when we looked the worst. When we went big with Dwight, AD, and Lebron is when we looked the best. Why play to their advantage? Dwight was the only guy on the team that had a positive +/-. Their size was dominating them, we went small and it all fell apart.

            • LakerTom (Publisher) 3:24 PM on January 21, 2020 Permalink

              Sean, I do agree Kuzma was not the problem with these marquee matchups. Unfortunately, he was also not the solution. There’s also no doubt that LeBron and AD have underperformed against the Clippers and Celtics and I think that’s where it’s become obvious we need more than just those two when we’re playing the Clippers or Celtics.

              The big questions is can we get what we need from what he have now via the coaching making adjustments and players stepping up. Or do we need help in the form of free agent and buyout additions and/or trades. I think the existing roster could win the championship but may not be the favorites, especially if other teams improve and we stand pat.

              Not really a terrible situation to be in considering the last five years but it would be a shame to let this opportunity slip by. I think we need to make some moves and to be lucky when it comes to Collison and Iggy.

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 11:01 AM on January 21, 2020 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Reed is definitely on the right path in putting blame on Frankie and his staff as well. Gotta find a way to make the Kuzma thing work..especially if you can’t find a trade…that’s what you get paid to do. It was interesting last night that he tried to go with a “death lineup” (AD, Lebron, Green, Caruso, Bradley) in the 3rd to get back in the game but that’s when the Celts blew it wide open…

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 10:45 AM on January 21, 2020 Permalink |  

    Frank Vogel on the second half adjustment 

  • p ang

    p ang 7:44 PM on January 20, 2020 Permalink |  

    Oh well.

    The Sun will come out tomorrow.

    Rondo has more game winning shots that Paul George.

    Happy thoughts.

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 8:22 AM on January 21, 2020 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      No sun today, Peter. It’s cloudy and heavy rain is on the way. :-(

      On the other hand, we were due for a real stinker of a game and we got it. This was the first game this year that I thought we just did not compete. Best to flush it and move on. A lesson that trap games can be trap games. Just a b***h to have one against the freakin’ Celtics.

  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 5:52 PM on January 20, 2020 Permalink |  

    Not looking so good right now, but we a half to go. So far it’s Tatum, not Kuz. AD a bit rusty. Celts look like they wanna make a statement. Get back on here MM! : )

    • therealhtj

      therealhtj 6:11 PM on January 20, 2020 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Looking trash tonight.

    • DJ2KB24

      DJ2KB24 7:14 PM on January 20, 2020 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      As Kobe said on these rare losses, “flush it!”

    • p ang

      p ang 7:35 PM on January 20, 2020 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      You all know why the Lakers lost, don’t you?

      Its because Lakers didn’t trade Kuz and friends for somebody.

    • Magicman (Editor)

      Magicman (Editor) 11:38 AM on January 21, 2020 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Not for all the Whiskey in Ireland, DJ.

      I’m around just won’t be on here. Keep an Eagle eye for me!

      Be well!

      • DJ2KB24

        DJ2KB24 11:56 AM on January 21, 2020 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Thanks my brother from a dif mother!! All Respect and Love my dear neighbor in the Great White North!!

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