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  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 2:54 PM on January 24, 2017 Permalink |  

    Ugh. Who might start at PG tomorrow night? Well, we got Caldy, Huertas, Ingy, Clarky, Lou Will, Nikki, Randle. Hey let’s get weird and go with Mozzy!! Who cares if he ain’t a young one. That’s our future (if we have one), not the Deng’s and Mozzy’s or Caldy, huertas, Metta (coach Metta okay though). I would like that we were muchbetter so that Lou could stay and even Nikky is (was) playing so well.

  • keen observer

    keen observer 2:23 PM on January 24, 2017 Permalink |  

    Dear Amit:

    I wrote a nice reply down below to the “discussion” we were having.


  • LakerTom (Publisher) 1:59 PM on January 24, 2017 Permalink |  

    What Brandon Ingram’s advanced stats tell us about his future. 

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 1:57 PM on January 24, 2017 Permalink |  

    Luke Walton’s take on tanking 

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 1:56 PM on January 24, 2017 Permalink |  

    Who will start at point guard tomorrw? 

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 1:55 PM on January 24, 2017 Permalink |  

    Luke Walton responded to Kobe Bryant’s interest in helping any way he can 

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 1:53 PM on January 24, 2017 Permalink |  

    The Lakers look to bounce back on the road with consecutive trips to Portland and Utah 

  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 11:38 AM on January 24, 2017 Permalink |  

    Anyone out there?

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 11:42 AM on January 24, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Today must be Personal Attack Day.
      No basketball talk…

      • mclyne32 (Director) 2:48 PM on January 24, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        It’s everyday when you look at how some decide to respond.

    • mud

      mud 12:22 PM on January 24, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      did you see me nodding “yes”?

      • keen observer

        keen observer 2:25 PM on January 24, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        No one except Mongo responded to my Lou thoughts regarding his usefulness to the Lakers moving forward. I provided some follow up data that went ignored. That was a civil basketball discussion.

  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 5:27 PM on January 23, 2017 Permalink |  

    Image Post 

    Pic o the day! Who dat with DJ??

    • AK27

      AK27 5:43 PM on January 23, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      John Kay

      • DJ2KB24

        DJ2KB24 5:50 PM on January 23, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        WOW! AK! U R GR8!

        • AK27

          AK27 5:52 PM on January 23, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Lol..I wish, Deej….didn’t have a clue who the fella was…you just forgot to change the name of the image :)

          • DJ2KB24

            DJ2KB24 6:17 PM on January 23, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Lol! Fraud alert! Fraud alert! Lol!

            PS-Are you too young to remember “Born to be wild.”

            • AK27

              AK27 6:45 PM on January 23, 2017 Permalink

              Lol…sorry man :)

              I am 31 but I do know of the song “Born to be Wild” ( cuz it was on the Rolling Stones list of greatest songs )

            • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

              Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 6:46 PM on January 23, 2017 Permalink

              Zang! AK making everyone feel old, thanks a lot pal! ;)

            • AK27

              AK27 6:52 PM on January 23, 2017 Permalink

              Lol..if it helps, I have the soul of a 78 yr old…sans the wisdom…

            • DJ2KB24

              DJ2KB24 6:53 PM on January 23, 2017 Permalink

              Ha, ha. Come on man-You Tube the song with Steppenwolf!

            • NBA4ever

              NBA4ever 2:43 PM on January 24, 2017 Permalink

              Wait Amit, you are 31? Being virtual friends I forgot we age, I was still thinking you were around 25 LOL ………

              It’s been since the LA Times days when you were the grammar police back around 2007 :)

  • mud

    mud 5:16 PM on January 23, 2017 Permalink |  

    suicide watch day 21…

    362 dead. 1021 injured.
    the Buss family goes on trial for manslaughter next month.

    5125 lawsuits against the Lakers for responsibility regarding massive nervous breakdowns have been filed so far…

  • keen observer

    keen observer 3:25 PM on January 23, 2017 Permalink |  

    We Have Lou Williams For Cheap, But No One Ever Mentions That! 

    • DJ2KB24

      DJ2KB24 6:33 PM on January 23, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      I think he’s about our best player.

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 7:18 PM on January 23, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Lou is great but he’s not really part of the future. By the time this roster catches up and maybe becomes a contender, he’ll be on the downslope

      • keen observer

        keen observer 7:54 PM on January 23, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        If the future is 3-5 years away, he can absolutely be a part of it. He never plays a ton of minutes and he has figured out how to score in this league much like Jamal Crawford. He will be productive until he’s 36 or so.

      • MongoSlade

        MongoSlade 8:57 PM on January 23, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Father Time = Undefeated
        He might play til 36 but it won’t be at this level.

        • keen observer

          keen observer 7:01 AM on January 24, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          I don’t disagree, but he has only averaged 23.5 mpg during his career. Jamal Crawford, as an example of a scorer who is still effective, has averaged 30.7 mpg over the course of his career, is 36. They are different, but similar players. Lou’s not exactly a high fly act either. I think it would be a mistake to trade him, especially with his contract at only 7 mil next season and Bird rights thereafter. I believe he’s good at about this level for about 5 more seasons. From what I have read, the Lakers can’t even get a low first round crapshoot for him. He’s a proven NBA player. It would be too risky to trade him unless the FO knew what it was getting IMO. He is value.

  • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

    Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 2:35 PM on January 23, 2017 Permalink |  

    Man I remember when the blog was in an uproar last year when we had the “worst loss ever” game against Utah. The coaches were to be FIRED ON THE SPOT!!! The right players WEREN’T STARTING!!!! Our philosophy WAS ALL WRONG, WRONG, WRONG.

    Well, the coach has changed. The philosophy is new. Only thing left over from that garbage era…are the players…hmmmmmm…

    I’m with Trollman on this one: get what you can while the getting is good. One thing that is always true ion the NBA: if you can get proven talent for youthful talent that hasn’t been realized you do it.

    • keen observer

      keen observer 2:37 PM on January 23, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      You’re not much different than the mcwhyne line of Lakers fans, are you? Just be patient. My God.

      • AK27

        AK27 4:59 PM on January 23, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Unless you can guarantee that some of our players will become stars/superstars, this is just a difference in opinion on the ceiling of our players….quit your dimwitted whining about Lakers fans…

      • mclyne32 (Director) 5:27 PM on January 23, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Why are you pretending that you believe in God?

        • keen observer

          keen observer 7:26 AM on January 24, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Maybe I don’t believe in God. Maybe I capitalize the “G” out of respect to those who do and just use the expression. Do you have a problem with Atheists and Agnostics? Hell, how about Jews, Muslims, Hindus and Buddhists? Or is it just your stupid, mean-spirited conservative nature to hate anyone who isn’t an extreme right wing anti-choice Christian like you?

          • mclyne32 (Director) 8:19 AM on January 24, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            I don’t believe for a second that you have respect for anyone or anything other than your pitiful little self.
            Once again, you show your ignorance.
            I won’t even get into Religion with you because what I know about other’s beliefs would make your pretty little head spin.
            BTW, you should know that Jesus was a Jew and he is the Savior of ALL people, no matter how hateful or ignorant they are.
            Funny how you are the one calling others “mean spirited.” You might want to go back and look at all of your posts directed towards me- never mind, you won’t get it.
            I hope you have a great day and someone in your life loves on you because you sure need it.

            • keen observer

              keen observer 9:51 AM on January 24, 2017 Permalink

              Wow. So informative. Jesus was Jewish? GEE, I DID NOT KNOW THAT! (rolls eyes) Do you really think I am that stupid? The whole idea that you think that government should be so intrusive that it can tell a woman what she can and cannot do with her body tells me all I need to know about what a mean-spirited piece of sh!t you are. Yes, I treat you like the piece of dung you are. I’m not going to stand on the sidelines and kiss the butt of a Debbie Downer piece of garbage. Society needs less of your type. Lakers Nation, in particular, REALLY needs less of your type!

      • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

        Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 6:45 PM on January 23, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Just like I generally don’t engage in the meaningless exercise of comparing players (who is greater, Jordan or Lebron…who cares?) nor do I get too into the nuts and bolts of why people think the thoughts they think. mclyne and I agree on some things, disagree on others. Same as you and I, myself and LakerTom and I dare say that, were we all to lay our exact thoughts out on all things that there wouldn’t be too many people who feel EXACTLY how I do about anything.

        For my part, I have been patient. I can think of no job, sports or otherwise, that endures failure of this magnitude. Maybe Chipotle’. Maybe. Feel free to call it luck, but, like Phil Jackson, I also believe you create your own luck. I have no need to go back over the list that continues to grow of Jim’s shortcomings nor do those undercut the positive things they have been able to do while creating the environment that this team now exists in. Like the air that needed clearing in the coaches office the time may be coming soon when Jeannie applies the same philosophy with the front office. In all honesty, it may take the clearing of the air all the way on up the chain of command because maybe the Buss kids just don’t have what it takes to run an NBA franchise well. Doesn’t demean what they’ve done or been a part of. Just a recognition of the way things are.

        This is not on the fans or their patience. The fans love the team and want to see it succeed. Some have higher standards of success or expectation or what have you, then others. Simple as that, man. Deliver a product worthy of praise and assuredly praise will follow. Again, not from all, there are no universal truths when it comes to fandom. As you say, there were some that groused about the playoff teams, both during Shaq and Gasol and there are many who have and will always doubt that Kobe Bryant is one of the greatest basketball players that has ever played. Doesn’t make them less of a fan, just one that I happen to disagree with.

        Anyhow, if we win 30 games I think Jim and Mitch will be back. That’s almost a 60+% improvement on last year’s record and that is pretty good and within the realm of expectation. While it may not be awesome growth, it would be growth. But to obfuscate the fact this team is regressing to last season’s mean isn’t all that helpful, either. You simply can’t continue to blame injuries or the coach or the CBA or the CP3 trade. When someone can’t get to the 50/50 balls you call on a sub. At some point the buck stops a little higher than the basketball court.

    • NBA4ever

      NBA4ever 3:23 PM on January 23, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Have to agree with keen on this one. It’s a good thing you or trollman are not talent evaluators for the Lakers. I’m sure you would have said the same thing about the miserable Thunder when they were losing all those games with Durant, Westbrook, and Harden……..

      • keen observer

        keen observer 3:29 PM on January 23, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Remember the 23-43 Lockout Warriors with Steph and Klay? They were 23 and 21 years of age, respectively, Steph in his third season and Klay in his rookie season.

        • AK27

          AK27 5:00 PM on January 23, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          So ?

          • keen observer

            keen observer 8:08 PM on January 23, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            That’s a question? It was a fine comment until you wrecked it with the question mark.

            • AK27

              AK27 8:32 PM on January 23, 2017 Permalink

              Yes, why don’t you tell us what that shallow fuking comparison is supposed to convey..

            • keen observer

              keen observer 7:28 AM on January 24, 2017 Permalink

              Are you too dumb to figure it out for yourself?

            • AK27

              AK27 7:39 AM on January 24, 2017 Permalink

              Figure what out ? you dont have a real point to make here..try proving otherwise…and when you can’t, don’t run away like you usually do..

            • keen observer

              keen observer 9:53 AM on January 24, 2017 Permalink

              I made the point. The kids who turned into The Smash Brothers were young, didn’t know how to win yet and had much to improve on with their games, they traded Monta for Bogut, drafted Draymond, traded for Iggy and the rest is history. What was so different about their situation than ours, even in terms of roster depth and assets to trade, other than the fact that they didn’t win diddly since 1975?

            • AK27

              AK27 11:01 AM on January 24, 2017 Permalink

              Yeah, in your head, I’m sure you did make a great point…what is the purpose of recounting what happened with Golden State and it’s young players ? everyone already knows that…you supplied that little bit of info in response to what NBA4ever said about Russell/KD/Harden and what Jamie/Trollman would have made of ’em back when they were losing a lot, right ?

              So, is it your claim that the “similarity” you outlined in our situation and theirs means that the fellas in question would definitely have made the same assessment of the players in both scenarios ? why ? ‘cuz they are “ingrates” and have no patience, esp when their teams are losing…hence proved !! such impeccable reasoning..lets ignore one very significant difference, i.e the players themselves who’re being evaluated and use the aforementioned similitude to declare an identical response in both situations…Keen has got a perfect predictive model of human behavior trained on imprecise “historical” data !!

              Keep in mind that I am not the one claiming knowledge of the outcome here…I’m saying it’d be silly to do so….maybe they woulda reacted in the same way, maybe not…kinda how folks feel some players have ‘IT” and some don’t…based on years of watching the growth of players in the NBA…

            • keen observer

              keen observer 2:22 PM on January 24, 2017 Permalink

              I’m not predicting a d*mn thing, Amit. I’m just sick of the impatience demonstrated by the likes of mclyne, DJ and Jamie (to name a few) and the unrealistic expectations of players who are very young age and/or experience wise. Of course there’s a much better chance than not that we won’t become a dynastic team like these Warriors, but giving up on these guys now because none of them have the subjective “IT” factor is a bit premature IMO.

              An example of a player who looks like he has the “IT” factor to me is Devin Booker, but we don’t watch him all the time, so I’m guessing that we would be more critical of him if we did. When you think back at Harden’s and Westbrook’s first few seasons (and look at their numbers), I don’t remember thinking superstar for either one of them right away and the same goes for Steph Curry.

              Anyway, I think we have a solid, deep young core and my amateur “eye test” tells me that Randle will be a beast at the pf position in 3 seasons or so, that Russell will figure this out in about 2 seasons and be a top notch lead guard (remember, Harden and Westbrook both played 2 years in college) and that Ingram’s potential is through the roof. I also believe that Zubac will be one of the best rim protecting P/R defending centers in the NBA by the time he is 23. Finally, if we do keep the pick this season, I also think there could be trades like the Warriors pulled off with Bogut and Iggy, but that is impossible to predict at this point, especially without knowing whether we keep the pick this season.

              I hope that was an acceptable post for you.

      • AK27

        AK27 4:54 PM on January 23, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        It’s a good thing that nobody here is a talent scout for the Lakers…so, Jamie/Trollman are hardly alone in that regard Lol

        Jamie is less optimistic than us about the future of our young players but that doesn’t mean that he’d have said the same thing about Durant/Westbrook/Harden when the Thunder were losing many games…you are assuming that his evaluation is based only on the fate of the team and that likely isn’t the case…every losing team’s young prospects don’t have to be viewed in the same light..

        Besides, getting “proven talent” in exchange isn’t exactly an outrageous wish…not that I see it happening anytime soon…

        • NBA4ever

          NBA4ever 5:17 PM on January 23, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          I’m not the one complaining, I know I don’t know enough so the only thing I can do is trust the process. This isn’t the 90’s where the rich teams can take burdensome contracts off the small market teams hands in exchange for prospects. Who cares if we could get someone like Cousins for a few of our guys, we’d be in the same position so all we can do is hope, be patient, and trust the process. I bet he would be saying the same thing about the Thunder at that time. We have the same type of young talent in the same position that they were in, none of us will know if we are right or wrong for a couple of years. We have 2 lotto picks in year 1 and 1/2 and another that has played a half season and I’ve seen nothing but progress from all three of them in relation to where they begin.

          • AK27

            AK27 5:28 PM on January 23, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            Lol…he just isn’t as high on our players as others on the blog…call that complaining if you want…sure, we should trust the process…what else can we do ? fandom is largely a passive thing..

            if you can get proven talent for youthful talent that hasn’t been realized you do it.

            Yes, this isn’t the 90’s. But what about the line above tells you that he has high hopes for such an exchange ?

            I bet he would be saying the same thing about the Thunder at that time.
            We have the same type of young talent in the same position.

            What does the “same type of talent” mean ? That nobody could make a different prediction about the players based on observation of the two teams ? That’s silly….our positions might be “similar” in some ways but that alone doesn’t determine how someone might view the ceiling of the players..

            I agree with you on the progress seen in our players..and that we won’t know whether we’re right/wrong for another year or two…but haven’t you ever felt strongly about things you couldn’t have known for sure ?

            • NBA4ever

              NBA4ever 6:02 PM on January 23, 2017 Permalink

              He isn’t high on them based on what? What does he expect from these guys with less then 2 years experience surrounded by more unexperience and vets that just are not good or way past their primes other then Nick and Lou? What is funny about my comment?

              He’s not stating he has high hopes or not but he’s saying get what you can while the getting is good. Who, how, when, where?

              Your whole “objective” arguement is silly, tell us what you think rather than being the objective police for others. I’ve read enough on the subject from Jamie and think I have a good sense as to where he’s coming from. I highly respect Jamie and just offering a different perspective. My origninal statement is simple and straight forward, and I’m thinking the decision makers agree.

              I’m not sure why you are coming after me as if my approach is keenesque…sorry if I still have hope for our young core and patiently rather wait it out especially based on the senerios we have available to us. With the team we have it’s not all that bad to be calling for drastic moves. My only complaint is the length of years for Moz and Dang….other than that I have hope and am optimistic still about our core.

            • AK27

              AK27 6:35 PM on January 23, 2017 Permalink

              Based on his observations, I assume….same as your hopes…what else would he base his assessment on ? the patterns in the night sky ? I woulda thought you have a fair idea about this cuz you ..know where he’s coming from..

              I am not advocating such a trade or saying that it’s probable..I said as much in my first response…the questions of “who/how/when” aren’t for him to answer cuz he isn’t offering an opinion on likelihood either..he isn’t the GM…just a fan sayin that it’d be good if something of that sort were to happen…

              What’s funny about your comment is the idea that he is “complaining” when the only real difference is one of the ceiling you guys see for our players….and that players on our team and the Thunder would be viewed in the same way ‘cuz of “similar type of talent”…what does that mean ? that any differences in their skills go out the window ? it’s totally reasonable for someone to arrive at different assessment for Russell/Ingram/Randle vs Westbrook/Durant/Harden..

              I don’t infer any disrespect when you call out someone but if you have strong opinions, maybe you should try being a little less sensitive yourself…you were just offering a different perspective when you said you’re glad someone isn’t a talent evaluator for the Lakers but I am being the “objective police” and coming after you ? Lol..what “objective argument” are you talking about ?

              sorry if I still have hope for our young core and patiently rather ..

              Why ? It’s a reasonable position….

              Jamie is less optimistic than US about the future of our young players

              This expresses my agreement with your hopes about our roster…or is that not simple or straightforward enough for you ? :D

              PS -- I would never insult you by comparing your approach to Keen’s…

            • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

              Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 7:11 PM on January 23, 2017 Permalink

              And thanks NBA, I totally dig and respect your thoughts and opinions, as well. As I like to say, doesn’t make anyone less of a fan because they think one way and I another.

            • keen observer

              keen observer 7:56 PM on January 23, 2017 Permalink

              Yes it does.

            • NBA4ever

              NBA4ever 8:01 PM on January 23, 2017 Permalink

              No it doesn’t.

              Keen so are you saying if someone didnt support Obama’s policies it made them less of an American? If so the same could be said if you dont support Trump’s???

            • keen observer

              keen observer 8:12 PM on January 23, 2017 Permalink

              We’re discussing being a fan of the LOS ANGELES LAKERS, not politics or policies. The real fans will cheer us on no matter what. In the case of this glorious franchise, they refuse to understand why we are where we are and that a part of that was winning chips when we had the chance to. They’re just spoiled, rotten ingrates with no patience or vision or appreciation. Sorry, but yes it does.

            • AK27

              AK27 8:20 PM on January 23, 2017 Permalink

              Yes it does ?

              WTF are you talking about, Keen ?

              Any group of young players on losing teams are bound to be assessed in the same manner ? Screw any difference in skills and such that might result in a different outcome ? You really are a dunce…

            • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

              Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 9:46 PM on January 23, 2017 Permalink

              Keen you crack me up, man.

            • keen observer

              keen observer 7:29 AM on January 24, 2017 Permalink

              All you negative ingrates have such a tight bond. Sickening.

            • AK27

              AK27 7:42 AM on January 24, 2017 Permalink

              Then leave, you sorry sack of dumb $hit ! Lol

            • keen observer

              keen observer 9:57 AM on January 24, 2017 Permalink

              Nah, it’s too much fun watching you numbskulls suffer.

            • AK27

              AK27 9:58 AM on January 24, 2017 Permalink

              Being sickened..nauseated, annoyed, among other things, every so often is what you describe as “fun” ?? boy, you really are dumb ! :D

        • Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well)

          Jamie Sweet (Local Ne'er-Do-Well) 7:10 PM on January 23, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          I actually think I’m more optimistic than some on Randle on Clarkson. I think Russell’s limited athleticism will make it very difficult for him to ever be considered a super star. He may have an All Star season, maybe two, but so did Nick the Quick Van Exel and he topped out at pretty good PG. A fine player, to be sure, but not a super star. And Nick had an explosive first step and was a better passer and shooter than Russell has shown.

          I think Clarkson is as likely to develop into an elite PG as Russell is he just needs to master a few more angles and some footwork in the post, maybe take that passing game to something closer to 6 or 7 assist/game and he’ll be right there. Dude has hops, speed and he’s getting better on the defensive end. He won’t be confused for Leonard but he won’t be confused for Lou Williams, either.

          Randle just needs to figure out a way to be consistent in his scoring. He’ll settle his game down for a week or so then he’ll get all amped out, out of control barreling into the paint with no true destination in mind. The rest is all there. When he chooses to take what the defense gives him he generally has great games. When he bulls his way into the lane it can be really hit or miss.

          Ingram is certainly intriguing but I want to see him in summer league, dominating like he ought to be able to, and then making it impossible not to start him in camp. His variance in what you’ll get game-to-game is off the charts. But he may be our best trade chip, too.

          End of the day: none of them fall into the ‘keep at all costs’ category. I’d also be fine keeping all of them and letting this ride. We may not have much of a choice.

        • NBA4ever

          NBA4ever 7:54 PM on January 23, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          “it’s totally reasonable for someone to arrive at different assessment for Russell/Ingram/Randle vs Westbrook/Durant/Harden..”

          We can’t go back in time to determine how any of us would have assessed okc…I think it is fair to assume and a logical analogy to compare ….that all things being equal(we couldnt know otherwise) if he has the perspective that we should trade now he would have felt the same about okc. We know now he would have been wrong as okc was, he may be right about this Lakers core. Not many options imo so my take is we be patient and wait out the process. Okc made that trade and they were wrong, not only because Harden became a star but because the addition of a proven floor spacer didnt work out.

          • AK27

            AK27 8:14 PM on January 23, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

            No disagreement on the approach for us, NBA…

            As for the comparison of OKC and our current roster, going back in time isn’t required for our purpose..the difference in our perspective is a bit subtle..I am NOT making a claim, one way or the other, on the predictions that would result from observation of one group vs the other…you said you’re sure they would be the same and I am saying that the difference in players is significant enough for a different assessment to be a distinct possibility…a fella who is not as optimistic about our players might well have felt differently about the OKC group…that’s all..

      • For whom the bell trolls 12:39 AM on January 24, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        No way ever ever. You saw that “it” with Durant, Westy, and Harden. These kids have never shown a glimpse of what that trio did early in their career that made me say “these guys are gonna be something’
        What? Once in a blue moon shooting streak by DLo? Clarkson bad pass, Randle blocked underneath, DLo dribble turnover. Over and over, they don’t have that “it”

    • John M.

      John M. 4:13 PM on January 23, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Yeah, they shoulda dumped those bums when they had the chance. It was obvious none of ’em could shoot.

  • DJ2KB24

    DJ2KB24 1:32 PM on January 23, 2017 Permalink |  

    As I peruse the sched, seems like we have about 8 more wins, give or take. That would place us at 24-58. What ya’ll think?

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 12:45 PM on January 23, 2017 Permalink |  

    The NBA is loaded with young talent…but who makes the cut for the 25 best players under the age of 25? 

    Honorable Mentions

    Jordan Clarkson, Guard, Los Angeles Lakers, Age 24

    Clarkson is a key cog in the Los Angeles Lakers’ stellar bench mob (plus-8.9 points per 100 possessions, per NBA.com). We’ll have to wait and see if he starts alongside D’Angelo Russell, Julius Randle and Brandon Ingram down the line. Either way, Lakers fans will take his 14 points on 45.2 percent shooting (34.6 percent from three).

    24. D’Angelo Russell, Point Guard, Los Angeles Lakers, Age 20

    Injuries have thus far marred D’Angelo Russell’s sophomore campaign. The Louisville, Kentucky, native missed three weeks earlier this season with a sore left knee, and he could be back on the shelf for a bit after spraining the MCL in his right knee and straining his right calf during the Lakers’ 108-96 win over the Pacers on Friday.

    Those setbacks haven’t stopped the former No. 2 pick from strutting his stuff, albeit in fits and starts. He torched the Toronto Raptors for 28 points on New Year’s Day, posted 22 more two games later against the Portland Trail Blazers and added another 20 against the Detroit Pistons.

    All three of those efforts came in defeat for the Lakers, and Russell logged 10 assists to go with eight turnovers across them. He has the vision and the touch to deliver some next-level passes, which can get him in trouble when he tries for the spectacular over the simply effective.

    His shot is still inconsistent (39.5 percent from the field, 34.4 percent from three), and his defense is about what you’d expect from a guard barely beyond his teenage years (39th in defensive real plus-minus among point guards, per ESPN.com).

    Skill-wise, Russell has all the tools to fit the mold of the modern scoring floor general. He’s not particularly fast or athletic, but his understanding of angles and how to create space off the dribble can make up for that.

    What he needs more than anything is time—away from the training table and on the court.

    18. Julius Randle, Power Forward, Los Angeles Lakers, Age 22

    Some day, D’Angelo Russell and Brandon Ingram might be superstars who are capable of carrying the Lakers’ storied torch. For now, Julius Randle is the closest thing the Purple and Gold have to a cornerstone among their young core.

    He leads the Lakers in rebounds per game (8.5) and double-doubles (10), and he ranks second in assists (3.9) and fifth in points per contest (13.3). Those aren’t superstar stats by any means, but they point to what kind of all-around threat Randle can be. With his hulking frame (6’9″, 250 lbs), quick first step and left-hand dominance, he’s already a freight train in transition and is finishing much better around the rim (64.9 percent, per Basketball Reference) than he did in 2015-16.

    Consistency, though, continues to escape the 22-year-old Kentucky product.
    “Sometimes I’m like, ‘Holy Lord, he’s figured it out, and the rest of the league is in trouble,'” coach Luke Walton said of Randle, per the Los Angeles Times’ Mike DiGiovanna. “And there are other times when it’s like, ‘Wow, what was he looking at right there?'”

    It’s moments like those when Lakers Nation must remind itself that Randle is in just his second actual season of pro ball, after breaking his leg during the first game of his rookie campaign. The sooner Randle brings his game into proper balance, the better able the Lakers will be to climb out of Kobe Bryant’s end-of-career crater.

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 12:46 PM on January 23, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Bandon Ingram and Larry Nance, Jr. did not even make the Honorable Mentions

    • keen observer

      keen observer 2:34 PM on January 23, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      You are talking about two different levels. Some of these guys have been in the league 4 or 5 years. I say eliminate the 4-5 year players and the 23+ players from this list and create two separate lists.

      • LakerTom (Publisher) 3:05 PM on January 23, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        Yes, not valid comparison to guys with just 1 or 2 years of experience.

      • NBA4ever

        NBA4ever 3:25 PM on January 23, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I’ll take our young core over every team in the NBA that isn’t in contention or close to it besides the Utah Jazz.

        • keen observer

          keen observer 3:33 PM on January 23, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

          Larry Nance Jr. is already a solid player and Zubac has a tremendous ceiling. Lots of young bigs in the league now. The pendulum will swing back in about 3-4 seasons.

  • LakerTom (Publisher) 12:16 PM on January 23, 2017 Permalink |  

    How LA Lakers Should Address Each Area of Need at the NBA Trade Deadline 

    Protect the 1st-Round Pick

    The more the Lakers win, the less likely they are to keep their 2017 first-rounder.

    That doesn’t mean the team should try to lose—that sends the wrong message to the franchise’s developing players. That said, the front office might look to part with veterans like Lou Williams, whose individual scoring ability has kept the Lakers in a fair share of games this season.

    Sweet Lou earns $7 million a season with one more year left on his contract. He could help a contending team in the playoffs as a bench scorer while helping the Lakers address their youth in return—be it in another prospect or draft considerations. Nick Young might fit that criteria as well, earning $5.4 million this season with a player option on his $5.7 million salary for 2017-18.

    The Lakers would improve their odds at a top-three pick, give more time to their developing players and add on additional young talent by moving either or both.

    How good would UCLA’s Lonzo Ball look in the Lakers’ purple and gold?

    • LakerTom (Publisher) 12:18 PM on January 23, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Trading Nick and Lou would certainly help the tank and give the kids more minutes.
      Hard to argue that tanking would be the smart move for the Lakers once again.
      Jim and Mitch would be smart to go this route but we know they won’t.
      And that may be the reason why they should be replaced this summer.
      They need to understand the modern NBA is not their father’s NBA.

    • MongoSlade

      MongoSlade 12:34 PM on January 23, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

      Get what u can for N.Young
      He’s done a good job putting up a front in a contract year but the cracks are starting to show. This ain’t the guy u want long-term when trying to develop a winning culture. Let somebody else make that mistake.

      • DJ2KB24

        DJ2KB24 1:06 PM on January 23, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply

        I give credit to Nikky though, he’s playing as well as he can. I like Lou, but he might have big time value to a contender. Somehow get out of Moz and Deng!

      • mclyne32 (Director) 5:28 PM on January 23, 2017 Permalink | Log in to Reply


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